Micro 894: Marked for Death!! [game over]

[Osetr]

quack

VOTE: osetr

sheep my read on this slot i am an EXPERT at solving them (or I would be if I ever rolled town with them in-game)

im also an expert at solving you

so



VOTE: chemist1422

[Osetr]

on a more serious note hi lads, never played with anyone here except chem

i obvtown as town so this should be ez game

just gotta make sure i dont forgey about mafiascum existing

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i hope chem's town so we can have neverending arguments like we always do lmao

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wheres everyone else

they dead

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are me and guilty brothers in the flavor? we have the same surname

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wow is everyone here american or what

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nah i dont rant, im usually a happy guy

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what would i even rant about

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i hope chem's town so we can have neverending arguments like we always do lmao

That happens when I’m scum too

that doesn't happen when i'm scum though because i never roll scum

[Osetr]

quack

what's a miro game? is it like 4/5 of a micro game?

oh yeah, i noticed that too but forgot to say it

sadly it got fixed aww man

[Osetr]

shit right this is mafiascum not tos forums

3/4 games here i rolled mafia
nvm

[Osetr]

VOTE: Chemist1422

I know your vote was already on osetr and 30 is meant as a joke but I also think osetr has been fairly townie so I don't like it

the votes are just kinda our inside jokes cuz we come from the same community so its fine

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yeah kinda sucks, i expected at least a bit more activity

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*sigh* i guess i have to solve early
wanted to meme more but game is too dead

im thinking at least 1 maf in the more or less active lads, so [chemist lion dolittle]

[Osetr]

inclined to go for lion here in that pool, the guy said that he knows me and chem were messing around but is still pushing him which is kinda wack imo
its kinda like trying to make a good image early on but failing
VOTE: GuiltyLion

[Osetr]

holy crap

hello i am a central asian nomad, nice to meet you. i have horses

[Osetr]

VOTE: Caeser

?

[Osetr]

im wary of caesar as well but i'd like to hear your stuff first

this game is already dead enough dont make naked votes

[Osetr]

ayy people are finally coming

[Osetr]

i have horses

saved for future trolling

?

[Osetr]

holy crap

hello i am a central asian nomad, nice to meet you. i have horses

So you're pretty much Genghis Khan?

i'd prefer to be someone like Zhanibek Khan or Ablai Khan but sure, that works too

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i'd prefer to be someone like Zhanibek Khan or Ablai Khan but sure, that works too

I've always wanted to be Charlemagne, but hey, beggars can't be choosers.

i mean it's not like i'm complaining, if i'm genghis khan then me and caesar can be in civilization V together

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i mean it's not like i'm complaining, if i'm genghis khan then me and caesar can be in civilization V together

I'll be Nebuchadnezzar and rush the Great Library, cause i'm a trash human being.

real pros get a desert spawn and rush petra

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real pros get a desert spawn and rush petra

Real Pros go India and rush nukes***

Fixed that for you

dam, i've only used nukes once in my 550 hours of playing, and that was as byzantium

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teeny lean scum on george for his doing anything but scumhunting entry for 3 posts

isnt scumhunting early scummy

what was there to hunt there was barely any content

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inclined to go for lion here in that pool, the guy said that he knows me and chem were messing around but is still pushing him which is kinda wack imo

I voted him cause he's voting one of the townier slots in the game

and then he openly admitted right afterwards that I was right, his vote was for nothing game-solving related. which IMO is useless and anti-town behavior. Doesn't make him scum necessarily but better than a random vote

this is a scummier slot now:
VOTE: GeorgeBailey

what was a better vote at the time then

rvs on an afk sucks, it barely does anything. better to meme and smoothly go forward

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@George why did you vote DrDolittle here? What's wrong with his vote exactly?

Kinda agreeing with GuiltyLion for now. I'm not sure why you would vote someone and then not discuss it.

VOTE: George

lion didnt openly say that was the reason for scumreading george, potential svs

[Osetr]

Very well, Senators, that will do. Mighty Caesar bids you remain on topic, for Our time is precious, and we despise having it ill-spent.

We thank Senator Bailey for his kind words. Your fealty is accepted, and you may beg of Us a favor in the future. We also recognize that you are engaged in earnest attempts to solve our mutual problem, and grant you leave to continue.

Senator Lion is cautioned that continued frivolous hectoring of Senator Bailey will see the good Senator cast into the Colosseum wearing naught but a breechclout to face his namesake. It is Senator Ceejay, however, who earns Our Ire at this time, as We judge his motives in maligning Senator Bailey to be opportunistic and false, while Senator Lion’s are more likely merely unwise.

Caesar has spoken.

VOTE: Senator Ceejay

ngl its kinda hard to read your posts early in the morning, i'll reread this later

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tfw your vote counts as 0 FeelsBadMan

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tfw you're literally a waterfowl trying to operate forum software
fixed
~ tw

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hahaha i love the flavor

sturgeon caviar is very valuable indeed

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@George why did you vote DrDolittle here? What's wrong with his vote exactly?

Kinda agreeing with GuiltyLion for now. I'm not sure why you would vote someone and then not discuss it.

VOTE: George

lion didnt openly say that was the reason for scumreading george, potential svs

I meant I agree with his vote but I am voting him for different reasons.

I can't english well am sorry

but he never gave a reason

[Osetr]

@george dolittle seems chill so far, i think hes town
its something along the lines of TWTBW but a light version of it
hes basically not pushing an agenda and also making a lot of naked votes

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but yeah i agree that guilty is scummy, he started quote on quote "solving" way too early when it was just memeing

i dont think his reasoning are good either
he just says "hey youre town so chem is bad for voting you" which is pretty darn wack in such early game

[Osetr]

theres no agenda to push at page 3

idk i probably said it wrong
but its basically that you dont really show clear motives which is pretty townie

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george bailey literally did the hi guys tell for 3 posts consecutively, and is now omgus-ing, while still talking about flavor

he was late to the thread though, isnt it obligatory to give a heads up to peeps

omgusing i never found scummy, why does a person whos scumreading you get a pass that you cant scumread them, never really made sense to me
and even if you townread that person people are just gonna call you out for buddying and if you nullread them theyre just gonna say youre fencesitty

so yeah i usually dont see omgus as a trait

also whats wrong with talking about flavor, its epic
i talked about it recently too

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i was only ever lynched on forums once and it was my first game on mafiascum
i was a citizen and got lynched for the hi guys tell d1

so im pretty biased towards it

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Well now i'm at

L-2

I believe.

To further read into this shit storm:

how is that a shitstorm though, shitstorm is when 2 players just swear and deathtunnel each other

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If you could kindly explain further as to how my actions have been opportunistic and untrue, I would greatly appreciate it.

Well, for me atleast, it felt like you were really quick to follow Lion's lead. It's the first couple of days, and you're voting someone based off an RVS and a little introduction.

dont think he was following his lead, he was just agreeing

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teeny lean scum on george for his doing anything but scumhunting entry for 3 posts

isnt scumhunting early scummy

whoever told you this is straight up bad at mafia

meme-ing can be done by town or scum regardless of alignment whereas only town can authentically scumhunt

all players should be encouraged to start scumhunting as soon as possible so you can start flushing out who is being disingenuous

i think i read it in a guide but i cant seem to find it

dont really agree that only town can scumhunt though, it depedns on the quality of the player

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Lmao, I was just doing a bit of VFR and introduction (since I took so long).

I didn't think we'd be scumhunting already. Nobody seems like anything to me at the moment.

@ceejay

Oops, I mean RVS (not VFR)

I'll admit I'm pretty damn late on the RVS.

But I voted him mostly cause DoLittle voted Cesar with no explanation either. Didn't mean much by it.

this is another reason to suspect Bailey, he didn't get a story straight between two successive posts

did you vote DoLittle because his vote was unexplained and you thought that was scummy, or was it a purely random vote? you're trying to suggest both things simultaneously here

i have a thought on this but i'd rather hear from him first

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i dont think his reasoning are good either
he just says "hey youre town so chem is bad for voting you" which is pretty darn wack in such early game

assuming that you are in fact town, why then was my reasoning wack?

whats the point in trying to move somebody's rvs vote, theres so much time to spare

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honestly tempted to call a Caesar/Bailey solve on pg 4 for bragging rights but realistically need a bit more from Puppets/Chemist first

I don't think ceej is scummy

i also suspect caesar because he had the time to do such big posts but then dipped

[Osetr]

UNVOTE:

have Osetr as top town rn probably

honestly tempted to call a Caesar/Bailey solve on pg 4 for bragging rights but realistically need a bit more from Puppets/Chemist first

I don't think ceej is scummy

hi I'm around

Hi Chemist, I'm with you on the Osetr townread, who are your scumreads

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@George why did you vote DrDolittle here? What's wrong with his vote exactly?

Kinda agreeing with GuiltyLion for now. I'm not sure why you would vote someone and then not discuss it.

VOTE: George

lion didnt openly say that was the reason for scumreading george, potential svs

I meant I agree with his vote but I am voting him for different reasons.

I can't english well am sorry

but he never gave a reason

His reasons. Dont. Matter. To me.

I am voting him independently.

It just so happens he voted him first.

okay you can be town then

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dont really agree that only town can scumhunt though, it depedns on the quality of the player

dude scum know who scum are, they literally cannot scum hunt. some can definitely fake it really well but literally the only thing that actually separates town from scum is genuine uninformed game-solving (which hopefully/ideally leads to lynches on scum that scum don't want)

i think we're just mixing up terms
by scumhunting i meant gamesolving

do you think anybody was genuinely solving early on

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i dont think his reasoning are good either
he just says "hey youre town so chem is bad for voting you" which is pretty darn wack in such early game

assuming that you are in fact town, why then was my reasoning wack?

whats the point in trying to move somebody's rvs vote, theres so much time to spare

wasn't trying to move his vote, was just voting/pressuring him for making a bad one

idk i still think there was nothing wrong with it because it wasnt based on my towniness/scumminess, it was just joking around

[Osetr]

oi sorry, forgot about this game

i'll start being active after i come from school, so in 9 hours

[Osetr]

IT'S TIME FOR SOME ACTUAL READS BOYS

dolittle - strong town imo
his early votes were pretty townie due to trying to initiate discussion rather than to attack, and him not pushing george further after scumreading him and instead asking for his opinion is very strongly town indicative.
his town is also incredibly chill and it just seems like hes sharing thoughts which are not pre-planned or anything
i would be suprirsed if this flips scum

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chem - slight town
everything he did so far seems to make good sense and doesnt reek of any agenda, hes just doing normal chem stuff

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ceejay - slight scum
he seems to only be focusing on george and being tunnely this early in the game is in my humble opinion scummy
he had a lot of opportunities to talk about other guys, but he seems to have concentrated on 1 guy

him also not discussing with me early on in the game when he was available and when the game was kinda dead is bad too

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puppets - slight town

idk i think the post about question the caesar/bailey team was very townie due to it being both contributive but at the same time questioning which is a very good combo

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guilty - scum

i just think hes pocketing me, he keeps repeating how im a townie slot but never actually explains it beyond voting chem for meme voting me when i was ok with that vote

i still dont like the reasoning, its basically "his vote is a meme so its bad", that screams tryhard which is mafia indicative most of the time because why deny memes as town this early on

i dont think his reasoning are good either
he just says "hey youre town so chem is bad for voting you" which is pretty darn wack in such early game

assuming that you are in fact town, why then was my reasoning wack?

i also feel like this is a tmi post written to not sound like tmi

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caesar - slight scum or scum, depending on his meta

he just makes one/two big posts and yeets out

from what i've seen that's a scum trait, like even when he did the first 2 posts i quickly replied to him to keep the thread going and never got a response

it just depends whether or not he always does this

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george - i should have a read on him but it's 0:32 am and i cant bother to go read deeply into his iso, i tried but am too tired for it, expect an explanation later

comfortable with where my vote is at rn

[Osetr]

VOTE: DDL

I don't get any good vibes from him and I don't like how he alternates between semi-scumreading Caesar and sheeping him

did he really sheep caesar? i didnt see that

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i just think hes pocketing me, he keeps repeating how im a townie slot but never actually explains it beyond voting chem for meme voting me when i was ok with that vote

i still dont like the reasoning, its basically "his vote is a meme so its bad", that screams tryhard which is mafia indicative most of the time because why deny memes as town this early on

I'm not really in the business of explaining townreads unless they're being wagoned, it's a waste of effort otherwise IMO and potentially even helps scum figure out who is easiest to mislycnh

I get that you think I'm pocketing you, that's prob valid thought process on your end, but this "tryhard = mafia" idea is bunk and frankly a bit tilting. I hate RVS, I want to play the game not meme around, and this is backed by a long and extensive history of my town!meta where nearly every game I come in with as serious of a vote as I can make at that stage (unless I'm like literally first to thread). I've also moved on quite a bit since that first post/vote and yet you're still stuck on it despite my repeated efforts to engage with you and help you see my thought process.

Want to help build a wagon on Caesar? Cause I'm not liking how sticky your vote seems to be on me and I don't believe you're going to get much traction with it with the rest of the town

okay, you mentioning your meta is rly townie, you can go up

caesar is a good vote, i agree
VOTE: Caesar

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This is not aimed directly at you, but I understand your point. I still think lynching in my pool is correct

who is it aimed at then?

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whys my top townread being voted up? unvote now

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imo caesar and dolittle are TvS wagons, theyre split so evenly

my read on caesar still stands, he always does a big post which barely says anything and dips

hes a very good wagon

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should we just hammer? im comfortable with the current game state and i dont think theres much time left

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its 1 on ceejay and 4 on caesar @mod

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prodge

out of the 3 people SRing dolittle id say chem is town with the highest likeliness
second being puppets and third caesar

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@elements hey lad

explain your townreads pls

[Osetr]

I'll self vote tomorrow

DONT DO IT

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we should lynch caesar instead

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When did you express a read on us?

Your pp has a similar colour pallet to DDL. I meant him.

i read that the wrong way XD

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Ceaser is using his gimmick yada yada yada but when I read through his ISO he was scum hunting. It takes effort to wind that into a gimmick. So I think that's town.
DDL's posts are too emotive, and don't feel fake emotive, to be scum.

caesar always makes a big post and dips though instead of engaging when active

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Ceaser is using his gimmick yada yada yada but when I read through his ISO he was scum hunting. It takes effort to wind that into a gimmick. So I think that's town.
DDL's posts are too emotive, and don't feel fake emotive, to be scum.

caesar always makes a big post and dips though instead of engaging when active

so you're saying his playstyle is NAI yet you're still scum reading him for it?

no, i have no idea about his meta, i asked anout it in my reads list

but the actions themselvrs are scummy

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all i can say is

DOLITTLE

WHAT THE FUCKKKKKKKKK

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i kinda calmed down through the night phase, but this is still annoying

@guilty idk why i wasnt marked but im quite happy with it, means i can play longer

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was the caesar vote before dolittle self vote or after?

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but your vote was blank

town would at least write someting like "fine, i'll switch or something"

VOTE: Caesar this shouldve been lynched d1

NEVER self vote

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am i the only one who thinks that the above argument looks fake?

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am i the only one who thinks that the above argument looks fake?

Element's?

I mean, Elements never specifically said DDL was scum, but defended Caesar in the same post.

talking about the 2 posts above mine

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VOTE: Elements

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if it's not elements, it's puppets

REMEMBER THIS IF WE GO TO LYLO

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remember me saying elements can be scum?

yeah nevermind that, i've read pages 4 to 7 and he aint no scum

it's bailey followed by puppets

VOTE: GeorgeBailey

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Aight, well either Chemist, Puppets, or I gotta hammer here.
But I really want a response from Caesar first.
In my experience, lynching someone who doesn't interact much with the game (which is why i'm guessing most people are voting him) hasn't turned out well.

this is my entire case

if you want more, lol why, this post is enough

[Osetr]

vote george

[Osetr]

chem is very likely town btw

[Osetr]

chem is very likely town btw

why

I never play like this on ToS

why not?

[Osetr]

i was replying to "why"

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i was right on caesar lol chill man

that isn't entirely my case, i was kinda baiting but oh well

[Osetr]

calm down lad, i was just trying to reaction test

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also why are you so mad over me calling you 2nd likiest scum lol

[Osetr]

im not sring gb on just one post

it's just testing

but you getting so mad most likely makes you town

so you and chem are good to go imo

gb > elements

elements & ceejay were pushing caesar pretty darn hard, and caesar was pushing their slot a lot as well. thatd be such unnecessary bussing, it'd be pretty dumb imo

gb on the other hand was always reluctant to lynch caesar despite nullreading him

he also didnt try to save his top townread of DDL by voting caesar and isntead went on a random vanity wagon

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But seriously, do you think GB’s ISO in general is scummy, other than that one post?

yes, of course lol

i already said it was testing

[Osetr]

i dont remember why

but relying on dead townies' reads is kinda wack

well they tr'd him, so what

it's not like towns have 100% guessrate

[Osetr]

me and guilty got marked cuz we were on the caesar wagon at all times, werent we

[Osetr]

GB isnt gonna appear, just lynch him

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GB isnt gonna appear, just lynch him

why do you always make me want to scumread you when you’re clear town

cuz i can afford it :')

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yeah id say elements is TWTBW, dont think he flips scum here

[Osetr]

i wouldve been marked by any person here, no?

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honestly my wim just kinda died, i just wanna lynch

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elements not listening to my comment of saying

"when i die, dont lynch chem. i know how to read him, he's locktown"

is pretty sad

dolittle self-voting was pretty awful as well

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heh i wonder how many ways there are to misspell my nickname

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im not blaming elements though, am just a bit sad