NFL Football Thread 2013

[Rob14]

The season is about to start. Discuss stuff.

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Links to past threads:

2012
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=22966

2011
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=18768

2010
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =6&t=15067

2009
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... =6&t=10724

2008
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?t=9637

Links to relevant Mish Mash games:

mish mash eliminator thread
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=31143

mafia scum fantasy football league
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29848

Thanks to PokerFace for compiling all the links.

[StupendousMan]

Eagles fan here. I expect to be buried with rage and disappointment again this year. At least they managed to beat the Panthers.

[Rob14]

I'm not a huge fan of any one team. I like watching the Packers because they're such a solid all-around team. It's nice watching them executing offensive plays knowing that really any of their receivers could do something amazing.

Fantasy Football enhances the game so much for me, because it has me actively rooting for a particular player rather than a team as a whole to do well. I find that more fun, since I can focus in on one person's play.

[StupendousMan]

Yeah, I get what you mean. I'm like that with most other sports except football and baseball. Some of the individuals I enjoy watching are Adrian Peterson, Drew Brees, and Clay Matthews. I also occasionally root for the Saints if the Eagles don't make the playoffs.

What are your thoughts on Andrew Luck?

[notscience]

I think Luck is probably the most overhyped Rookie, although he might be better in the future, he currently isn't.

[Rob14]

I have Andrew Luck as my back-up QB in a fantasy league, which is all pretty lol. My team is so unbelievably stacked in that league. I consider him to be a top 10 QB, but definitely on the lower side of that. He isn't on the tier of Tom Brady or Drew Brees. As far as newcomers go rather than the long-time veterans, RG3 is still better than Luck, although there are injury issues there now.

[Thestatusquo]

I think Luck is probably the most overhyped Rookie, although he might be better in the future, he currently isn't.

I think Andrew Luck performed surprisingly well considering the fact that his team contains virtually no one of note to throw the ball to and his offensive line is essentially Anthony Castonzo and 4 traffic cones.

[pickemgenius]

I think Luck is probably the most overhyped Rookie, although he might be better in the future, he currently isn't.

I think Andrew Luck performed surprisingly well considering the fact that his team contains virtually no one of note to throw the ball to and his offensive line is essentially Anthony Castonzo and 4 traffic cones.

yup.

[KageLord]

Packers as a solid all-around team? Their offensive line and defense were pretty awful last year. Even though I love Brady, I've gotta give it up to Rodgers for playing so well with a lower end O-line.

As for Luck, he is pretty darn good now with a lot more potential looking a few years forward. For now I would definitely put a healthy RG3 above him.

[Thestatusquo]

Best QB in the league is still Eli Manning. obvobvobv.

[Amrun]

Dear Patriots fans:

Lol

[Rob14]

Amrun, there are three reasons no fans really care about this loss.

1. It's the pre-season.
2. It's the pre-season.
3. It's the pre-season.

[PJ.]

I think Baltimore fans should be more worried then Pats fans, honestly.

[Rob14]

I feel bad for Tebow.

[notscience]

I think Baltimore fans should be more worried then Pats fans, honestly.

QFT

We gave our best wide receiver to the team we played in the superbowl last year

[Nero Cain]

Yeah, I don't think the loss of Boldin was gonna hurt much.

[Thestatusquo]

"best"?

I didn't know that Torrey Smith left.

[notscience]

I find Boldin better simply because he's reliable to catch the ball. Torrey Smith has big plays, but Boldin was there when needed.

[KageLord]

I feel bad for Tebow.

What happened?

And I don't have a high opinion of Boldin in general, but they probably wouldn't have beaten the Pats last year if they didn't have his size out there with Talib out. Just like they'd never beat the Pats without Pollard injuring a key player every game.

[Rob14]

He's probably out of a job. The Jets last year used him as their laughing stock player, essentially, and now the Patriots don't even think highly enough of him to put him into a pre-season blow-out to see if he can do anything.

[Thestatusquo]

I find Boldin better simply because he's reliable to catch the ball. Torrey Smith has big plays, but Boldin was there when needed.

I just can't even begin to agree with that. I don't think there's a team in the league that, when asked the question "Would you rather have smith or boldin," would answer boldin. I also don't think theres a defensive coordinator in the league who would say they're rather game plan against Smith. Bolden is a dime a dozen kind of receiver. He's old, not fast. Purely a possession guy. Not really a threat in the redzone.

I think you're being silly.

[Rob14]

Torrey Smith can make some great plays, but notscience is right that reliability is definitely not his strong-suit. Opposing teams would rather game plan against Boldin, of course, because Smith's potential for huge plays is a big deal to defend against.

[Thestatusquo]

I don't understand. Boldin didn't even have a good year last year...

[Rob14]

I'm not saying Boldin is better - I'm saying that Smith isn't reliable enough to be set miles ahead of Boldin like you seem to think. Smith is still the better WR.

If Torrey Smith could consistently perform as he does in his best games, he would be a fantastic WR. You can say that about most players, though, and you kind of have to judge him on his average performance. His average is nothing special, really.

[Thestatusquo]

His average is 17 YPC.