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Post Post #75 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:22 am

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In post 62, Vi wrote:
In post 61, Kublai Khan wrote:Also, I really think we should have a
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Post Post #76 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:29 am

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In post 80, SleepyKrew wrote:The problem is that a lot of people (us) want to reward something that's just funny, regardless on if it was good play. A lot of people (us) also want to reward a good play. So the people (we) want two separate awards. Maybe something will win both, that's cool, but not the majority of the time.

If you want to reward funny, then there is the Funniest Poster award. I couldn't even begin to justify a "Funniest Post" category.

Look, the problem was that the "Funniest Role Claim" was a lame category with few nominations and it doesn't really reward good play. Since "Best Role Claim" was similarity a limited category, I suggested combining the two into an overall "Best Moment" category that would include all sorts of good plays, especially ones that are particularly entertaining.

If your argument against that is "Oh no! Funny posts won't get awards!" then piss off.
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Post Post #77 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:31 am

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In post 82, Kublai Khan wrote:If you want to reward funny, then there is the Funniest Poster award.


Body of Work award.
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Post Post #78 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:33 am

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In post 83, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 82, Kublai Khan wrote:If you want to reward funny, then there is the Funniest Poster award.


Body of Work award.

And...?
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Post Post #79 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:35 am

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In post 84, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 83, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 82, Kublai Khan wrote:If you want to reward funny, then there is the Funniest Poster award.


Body of Work award.

And...?


Rewarding a funny
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person.
Everyone can be funny, but that doesn't mean we're all stand up comedians.
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Post Post #80 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:36 am

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I think he's saying "Oh no! Funny posts won't get awards!"
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Post Post #81 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:37 am

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In post 85, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 84, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 83, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 82, Kublai Khan wrote:If you want to reward funny, then there is the Funniest Poster award.


Body of Work award.

And...?

Rewarding a funny
post
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person.
Everyone can be funny, but that doesn't mean we're all stand up comedians.

Okay, now your job is to explain to me why we should be rewarding stand-up comedy style single post in a mafia game.
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Post Post #82 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:39 am

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In post 87, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 85, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 84, Kublai Khan wrote:
In post 83, animorpherv1 wrote:
In post 82, Kublai Khan wrote:If you want to reward funny, then there is the Funniest Poster award.


Body of Work award.

And...?

Rewarding a funny
post
is different than rewarding a funny
person.
Everyone can be funny, but that doesn't mean we're all stand up comedians.

Okay, now your job is to explain to me why we should be rewarding stand-up comedy style single post in a mafia game.


Because that person would never get nominated for Funniest Poster ever, but said something so funny/out of context/etc that it's worth a nomination and/or scummy?
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Post Post #83 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:44 am

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Hm. I'm actually coming around to KK's award. Sort of a 'most memorable moment thing' and judge it based on that? It's really no more subjective than something like 'Most Enjoyable' which is one of the most popular categories.
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Post Post #84 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:47 am

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^ gets it.
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Post Post #85 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:48 am

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In post 88, animorpherv1 wrote:Because that person would never get nominated for Funniest Poster ever, but said something so funny/out of context/etc that it's worth a nomination and/or scummy?

Just sig it then.
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Post Post #86 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:50 am

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I really don't see what's wrong with rewarding a funny post, KK. It's not like people are going to start turning games into platforms for stand-up comedy just so they can win this scummy; I just don't think the two categories should be judged together.

I see the other side, truly I do. I just don't think that on a site of this size that we'll have an issue finding nominees for either category.
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Post Post #87 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:56 am

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In post 92, quadz08 wrote:I really don't see what's wrong with rewarding a funny post, KK. It's not like people are going to start turning games into platforms for stand-up comedy just so they can win this scummy; I just don't think the two categories should be judged together.

If we're rewarding funny posts with no game value, shouldn't we just call the award "Best Fluff Post"?

I'm not trying to be too snarky, it's just that comedy is already rewarded in the Funniest Poster category, which is wisely a Body of Work award. A memorable moment nominee should have great comedy to put it over the top, but at it's core it should be rewarding brilliant play.
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Post Post #88 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 10:58 am

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Your point is fair, and I cede the decision to the committee at this point. I have no more points to make in the argument.
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Post Post #89 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 11:02 am

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While I still think they should be two separate awards, I guess I could live with a "Most Memorable Play/Sequence". But not a "Best Play/Sequence".
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Post Post #90 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 11:05 am

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In post 95, SleepyKrew wrote:While I still think they should be two separate awards, I guess I could live with a "Most Memorable Play/Sequence". But not a "Best Play/Sequence".

Fine, that's an acceptable compromise.
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Post Post #91 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 11:51 am

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Most memorable play is easy enough to judge. A distinct best play should be more complicated.
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Post Post #92 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 11:47 pm

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I sincerely appreciate the (mostly) mature way this discussion was de-escalated and "resolved". Bravo to you gentlemen.

I like the idea of a funniest/best moment category, but I can also see the appeal of a funniest/best post, especially to people that aren't that funny usually but really try to go out of their way to be every once in a while, and if it's really that funny, it's probably deserving of being awarded like that. As far as I am aware, Hoopla's not that funny or irreverent a lot of the time, but if she would have made a play like that (fucking awesome, btw) and it would have gone un-awarded, that would have been a crying shame.

I mostly agree with the consensus that has been reached however.
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Post Post #93 (ISO) » Sat May 05, 2012 11:49 pm

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A post can be a moment... The issue of debate is strategy v funny
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Post Post #94 (ISO) » Sun May 06, 2012 12:01 am

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Both, duh. No reason not to award things that will better the community other than elitism, right?
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Post Post #95 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 1:16 am

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Posting here so I can keep up with this thread, but pretty much everything worth saying has already been said.
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Post Post #96 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 12:02 pm

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In post 83, Lost Butterfly wrote:Hm. I'm actually coming around to KK's award. Sort of a 'most memorable moment thing' and judge it based on that? It's really no more subjective than something like 'Most Enjoyable' which is one of the most popular categories.


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Post Post #97 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 12:54 pm

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In post 96, Amrun wrote:I also like handing out a Golden Fedora every year.



Ehhhhno. I feel like doing this would just lessen the "value" of getting a Golden Fedora. If someone does something to earn it, then yes, but let's not just give something out for the sake of giving it out.
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In post 97, AGar wrote:
In post 96, Amrun wrote:I also like handing out a Golden Fedora every year.
Ehhhhno. I feel like doing this would just lessen the "value" of getting a Golden Fedora. If someone does something to earn it, then yes, but let's not just give something out for the sake of giving it out.
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Post Post #99 (ISO) » Mon May 07, 2012 1:52 pm

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In post 97, AGar wrote:
In post 96, Amrun wrote:I also like handing out a Golden Fedora every year.



Ehhhhno. I feel like doing this would just lessen the "value" of getting a Golden Fedora. If someone does something to earn it, then yes, but let's not just give something out for the sake of giving it out.


Well, I don't mean if no one has earned it...
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