I don't really see him getting a lot of votes in the general election, but in a close election even just a few votes can really screw things up (Ralph Nader).
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
I feel like he draws more Republican votes anyways... his debate style (loud and obnoxious) and stances are much closer to a republican candidate's anyways.
I don't know. It seems like most republicans think *jeb* is too moderate. I can't see them voting for a centerist democrat.
Mostly I think he pulls votes from so-called "Reagan Democrats" if there are any left. People who lean democrat but think Hillary is too far to the left.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
He's saying you'd pull some republican votes off in the general election. In the general, it's not about winning the support of your base, it's about winning marginal voters (also turnout). Marginal voters who lean republican might support someone like Webb, though I seriously doubt it.
One large issue facing Webb is that he thinks he's above campaigning or something.
I doubt he'll pull Democrats because I think even moderate Democrats and liberal Independents understand that a Trump presidency is against the interests of the nation and should be avoided at all costs. And it's looking like Trump might actually take the nomination, which is insane unto itself. I suppose it's the natural extension of "political correctness" as a dirty word and worshiping business owners, both hallmarks of the Republican Party.
In post 203, zoraster wrote:He's saying you'd pull some republican votes off in the general election. In the general, it's not about winning the support of your base, it's about winning marginal voters (also turnout). Marginal voters who lean republican might support someone like Webb, though I seriously doubt it.
One large issue facing Webb is that he thinks he's above campaigning or something.
I am talking about the general; I'm saying if he pulls any votes in the general, it'll probably mostly be moderate democrats. I can't see many Republican voters going for someone who switched parties and became a Democrat, even if he's now running as an independent.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
In post 206, Aj The Epic wrote:I could see the RNC taking a collective policy hit and just not allowing him on ANY state's ballot.
They probably won't be that direct, but there is a chance they'll actually change the nomination rules midstream if necessary in order to keep him out. Nate Silver mentioned that possibility in an article he wrote a few months ago, let me find it...
The Republican Party’s delegate selection rules are straightforward in some states but byzantine in others, especially in caucus states where delegates are sometimes not formally pledged to the candidate who apparently earned their support on election night. Furthermore, about 7 percent of delegates to the RNC are party leaders — what Democrats would call “superdelegates” — who are usually not bound by the results of the popular vote in their states at all.
This introduces a little bit of slack into the system. It works in favor of establishment-backed candidates, or those who have an intricate understanding of the delegate rules. And it works against candidates like Trump.
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But the party also has some “hard power”: It literally makes the rules. It can rule against candidates it doesn’t like in the event of delegate-counting disputes. It can probably even change the rules midstream. There isn’t a lot of precedent to worry about violating, since it’s been 40 years since Republicans came close to a brokered convention.
I want us to win just for Yos' inevitable rant alone. -CrashTextDummie
