In post 10179, karnos wrote: In post 10176, Psyche wrote: In post 10174, karnos wrote:
If you think that race is irrelevant and people of all races are capable of obtaining proper ID, the argument falls apart.
So everyone has a valid ID, how exactly is the voter ID law hurting minorities (or anyone else)?
The argument only works if you are assuming some group (minorities, duh) are incapable of obtaining IDs.
It works if you have rudimentary critical thinking skills.
1. Black people are more likely to be impoverished than white people
2. Black people are more likely to live in densely-populated urban areas (due to a myriad of historical and racist factors)
3. Impoverished people are less likely to own an automobile than non-impoverished people, due to a combination of inability to purchase (due to impoverishment and/or racist/predatory loaning practices) and lack of need due to living in dense urban areas
4. Impoverished people are less likely to have completed their education
5. Impoverished people are more likely to have received a sub-standard education
6. Impoverished people are more likely to work a low-paying hourly job(s)
7. Black people are less likely to have or need a Driver's License, which is the most common form of photo identification (coincidentally, proposals to institute a mandatory national ID card program are frequently criticized by those with anti-government views as "Orwellian"). This is because they do not need cars because they live in urban areas and can walk or bike to work, and/or because they cannot afford a vehicle because of their low income. Additionally, applying for, testing for, and receiving a Driver's requires two things - a rudimentary education, and a considerable time investment. Black people are less likely to have either of these things - the former due to poorly-funded inner city school systems (Starve the Beast!) and self-defeating education legislation (No Child Left Behind); the latter due to being forced to work considerable hours at a low-paying job or jobs in order to make ends meet.
1. Black people are less likely to have a Driver's License, the most common form of photo identification
2. "Voter ID" laws require possession of a form of photo identification
3. Black people are more likely to be targeted and affected by "Voter ID" laws
1. Black people are more likely to be affected by "Voter ID" laws
2. "Voter ID" laws are more likely to be instituted in traditionally conservative states in the American South
3. "Voter ID" laws are more likely to be instituted by state-level Republican lawmakers
4. Black people are more likely to be targeted by Republican lawmakers in traditionally conservative states in the American South by "Voter ID" laws
It is literally just a new form of Jim Crow. Jim Crow involved provisions written into state constitutions
intended to exclude black people from elections under the guise of "qualifying the electorate." Such measures included a literacy test and a poll tax. Because these measures blanket-targeted impoverished Americans in these southern states, poor whites were excluded from these restrictions by means of the "grandfather clause" - if your grandfather was qualified and eligible to vote, then you are by extension qualified and eligible to vote. Coincidentally, these grandfathers lived during the antebellum South, and were almost exclusively white, since the black Southerners were, well, slaves.
Voter suppression along racial lines isn't going to involve a law that literally says "Black people can't vote lol." They have to make up an excuse to indirectly exclude them from the conversation, so that gullible "useful idiots" or actively malicious operatives can point and say "We're not suppressing black people. We're just qualifying the electorate!" and wash their hands of the whole thing. Use your brain.