Battlestar Galactica- Cylons Win!

[ChannelDelibird]

In. Yes to first house rule, flat-out wouldn't play a game with fleet board AND cylon attack crises, that'd be insane. Prefer fleet board to cylon attack crises.

Destination preference: Earth > Ionian Nebula > Kobol > New Caprica

Prefer Final Five but not Personal Goals

Also would prefer a gentleman's agreement not to pick Cain unless we variant the shit out of her OPG

EDIT: Misread your wording as a possible house rule of both Fleet Board & CACs. Yes to the Fleet Board, please, but I don't mind a great deal either way.

[ChannelDelibird]

As for other stuff, will look later, but as a placeholder, whatever CDB says.

Feel free to leave this placeholder for the entirety of the game.

[ChannelDelibird]

God has a plan for you, humans. It mostly involves pilots.

[ChannelDelibird]

Spending a 'miracle' on killing somebody who'll just come back the next day would be an action hardly worthy of the name, Callandra.

[ChannelDelibird]

It's your funeral.*

*It's mine.

[ChannelDelibird]

Confirm! Drawing only two as a Cylon Leader, so I'll take

one

Politics

and one

Engineering

.

You'll be pleased to know that God's plan doesn't yet involve your gruesome demise. With that in mind, I might recommend finding a way to get Kara out into space before the start of her turn. It's her destiny, after all.

[ChannelDelibird]

If your underlings are unable or unwilling to take your

orders

, Admiral, then a show of strength is in order. A barrage from Pegasus CIC should show them who's in charge.

[ChannelDelibird]

No move, Admiral? My recommendation for Pegasus CIC still stands (Weapons Control if you're feeling conservative).

[ChannelDelibird]

Setting up for an attack on the basestar seems like common sense to me, regardless of the artificiality of those proposing it. Having somebody on Pegasus is a bonus.

[ChannelDelibird]

Starbuck speaks sense. Of course, if none of you have a

plan

, I suppose it depends how highly the Admiral values his cards...

[ChannelDelibird]

Hera's place is with a more civilised race than yours, Mr President. You'd be wise to let this one go.

[ChannelDelibird]

I want the same thing I've always wanted - for you to understand your destiny. Accept that you will lose Hera and spare yourselves the heartbreak of trial and failure. I have seen it.

I'm pretty much going to balls-out roleplay this as heavily as possible, for both secrecy-rules and fun purposes. If that becomes a problem for anyone, please let me know.

[ChannelDelibird]

Ye of little faith.

[ChannelDelibird]

The Admiral understands. With so far to go until Earth, easier to recover from the setback you choose yourself than the disaster you risk.

But if you must defy your destiny, I won't stand in your way. Of course, that means I won't stand in the way of my brothers and sisters, either ... don't say I didn't warn you.

[ChannelDelibird]

As a revealed Cylon, I

pass on interrupts

for the skill check.

[ChannelDelibird]

Draw

Engineering

for my variable draw

Movement: Glimpse the Face of God

Where you see only the drop, I see the ripples...

[ChannelDelibird]

Action:

Activate

Human Fleet

to scout the top card of the

Destination

deck. Draw

1

Tactics

and

1

Piloting

.

[ChannelDelibird]

Leave the Destination on top.

I look forward to seeing where you fit into the tapestry, Admiral.

[ChannelDelibird]

Do you usually let your engineers wander about aimlessly on the ship when there's work to be done? Earth won't find itself, you know.

[ChannelDelibird]

It's hardly worth ficcing if it's canon.

[ChannelDelibird]

Luckily that wasn't a huge spoiler. WATCH THE DAMN SHOW, NYM.

[ChannelDelibird]

"Hot Dog", is it? Yes, even you, it seems, have a role to play in the grand cosmic pattern of what is to come and what has already been. Specifically, the role of 'man in background'. Your quaint Demetrius looks understaffed.

[ChannelDelibird]

And I still find it interesting that nobody seems to mind Cally wasting her time. You have a lot of work to do.

[ChannelDelibird]

With Earth in play and distance required before winning jump up to 10, you'll likely need to use the Demetrius to go searching for one of the Missions which grant extra distance (though there are some very useful ones that don't give distance too). Missions usually have high-ish skill check difficulty but can't be affected by cards with Skill Check abilities or interrupts, and you can attempt a maximum of one per jump cycle. Ideally you'd like to activate Tactical Plot (to scout the Mission deck), then Captain's Cabin (to give everyone cards that are positive for the check), then Bridge (to attempt the top Mission), but steps can be skipped as and when required.

[ChannelDelibird]

This is not the time for a celebration. Dare I say you'd only be tempting fate...

[ChannelDelibird]

I should be clear: Destiny is bad for you here and I would oppose you as well.

[ChannelDelibird]

A reminder for everyone to listen to absolutely nothing this person says, and if he ever infiltrates, throw him in a brig and then never let him out.

[ChannelDelibird]

I strongly recommend that you stay on the path that God has laid out for you, Kara. Together, we can perform a valuable test of the Admiral's mettle.

Stratplans seem like a waste with all raptors still functioning.

[ChannelDelibird]

In not-relevant-right-now-but-it's-Starbuck's-turn-at-least news, I recommend launching in an assault raptor next time so as to stay in space between jumps. It's Starbuck's best friend. I have absolutely no way to convey that through RP; I humbly apologise.

[ChannelDelibird]

I knew you'd find it in your heart to work with me, Kara.

No worries. I figured it was something like that. And it is an extremely unhelpful colour on Vassal.

[ChannelDelibird]

Pass on plans

(ceremonially)

[ChannelDelibird]

You must not face these challenges unprepared. I recommend

ordering

Hot Dog to the Captain's Cabin.

[ChannelDelibird]

The most recent official FAQ ruling is that basestars repair damage when they're moved from the main board to the fleet board during a jump, so unless you can destroy the basestar before we autojump (i.e. spend your last nuke on probably doing that), it seems like a waste.

[ChannelDelibird]

Some would take that as a less unfortunate sign.

[ChannelDelibird]

How often do you deploy nuclear weapons, anyway? But you know you have to reach Earth... I think your engineer is leaning rather too heavily on my metallic origins in her continuing campaign to waste all of your time.

[ChannelDelibird]

Be wary. Destiny does not have peace in your future. I cannot divert the will of my brothers and sisters ... but maybe I can help you hold them off.

[ChannelDelibird]

Correction: my contribution is low.

[ChannelDelibird]

Sudo, could you use a different colour for Politics cards please? That bright yellow is impossible to read on mafSilver.

[ChannelDelibird]

A rash decision, Mr President. With the Final Five concealed somewhere in your fleet, you might regret poking around blindly without consulting your peers beforehand.

In any case, Kara and I were already in the business of looking into the Admiral's loyalties. This is a waste of your resources.

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm going to tell you something important, Kara...

Spoiler:

Either your president is a liar or you have two Cylons on board. I could tell you which of the two is likelier, but I think you'll find out soon enough...

[ChannelDelibird]

Try

this

?

[ChannelDelibird]

An interesting decision for you here, Mr President. The fleet is preparing to leave this sector behind so you might not need to worry about a purposeless attack on my kin ... but there are five raider squadrons bearing down on Galactica. Do you feel lucky?

[ChannelDelibird]

I am, of course, against genocide. But it would have been interesting if your president had considered it.

Looking ahead, I'm considering paying you all a visit. Try not to wipe out my entire species before I get there.

[ChannelDelibird]

We are all but instruments of God. Everything else is splitting hairs.

[ChannelDelibird]

Curses.

[ChannelDelibird]

As people couldn't necessarily have known that it was coming, a little extra time to call for possible stratplans seems fair. Obviously i can't...

Not going to take my action yet until we're clear on the fuel roll.

[ChannelDelibird]

I definitely agree that people should make a habit of asking for a pause for stratplans but there can also be situations in which, say, Prozac might not care to play one but somebody still could if we were all playing this face to face.

[ChannelDelibird]

I make that implicit or explicit passes from everyone, so gonna carry on.

You can't ignore your destiny any longer, Kara. It's time that I guided you personally. I'll be on the radio while you're in the cockpit.

Action: Activate Human Fleet to inflitrate to Command.

Your engineer can kill me if she wants to, but I doubt that Cavil would be too pleased if what remains of her cover were blown so easily.

[ChannelDelibird]

I have no doubt that you could do this if you put your minds to it but not all Cylons are as friendly as I and your pilot seems to think that you will have need of your political acumen in the near future. I'm willing to make a sacrifice for you if you ask it of me ... but I'm open to suggestions.

[ChannelDelibird]

Bump for input, I won't let this go longer than 24 hours so last chance to influence my decision.

[ChannelDelibird]

FYI, secrecy rules prohibit you from claiming to have played specific cards into a check.

[ChannelDelibird]

As someone at one of the Cylon meetings once told me, sometimes you have to roll the hard six.

Take the OR; I'll discard two at random.

I hope you appreciate that I'm putting the needs of the many ahead of the needs of the few here.

[ChannelDelibird]

Well, I'd hoped not to lose that one.

[ChannelDelibird]

If your engineer asked you to spend resources - including your clearly important political capital - on something that she could do herself at minimal cost, I would refuse to help on principle.

[ChannelDelibird]

I've been reading up on your chain of command here in your cosy CIC, and I note the following:

If you remove Adama, the Admiralty passes to Starbuck (who is not one of the group of two which contains a guaranteed Cylon and has shown no signs of malice as she pursues her destiny).
If you call the lawyer's bluff and you do so in error, the Admiralty stays with a man you know to be a Cylon. Does that seem right to you?

Of course, the problem is that Cally is a Cylon and doesn't want to kill one of her own. I looked into the eyes of God, and He showed me the truth.

[ChannelDelibird]

As they say, Mr Adama, all of this has happened before and all of it will happen again.

Pass on interrupts.

I think that you should save your strength for the mission to come but I hope that I can trust you to let me out of sickbay. I have an appointment with destiny that it would be a shame to miss...

[ChannelDelibird]

The only acceptable play would have been Guts and Initiative as an interrupt. I should have thought to ask. I worry about destiny if you attempt a mission on Hot Dog's turn (which you probably should anyway, with hands this large).

[ChannelDelibird]

I think that you should save your strength for the mission to come

[ChannelDelibird]

You have all the help that I can give you for this but don't hold back - you are likely fighting against the forces of fate.

[ChannelDelibird]

Plus, y'know, Cally.

[ChannelDelibird]

The others haven't seen what I've seen.

You know, cause I spent the first one executing a cylon.

Eventually.

Frakking Toasters.

FTFY

[ChannelDelibird]

Popular Influence - 4
Investigative Committee - 4
Investigative Committee - 4
Investigative Committee - 3
Support the People - 1

Declare Emergency - 3
All Hands on Deck - 0

Launch Scout - 2

Evasive Maneuvers - 1

Interesting.

[ChannelDelibird]

Sorry to be That Guy but #308 is probably a secrecy violation, STD.

[ChannelDelibird]

You might as well take your turn in the meantime; it's not like you can play the skill card for its effect.

Sorry I wasn't here to weigh in on JDGA's choice but it was clearly the right one.

[ChannelDelibird]

I don't suppose you're in a position to discharge me...

[ChannelDelibird]

Pass on interrupts

There are no answers to be found at the bottom of a bottle. Ordinarily, I would oppose such a sin ... but I don't think it's worth throwing Mr Lampkin into the brig over it. After all, we're all only human here.

If you ask it of me, I could offer a little helping hand. But be warned that destiny is against you.

[ChannelDelibird]

Part of the reason why we were able to so comprehensively wipe out most of your race was efficient communication between our models. I think you humans could learn from that. Kara, you are not completely without expertise in this field. Nor you, Mr President. Let's talk about what we can do.

[ChannelDelibird]

I'd like to wait a few hours for people to give input on how much they can or can't play into this check, if that's OK. As previously indicated, I'm willing to be persuaded about playing into this check - I could play low or high or not at all but, as far as I'm concerned, either result of this check is frustrating for me so the main advantage here is a chance to build some trust with you guys as we communicate on what to do here. If I've not heard anything by the time that I go to bed, I'll make a play for the sake of moving on.

[ChannelDelibird]

I had hoped to hear from Cally but so be it. I'll help you a little.

Play 1 card, low

[ChannelDelibird]

Activate Pegasus CIC to fire at the fore basestar. Pass on Strategic Planning.

I have no fear for my brothers and sisters. They will float on down the stream and wash ashore again.

[ChannelDelibird]

Yes, I think one would be appropriate if someone has it. Sorry for not specifying.

[ChannelDelibird]

I beg to differ.

Anyway, looks like there's no stratplan forthcoming, so let's just get on with it.

Original Roll String: 1d8

1 8-Sided Dice: (1) = 1

[ChannelDelibird]

I don't understand why you put those two buttons next to each other.

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm sorry for breaking your ship. In penance, I'll let you decide how we proceed. I'm afraid I can't offer any help for this if you want to take on the black market, though ... sounds a little unethical for me. Genocide's one thing, but smuggling...

[ChannelDelibird]

Ahem

[ChannelDelibird]

Without a compelling preference either way, I'm going to take what is probably the safest long-term choice for me. If you're unhappy about this, talk more.

Choose the -1 food and discards/Treachery. Discard

1-Evasive Manoeuvres

.

[ChannelDelibird]

What's a few more people when you've already had most of them exterminated, anyway? This seems like a straightforward decision.

[ChannelDelibird]

Pass

[ChannelDelibird]

You can lead humanity away from its doom, Kara. Come with me and discover your true destiny.

[ChannelDelibird]

boooo lost the jump prep
But at least we aren't screwed on food (sorry about that Conoy, but we are only at distance 2 so you'll have plenty of time later) or nukes now.

Pass interrupts

No, this was the move you were meant to make. I'm proud of you, Kara.

I could play into this and would like you to pass it but I think you've got it and I don't want to muddy the water.

[ChannelDelibird]

Pass

[ChannelDelibird]

For the sake of speed, this sort of decision is the sort that should probably be CO'd when you submit cards for the skill check.

Given that Starbuck goes next, you should take out the basestar and heavy raider at fore.

[ChannelDelibird]

I don't know what I'd do with myself if you were shot down, Kara. Let the rookie loose on your reserves.

[ChannelDelibird]

I will also be on V/LA during the UK Scummers Meet (mine starts on the 10th and ends on the 16th). With luck, we might be able to finish my turn before I go but I'll check when I can and leave as comprehensive a set of COs as possible.

[ChannelDelibird]

You can't choose your family.

[ChannelDelibird]

Pass

I disapprove and would have liked to be consulted beforehand. I can't promise that there won't be consequences.

[ChannelDelibird]

What would you rather me have done?

I can't speak to the options that the quorum has ratified for you - we Cylons have no secrets from each other - but I'm sure that you had options there. Maybe you could have taken the opportunity to

consolidate

your power as there has been an unfortunate lack of

executive

decisions made ever since the Admiral revealed his true colours. Maybe you could have ordered the launch of a

scout

.

Work with me together and we can fulfil God's plan - and bear in mind that God is vengeful. Silence is not a virtue.

[ChannelDelibird]

God has a sense of humour.

I'd help if you confront the morale problem head-on, but these are two bad choices. Only you know how the quorum feels about food.

[ChannelDelibird]

Pass on interrupts

Now COing a play of one card, high. Be on your guard; the second Cylon wants this to fail.

[ChannelDelibird]

FWTJR contribute 2 by PM.

Cards are revealed:
Investigative Committee- 3
Consolidate Power- 2
Consolidate Power- 2
Consolidate Power- 1

Declare Emergency- 4
Executive Order- 2
Iron Will- 0

Launch Scout- 2
Launch Scout- 2
Guts and Initiative- 2

Final result is 20: Pass, -1 Morale. Iron Will does nothing.

COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER FFS

[ChannelDelibird]

I can check often enough to carry on, albeit slowly. But please feel free to use this time to suggest things to do.

[ChannelDelibird]

Probably going to need my draw before I decide what I do, so

Draw 2 Politics and 1 Engineering

. Sorry I forgot I'd need a third; so much for that CO. Suspect that Glimpsing might be more important than moving but we'll see

[ChannelDelibird]

Movement: Glimpse the Face of God

[ChannelDelibird]

The stream doesn't always carry you. Sometimes you have to be able to swim.

Action:

1-Launch Scout

on the Destination deck

Original Roll String: 1d8

1 8-Sided Dice: (5) = 5

[ChannelDelibird]

Bury that.

We'll have to swim a while longer.

[ChannelDelibird]

Following your destiny isn't always complicated.

[ChannelDelibird]

Play

2-Jury Rigged

as an interrupt.

This will be a milestone in the path to your destiny. Fate is on your side.

[ChannelDelibird]

Play A Second Chance 5

[ChannelDelibird]

Also I feel like I should just leave this here

[ChannelDelibird]

I would be much happier if Cally ended this check feeling exactly as miraculous as she did before it but I'd rather be sure of a pass.

[ChannelDelibird]

No harm in posting it here as well so everyone else knows to play.

[ChannelDelibird]

Cheers.

Lampkin, Cally, I've more or less done my part already but I could throw in one card if you need it. How much do you guys intend to throw in - do you need a little help from me?

[ChannelDelibird]

Someone's got to drag these meatbags to sleeper so that I can get the rest of my motives.

[ChannelDelibird]

Hmm. I don't think you need any more from me.

Pass

[ChannelDelibird]

Thinning the raiders is a good idea even if you can't save the civilians.

[ChannelDelibird]

Good call. Stratplans would be good if someone has one.

Pass

[ChannelDelibird]

Probably the right call.

[ChannelDelibird]

This one isn't my fight. Besides, I think you'd all rather get a better handle on each other right now rather than let me cloud things.

Pass on interrupts

[ChannelDelibird]

Peeps, please please please read the thread when it's not your turn and send in conditional orders when you know what you're going to want to do with a crisis (especially if we're not talking about it in the thread). This one skill check is going to have taken us a week to complete, which makes any hope of ever finishing this frakking thing pretty remote and sucks a lot out of the fun from playing through the months it's taking. This is officially getting ridiculous.

[ChannelDelibird]

Humanity is destined to find the temple, Bill. If you stay out of this now, you will find help further down the stream.

Pass on interrupts

[ChannelDelibird]

Looks like a no on interrupts.

Are you and I clear on what's going to happen here?

[ChannelDelibird]

You need to be able to look if you wish to see. Stand back from this.

[ChannelDelibird]

My contribution is low.

[ChannelDelibird]

Thanks for replacing in, SP!

Sudo, I think the fleet board rules bring in the lowest-numbered basestar sector, so port-quarter.

Note to players: I drew 1 politics, 1 engineering and 1 treachery just now.

[ChannelDelibird]

Regardless of basestar placement - but I'll need to know before I can CO my action - I will:

Movement: Glimpse the Face of God

[ChannelDelibird]

I can't be specific, but my Motives require me to do some things that will not always be strictly optimal for humanity.

[ChannelDelibird]

I love you plenty. But I might need some help from you guys in getting done what needs to get done for us to mutually profit.

[ChannelDelibird]

Oh. I must have been playing it wrongly! Oops. Never mind...

Action: Activate Pegasus CIC to fire on the basestar at 11 o'clock. Play

4-Strategic Planning

.

Original Roll String: 1d8+2

1 8-Sided Dice: (8)+2 = 10

[ChannelDelibird]

Destiny is bad here and would need to be compensated for. I can live with the check failing if I am swiftly XOed out of sickbay but, if no XO is forthcoming, then I would have to rethink how I've been approaching this game. The ideal scenario for me is the check passes and I get XOed anyway, because there are things that would best be done on this jump cycle, but I have a bit of room to compromise.

Adama, if you can help this check to pass, that's also valuable. Everyone needs to be talking to me here. How this check and the next couple of turns go are likely to be pretty important in deciding the camp with whom I throw my hat.

Pass on interrupts

[ChannelDelibird]

I hate hospitals. They're really more the Fours' thing.

Pass

Get me out of here.

[ChannelDelibird]

Well, I have a suspect, but I'm not sure that I want to tell you who it is.

Can you XO?

[ChannelDelibird]

I told you Cally was a Cylon.

[ChannelDelibird]

As far as I'm aware, Sky's interpretation is correct.

Discard 1-Consolidate Power and 4-Scientific Research.

Pretty sure you're going to want to come back as a politico even without being able to keep the presidency.

[ChannelDelibird]

Prozac, I think you should do tracks & civvies on the basestar bridge.

[ChannelDelibird]

I've done all I can here, and been offered no cooperation despite my work for humanity. Maybe I'll have more luck with showing the path to the Adamas.

Action: Exfiltrate

[ChannelDelibird]

I need you to take the more difficult road right now, which means not yet going for the easy morale kill. But we'll have to play it by ear a little bit. Be more flexible than the humans and we could enact God's plan together. Be rigid and I'll burn you.

[ChannelDelibird]

Humans, if you want me back on your side then you need to start shooting things that aren't each other.

[ChannelDelibird]

Destiny is good for you here. Think you can call that my contribution to this one.

[ChannelDelibird]

Sorry for the delay. Travel!

Play no cards

[ChannelDelibird]

If you pick a morale crisis, I will oppose you.

[ChannelDelibird]

I'm not yet ready for a quick end but time is on your side, not the humans', with their resources as low as they are.

I actually want them to get jump prep right now so, if you were to give them some here on a food/population/even fuel crisis, I would help you to make it hurt. But if you go in for the kill right now, you'll force my hand. Your true partner is either pleading her innocence in the Brig or slow-playing to avoid detection, so I'm the closest thing to a full-on second Cylon that you have right now. That disappears if you spurn me here.

[ChannelDelibird]

Which Riots is this? IIRC, there are two, with differing ship activations and jump prep.

[ChannelDelibird]

There's no ship activation on Caprica. I was asking because I was curious about jump prep. I guess this one doesn't have any? A shame.

[ChannelDelibird]

CDB? I hear you're interested in getting the human fleet a little further in space.

We have a position going in our Engine Room right now. If you're interested, hop on along to the Galactica and you can personally ensure your mission goals come to fruition!

Before your sudden and inevitable betrayal, of course ;___;

The time to make use of me on your own ship was when I was on your own ship. I can do an equivalent job on the Cylon locations and will happily do so if you humans start throwing me a bone or two. The way I see it, it's your turn to help me out, not the other way around.

[ChannelDelibird]

I agree that resources are your biggest problem. Morale, in particular, needs to be raised in order to stop Prozac from just murdering you all to total death.

Secrecy prevents me from being too explicit in saying what I need to have happen but I continue to ask that you play a more active role in fighting off the incoming fleet. Things would have been a lot easier if I'd been helped in doing this when it was more manageable, but that chance was missed, so now you've got a bigger fight on your hands. But proactivity here is required. If you don't make a serious dent in the fleet, winning with the humans becomes a very difficult proposition for me.

On the Cylon locations, I can use Caprica to get you jump prep/favourable crises without risking ship activations, and I can use the Human Fleet to scout crises and destinations while drawing a greater variety of skill cards. That's enough scope to help for what you've given me so far. With the level of cooperation that has so far been on offer for me from the humans, the extra skill contribution that would come with my infiltration is not enough of a reason for me to commit to helping you by returning to Galactica.

[ChannelDelibird]

Play 1 high

[ChannelDelibird]

Jeez, sorry for forgetting to CO my card draw.

Draw Politics, move to the Human Fleet and scout Crisis.

Bill, I'm-a need you to get off Caprica at your earliest convenience. Drawbacks gonna draw back.

[ChannelDelibird]

Bury the crisis, then draw 1 Politics and 1 Leadership.

[ChannelDelibird]

Discard 0-Dradis Contact

[ChannelDelibird]

Discard 2-Consolidate Power and

1-Launch Scout

[ChannelDelibird]

I'll be playing everything I can to fail this check, for the record. I'm not ready for game over, and certainly not a quick morale win.

[ChannelDelibird]

This is a pretty straightforward choice.

[ChannelDelibird]

Looking ahead to your turn, Big Billy, I would ask that you go to the Cylon Fleet and activate basestar attacks or heavy raiders. Both useful for you without condemning me to certain doom.

[ChannelDelibird]

What were the discarded skill cards?

[ChannelDelibird]

Morale is the way in which you could win quickest, but Caprica gives you no guarantee that you would get such a crisis and you are likely to end up just giving the humans jump prep, which they badly need. You also ought to factor in that, were you to go looking for that kind of win, you'd be forcing me to work with the humans.

With that in mind, I think the Cylon Fleet is the best option for you. Two basestar attacks this turn could very easily leave them on three damage on Galactica, with both the people who draw blue in the brig. Heavy raiders is less optimal for you but, again, they have two people in the brig so one boarding would tie down all their actions for the foreseeable future. You'd also have that sitting on there in case they jump.

From my perspective, I'd prefer heavy raiders to basestars to give me a little more time to get the game set to my goals, but basestars are probably the bigger and quicker threat so I'd say that they're your best bet. Basestar Bridge for one civvie plus one guaranteed damage is similarly useful but is more advancing two goals slowly (population & damage losses) than one goal quickly (damage loss using Cylon Fleet). I can't remember if the clown ship has been destroyed yet so, on the off chance that it's still alive, I'd prefer for you to be destroying fewer civilians.

I think activating basestars is your best option, all in all.

More subjectively, I want to use Caprica on my turn, and I can't move there if you're already standing there, due to my drawback. If you stay on that location, you'd probably be forcing me to infiltrate again so that I can start playing more cards against you in skill checks and repairing their shit. I don't mind so much if they stay in the brig but I'd work to help them out if you stay where you are. I might even OPG to give Tory my carefully curated hand of skills to screw with your ability to hurt them. I'd rather not, but I will if you make me.

[ChannelDelibird]

I mean, I said what I would do in your position. I'd take the slightly slower option towards still very likely victory without making the CL oppose you, as opposed to the way that

might

push you to a quicker victory that definitely pushes the CL away. 4v2 is a very different game to 3v3. And honestly, I'm really not that far from being able to work with you, but this is going to be a pretty critical turn.

[ChannelDelibird]

I think that it would be helpful to get Cally out as soon as possible. Ideally, that gets done with the Quorum to preserve hand strength but higher priority is to spring her quickly. I definitely recommend working with the Quorum as well, though. I'd rather see an Arrest Order on Starbuck than more cards flushed away through the Airlock, for example.

[ChannelDelibird]

Can't interrupt as currently a Cylon. I will be playing high into this.

[ChannelDelibird]

I don't think this is worth the cards at all.

[ChannelDelibird]

Also, SP, you should leave Sudo a CO for the order in which the raiders activate. It'll be important, but an easy way to save time.

[ChannelDelibird]

The main thing is to activate the starboard-bow sector last so that the other raiders will move toward the civilian rather than shoot at Galactica after it's destroyed, so there'll only be three raiders shooting at you rather than eight. That sector then becomes pretty nukeworthy next turn.

[ChannelDelibird]

Playing into this is a waste, dunno why you've spent the cards that you already have

[ChannelDelibird]

JDGA is on Pegasus, you can just damage that ffs

[ChannelDelibird]

I still support the Pegasus hit

[ChannelDelibird]

There are two basestars on the board. It would not be very difficult for Galactica to explode very quickly, especially with Hot Dog in the brig to slow jump progress and you guys being unable to assign damage to Pegasus on Cylon turns if they don't want you to, while you could lose valuable cards to fight that if Cally goes to sickbay. Meanwhile, on Pegasus, you have only a 25% chance of damaging the Airlock.

No-brainer to me, but your decision. In a game moving this slowly, I'd really rather that you made it quickly (or had had this discussion during the skill check when you knew that it was coming).

[ChannelDelibird]

God's plan is deeper than the weak can fathom. When it is at its most puzzling, that's when it's the clearest to see.

Dreadful fucking choice.

Crisis is:

Keep Tabs on Visitor
Current Player Chooses:
Difficulty 12 Politics +

Leadership

+

Tactics

Pass: No Effect
Fail: Roll a die. If 4 or lower, -2 Population
OR
The current player discards 4 random skill cards

Activate Raiders

, Jump Prep

Take the skill check

, should probably pass this, yo

[ChannelDelibird]

Game hates me

[ChannelDelibird]

Your funeral.

[ChannelDelibird]

Have you SEEN how low your population is?

[ChannelDelibird]

A Justified Response is a nightmare to fulfil with the fleet board, something which I didn't really appreciate until a few turns into the game. Everything was just peachy until morale dropped to 2, though. I couldn't remember if we'd already seen all of the morale-boost crises but we'd certainly had at least one... but yeah, that was immensely frustrating.

But good game, Cylons, you did exactly what you needed to do (and Prozac, who didn't have to delay for my sake but did anyway). And thanks very much to Sudo for sticking out this thing. I was tempted to run one myself, with some tweaks to characters and balance, after this game but the level of engagement in terms of keeping things moving here was really disappointing so I probably won't.

[ChannelDelibird]

That's a pretty horrible set of agendas. If you hadn't hinted strongly you had the get past 7 distance card then I might have been more inclined to listen to you.

I don't think I ever hinted at having such an agenda specifically - I might have said that I need more time, but that's because I did. I felt like some of my motives should have been relatively easy to deduce - I started to wonder if the reason why I wasn't getting much help in my repeated efforts to shoot things with Pegasus CIC was because the humans had twigged that I had A Justified Response, for example, while I rather heavy-handedly implied that I needed morale down early on, something on which I now obviously regret having pushed so heavily. But certainly Fight With Honour is hard to detect unless I go around drawing Treachery at the Captain's Cabin or anything. I wonder now whether I should have just taken the random discards on that last crisis even if it risked losing my grip on that motive, as it wouldn't have been any use without completing either of the other two as well. Ah well.

I was actually really hopeful at sleeper - it was obvious that the Cylons were more likely to win and I thought that I would probably be able to control morale. Alas.

[ChannelDelibird]

Especially since I'm convinced Hot Dog is pretty disappointing. Yay piloting cards. Maybe if I had been piloting it would have been a little better.

I think the last sentence there is spot-on. I've really enjoyed playing Hot Dog recently but, if he's not able to actually use the cool piloting shit that he constantly draws, he loses a lot of his shine. When Starbuck, who demands to be the go-to pilot out in space, is your fellow pilot, it's not ideal. He works better alongside Boomer, Anders or Pilot Helo.

[ChannelDelibird]

I don't think that there's anything that I'd ask from you to do things differently, Sudo. As STD says, it just requires players to be checking in frequently (BGG's forums usually ask for once or twice a day) even when it's not their turn. COs are important as well, triply so if people don't check in as frequently. Neither of those things are something that you can really force through on players beyond a mountain of prods (which themselves may not necessarily be seen, despite representing frequent and tiring work for you). On MS, there aren't a lot of potential replacements for a BSG game so you can't afford to be strict in saying 'you didn't check in, so you're outta here'. The burden is really on the players to be invested. If I were to run a game, I don't know that I'd do it unless I knew for sure that the players who wanted in would do that.

[ChannelDelibird]

CDB, our known cylon, confirms himself to be a user of mafSilver.
Porochaz also claims to use mafSilver.
Therefore, Porochaz is a filthy toaster.

*sagely nod*

mafSilver is Cylon skin confirmed