Les Miserables Should Be Called The Miserable

[Zulfy]

Or the unfortunate, or the wretched, whatever.

Because when people say "Lay Miss Erraaaahhhbuhl" it sort of pisses me off internally.

But you can't just go out and say full throttle "

Les Miserables

" cuz then you're a pretentious poop.

You know how we say it? "Los Miserables" no troubles there. All of you anglospeakers need to get over your fetish over the french language. The normans are gone, Paris is a dirty place, get over it.

[InflatablePie]

is it okay if I call it "lay miz"

also I think the translation is The Miserable Ones

[Zulfy]

Yea that's fine. My concern is only with the whole title, where you are forced to pick between one-sided interlingual salaciousness and complacent ineptitude.

[hiplop]

Lay miz

[Rob14]

Except it's a play about France. Of course the title is French...

This is the worst thread on this site since F62.

[Kublai Khan]

What if I actually speak french and can pronounce it correctly?

[Davsto]

All of you anglospeakers need to get over your fetish over the french language.

It is an originally-French musical with music and original lyrics all composed by Frenchmen, based on a French novel written by a French author.

Of course the title's gonna be in French.

[Davsto]

Like, I'd understand your complaint if it were an English play based on an English novel written by the English but just set in France.

It's not.

[Malakittens]

All of you anglospeakers need to get over your fetish over the french language.

It is an originally-French musical with music and original lyrics all composed by Frenchmen, based on a French novel written by a French author.

Of course the title's gonna be in French.

[Zulfy]

If it was from Sweden, i guarantee you the title wouldnt be in swedish.

[Davsto]

But the moment the original title is originally in a foreign language, as far as I care it is totally justified to keep the title in a foreign language when localising it. I'd see where your complaint is coming from, but it's not like some ponce decided to write a musical set in France and call it a French name because it sounded cool.

Also, I basically haven't met anyone who doesn't call it "Ley Miz" most of the time anyway, and I've literally been in a performance of it.

[Plotinus]

Why call it "War and Peace" instead of Война и мир, then?

[Davsto]

Why call it "War and Peace" instead of Война и мир, then?

I never said "translate it from a foreign language and you have to keep the old title". I said "translate it from a foreign language and you're perfectly justified in keeping the old title".

[Zulfy]

Its just one of those things I guess

[Kublai Khan]

All of you anglospeakers need to get over your fetish over the french language.

It is an originally-French musical with music and original lyrics all composed by Frenchmen, based on a French novel written by a French author.

Of course the title's gonna be in French.

[Kublai Khan]

I've actually always thought it was weird that

Les Miserables

kept it's French title. Like people notice how French I am when I say it properly (same with croissant). I always figured it was just a successful marketing ploy, though.

[Zulfy]

My main beef with the thing is that french is an average language, like any other, a bit too guttural even. It's only because of cultural hegemony and colonialism that it's considered something to be admired.

[Kublai Khan]

Well, that's a typical "Fuck the French" American attitude dressed up in fancy words.

[SleepyKrew]

French actually is an awful language though

[Zulfy]

Well, that's a typical "Fuck the French" American attitude dressed up in fancy words.

Im central american tho

[Kublai Khan]

Well, that's a typical "Fuck the French" Central American attitude dressed up in fancy words.

[Zulfy]

Only you Frenchies can interpret "average" as disdain.

[Kublai Khan]

I'm french Canadian.

[Zulfy]

Only you French Canadians can interpret "average" as disdain.

[Rob14]

Poutine is good. You Canadians know what's up.