Clue (Game over, gauging interest in new game with new mod)

[StrangerCoug]

Board is current to post #323.

RULES

1. The game will be played to the rules listed here. If you need a detective sheet, you may get it from this source. (I recommend printing one off even if you are in the replacement queue so catchup is faster.) The rest of these rules are additions and clarifications by me only.
   
2. When you are PM'd your cards, confirm receipt by PM'ing me back in the order in which you want me to give priority in the event you have multiple cards that could disprove a suggestion. (This order may be changed at any time; just PM me with the new order.) If you PM cards yourself, you must wait for the players between you and the suggesting player (if any) to pass and I must also receive the PM.
   
3. When rolling, tell me the exact path you wish to take.
   
4. Suggestions and accusations must be in bold to count. If you are not ready to make an accusation after your suggestion, bold the words
   End turn
   to officially allow the next player to roll. If your move does not take you where you can make a suggestion, your turn automatically ends thereafter by default.
   
5. It's blurry in the source photo, but for players unfamiliar with the board, one secret passage connects the conservatory with the lounge and the other connects the kitchen with the study.

PLAYERS

1. Miss Scarlet:
   Gamma Emerald
   replaces Menalque
   
   
2. Col. Mustard:
   Pine
   
3. Mrs. White:
   skitter30
   
4. Mr. Green:
   Nancy Drew 39
   replaces dsjstr, who replaced Malkon05, who replaced Panzerjager, who replaced Formerfish
   
   
5. Mrs. Peacock:
   Datisi
   
6. Prof. Plum:
   Xtoxm

REPLACEMENTS

lilith2013

[StrangerCoug]

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Do you have a character preference?

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All right, about to shuffle the cards. You should have your hands later tonight.

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You should all have now received your cards. Please PM the priority order for disproving suggestions to confirm.

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Everyone has confirmed. Menalque may begin.

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Yes, the rules say to use a 1d6 and not a 2d6. Voiding Menalque's roll; go again.

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I’m going to say that in British Cluedo we use 2d6 and none of you are British so you can’t disprove that

Some American versions of the game use two dice, too, so don't feel too bad.

Also, you're technically supposed to explicitly state when you're ending your turn, but at this early stage I'm going to assume that it's

WAY

too early for Menalque to even think about making an accusation and make it Pine's turn.

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skitter30's turn.

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We come back to Menalque.

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I fill my lungs with air and proclaim:

I SUGGEST IT WAS MR GREEN, IN THE LOUNGE, WITH A WRENCH

Pine shows you a card.

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Whoops, probably shouldn’t have posted that hey

I got you. I don't think anyone else saw

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skitter30's turn. She may

make a suggestion from the lounge, take the secret passageway to the conservatory and suggest there, or

roll and go somewhere else.

Edit:

My bad—it

IS

her turn, but I thought she was controlling Mr. Green, not Mrs. White.

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NOW

Mr. Green (A.K.A. Formerfish) may suggest from the lounge or take the secret passage to the conservatory if he wishes

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Yes.

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Suggestions must be public.

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I'm going to shimmy down that hidden passage and pop out the other side to yell,

It was Miss Scarlett with the Knife in the Conservatory!

Datisi shows you a card. I'll update the board later today.

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That's enough for 1x Right, 1x Down, Enter Conservatory right?

I suggest it Was Mr Green, in the Conservatory, with a Revolver!

skitter30 shows you a card.

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I'll blow all of it going one step into the Dining Room, and declare

Professor Plum, Rope, Dining Room

skitter30 shows you a card.

[StrangerCoug]

Can we institute a simple rule like no guessing to win until turn 7 or 8? Just auto-end turns unless someone wants to take a stab at it.

Nope. You have to end your turn manually since you can only accuse on your turn

[StrangerCoug]

Im gonna go through the tunnel back to the lounge and guess

Plum, knife in the lounge

None of your opponents have any of those cards.

Could we just add a thing where you add that you’re not planning on making an accusation in the same post where you do you move/suggestion

I've allowed it in the past by posting "End Turn" in the same post as the move/suggestion; I'm open to allowing conditional "end turns" as well if the other players agree.

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...and I've just noticed that I have the knife directly on top of Prof. Plum's token xD

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Leave the Conservatory, 3 steps to the right, enter the Ballroom

I suggest Miss Scarlet, in the Ballroom, with the candlestick

Pine shows you a card.

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OP should now be current. If there are any mistakes, let me know.

Actually, nope—the board was still out of date. Fixed.

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See edit to my previous post.

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Once you roll, you're committed to actually moving the number of spaces thrown.

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Prodded Menalque.

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Ah fuck it mrs white in the ballroom with the rope

skitter30 shows you a card.

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Psst... Don't forget to officially declare the end your turn

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You can't go that way. Plum's blocking the door to the lounge.

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Not legal either. You can't leave and reenter the same room on the same turn.

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skitter30 may finally go.

Edit:

I processed Pine's move based on what I believed he intended based on context; if his token is in the wrong position, he may correct it.

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When your character is used in a suggestion, it is moved to the room the suggestion is made from.

Edited to add:

You may make a suggestion from the ballroom if you wish since you were moved there.

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i walk 3 spaces to the left and enter the conservatory

mrs peacock, with lead pipe, in conservatory

end turn

Datisi shows you a card.

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Panzerjager replaces Formerfish.

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Normally, you would be committed to moving once you threw the dice, but since Prof. Plum is blocking the only door out and Formerfish had already made a suggestion since he moved his token into the lounge, you're forced to take the secret passage to the conservatory.

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K, am I committed to the conservatory? I'm fine just using the dice and going to the dining room

Yeah, you're committed to the conservatory. You can't move onto the same space as another token during your move, which is why you can't go to the dining room from the lounge (and also why Pine couldn't enter the lounge).

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plum knife conservatory

Datisi shows you a card.

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Thank you

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Leave the Conservatory, one right, the rest up (should be right in front of the Billard room door?)

One right and five up isn't possible, but two right and four up

does

put you directly in front of the billiard room door; is that what you meant?

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And I'm going to assume you want to officially end your turn and make it Xtoxm's turn.

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To be fair, I was thinking of automating ending your turn if you end your turn outside a room unless you make an

accusation

in the same post. I'm opposed to automating the end of turn immediately after a suggestion since the results could give a player enough information to feel ready making an accusation. I'll put up a poll to ask that.

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And up. For clarity, either choice would still require you to manually end your turn after making a suggestion.

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suggest peacock, knife, conservatory

Menalque shows you a card.

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Happy birthday

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Acknowledged. Pine's turn.

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West, south to ballroom.

Mustard, Rope, Ballroom

skitter30 shows you a card, and it is her turn.

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Oh, and by the way, you couldn't have gone west and then south; but you could have east one, south three, and west one to get to the ballroom. This is the last time I am changing a route from an illegal one to a legal one with the same destination; please remember that your path cannot pass through squares occupied by another player.

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Isn't peacock meant to be in the conservatory now

Good catch. Will fix when I update the board.

Panzerjager's turn.

Edited to add:

Since he's forced to take the secret passage to the lounge, he can just make a suggestion there without explicitly moving to the lounge.

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The vote is near-unanimous (11 to 1) in favor of allowing turns to end automatically if you're not where you can make a suggestion, so that will be added to the rules.

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white, knife, lounge

Datisi shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or end your turn?

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Datisi's turn. The conservatory door is now unblocked.

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Xtoxm's turn.

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Acknowledged; Menalque's turn.

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mr green, rope, ballroom

skitter30 shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or pass?

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Pine's turn, then.

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skitter30's turn.

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Prodded skitter30. To account for the possibility of her not realizing it was her turn since I forgot to edit the thread title, I'm giving her 48 hours instead of my typical 24 when I prod for a forum game.

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i make a suggestion,

colonel mustard; wrench; dining room

Menalque shows you a card.

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Panzerjager's turn.

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Prodded Panzerjager.

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Scarlet, rope, ballroom

skitter30 shows you a card.

Datisi's turn.

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Acknowledged; will update the board later. Xtoxm's turn.

[StrangerCoug]

Board finally updated; prodding Xtoxm and giving him 48 hours.

P.S. It's a good idea to check the thread on a regular basis even if the title doesn't say it's your turn, and not just so you hold up the game because you're not aware it's your turn—you're entitled to use all information I post publicly here. Only that which I PM you is meant to be private.

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suggest plum, knife, ballroom

skitter30 shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or pass?

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Prodded Menalque. Let's try to keep the game moving, please.

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Pine's turn.

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Prodded Pine.

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Four north into the Lounge.

Candlestick, Lounge, Mustard

Panzerjager shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or pass?

[StrangerCoug]

Massprod sent out. I'll allow skitter30 another (expired on 2020-03-12 22:41:21).

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Panzerjager is up.

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Malkon05 replaces Panzerjager.

[StrangerCoug]

It may be necessary to replace Malkon05 depending on how much availability he has for this game; stand by, please.

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Malkon05 has replaced out in favor of dsjstr.

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The rule sheet linked in the OP calls for a 1d6, not a 2d6. Please roll again.

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Datisi is up now. Thank you for your patience.

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two north, enter billiard room

Plum, Knife, Billiard

Xtoxm shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or pass?

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Menalque is up.

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Will prod Menalque if he hasn't moved by the time I get done with my mock interview tomorrow.

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Prodded Pine.

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Secret passage to Conservatory.

Acknowledged, will update the board at some point after I finish dinner.

Plum, Knife, Conservatory

dsjstr shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or pass?

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skitter30 is up.

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Board should now be current. dsjstr is up.

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Prodded dsjstr.

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PM'd Iconeum asking if he's ready to stand by. The countdown in the prod to dsjstr (which expires in (expired on 2020-03-29 23:18:16)) will be honored, meaning he will not officially replace dsjstr prior to that point in any circumstance.

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Iconeum is unavailable to replace in, so looking for a replacement for dsjstr. If he rolls by the time I announce a replacement, he may keep his spot.

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Thanks Will send you the relevant information, then you can take your turn.

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Nancy Drew 39 has picked up her PM but was confused by it; will go a bit easy on her until she understands the information given her.

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And it's not exactly helping that the site's being slow for people at times, including me.

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Now just tell me the path you want to take on the board. That's a high enough roll for either the ballroom or the kitchen, so you can just tell me you're going there without actually have to list the steps. When you enter a room, you make a suggestion of who committed the crime and with what in that room.

Also, so it doesn't cause problems later: A suggestion can only be made from the room you want to use in the suggestion, and the response you get is a card to disprove your suggestion. The first person after you who can disprove your suggestion is the person whose card you see; if the person has multiple cards, the player's chosen card priority decides. An accusation is similar, but even though it can be made from anywhere,

you stake the game by accusing.

If your accusation is completely right, you win; if even one part of your accusation is wrong, you lose. For this reason, you should not accuse until you are sure you know the solution.

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I'm not 100% sure I understand the question. If you're asking which room is better, I can't help you with that—they're pretty much the same mechanically except that the rooms in the corners are connected diagonally to each other, though strategically, your choice might be influenced by the first PM I gave you. If you're asking which of suggesting or accusing is better, stick with suggesting until you know enough to accuse.

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I cannot tell you that. Please check the rules in the OP.

Also keep in mind that I've been patient so far but other people are waiting on their turns and I had been complaining about how slow the game has gotten before you replace in. Please decide quickly.

Edit:

Matter of fact, I'm giving you (expired on 2020-04-11 13:10:14) to complete your turn. After that, you will be replaced.

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Kitchen

OK, so in full, that's two steps up, three steps right, and one step down into the kitchen, at which point...

Mustard, candlestick, kitchen

...Pine shows you a card (and would like you not to tell anybody else what he showed you )

Datisi finally gets a turn again.

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scarlet, revolver, library

Xtoxm shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or pass?

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Xtoxm is up.

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mrs white, knife, conservatory

Nancy Drew 39 shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or pass?

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Is this the first game or have multiple been run here?

I run it every few years thereabouts. It's been done before by other people, too.

Menalque's turn.

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Prodded Menalque.

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Checking if Gamma Emerald is ready to replace.

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Gamma Emerald replaces Menalque. Roll when ready.

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I suggest Colonel Mustard with the Revolver in the Library

Pine shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or pass?

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I think I’m ready to make an accusation.

Miss Scarlet with the Lead Pipe in the Study

That is incorrect. I am sorry. If you would like to know the correct solution, please PM me.

Pine's turn.

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Here is fine.

Plum, Lead Pipe, Library

Datisi shows you a card.

Would you like to make an accusation or pass?

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skitter30 is up (despite me briefly changing the title to say it's Nancy Drew 39's—that's my bad).

[StrangerCoug]

I assume you mean east because the only door out of the conservatory leads east.

Nancy Drew 39's turn. As a reminder, she may, if she wishes, take the secret passage to the study; however, if she rolls, she can no longer take the secret passage this turn.

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Mrs. White, rope, study

End turn.

Datisi shows you a card, and it is his turn.

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Here goes nothing.

I accuse Plum, with a Revolver, in the Kitchen.

That is correct

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I'll think about it It will probably be another thread, though.

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is this correct?

Yep

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Not in this thread, but anyone who's interested in running another game in another thread is free to.

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i'd run clue if people are keen!!

I'm good with it Anything you need, I can send you.

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