Nomic (025,028,030,M010,M011,032,033,S003)

[Aronis]

And I always liked pagetops too.

[Felissan]

Time to get to work...
My title shall be "Quaestor Lieutenant of the Northern Icarus Alliance".
VOTE: Nay to 003 because Im. 11 is already covering that.
VOTE: Aye to 006 for obvious reasons.
VOTE: Aye to 007, 009 and 010 because money is really important, dammit!
VOTE: Aye to 008 because third options are always good to have.
VOTE: Nay to 011 because depending on how the game plays out, 100 credits may turn out to be a trivial sum.
VOTE: Aye to 012 because it also opens up some opportunities for some fun voting shenanigans.

Hammers: 003 (Rejected), 006, 007, 008, 009, 010 (Accepted)

[JDGA]

All players have voted on Proposal 003, but it has failed to meet the vote quota. Proposal 003 is DISMISSED.
Proposals 006, 007, 008, 009, and 010 are all adopted.
006 repeals Mutable Rule 5.
007 becomes Mutable Rule 13. It cannot be applied retroactively, but the 100 credit bonus is available from 26 until the end of January 17 UTC (about 11 hours from now - feel free to overrule that if you have any better ideas)
009 becomes Mutable Rule 14.
010 becomes Mutable Rule 15.
008 becomes Mutable Rule 16, though it is presently void due to conflicts with Immutable Rule 4.

[Aronis]

Posting for my 100 credits.

[Drench]

nay to 7
nay to 8
nay to 9
nay to 10
nay to 11
nay to 12

[Drench]

Suite 001

Proposal 13:

If, at any time, no more Mutable rules may be added, and one player proposed a majority of those Mutable rules currently existing, that player shall win.

Proposal 14:

A new class of Proposal is created, the "motion", which upon passing must be executed, but is not added to the Mutable rules.

Proposal 15:

Motions do not count for the purposes of Proposal 13.

Motion 1:

The moderator shall track the source of all Proposals, so that it is easily recognizable who has proposed what, be it Immutable, Mutable, or Proposal.

[Drench]

Suite 002

Proposal 16:

A shop shall be created and maintained, by the moderator ("the Facilitator") unless otherwise mandated by another rule, from which things may be purchased using in-game currencies.

Proposal 17:

A player may, if so desired, choose to take over running the shop via application to the current Facilitator. If accepted, and in doing so, they will receive a weekly stipend of 3x (x being the daily income of all in-game currencies) OR 250 credits, whichever is the higher, in addition to any other incomes they possess. The moderator is not entitled to this stipend.

Proposal 18:

Items may be added to the shop by any player, using Proposals or Motions. The repeal of a Proposal that adds items shall remove the item from sale; the passing of a Motion overriding a previous Motion that adds items shall hence override the item on sale.

Proposal 19:

A "day" in a shop is defined as ending at midnight of the Facilitator's timezone, as defined by the Facilitator. This time must be public knowledge.

Motion 2:

An Extra Vote is added to the shop, having unlimited stock, and costing 400 credits. This item, when used, allows a player to vote twice on one proposal or motion.

Motion 3:

A Vote Nullifier is added to the shop, having unlimited stock, and costing 500 credits. This item, when used, allows a player to bar another from voting on one proposal or motion.

Motion 4:

A Silencer is added to the shop, having one stock per day, and costing 1000 credits. This item, when used, bars one player from posting (with the exception of voting) for 48 hours.

[Drench]

Motion 5: In honour of MLK Day, all players receive 1517 credits upon passage.

(get it?????? because thats when the 95 theses was posted??????????????? ohohohohoho)

[Drench]

Motion 6:

All Shop-related rules from now on shall be organized under their own section in the OP.

Proposal 20:

Mutable 6 is amended to read "At no time may there be more than 50 mutable rules.".

[JDGA]

Drench needs to choose a title.

As for proposals in suites, I'm not sure I want to continue the numbering within them. I think it might be better to use S001a, S001b, etc. Feel free to overrule if that upsets you

Annoyingly, Mutable Rule 12 seems to indicate that I have to continue the numbering in them. Yay.

Nay S001

- The wincon is the reason for this. Also I'm pretty sure I already track the source of proposals anyway?

Nay S002

- Just... no. I don't agree with

any

of this.

Nay M005

- No.

Yay M006

- Nothing wrong with that? Feels like you're trying to do my job for me though.

Yay 020

- Sure, why not.

Proposal 021:

Suites shall be given their own set of integers in a similar way to proposals but prefixed with the letter S (ie S001, S002, etc). Motions will be similar, but prefixed with the letter M (ie M001, M002, etc). Any other "types" of law will receive similar numbering rules at the discretion of the proponent of that law "type", or the moderator's discretion if they do not do so.

[Drench]

i found the communist

[Drench]

also i am 100% proposing motions separately if s1 fails just because i think motions are a good idea

[JDGA]

Seriously though, S002 I just disagree with (get hype for proposal "JDGA wins the game" at which point I throw a nullifier on everyone else - incidentally, unless you reword Mutable 3 they aren't going to work that way you're probably hoping they will), but S001 is just a bunch of riders all tied together for seemingly no reason at all. That's just obnoxious and

not

what suites ought to be used for. FTR, right now I'm going to consider Motions as under Immutable 16, so you can feel free to ignore them or whatever you like.

PEDIT: I'd be pretty happy to see S001 proposed separately.

[Drench]

also i'm trying to think of a way of like..........putting a proposal on ice and letting everyone do edits to it until a majority support it, so its less of a clusterfuck to get things up

my title is Drench

[Drench]

nay to s001

Proposal 22:

If, at any time, no more Mutable rules may be added, and one player proposed a majority of those Mutable rules currently existing, that player shall win.

Proposal 23:

A new class of Proposal is created, the "motion", which upon passing must be executed, but is not added to the Mutable rules.

Proposal 24:

Motions do not count for the purposes of Proposal 23.

Motion 7:

The moderator shall track the source of all Proposals, so that it is easily recognizable who has proposed what, be it Immutable, Mutable, or Proposal.[/area]

also you'd need like.....literally 3000 credits to do that...like good luck

[JDGA]

Would have been easier to just amend S001 to contain nothing, but whatever.

[JDGA]

Nay 022

- I don't want to have to think about who the proponent is when I decide whether or not I like the rule-change.

Yay 023

- Might as well?

Nay 024

- Referring to the wrong proposal, and kind of redundant even if it was correct.

Yay M007

- Redundant, but whatever.

[JDGA]

Also I'm hitting the character limit on the thread title. Might I suggest no more proposals for now?

[Drench]

Motion 8:

One month after the beginning of the game, a President will be elected, the moderator nominating a Returning Officer to run such an election using the instant runoff vote. The President shall be reelected every month thereafter. The President, unless mandated by Proposals, shall be a ceremonial role.

[Drench]

P24 is amended

[Drench]

aye on 12

[JDGA]

Nay 024

Fair enough, but still redundant.

[Aronis]

Nay 13, 14, 15, 17, 21, 22, 23, 24
Aye 16, 18, 19, 20

Motions votes:
Aye 1, 6, 7, 8
Nay 2, 3, 4, 5

[JDGA]

The suites are suites, you vote on them as a single unit. Unfortunately you can't pick and choose there.

[Aronis]

Change my vote to nay on everything then

Proposal 025: All proposals must be voted on separately.