Secret Hitler (Game Over)

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Hype

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I only played secret Hitler once before and I fucking nailed one of the nazis super early
on

Then proceeded to promptly lose us the game by totally failing to read the indecisión in his partner as faked lack of certainty between the two groups rather than calculated

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Sup sup sup dats

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Is it you + VV again

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VOTE: datisi

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That’s right bus your buddy

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Yeah I rolled Hitler, pls confirm using the super secret signal that u two are the fascists so we can lead this game to great victory

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What is rrr?

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Lowkey I don’t think dats is a fascist

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I’m gonna cry if it literally is the two of you again

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Mena no this isn't the scum PT

Wait, it’s not

mod, can u pls transfer my posts so far to the scum pt before anyone sees? Ty

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Why r and b not f and l?

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I'm not a fascist

And I believe this

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Obviously not

Who was chancellor when the first fascist policy went through btw?

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HMMM IS THERE REALLY 3 BLUES AND TWO REDS ?

Only one way to find out!

nom: datisi

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Everyone vote ja I’m not actually Hitler lol

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*waves*

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Listen, I did it for the memes

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I’m really hype for winning with you twice in a row datisi

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Also nomination comes after dweller uses his power
And by god if you go against the meta again

Oh, wait, does it?

Also I’m literally insta nomming you once dweller makes a choice then

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mod, can I pencil in an automatic action to take place as soon as next session starts?

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man is datisi hitler and u fascist mena?

No I’m Hitler and datisi I’d a fascist have you not been reading oka

Also hi, I think this is our first time playing anything together

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But it doesn't make sense to check egix. Because I had some other people in mind I was suspicious of.

Not me I hope, tee hee

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the reason why we know youre fasc from it, if you're wondering:
if youre lib, and you check egix and see fascist, you will claim fascist. therefore, you claiming lib means its impossible for egix to be fasc, and for you to be lib. you can still be fasc, and egix could still be lib, but it's impossible the other way around. the only other option is that you're both fasc here.
anyways, so, egix is pres, he picks you to be chans. he claims to pass you rb, but r is played. what does that tell us? you're fascist. you can't be lib, because you'd have claimed egix!fasc. is it possible that both of you are fasc? yes, but we confirm that you are a fascist, meaning you will get the bullet when it comes to that.
obviously, fasc dont want to do something like that, therefore they're forced to play the blue.

Is the problem here not that in the case of fash-fash one gets falsely conf!libbed ?

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autonom: datisi for session 7

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also, @mena, wdym by 256?

If egix and dweller are both fash then your plan doesn’t work right?

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Aren't FF/me the next government though?

No I autonommed you remember

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Why are we neining mena/dats

Are you actually a fascist dats

If not what not be nommed with me

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Kinda disappointed no one reacted to the autonom play tbh

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Because we need as few hands touching the deck in the first run-through as possible

Also dweller claim

Also what

Wait whadda ya mean first run through

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Yeah I submitted the autonom publicly as a reaction test and immediately retracted it privately

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Then you all totally failed to react but okay w/e I’m over it jeez

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I mean I do hear that

But also my role pm says liberal and I /would/ like to be president, sooooo

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Can someone explain to me the importance of table order

Like what does it actually imply, I know it’s to do with the next president

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So who should I nom or it doesn’t matter ?

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before the deck gets shuffled we need to minimize the number of different people who've touched the deck so its easier to PoE the discrepancies in card claiming

7 is a liberal tho

also what are your thoughts on the gamestate atm

Correct

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Yes, let’s do that

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nom: Menalque

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Dw erryone just vote jah and I’ll pass a liberal

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tbh, from a newbie perspective, it kinda makes sense. i wouldnt say hes fasc from that alone.

Dweller was also the first to want to deviate from our plan.

He was the one who nommed out of order iirc.

doesn't president always have to nom?

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me: maybe I should read the game
me-to-me: just find out what happened by asking everyone questions when stuff comes up

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Would have last time but we got rrr and our hands were forced.

Let's rout out these evil facists.

Pedit- he tried to go off of our plan first by nomming someone we didn't agree upon.

why is that fash rather than newb!lib?

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Yes I also agree what is stated above. I will nein the next two governments if everyone wants this. Just waiting for Oka to nominate someone as chancellor.

Why are we skipping 7? we've got no clue about him

hmmmmmmmmmmm
why was it fine skipping 3x and 4x
but not 7x

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

fuck now i'm getting paranoid
@mena can you libspew yourself a bit more k thx

this actually makes me legit worried about datisi being fash

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Would have last time but

we got rrr

and our hands were forced.

do you trust me that much or is this a ScUmSlIp

as does this kinda

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Yes I also agree what is stated above. I will nein the next two governments if everyone wants this. Just waiting for Oka to nominate someone as chancellor.

Why are we skipping 7? we've got no clue about him

hmmmmmmmmmmm
why was it fine skipping 3x and 4x
but not 7x

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

fuck now i'm getting paranoid
@mena can you libspew yourself a bit more k thx

this actually makes me legit worried about datisi being fash

go on?

I feel like you're faking paranoia of me based on bad reasons

I also think I've already spewed my slot and I don't like the fact that you're acknowledging that while trying to shade me based on associationals

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plus just tonally that reminds me of you in 892

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someone do the math

what if we topdeck twice and then draw the cards

gonna be real w/ you chief that sounds like a terrible idea

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I mean yeah that would be great but do we not just also lose if we hit two reds in a row in a row and literally any fascist gets in after that, and that's

if

people have been truthful?

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ok any questions

ja, eines. was genau machen wir hier Ich kam für die Gang Bang und Scat Show.

BRUH

What? Im a method player.

this was hilarious, just ftr

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what does splitting the deck mean

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wait, nvm, I'm dumb

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mildly concerned as of page 6 that dweller is a fascist spewing VV fash too

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nom: datisi

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I'm aware this almost certainly gets voted down but I thought I might as well vote who I want to get the pass through

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it's getting one Jah, I'll tell you right now

what confuses you? I might as well vote who I want to vote [because it's almost certainly getting voted down] to get the pass [of who is the president] through

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y not

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it's just you and me here dats

thread will prob be locked by the time the others show up

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guilty conscience maybe

something to get off your chest

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dweller

has chosen to investigate

Egix96.

They have been informed whether

Egix96

is affiliated with the

Fascist

or

Liberal

party.

Session 7

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is the next presidental candidate.

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chose to nominate

Datisi

as Chancellor, but later retracted this decision by PM. The next game action is for the President to nominate their Chancellor.

dweller

and

Egix96

are not valid choices due to term limits.[/size]

The deadline for the next legislative session is (expired on 2019-11-09 17:30:00).

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hmm, that did not work

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dweller

and

Egix96

are not valid choices due to term limits.

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I'm SENDING the

meme

vote

in

and

you

can't

STOP

ME

also what oka asked

omg Datisi how could you do something so foolish and irresponsible

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Meme voting is antiliberal and profacist.

Do you want to bring about a facist government for the lulz?

yeah what this guy said, jeez

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A Ja vote for Menas gov is a vote for facism.

Vote Nein in '19.

Hold out for a FF presidency!

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Vote Nein Nein Neinteen

(or meme vote if u want, u kno just do what ur heart tells you)

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we get it early cause we're cool

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yo okay unrelated to the game
i was like "hmm it's almost 3 am i should go to bed"
and the church bells outside start chiming so i'm like "oh shit it's actually 3 am i need to go sleep"
and i look at the clock on my laptop and it says 2:00 am
and i look at the above post and it says 2:54 am
and i almost start having a panic attack in this tired state like what the fuck is happening

then i remember
the daylight savings/standard time switch

ok i'm going to bed

LAL dats is conf!scum

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goddamn guys how much more fun is this game now that I've joined

you've gone from 8 pages in 5 sessions to 8 pages in 2

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Oh yeah
That's all you
Nobody else
No other replacement that could've possibly made this game fun
Just you

v true, exactly

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goddamn guys how much more fun is this game now that I've joined

you've gone from 8 pages in 5 sessions to 8 pages in 2

Well when youre a facist you have to have some fun, cant all be marching and jerking hitler off.

duh doi exactly

it's got to be mostly marching and jerking hitler off tho, otherwise what's the point in being fash?

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Wait I thought you

were

Hitler

Wait I thought you

were

Hitler

If he is jerking hitler off he could still be hitler.

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Hey, you know what you COULD do if you don’t like this plan dweller

You COULD vote Ja

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I mean, obviously you wouldn’t, bc like FF said, that’s claiming fash


But

You

could

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Like for real, I need my fascists vote yes so I know who they are tomorrow

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Send ja votes in people!

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Send ya* votes in people!

Whoopsie

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Lil typo there

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There’s a lot of evidence to read me as a liberal if we’re not being mechanical tbf

Also, I think I should be the first chancellor of the next session if another fascist policy passes

After all, Hitler would never be this open about being Hitler, right?

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So we all voted Ja right

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for the memes

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Sons, I am disappoint

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Hope we all did the denocratic thing here and voted NEIN

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hey, what's the uk emergency number?

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NEIN NEIN NEIN

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can I be president after red 3 tho

bc I really wanna shoot someone

playing this game by meta is boring

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what is td again?

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I support the plan of going 7

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VOTE: 7

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So, I mean

Egix is obviously a fascist right

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Also just ftr I object to randomising policies because it massively interferes with our ability to deduce what’s going on

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No I’m being serious

Do we really believe that they just so happened to get 3R twice in a row?

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Yeah but both times egix/dweller have gone to bat they’ve drawn RRR no?

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I would significantly prefer waiting. I don’t think it was an unreasonable decision, but I do think it makes the game more difficult

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Dweller is scum with Mena here.

FF I swear to you that you don’t wanna do this right now

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Mizzy we chill

+1

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I don’t really think dats is fash but she could be Hitler maybe

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btw if i get the gun i'm 100% shooting dweller

and again i'm very worried about hitty-deepwolf-FF but tbh might be the best to just end the game right there if that's the case

Ditto tbh

I don’t think fash let Hitler not be involved in elections

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Because otherwise how does he get elected chancellor post 3 reds

Like town is gonna take a gamble on getting it right in people who haven’t touched the deck? Nah

They gotta move it onto hitty beforehand I think

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Make me chancellor tbh

Bold play

Why?

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You think I'm Hitler?

Idk maybe, why should I gamble the game on you not being Hitler?

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errr, dweller and I are in a soft conflict

but other than that nothing else

Explain

I drew RRR and passed RR to you
then dweller drew RRR as well

so either the deck had 6 R's in a row or one of us is bullshitting

Yeah, dweller is lying.

How are you thinking that I call out dweller when I do but that I’m also fash

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So, I mean

Egix is obviously a fascist right

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btw if i get the gun i'm 100% shooting dweller

and again i'm very worried about hitty-deepwolf-FF but tbh might be the best to just end the game right there if that's the case

Ditto tbh

I don’t think fash let Hitler not be involved in elections

what's this ditto to?

Fears of FF-deepwolf

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If dats is scum here she either plays totally differently to when she’s playing mafia or she’s improved her game yet again

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But her seeming v towny is exactly why I’m worried she might be hitty

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Everyone is a gamble. You want to pick someone who is least likely to be Hitler as chancellor

Well purely fmpov that’s me but it doesn’t really help anyone and there’s no good mechanical reason for me to think you’re a safer bet than there are mechanical reasons for you to think I am the safer bet

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mena what is your current thought on dweller?

So, I mean

Egix is obviously a fascist right

Oh whoops I mixed up dweller and egix lol

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Wait did I

Who investigated whom?

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But her seeming v towny is exactly why I’m worried she might be hitty

Nah. Can't be. You're Hitler.

...?

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Why is dats lib?

Blues, I trust egix/dweller pairing less, general tone

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Mena were you seriously contemplating getting oka into the govt?

That doesn’t rly matter I just wanted to know why fhpov he should be considered

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Dats got forced on both and passed reds to fish

I would be more likely to believe dats over FF if they were to conflict

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And didn't dats support the meme election on the first attempt?

That's true.

Lol

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Hey look I can make worthless posts too

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Shocker

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Mena is fascist not hitler

How are you getting to this

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Whereas you’ve done what precisely

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Cuz ur being unlikeable but you seem like you want to stop fish from having gun when fish is towny

Yeah me being unlikeable when FF wants to call me fash/Hitler for no good reason whatsofuckingever really isn’t indicative of jackshit

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Hey look I can make worthless posts too

All your posts this game have been useless.

I'd be shocked if you did anything worthwhile.

If you’re such a basic fucking player that you think I’ve been doing nothing all game maybe re-evaluate yourself

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I rep in and find out we’re playing almost entirely through meta, try to sort people, and you want to pull that shit out

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“I’ve played counter to libs” how

Explain how exactly

Did I ever meaningfully try and shift the balance away from who was getting elected

Was I bored and playing around because being in a situation where I was never gonna get a touch of of playing because of meta reasons

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If you were actually lib here you’d be thinking about this beyond the most basic bitch level available to you

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Also which one is it

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I’m fash or I’m Hitler

The playstyle is totally different

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If you meaningfully held the belief you’re espousing you wouldn’t be flip flopping over which one I am

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If we are playing to meta and have a good chance of winning that way as liberals, why would you want to fuck that up by playing the way you did?

If you're a Lib than it was benefiting you.

If you're a Fascist then it was going to hurt you and you needed to change the way we were playing or you'd have no chance.

What, where my partner is dweller? Why would I need to fuck that up?

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Or if I’m Hitler why do I stir the pot when I just have to wait for things to get fucked up by my fascists who then angle to get me in

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If you were actually lib here you’d be thinking about this beyond the most basic bitch level available to you

Is that why you've resorted to name calling? Trying to rustle my jimmies and make a bad choice?

You wanna get down and dirty? I don't think you've even seen me unleashed before. You don't want to Mena.

No come the fuck on then FF

I’m not having a good night and I gave you fair warning

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Oooh, I’m so scared of the big bad fishy

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Such a frightening character with his nasty words on the internet

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I’m

quaking

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Or if I’m Hitler why do I stir the pot when I just have to wait for things to get fucked up by my fascists who then angle to get me in

Cause if you only have 1 in the 4 that has control you lose.

Still doesn’t answer why I stir the pot as Hitler

I obviously let one of my fascists get burned doing that to give myself the best chance of getting elected

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Actually I’m going

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Sorry

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I shouldn’t have come to play here to cool down I should just get off site for a bit

My bad fishy I don’t actually have a problem with you

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Mena whats ur dream gov wo yourself

Quickly before I go I’d say dats president idk who for chancellor

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Mena how would you play your situation as fascist

I haven’t really thought about it but I wouldn’t feel comfortable enough to spend my first bunch of posts memeing about being Hitler

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But yeah like I said I really need to take a break

Sorry I’m not really in a great way and it’s noone here’s fault

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Yeah, sorry about yesterday, I was being toxic and it was uncalled for.

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My only strong read is dats lib

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Vex, how is your logic simultaneously:

-fash wants to play to meta
-mena is fash

When I’ve clearly been the person most bored by playing to meta and trying to make the game interesting by not doing that the whole time

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u do realize that you could've just submitted nein but joked about saying yes without following through?

what if we all memed and ja'd

Then it would have been hilarious

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Oof i really don’t know how I feel about this one

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I’m having some major paranoia that dats is Hitler and ff is fash

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Idk would that make sense from a long term strategy perspective if you know the other fascist was in the other meta pair?

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Idk I’m not really strong on oka it vex

But unless it’s one of those two plus exactly dweller and egix then I think probably one of dats/FF must be fash?

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And like I don’t think that vex + oka is a thing unless they’re confident that their hitty is looking lib enough to get elected as chancellor which would also imply one of FF/dats

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what’s our deadline to submit votes on this, mizzy?

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Happy bday kori!

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My only strong read is dats lib

I’m having some major paranoia that dats is Hitler and ff is fash

So what's changed here?

Nothing? You’re either lib or Hitler imo

You look v lib, so I think that strongly. However, that’s exactly what Hitler would do, hence paranoia

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Not really? I think you’re probably a liberal

However, I can’t preclude the possibility that the reason I think this is because you have been making an active effort to look like a liberal (through playing in a pro-lib way) despite actually being Hitler, so as to increase the odds of being selected as Hitler after hz was reached

The fact that you seem to have quite quickly become the candidate further feeds that paranoia, and I really need to check whether you!hitty FF!fash is something that makes sense based on the timing of when you passed your fash policy

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I mean Hitler literally should play as a lib, so again, I don’t see the inconsistency

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mildly concerned as of page 6 that dweller is a fascist spewing VV fash too

can you elaborate on this?

Not really, I forgot why I was thinking this

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I don’t see a contradiction in saying that I read you as lib but am also paranoid that you’re Hitler and tbh I don’t like that you’re trying to present this as an artificial dichotomy rather than two things that I’m able to believe at the same time

(1) I believe datisi is a liberal on play and tone

Does not conflict with

(2) datisi could very well be Hitler

Because

(3) Hitler would play as a liberal. Not

fake

playing as a liberal, but would actually play as a liberal. Pass liberal policies, look for fash, and trust that in spite of them doing this their fascists will be working behind the scenes to both (a) pass fash policies and (b) get Hitler elected once it’s hz

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mena why werent u going ham earlier on datisi

Hmmm? Wdym?

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I think we may be talking past each other here. When I say hitty's fake-playing as liberal, I mean that they cannot "real" play as lib since they're not lib.

What I'm asking I guess is do you think that I'd be able to fake the tone? Or do you think i am doing that?

Why can’t hitty play as a real liberal?

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Seriously, what the fuck are we waiting on?

I've voted. Who hasn't?

C’est moi

But I assume that it it’s gone through already then it would have been posted? Idk maybe not

mod, if you have already received 6 votes and there is a majority, please put me down as yes so we can move on

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mena why werent u going ham earlier on datisi

Hmmm? Wdym?

You had plenty of time to bring up concern but you are doing it now at a very inconvenient time

I think this is prob the most important time to bring this up as we’re now in hz?

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Why can't scum play as a real Townie?

Because they know who each other are and can’t insta-win if they’re perceived as town for 1 vote, meaning they have to be doing things to further their agenda or they’ll lose

Whereas Hitler Can and should play as liberal as possible in a genuine way because it’s gg if they do and then get elected off the back of it

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I’d really like to hear back from dweller, egix, kori before I vote

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Also, seeing as things are gonna be publicised after if people could claim their votes that would be good

If we have a claimed majority then I’ll vote yes so we move on

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Well my logic is there’s really no incentive for libs to lie here because if it goes over 4 Ja’s I’ll prob just vote so we can end day and see if dats is hitty or no

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Mena what do you want to hear?

What you think of dats chancellor, why u weren’t in any of the discussion of dats chancellor, and what you voted on this election

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Mena what do you want to hear?

What you think of dats chancellor, why u weren’t in any of the discussion of dats chancellor, and what you voted on this election

Are you worried that she may be hitler?

Yis

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Hmmm

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Yeah dweller is defo fash, dats is a liberal

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Unless this is f/f in which case fair because that was some v solid theatre

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Nah, I think now we need to sort FF as if he’s fash then he can shoot a lib and we go to random draws

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Oh wait, hang on, how many blues/reds are supposedly left in?

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Dweller “confirmed” egix, right?

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Okay, so the sorting for the moment is in (FF, egix, vex, oka)

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Why do you need me to vote rapido fam?

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It is when we have like a week until deadline and haven’t heard anything from vex, v little from oka or egix

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Fmpov you’re about 50/50 on liberal or fash

What are the odds on this many draws of RRR in quick succession?

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If they’re v low (which I suspect) then something funky is up

If it’s that egix is fash then you’re more likely lib

But if egix is actually lib then you could be fash

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Like I think I’m leaning lib!you but not sure, and if I’m wrong then this is potentially game losing

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I think FF could be fash

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Just voted ja, so we’re moving on

Are you hitty dats?

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Cool

I will be kinda sad if you’re trolling btw

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Huh I was just assuming that votes were final due to it being secret Hitler

mizzy, are votes final once submitted or can they be changed?

Feels too gameable if they can be modified after submission

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I thought there was already a majority, no?

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I think FF could be fash

Running out of people to stick it on?

Do you genuinely think I’m fash here

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I should be chancellor

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Dweller and egix should be the next Gov in some fashion.

I don't trust dweller anymore though.

Hard disagree, dweller is outed fash

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Which in turn means egix is unconf’d

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If we assume that egix/dweller dropped at least 1 blue what does that mean for what should be left in the deck?

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I mean I would rather have the de facto conf!lib as presi than oka

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I’m gonna let datisi clear that up for me then

Okay why is egix not plausibly hitty?

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Also are we not also p fucked if we have a hitty presi because unless they draw BBR they can pass RR and shoot a lib

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I genuinely have no idea what you mean

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I don’t think we do bc that means that we’re going 3/3 and random drawing for a win which is +fash EV no?

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I genuinely have no idea what you mean

You are never seeing a winning election for you or dweller again in this game.

Idk why you’re insistent on this when I am as transparently liberal as I am

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What is your actual argument for me being fash?

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I’m gonna let datisi clear that up for me then

Okay why is egix not plausibly hitty?

Dweller cleared egix which means that he had to because egix is actually liberal, or dweller knew egix was fascist but if he knew he was fascist and wouldn't out his false clear then we'd know that egix isn't hitty and most likely is just liberal and dweller is fascist.

Wouldn’t dweller have to false clear hitty tho? Like what’s the good in fash!dweller conf!fashing egix as fash?

We’d have them in conflict and they’d both be locked out from future elections which is prob losing

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I don’t wanna get into a pissing match with you either and I think you’re probably lib at this point but you’re pushing angles I don’t rly understand today

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Like, I think scum!you just passes RR last election takes the shot on either dweller and then uses that to dictate this election phase or shoots a lib to tie it up and random draw at what is definitely better odds for fash than libs

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So we’re at a point where fypov you and dats are both libs, leaving you to sort in 5

Dweller is conf!fash leaving you to look in the 4 of (me, oka, egix, vex) which is exactly 2 libs 1 fash 1 hitler

Fmpov there’s exactly 1 lib in (oka, egix, vex) which is why I don’t like that you’re pushing that to be the govt even tho I think you’re prob lib here

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Dats what is your read on me?

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I think there are good odds this game is fucked if you and FF think I’m fash here