Battlestar Galactica- Cylons Win!

[Sky_Paladin]

Hi everybody, thanks to Sudo_Nym for letting me join. It's my first time around - I've read the rules and this game so I'll do my best.

For the current crisis, I put in 2 cards: Low, and low.

[Sky_Paladin]

I discard 'Red Tape' and 'Personal Vices'.

[Sky_Paladin]

May I ask why you are drawing from the Treachery deck?

[Sky_Paladin]

Unless somebody else is willing to hop on to the Pegasus and start shooting things down, I need CDB on that wall. I mean ship. You know what I mean.

I'm just checking with Sudo the finer details of what can be done.

By the way, it seems like players are suffering from a staggering lack of non-specific cards. Perhaps one of the pilots would like to go over to the Demetrius and start shuffling through the captain's cabin. Alternatively, I could do this. I believe I can still draw Quorum cards while not on Colonial 1, just less of them. I don't have access to an image of the President Title so I don't know exactly what can be done.

[Sky_Paladin]

I can make this check 'interesting' but not necessarily push it through. I'll do something to make it clearer for all, however.

[Sky_Paladin]

You said this before, but when CDB infiltrated, you didn't put him in the brig. I'd rather we use our XO's on proactive actions, such as acquiring more cards or improving our situation, than dealing with the consequences of poor planning.

That said, if CDB had drawn Engineering instead of Treachery, perhaps he would have had the cards to avoid this situation. Perhaps this is something like that 'stream' business he's been going on about.

Regardless my hand is stuffed full to the max and I wouldn't mind using a card or two.

[Sky_Paladin]

I am considering playing an interrupt. It won't contribute to the check in any way, but it will allow anybody who wants to contribute to have a better understanding of where they are.

Whether or not I contribute my 'interesting' option will have to wait until the right time.

[Sky_Paladin]

Well if you put it that way...pass on interrupts.

[Sky_Paladin]

0 cards.[/0]

[Sky_Paladin]

Of course.

[Sky_Paladin]

Probably depression from being abandoned. Oh well.

Hey so I was serious about putting somebody over on the Demetrius to start handing out bonus cards and I would like to have a discussion on who it should be. I have a truck full of Quorum cards and don't mind doing it. The alternative is for me to shuffle through the entire deck and play +resource cards whenever I get them - if anybody has an alternate suggestion, I'm all ears. We want to play some Demetrius missions and those mostly rely on Tactics, and if you want XO's for bonus turns, those come from Leadership.

Secondarily the Cylon main fleet is just about to appear so it would be great if we had some more vipers in the air (eg more than none) or somebody in the Pegasus to start shooting things, seeing as we elected to not have CDB do it for a turn. We are still quite a ways from our next jump so we're going to have to do some serious fighting in the coming turn.

[Sky_Paladin]

I apologise if this is super obvious but other zones we should pay attention to:

Command - Action: Activate unmanned Vipers 2 times. These can be used on the same viper twice, or on two different vipers. Activated Vipers can be ordered to launch, move, or fire on a Cylon vessel. Viper Mk. VIIs, upon movement, can move up to two zones instead of just one. With the Cylon Fleet module, Vipers may also escort civilian ships to safety.

We can use this to quickly fill the air with vipers and get civilian ships out/screen our Piloted vipers. Also if we have any assault raptors they can FTL so when we do warp, we don't need to waste turns relaunching them. We'll need Engineering cards to promote vipers to assault raptors.

Pegasus Engine Room:

Engine Room - Action: Discard 2 Skill Cards to treat the next Crisis Card drawn this turn as if it had a "prepare for jump" icon.

We can use this to try to get ahead of the incoming Cylon fleet and speed up our progress. When we're not moving forward, we're resolving crisises that ultimately tax our resources.

[Sky_Paladin]

It seems like STD is also in Sickbay (am I mistaken?). Whether or not there is a theoretical XO, it might be better employed getting STD out, since his turn will be before CDB and that may give us an extra chance to chain an XO.

[Sky_Paladin]

I don't have a clear idea who the cylon may be. Im also not a fan of shooting purely to use your shot; we have a brig and a perfectly serviceable execution airlock to use if it becomes necessary.

However, if you can point out to me the checks you think have been blown and make a case ala mafia style, my opinion could be changed.

[Sky_Paladin]

Also with morale hovering so low Id rather we didn't have any executions right now. If you sure, pop'em in the brig.

[Sky_Paladin]

I presume my predecessor was searching for +Morale quorum cards.

However if you do shoot me, all the quorum cards will be destroyed. At the very least you should brig me, have somebody admin the title to somebody else, and then decide what to do. Your new president can then review my current quorum cards, and immediately determine that if a cylon was holding them, it was already game over.

But let's be honest here. You are the cylon, right? I knew it when we saw in that last check all those engineering cards and no comment from you about low/mid/high, plus earlier in the game when you spent a turn researching in the lab when going to the Demetrius was more efficient. Bullying players in to letting a check fail that we could easily have passed with no real loss in efficiency was the icing on the cake. Sadly, if my predecessor had afk'd out just a fraction earlier, I could have done something about you :/ I didn't want to say anything before because I thought, if you were a cylon, you'd definitely shoot me and then reveal this turn. 18 cards is too sweet a target to ignore.

So you might as well take your shot and reveal, because I don't think anybody is going to let you live after this turn. At least I'll be able to respawn as a tactics/leadership character more suited to the current situation than my current one.

[Sky_Paladin]

I'm already looking for my new character

[Sky_Paladin]

Removed

[Sky_Paladin]

Removed

I feel that it's against the spirit of the game to discuss what character I'm picking/Lambda alignment at this time.

[Sky_Paladin]

I mean that because my loyalty right now is *confirmed town* I shouldn't be talking tactics since it can be 100% trusted. If we were sitting around the table playing the game, we wouldn't allow it.

Once I have a character/loyalties its game on, and there's nothing to stop the other players from having their own discussions/suggesting character picks. I can't offer anything though. Sudo can countermand that of course.

[Sky_Paladin]

Page 12 of the Pegasus rulebook states:

If the Admiral of President is executed, the title will change hands

after

the new character is selected. See the "Revised Line of Succession" section on page 8 for details.

Page 8 states:

Should the President or the Admiral be executed (see page 12), the highest player in the line of succession (including the new character replacing the executed character, if any) for that title claims that title.

If a new character is chosen after an execution that is higher on the line of succession than the current President or Admiral, the new character does not automatically gain that title.

The meaning is that a new character replacing in after an execution can only claim the President or Admiral title if the President or Admiral were executed, and if the new character replacing in is currently highest on the succession, then they will claim that title. If a character (not the Admiral or President) was executed, and their replacement is higher on the succession than the existing Pres/Admiral, they don't take the title.

If there are other expansions that change this rule, I'm unaware of it - please share with the class!

[Sky_Paladin]

What a fascinating card you just discarded. I suppose you don't need it on the Cylon basestar though.

[Sky_Paladin]

Apologies, I mistook things JGDA said for things you said.

So I'll rephrase.

You've just caused more harm to the team in a single turn than the cylon player managed to do throughout the whole game combined. And then you discarded an XO, that is sorely needed.

How could you possibly be human.

[Sky_Paladin]

I have no cards so cannot contribute to interrupts or the check. If we pass and LLD self-brigs herself that would be very considerate of her, although I expect to see her Brig JGDA, then flip her loyalty card and brig the only other character not in sickbay/brig, which is to say me, to the brig.

As it happens I have plenty of things I can do in the brig, so I think this is a check we do want to pass, mainly to avoid the morale hit.

Theoretically though;

@Sudo

- the card states 'may choose a character'. Does this mean LLD could theoretically NOT select a character?

LLD, we are playing on mafia scum. Appeal to emotion might work elsewhere, but here we are well used to ignoring it. You just murdered me. I'm allowed to ask you to explain why you did it.

[Sky_Paladin]

It's posting like this that got your ass shot in the first place, so don't go there.

I knew you were going to shoot me the moment Porochaz said I was talking too much ^_~ How terrible of me to suggest ways we can optimize our characters and get to Earth safely. Sadly, unlike mafia, dead players can keep talking, so you'll have to face the music.

On the upside, my new character is more suited to our current situation, so it's not all bad.

[Sky_Paladin]

Bump. LLD I can see you posting elsewhere. Don't forget about us ;___;

[Sky_Paladin]

Probably a great idea. I'd suggest grabbing leadership cards from the Demetrius so we can spam XOs on everybody. Effectively gives us twice as many turns with half as many crisises to resolve.

Cards in the crisis check basically confirm what we all knew. I can probably brig LLD on my turn and we can figure out who will kick her out the airlock once she's secure.

[Sky_Paladin]

Farewell our precious enchiladas. Your sacrifice will be remembered always. (-1 food)

[Sky_Paladin]

Hmm.

I'm having a tough time seeing if there's any action better than brigging LLD. I'm open to alternate suggestions, otherwise I'll probably have to do that.

In future turns, if players want to XO me, my contribution will be mainly to burn through quorum cards and play resource cards. Once that's done, I'd probably go to Command and help JDGA by activating vipers. I could also go and help on the Demetrius - we're about to jump, and we're going to miss our Mission window if that happens. Somebody needs to activate a mission.

Speaking of jumps, hopefully we'll jump *just after* the Cylon fleet appears, because if we jump *just before* we're going to have to fight our way out.

If I get any XO's, I'm probably going to use them on STD since we'll get 2 cards each, which is a pretty good return on investment of one card. I also urge players to use XO's if they've got them, since it's almost always better to give another player two actions than it is to take one yourself.

Thoughts?

[Sky_Paladin]

Let's not worry about the implementation details at the moment.

I'm mainly interested in what course of action is best, and then I'll make it happen somehow.

[Sky_Paladin]

*crickets crickets*

Very well, let's do this.

Callandra Tyrol, for the murder for the President and under the suspicion that you are a Cylon, you are hereby sentenced to the brig. Should you attempt to break out, you will instead be sentenced to the airlock.

The duration of your stay may be dependent on your actions. Should you be vindicated in some way, such as the discovery of another Cylon elsewhere amongst us, or undoubtedly human acts of service, you will be freed.

Take her away.

Action: (Quorum Card)

Arrest Order on LLD.

For my flex draw, I'll take one

Tactics

and one

Leadership

. Thank you.

Reminder for the upcoming crisis: the drawback for my character is that I must choose the first option.

[Sky_Paladin]

Fuel is still waaaay better than Morale, so this is an easy pick.

I'll take -1 Fuel and 2 Quorum cards, please.

Also, I realise I forgot to move. If a move is still possible, please send me to the Quorum room on Colonial 1.

[Sky_Paladin]

CDB - I tried, but my hands were tied. And then I was shot in the head so I guess I learned my lesson.

OTOH I think you are in a position to do some good over there so Godspeed, hope to see you back in the Galactica sometime. We'll be sending Cally over soon enough for you to play with, too.

[Sky_Paladin]

I see.

We only have three operational human players at the moment (and in theory only three actual human players). With JGDA as our only pilot, STD spreading the love on the Demetrius, I may need to do something more useful than quaff quorum cards.

Let's see what the situation looks like at my turn - I will probably XO somebody if I can; otherwise I'll head to the Pegasus and start shooting things.
Given we have many civvies and raiders in play, I think XO's on JGDA are a higher priority than STD at this stage.

[Sky_Paladin]

I would like this to pass. Alas, no strat plan from me.

[Sky_Paladin]

Please chime in on a plan if you are going to use/not use, or pm the mod if you want to be all private like. There's no need to drag out a check like this unnecessarily.
I should add that this is a check we critically need to pass, both for the resource and to avoid the drawback, so if you have a strat plan, please cough it up.

[Sky_Paladin]

Ahaha well if we need to boot you out the airlock at least you'll have a viper wrapped around you.

I'm not sure the best course of action. STD clearly wants us to finish off the crippled Basestar, I'd like us to launch a mission before we jump, but I don't think we have enough of the required cards to do it. We have one civvie ship with raiders sitting on it. If you have an XO, consider using it on somebody. Otherwise Tactical Plot/Captain's Cabin is the way to go. Apparently we're short on Tactics, because I can't believe anybody would have held back a strat plan just then if they had one.

[Sky_Paladin]

STD = CDB. All these acronyms. Life was simpler before the Internet.

[Sky_Paladin]

Pass on interrupts.

[Sky_Paladin]

Actually screw that. This check is too important to blow.

I'll play an

Investagative Committee - 4

.

[Sky_Paladin]

I'm happy with her not moving from the brig for the present time.

[Sky_Paladin]

Sadly my main contribution was making the contributions public.
I will contribute:

1 - Consolidate Power
1 - Consolidate Power

3 - Unorthodox Plan
2 - Launch Scout

I hope Hot Dog has a heap of spare piloting cards to throw in.

[Sky_Paladin]

We are, by my calculation, at a total of 4 (with 7 from me, and -3 from Prozac) out of 22. With LLD's Iron Will in play, we need to score 18 to avoid the penalty. We don't need to play for the success option.

You probably wish to damage a viper to remove Prozac's card, but there may be something worse in Destiny. Hopefully there won't be.

If you don't mind burning as many cards as you've got to make sure this goes through, I'll make it worth your time in my turn.

By the way, Food (5) and Fuel (6) are now becoming quite critical also. We probably do not have enough resources to complete the trip. There are +resource quorum cards (and +morale politics cards) but mainly these require strat plans to be viable. The quorum cards are a finite resource, however.

There's a Leadership card called "Major Victory" that gives +1 Morale if you personally destroy a Basestar or a Centurion raiding party. If a player happens to get this, they probably should go over to the Pegasus and finish off the Basestar.

[Sky_Paladin]

While it's true that LLD could contribute more to checks if she wasn't in the brig, we put her in the brig because we think she's a cylon.

If you don't think she's a cylon, who do you think would be?

LLD - thoughts?

[Sky_Paladin]

Who would you like to talk to, then? Porochaz?

It seems to me that if you were interested in getting this Battlestar to Earth, you'd at least be remotely cooperative.

[Sky_Paladin]

[You only win if you minimize your interaction with Sky as much as possible.]

This strikes me as a cylon wincon. If you want my next action to be "Put a bullet through LLD's eyes", keep up the good work. You're not the only one with a gun.

[Sky_Paladin]

Oh right, of course. That's what you want me to do.

I have no problems with you being unhelpful and antagonistic because I'm certain you're a cylon, and that's your deal. I'd really rather not deal with three cylons on the basestar bridge right now, thank you. Please enjoy your time in the slammer.

[Sky_Paladin]

Nah. I have more important things to do.

[Sky_Paladin]

*drags metal cup back and forth across bars*

So anyway, what's your problem with me?

[Sky_Paladin]

Ok folks, please listen up for just a moment.

We're going to need to talk to each other to get through this.

Things are looking a bit better recently, and I'd like to see more of other people bringing ideas to the table of what we should do. Go have a look at the skill cards if you haven't already, so you know what color you need, and more importantly, what other colors can do for you. Go look at the ship locations in the first post and get some ideas.

At the moment, we have JGDA, STD and myself. We can't rely on LLD even if we let her out of the brig. We also can't rely on CDB since he might change alignment at any given moment, but I'd rather have him at least pretending to be on our side and contributing to checks, manning stations on the ship, than over on the Cylon side pressing buttons that make our lives more difficult. He wants us to shoot raiders and basestars - that's an objective I can get behind.

We are probably going to jump very soon, maybe in the next skill check. When that happens, the Cylon's are going to want to warp in as soon as possible. Fortunately, God does have a plan, and that plan involves pilots - and both JGDA and STD are pilots. Good for us, bad for the toasters. I'd like to have both Hot Dog and JGDA in the air when bad things go down. That will probably right after we jump.

We are, however, running low on vipers. To repair vipers, or upgrade/build raptors to assault raptors, we need engineering cards. One of these cards can also repair damaged ship locations. Right now, the main concern is the damage to the Pegasus, however if the enemy fleet catches up, we can expect many more busted vipers and damage to our ships. We need engineering cards to fix this.

Trouble is, engineering is our weak point. I'm unable to draw engineering unless I play a quorum card, and you each get one per turn (perhaps). The cards we need to get bonus moves are in tactics, and leadership. If a player XO's STD, he can give everybody two cards of any set. This can largely offset our disadvantage. I will, therefore, probably use any XO I get on STD.

Finally, everything I said about resources before still stands. If we keep getting fed cards from STD, then we can avoid losing more resources. That will buy us more time to get further ahead. I can use quorum cards to regenerate resources, however they are 6+ and need strat plans to be viable. Additionally, STD can't feed us cards if he's in a viper. I'll probably move to the Demetrius if he has to move away to take over for this critical role.

We need everybody's ideas on what we can do as a group to maximise the efficiency of our team. I'm prepared to take sub-optimal turns for myself to benefit the group as a whole. Just now, we saw STD skip his turn to allow JGDA to take another turn, to help prevent us from losing even more resources. That's the kind of team spirit that we need to get through this.

What I think is the best way is not the only way and probably not the optimal way. Please speak up. If you have an idea, let's hear it.

[Sky_Paladin]

I think........probably stick with leadership. Those cards are more suited to a player who has to take a lot of focused actions. Engineering cards are more support-type players in nature, which is basically my character.

I'll try to fix up busted vipers and ships, and juggle priorities on the Galactica. Leaving you free to do whatever you please.

I can draw engineering cards when I play a quorum card, and there are politics cards that allow me to draw cards also. However, I'll favor XO'ing other players so that we can prevent taking damage in the first place.

[Sky_Paladin]

I found this helpful quiz to identify Cylons with.
Are YOU a Cylon?

I got 77% "You are not a Cylon". I guess I didn't nuke Caprica enough to count :C

[Sky_Paladin]

Huh.

Select 'discard 3 + 3' cards

.

[Sky_Paladin]

I appreciate your effort, but the best Cylon award is still going to LLD. I think you should have played your super crisis last turn.

[Sky_Paladin]

...

Why don't you have a super crisis. You went to the resurrection ship, right?

[Sky_Paladin]

Hey now, aren't YOU telling ME what to do?

[Sky_Paladin]

When people speak, I listen. I expect the reverse to be true. Sometimes we don't like the message that we hear. So it goes. A basic tenet of communication is that both parties can speak their mind.

I categorically don't understand why you're so angry with me, and I'm happy to talk it out.

'if it were a real game,'

This is a real game, and there are real people here. If we were around a board game, I would have served you up a scotch and soda or whatever you drink, sat down with my buddies and go "hey now, take it easy. Something's got your goat." We'd put aside the skill cards and the dice or whatever and chat. Sadly, we can't do that here, but I hope the sentiment gets across.

[Sky_Paladin]

Up until 862 I had no idea you were genuinely upset. I thought you were just being a cylon deliberately trying to provoke/distract town. After all, it already worked once - I brigged you when I totally could have drawn another quorum card at the same time for free, and forgot. I reflected carefully on how I could make such a careless mistake in between turns.

Thereafter, I also considered that our assumption that you were a cylon was not necessarily proved. It was possible another player was - in fact, right up until you asked if it was time to shoot somebody, I thought it was JDGA. So, post brig, I poked you and observed to see what happened, because you were

not

behaving in a way that I thought town would.

I wanted to be sure we had a cylon in the brig.

If I was in your position, I would do something like:
Protest my innocence
Try to find the real cylon (after all, if you're town, then you're the only one who knows the cylon isn't contained)
Try to contribute in some other way e.g. suggest tactics/strategy
Try to contribute in some other way e.g. suggest players take actions that you can assist with
Try to contribute in some other way e.g. XO other players, since they can effectively take a full turn for me instead of my single-action turn.
Not play cards that have a high risk of backfiring (Mutiny card).

***

So the purpose of my gentle barbs was to try to get some genuine towny response out of you. Instead we've only got rage. The closest thing I've got to a public reason for your anger was in 862 when you seemed upset that I was 'telling people what to do'. However, you seem to have forgotten that at the start of the game you were very helpful and chatty, and frequently asking for opinions. After the sleeper phase, you started being less talkative, except to outright threaten to shoot me if I helped on CDB's check. That was, in fact, our first interaction, and you shot me anyway. It's a very different Cally that we've seen, and it seems quite unfair for you to call me out for 'telling people what to do' when this has been your MO ever since I joined the game.

That big change in character, the decision to shoot me when there better alternative options, and the continued attitude has reinforced my opinion that you are a cylon and I have to leave you in the brig.

I'd rather not execute you in case you are town - we can't afford the morale loss, plus, if you are a final five, we also can't afford losing the cards.

If you are town, then I implore you to start acting like it.

You are the only one who knows if we brigged a cylon

. Many of my posts, while humorous, also were intended to provoke a towny response that I have not seen forthcoming.

So, now you know. I won't remind you again.

[Sky_Paladin]

CDB? I hear you're interested in getting the human fleet a little further in space.

We have a position going in our Engine Room right now. If you're interested, hop on along to the Galactica and you can personally ensure your mission goals come to fruition!

Before your sudden and inevitable betrayal, of course ;___;

[Sky_Paladin]

What exactly would you like us to do?

[Sky_Paladin]

The over bearing issue for me (and the Galactica imo) is the current resource problem.

To resolve this I will try to XO STD whenever I can, and ask him to fish for Tactics cards on the Demetrius. I'm specifically looking for Strat Plans or Critical Situation, although as we get closer to the jump I may also try to view the destination deck.

If I can get a strat plan, or a reassurance that one is available somehow, I'd like to play some of the resource quorum cards that I may have available.

I will also need to divert some time to dig through the quorum deck to fish out said resource cards. Using a quorum card also coughs up two engineering cards, which I can use to fix up busted parts of spaceships and vipers.

The Cylon fleet is about to warp in. STD will probably have to hop in a viper and help JDGA fight them off. This will cripple my ability to draw bonus cards; I'll probably have to go to the Demetrius myself and shuffle through the captains logbook.

I'd like to have CDB on the Galactica so he can help out on the crisis checks, and the increased jump prep from having you in the engine room helps both of us. I don't actually know what you can do on the Cylon basestar, I just feel that if you want to have the power to manipulate your own fate, now's your chance.

I'd like to help you but I don't know what you want and I don't think we even have the manpower to do it.

[Sky_Paladin]

I will XO STD.
STD, please send us tactics cards! My kingdom for a strat plan!

[Sky_Paladin]

In space, nobody can hear you scream :C

[Sky_Paladin]

Sky_Paladin wants to draw SPs for crises

I want to draw strat plans for

morale

.

[Sky_Paladin]

I'm going to need some help on this check. If I lose my hand it's quite disastrous. We've already had JDGA have her hand tanked; so it's basically you and me, I think. Plus whatever Destiny has.

[Sky_Paladin]

Many thanks, CDB. Hopefully we can still make it. And I hope to be able to repay the favor sometime soon.

[Sky_Paladin]

I guess this is LLD's polite way of not-contributing anything.

[Sky_Paladin]

Rightyo. I'm gonna lose all my cards if we don't pass so I'll throw in pretty much everything I've got via pm.

[Sky_Paladin]

Hmm, well, there's the strat plan I was looking for :/

I can't do anything about the check as it now stands. Destiny really punched us in the gut on this one.

[Sky_Paladin]

I basically just threw away 3/4 of my hand to lose the rest of my hand. So it goes. If somebody can play to save the resource loss, please do so, otherwise save your cards for something more important.

I'm sorry, CDB. I thought we would get through this one.

[Sky_Paladin]

Oh man,

the enemy fleet is here

and wow that's a lot of ships. We may have to go for an early jump on this one - with a busted hangar bay, we can't put extra ships out there to help JDGA.

[Sky_Paladin]

Or we could take shots from the Pegasus/Galactica, now that I think about it. I think CDB needs us to nail a Basestar. There's one without a civvy - might be a good time for a nuke.

Welp, guess we'll see what tricks CDB has up his sleeve, and work out what to do from there.

[Sky_Paladin]

By a happy coincidence, Scout For Fuel is a Tactics card.

[Sky_Paladin]

I would like 2x tactics, yes. If anybody else has a suggestion (or your own requirements of course) please go ahead.

[Sky_Paladin]

All is well. RL > games. Take care, and we hope everything sorts itself out for you.

But hey, out of state, eh? I hope you're off to something fancy~

[Sky_Paladin]

Might need to give LLD a friendly reminder to check the thread. I'd do it but I don't want to risk provoking her to just quit.

[Sky_Paladin]

I don't know the best course of action since there's a lot of stuff to do.
If we're going to fight the Cylon fleet here and now, then actions to repair and use the Pegasus are in order OR fix the hangar bay and have STD enter the fray also.
If we're going to make a run for it, go for the engine room and the next one of us who can (probably me) can flip the FTL - we have population to spare if the roll goes bad.

You can probably assume that if I were a Cylon I would have executed JDGA when I was given the choice on her turn, since it was my turn next, and I could (almost certainly) have executed LLD as my action for the double morale loss and Cylon win. LLD's decision to XO you was an unexpectedly benevolent move, so reviewing if we really have the last Cylon in the brig is a sensible conversation.

Between you and JDGA, I'm more inclined to be suspicious of JDGA since in theory if we had a non-Cylon Admiral, fuel should never be an issue. As long as she's outside shooting Cylons dead, though, I don't have a problem. JDGA was also my pick for Cylon before I had a sudden case of bullet in the back of my head syndrome.

[Sky_Paladin]

JDGA and I both have tanked hands from our previous turn, so it's you and CDB versus Porochaz and destiny. If JDGA or LLD are cylon, they can make it even more difficult. If the check fails, we lose.

If you decide to roll for it, please wait to see if anybody picked up a strat plan in that last +tactics wave before making your roll.

[Sky_Paladin]

The morale loss will hurt badly but getting LLD as a player that we can count on probably makes up for it.

As long as she's not final five I think we come out ahead.

[Sky_Paladin]

I'm away from my PC so I can't check the rules - are players other than JDGA able to apply cards to try and stop the airlock check? I'd rather keep LLD alive if possible.

[Sky_Paladin]

I see.

Then we need to throw everything we have at saving LLD from the airlock, because I bet JDGA has the 'Damage Morale' Cylon flip up her sleeve. And that will be game over.

[Sky_Paladin]

My hand is entirely useless for this check. STD, LLD, CDB, it's all on you. Good luck.

[Sky_Paladin]

I'll just leave this here.

If you (LLD) really thought JDGA was a cylon, you should have said or done something. I would much rather have had an earlier flip of JDGA so that we could have had you free and contributing to the mission instead of flailing uselessly and having a pity party of one in the brig. Heck, I had mentioned way back that I had second thoughts, and even STD was apparently thinking the same thing. The moment you actually did something that might have come from a town player (XO on STD), the conversation started that provoked JDGA's flip. If you'd been cooperative sooner, who knows.

The President has two jobs - contain suspected Cylon players, and minimise resource loss. Jelly was burning through quorum cards to try to find the +morale ones. I think LLD had decided to shoot me after Jelly's turn (where I subbed in) regardless of what was said/done because she maybe wasn't aware what was in the quorum deck. She failed to explain what was so scummy about what I had done either before or after the fact. Still, mis-vigs happen and in a game like this, or mafia, it's easy to make less-than-optimal decisions.

Morale being terrible is the reason I didn't go on my gut and execute JDGA when I had the chance. I've read that, in theory, if the President is human, morale should not be an issue. Losing my entire hand twice made things harder than it should have been, yet by the time I joined the game morale was already quite critical.

I see JDGA somehow has 17 cards so I think that's probably gg. Well played, toasters. The thing I regret most of all is the sacrifice of all those enchiladas was in vain :C

[Sky_Paladin]

Oh, I so wanted it to be canon. But then I remembered what happens to Tory so I was like...hmm...maybe not...

[Sky_Paladin]

I've got nothing available to help fail this check :C

Pass

[Sky_Paladin]

Well done, Hot Dog, CDB. That was nothing short of heroic.

[Sky_Paladin]

I'm guessing JDGA wants to try for another turn of mayhem; with the Admiral's Quarters out we can't brig her. We could punt her out the airlock though.

Edit: *OR* she's hoping that by staying on board to cause another crisis, there's a chance at tanking another morale point.

[Sky_Paladin]

I'll throw away all my skill cards. That makes three times, now!

[Sky_Paladin]

Be alert, fuel is now just as critical as morale. We need to get the Admiral title switched away before we jump.

[Sky_Paladin]

Might I suggest cards that can help get you out of the brig. Or more +tactics because I'm still desperate for a strat plan.

[Sky_Paladin]

You should totally infiltrate, Porochaz. Come enjoy the finer sides of human culture. Go over to the Demetrius, hand out some treachery cards. Maybe even to go admin and make yourself President. What fun awaits you!

[Sky_Paladin]

I'm basically afk for the next 20 or so hours and I have a lot to discuss :/
Apologies but please wait a little longer.

[Sky_Paladin]

Orrrr I could get time now. Great!

So with the FTL busted we can't emergency jump out of here. With you two in the brig, fighting isn't viable either. So we need to get the FTL up so we can flip the switch...AFTER we've gotten the admiralty away from JDGA.
We also need to use some scout for fuel/destinations so that we don't hyper ourselves to death.

LLD is our best chance at repairing stuff since she's had a couple of turns to build up her hand. We need to act before JDGA gets a chance to airlock one of you, which means she needs to be off the ship or in sick bay.

So ideas to get you thinking. You know what's in your hand so please propose alternate/better ideas.
1 - I go to Pegasus, kick JDGA out the airlock. Probably will have to burn all my cards which will render me useless. LLD and STD probably can't debrig themselves (but I may be wrong) so they can use any Ability in their hands, likely a Scout or XO.
Results in me being admiral which is less than optimal because I can't do admiral and president stuff in the same turn.
2 - if I had an XO, I could use it on LLD. Her first action is break out and we help her get free. She gets a free move to the FTL and uses her second action to repair it. When her turn comes around after that, she goes to the Pegasus and airlocks JDGA and becomes admiral.
In STDs turn, if he has an xo and we can jump, XO either LLD or myself and we hit the button. Otherwise, try and break out.

NB even in the best case scenario, cylons are probably gonna get another round of shooting on us. If FTL gets broken again, people are in sick bay and we are in real trouble.

The alternative is to try and fight our way out but I'm not sure how we can even go about that without first getting rid of JDGA.

Floor is yours folks. Ideas please.

[Sky_Paladin]

Ok. I'll wait for LLD's thoughts before doing anything (and CDB if he has any plans).

[Sky_Paladin]

Sadly you can presume any quick fix cards in the quorum hand were vetted out when JDGA got to audit my hand in the previous turn.

Leaves me with

play Executive Order on LLD

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[Sky_Paladin]

Pass.

[Sky_Paladin]

Ill play 2, medium high-ish.

[Sky_Paladin]

I will be returning to Australia and afk for several days as I have no Internet access while travelling. I don't know the exact time of disconnect and reconnect but it will likely be disconnected in around 20 hours from now.
I may be able to find wifi spots en route but don't count on it, Aussie ISPs are notoriously stingy.

[Sky_Paladin]

Please discuss: is this a check we want to pass or not?

Pro: we can save our cards for more game critical checks.
Con: the FTL got repaired. Raiders have been activated and that's a lot of guns out there.
If FTL takes another hit, LLD is in sickbay and we're in real trouble.

I'm going to be offline for around 72 hours starting five hours from now.

[Sky_Paladin]

While brigged you can only contribute one card. We might have to let this one go, then.

[Sky_Paladin]

Do you have a recommendation on the order? I'm in a hotel and quite drunk ahead of my departure in a few hours.

[Sky_Paladin]

Great, thanks for the advice. I was under the mistaken impression they could move and then fire.

I'm about to get on my plane and afk for the next few days. I will message Sudo with some things and see you on the other side of my jump o/

[Sky_Paladin]

Oh ah err hmm. What do you want us to do with this, LLD?

[Sky_Paladin]

Can I get an updated hand, please?

I can invest some cards but my hand is nearly empty and I'd rather use them in the upcoming "kick JDGA out the airlock" check. Gimme something to work with here. Did you put in low, mid or high?

[Sky_Paladin]

We can't damage Pegasus in case the airlock gets hit. JDGA might go to sickbay, but she still controls the jump destination - and the nuke.

As it happens I'm unable to assist this check in any meaningful way, so ill have to pass. Sorry to waste time.

[Sky_Paladin]

I'll pencil in:
Activate rear, activate front, activate group of 3, activate group of 4.
And take the hit on the Galactica.
I'm away still. If 2 out of LLD/STD/CDB are okay with that, lets go with it.

[Sky_Paladin]

Could you please explain to me why Pegasus eating the hit is better?

[Sky_Paladin]

I'd love it if some of the human aligned players chimed in.
Basically my thought is if we jump while JDGA is admiral, we lose. We can brig her or kick her out the airlock, but with the Admiral's Quarters out, we can't currently brig her, either. I don't mind her wasting the nuke from the sickbay while we hyper out as much as the FTL getting blasted, though. We can still jump with a busted FTL after all.

My main concern is that Pegasus seems to already have taken a hit and it's in danger of being destroyed. Better it than us though.

I'll sleep on it but if there's nothing from my team mates, I'll have Pegasus take the hit.

[Sky_Paladin]

I kind of thought the Pegasus's job was shooting Starbase's. Oh well.

Take the hit on the Pegasus.

Activate in this order:
Activate rear, activate front, activate group of 3, activate group of 4.

[Sky_Paladin]

OF COURSE.

[Sky_Paladin]

The key issue is *random* skill cards. If it was just discard 4 cards I'm sure CDB wouldn't care.

I can assist with the check a little, but

pass on interrupts

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[Sky_Paladin]

CDB, the next check I want to help on is assisting STD getting out of the brig. As I will not have received cards before then, I'm only able to assist one of these checks.

If you think passing this check is more critical than assisting STD, you will have my cards. Certainly I can see a good argument for letting STD wait it out one more round - we don't get a crisis if he stays put, and we're probably going to jump no matter what. Perhaps LLD can repair Admiral Quarters and we can try to brig JDGA if STD has an XO up his sleeve.

So I guess I'm also interested in hearing from STD if he absolutely has to bust out this turn or if he can chill in the freezer for a little longer.

[Sky_Paladin]

2 mid. That emptied my hand so fingers crossed.

[Sky_Paladin]

Ah, alas, woe to us! Well gg cylons, and thanks for running the game Sudo Nym. Would /in again