Food Chain (6/13)

[GuyInFreezer]

I don't know if anyone is interested but here we go

FOOD CHAIN

REQUIRED PLAYERS: 13

Rules

Game Progression

1. Pre-Game:
   During the pre-game, the players will receive one of 13 possible animals randomly (Lion, Crocodile, Eagle, Hyena, Chameleon, Snake, Deer, Otter, Mallard, Hare, Raven, Plover, Rat).
   During this phase, the Raven must guess who is gonna win and the Chameleon must decide which animal to disguise to.
   
2. Meeting:
   This phase will last 72 hours. During this phase, everyone can talk to each other in this thread.
   
3. Moving:
   This phase will last 24 hours or when everyone decided where to move. You may move to any habitats you want to move unless it is impossible for you to visit certain places. Once you move to different habitat, you must move back to your original habitat.
   
4. Habitat Meeting:
   This phase lasts 48 hours. There will be a public announcement which players ended up in which habitats. You may only talk to players in the same habitat as you are and you may attempt to kill a player who is in the same habitat as you are.
   
5. After this phase, the round is over, and the game progresses to Meeting phase. The game ends after 4 rounds have passed and based on the victory condition and defeat condition, the winners will be announced.

Possible Actions

• Disguise:
  This action is only for Chameleon. During the pre-game, he must disguise to other animals. When other players peek at you, they will see you as the animal you disguised to.
  
• Predict:
  This action is only for Raven. During the pre-game, Raven must predict the winner of this game.
  
• Peek:
  Every animals can do it starting from the first Meeting. You will learn which animal the players you wishes to peek. Raven, Crocodile Bird, and Mouse can peek twice. You must PM me the submission.
  
• Kill:
  Every animals except Sanke can do it. During the habitat meeting, you may PM me to choose who to kill. Players in same habitat will be notified of who killed whom in the habitat. If the kill is successfully made, the result will be announced in public. The kill will fail if you target an animal who is higher in the food chain. Attacking Snake will result in the attacker's death.
  
• Skip:
  During the habitat meeting, everyone may vote to skip the phase.
  
• Whisper:
  During the Meeting, you may privately talk to each other via PM, AIM, Skype, etc. During the Habitat Meeting, you may only whisper to someone who is in the same habitat as you.

Starting Habitat

HABITAT	PREDETOR	PREY
SKY	EAGLE	MALLARD, RAVEN
RIVER	CROCODILE	OTTER, PLOVER
FOREST	-	CHAMELEON, SNAKE, HARE, RAT
FIELD	LION, HYENA	DEER

Victory Conditions/Special Condition

ANIMAL	VICTORY CONDITION	DEFEAT CONDITION	SPECIAL CONDITION	PROHIBITED HABITAT
LION	Survive	Die	Starves to death if fail to kill for one round	SKY
CROCODILE	Survive	Die	Starves to death if fail to kill for two rounds	SKY
EAGLE	Survive	Die	Starves to death if fail to kill for two rounds	-
HYENA	Lion's Defeat	Lion's Victory	Starves to death if fail to kill for three rounds	SKY
CHARMELEON	Survive	Die	When peeked, they will see you as a disguised animal	SKY
SNAKE	At least 9 animals die	Less than 9 animals die	Can't target to kill, whoever attacks you die regardless of the food chain	SKY
DEER	Survive	Die	If all of surviving DEER, HARE, OTTER, MALLARD are in the same habitat, they get a kill immune.	SKY
HARE	Survive	Die	If all of surviving DEER, HARE, OTTER, MALLARD are in the same habitat, they get a kill immune.	SKY
OTTER	Survive	Die	If all of surviving DEER, HARE, OTTER, MALLARD are in the same habitat, they get a kill immune.	SKY
MALLARD	Survive	Die	If all of surviving DEER, HARE, OTTER, MALLARD are in the same habitat, they get a kill immune.	-
RAVEN	Predicted Player Wins	Prediected Player Loses	Can peek twice.	-
PLOVER	Crocodile Wins	Crocodile Loses	Can peek twice.	-
RAT	Lion Wins	Lion Loses	Can peek twice.	SKY

Food Chain (Highest to Lowest)

1. LION
   
2. CROCODILE
   
3. EAGLE
   
4. HYENA
   
5. EVERYONE ELSE

Queue

1. Bicephalous Bob
   
2. Cheery Dog
   
3. JDGA
   
4. Mitillos
   
5. Cybele
   
6. beastcharizard

[Bicephalous Bob]

1/13

[RedCoyote]

I'd so much like to play this, but I'm out of town.

GiF, if you decide to run this again at a later date, let me know, please!

[Cheery Dog]

You can at least give the crocodile bird some sort of name.

Also was recently played in the liar game tournament.
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=91&t=59202

/Cheery Croc please.

[JDGA]

(didn't this get run just a couple of weeks ago?)
(also, "crocodile bird" sounds really confusing, maybe something like Plover would make more sense?)
/in all the same though~

[GuyInFreezer]

Ah. Didnt know that!
Also I only know the game in korean so the names were.translated from korean.

[GuyInFreezer]

(this perfectly shows how much I pay.attention to mish mash in general!)

[Cheery Dog]

Noone plays attention to frogstar except to the threads they're playing in that are located there.

[Bicephalous Bob]

I can't see the Mallard winning.

I was thinking the same thing. What incentive does the eagle have to leave the sky for the first two rounds?

[Mitillos]

@Bob: The mallard (or duck) did win in that one, though. He survived until the end.

If the eagle stays in the sky for the first two rounds, he could get royally screwed.

Scenario: The duck and raven avoid the sky for round 1. Eagle doesn't eat. On round 2, both return to the sky. Eagle eats raven. Deer, rabbit and otter get eaten by other predators. On subsequent rounds, the duck is immortal, and the eagle has already missed one meal. He is now a dead eagle flying, and can only help or hinder others. He has already lost, unless the plover is alive and the eagle can convince him to come to the sky and get eaten (which I imagine is highly unlikely). Otherwise, even if he is not killed, he has to spend at least one more round in the sky, and starve to death.

Also, I guess I could give this a try.

/in

[Mitillos]

Also, shouldn't the raven be allowed to peek, before making a prediction? The way I ran it in LGT, the sequence was disguise -> peek -> predict.

[Cybele]

/in

[Bicephalous Bob]

@Bob: The mallard (or duck) did win in that one, though. He survived until the end.

If the eagle stays in the sky for the first two rounds, he could get royally screwed.

Maybe I don't understand the rules correctly, but it seems to me that's because the eagle fucked up (or had secondary win conditions?).

As I read it, all birds have to get to the sky at least once every two rounds. The eagle has to eat once every two rounds. Other places are dangerous for the eagle, the sky isn't.

I guess all prey birds can get killed when they leave the sky, but that doesn't seem very likely.

[Mitillos]

Well, the eagle could have done things differently, sure. But either way, the mallard definitely survived. Besides, suppose that in round 1, everyone goes to their home field, except the hyena, who goes to the forest. Suppose then that the eagle eats the raven, and the {deer, otter, hare} get eaten by the other predators. Then the mallard will definitely survive. The eagle gains nothing by eating him in round 1, and after that, it's too late, because he is immortal. So, there are ways for the mallard to not die.

As for the rules, the eagle has to eat three times total. If he starves twice, he dies. This is not consecutive rounds, but total rounds. Also, not all birds have to go to the sky. The plover can avoid it throughout. So, only two prey birds go there, and the eagle definitely needs one more food than that. Finally, if the mallard becomes immortal, because its friends die, the eagle needs another non-bird food. Not only that, but if in round 3 he is not in the sky, and in round 4 there are no other birds left, and he already missed one meal, then he can't eat on round 4, since he has to go to the sky alone, so he will lose no matter what (again, unless he can somehow convince the plover to help him out).

[beastcharizard]

/in

Charizard is a chameleon kind of.

[Marquis]

/inn

[Bicephalous Bob]

This is not consecutive rounds, but total rounds.

Ah.