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Post #1746 (isolation #220) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 12:44 pm
Postby Dannflor »
I feel like I kinda lost a lot of the points I was gonna bring up against january, and I just have some vague worries / paranoia now that I want to address
I'll try to recoup those and address them coherently today
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Post #1755 (isolation #222) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:07 pm
Postby Dannflor »
btw my problems with you were
well I think I had this like fever dream while I was sick that everything clicked together and I KNEW you were scum for some reason but now that I'm actually thinking about it I have nothing like that
I did feel that you coming into Psyche's slot were doing exactly what a scum!january would need to do to win the game however. Like you come in with one hard scum read on Gamma, basically just sheeping me, and then when Gamma turns out to be an IC you kinda flounder for a while and from an outside perspective it felt to me like you were panicking a little bit. The jump to challenging the Penguin town reads instead of say, Blatant Scum, who was next in line on your reads list seemed off to me, like you needed to break up the consensus town reads first instead of going for the lower hanging lynch bait in order to win. There's also the fact that you're paranoid of me at first, and then when I express suspicions of you, you completely drop that paranoia which sorta read like a desperate attempt to pocket me?
A lot of this might seem like conf biasing, and maybe it is, but I think it's important to get it all out there anyway.
Also, I kinda feel like your Banakai "town tell" is very weak and the extent to which you're defending him reads TMI.
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Post #1756 (isolation #223) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 2:08 pm
Postby Dannflor »
In post 1753, january wrote:i've wasted too much energy fighting the lynch and at this point it might just make me feel better to confidently say "I told you so" afterwards.
i do wish that banakai put more effort in so that it's not just gonna be "well he was scummy" tomorrow with no discussion bc he never tried to fight the lynch
Yeah this is pretty much how I feel
I definitely don't have the energy to fight it and Banakai's actions don't make it easy to care
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Post #1765 (isolation #225) » Tue Dec 03, 2019 4:50 pm
Postby Dannflor »
In post 1760, january wrote:will respond in a bit but does tmi stand for something other than “too much information”? i’m not what u mean by TRing someone as too much info
Meaning, I don't think your reasoning for Banakai!town is enough to justify the strength of read you seem to have on him. So that leads me to believe that maybe you have that read because you know his alignment.
In post 1786, Dannflor wrote:also like I don’t even know that I want to lynch january
I don’t know who I want to lynch at all
Sorry guys no masterplan I’m just trying to figure things out
We don’t need a masterplan
Just need you to stop killing the momentum
This is the third day in a row you’ve wanted to wait to sort the game
I don’t want to kill momentum. I’m here, I want to keep sorting. Can you explain why january is your top scum read for me? I feel like I know what penguins reasons are but I forgot why you’re voting there. I think it might help me clear my head.
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Post #1809 (isolation #233) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:45 am
Postby Dannflor »
I just can't stop second guessing myself now and I think I've gotten into my own head a little bit.
I think I lean towards that because tbh, it's just the easiest route to go right now and there's always a chance Banakai flips scum even if I don't think it's super high.
That is a very lame way to play obviously, there's just a part of me that hopes the game state will be clearer or that january will be easier to read with Banakai out of the picture. I should probably just suck it up.
I want to hear from Gamma and then I'm just gonna make a decision and stick to it.
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Post #1812 (isolation #235) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 7:27 am
Postby Dannflor »
In post 1811, Gamma Emerald wrote:I think she was given pointers in the scum PT about what to press, which led to some rather incongruous looking thought processes.
What? Sheep is dead, also there's no day talk. I'm not sure about this one.
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Post #1841 (isolation #242) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:24 am
Postby Dannflor »
Also contrary to Pyrrha, I do find the “Why would sheep defend me” question before getting on the wagon yesterday a somewhat above rand SvS interaction
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Post #1845 (isolation #244) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:28 am
Postby Dannflor »
I changed my mind
VOTE: BS
This isn’t even a compromise, I think this is just scum.
Look at his ISO today and tell me what he’s done. He’s been town read for lack of agenda but he doesn’t need an agenda if January and Banakai are lined up as mislynches. Hell, eth0s, who is dead, has provided more hard content than him.
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Post #1846 (isolation #245) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 11:33 am
Postby Dannflor »
Like I’m not going to drag up specific quotes because I think it’s easier to just look at his recent ISO yourself and look at the types of questions and comments he makes. It’s busywork.
I understand that you wanted to case Penguin, so you would challenge global townread (which was unjustified) on him and sort the slot. Nevertheless, when Dann pointed out that Penguin voted, but not bussed, Sheep, I think it gave him lots of town points.
I want to lynch you because of PoE, not because of that push.
Is anyone (for example January) able to show me that Penguins action was not as towny as I think it was?
In post 1783, Blatant Scum wrote:Will be here after in weekend.
Try to not lynch January, will try to ISO herm
In post 1838, Dannflor wrote:He says intent to hammer January a couple days ago and now is like “wait let me ISO her this weeekend”?
He hasn’t taken a hard stance this day phase.
And tbh, he was in a very good position after the sheep flip
How do you figure that? Sheep made him look like his buddy and never made even any attempt to distance him.
Sure. But Banakai was set to be lynched anyway, whatever sheep did wasn't enough to town spew him. BS on the other hand was in a perfectly fine position, which would explain sheep's lack of will to fight a little better than Banakai, I think.
This isn’t even a compromise, I think this is just scum.
Look at his ISO today and tell me what he’s done. He’s been town read for lack of agenda but he doesn’t need an agenda if January and Banakai are lined up as mislynches. Hell, eth0s, who is dead, has provided more hard content than him.
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Post #1876 (isolation #252) » Wed Dec 04, 2019 6:45 pm
Postby Dannflor »
In post 1873, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:Sheep was voting him and everyone but apparently me and eth0s, aren’t seeing that as distancing?
Also, I recently finished modding a game town!BS played in and he asked the exact same role pm colour question in that game. He trolls in every game he’s in.
So logically, BS would also troll in games that he is scum.
I don't see it as distancing because it is:
A: Very 1-directional
2: Doesn't actually accomplish anything to get Banakai out of the lynch pool after sheep's flip
