Micro 904: Radja's Story Episode 1 - GAME OVER

[Gamma Emerald]

hmmm which of those entrances annoyed me more

eh I’ll compromise

VOTE: gemerl

It took me awhile to notice - who is this vote for?

gemerl

g emerl

g emeral

g emerald

gamma emerald

Figures this is the case but why that

[Gamma Emerald]

Ugh, Hectic doing his thing again
Hectic just plays every game like he’s a gimmick alt
It’s very exhausting

[Gamma Emerald]

also kinda confused by the whole "no night kill" dialogue

i assumed there would be no N0 actions due to player count

wot

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a read.

Let's hear it.

-Hectic

Instead, let's go around the room and say whether or not we have a read.

I do
You’re scum.
What’s the point of this?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm noticing a rather large quantity of seemingly pointless fluff.

Considering you seem to be one of the largest contributors, mind joining the game with the rest of us?

The crow calls the raven black I see

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a read.

Let's hear it.

-Hectic

Instead, let's go around the room and say whether or not we have a read.

I do
You’re scum.
What’s the point of this?

Create discussion and get a sense of where players are on the game. What else would be the point?

Looking like you are doing something
Like that’s the sense the majority of your posting gives me so far

[Gamma Emerald]

What's with this hostility lol

You get townpoints just for your sig. I'm biased here and don't care.

It irks me that i get accused of being one of the biggest contributors of fluff when other people are literally shitposting.. Like talking about unrelated games, claiming scum, and generally trolling nonsense..

I pointed out that fakeclaims are definitely a thing in response to suggestion that maybe there's some ambiguity there. Gave my 2 cents on the massclaim idea, and repeated myself about fakeclaims for sure being a thing, because ppl seem to either not be paying attention or straight up ignoring me. I'm not the one shitting on the thread for the luls here.

What sig
Also the post immediately after this seems needlessly dramatic

[Gamma Emerald]

Victor is the oddball. The only person without a partner.

@#75
Am against massclaim. Noticed speculation about potential benefit of knowing who our partners are, so came up with a potential compromise. Just my 2 cents. I'm cool with anywhere between 0 and 3 people flavor claiming today.

Ok
So what’s special about Lewis?

[Gamma Emerald]

How's the weather up there? Please don't throw the newb card down at me in dismissal.

Ironic how you try to dismiss everything as me "throwing a newb card at you" instead of responding in kind.

And yet you continue to throw the newb card at me after I asked you not to. You keep making baseless assumptions about me. What did I dismiss? What specifically do you want me to respond to?

Quote me "throwing the newb card at you"

You dismissed my entire string of posts on why what you're doing is bad and why your stance on the game and the way other people are playing is bad as "throwing the newb card at you" - I merely said I wasn't going to be as harsh with you because your new.

Spoiler: @Zenith

I'm noticing a rather large quantity of seemingly pointless fluff.

Considering you seem to be one of the largest contributors, mind joining the game with the rest of us?

I'm not the one trolling the thread with posts about night 0 no kill or stories of 1 town winning vs 2 scum and such nonsense. If that's the kind of game you'd like to play, then no thanks, I'd rather not join in.

What's with this hostility lol

You get townpoints just for your sig. I'm biased here and don't care.

It irks me that i get accused of being one of the biggest contributors of fluff when other people are literally shitposting.. Like talking about unrelated games, claiming scum, and generally trolling nonsense..

I pointed out that fakeclaims are definitely a thing in response to suggestion that maybe there's some ambiguity there. Gave my 2 cents on the massclaim idea, and repeated myself about fakeclaims for sure being a thing, because ppl seem to either not be paying attention or straight up ignoring me. I'm not the one shitting on the thread for the luls here.

I mean, I just finished my first game where I happened to roll scum despite wanting to be town. So initially i was hyped for my first game as town. Yay I finally get to try scumhunting for reals! But then game starts and it's been like crawling through a sewer.. What am I supposed to do with all this turd? And then when I ask why there's a bunch of turd smeared on the walls, I get a stinky finger pointing at me and declaring me the poop bandit!

I'd rather not have to replace out, but the hype is completely gone, replaced by an awful stink.

You've made it very apparent that you're remarkably new and don't know what's going on, so I'm going to go easy on you for the first response. I appreciate that you seem to be trying hard, but if you think the claim discussion is getting anywhere, it isn't. The reason no one seriously responded to you was because (as you discovered by talking to yourself) the whole fake claim train of thought was silly and a dead end discussion that makes it look like you're adding content to the game while you're not - at least nothing worthwhile. It's disadvantageous for us to even approach discussion on the matter because it avoids anyone doing anything actually alignment indicative, as meta discussion is very easy to fake as scum.

Additionally, what I'm doing is not meaningless, nor is it fluff-posting. I'm not going to get into a whole lot it right now because I might make it slightly harder on myself if I do, but I'm very willing to talk about it post-game with you. I promise I'm trying just as hard as you are, I'm just more effective. Relax, play the game, and learn. No one is good at the start. As stated earlier, no one is good right now, and I've been playing since 2012.

@Zenith - additionally, save that energy for later, you'll need it when the game gets more difficult. Make notes to yourself about what posts mean to you and your thoughts on them - it will help you get farther in depth on your reads. If you burn yourself out trying to make something happen in the first few days, you'll probably get shot night 1 and then not even care how the game ends (or maybe you will) and some lurker will be there in Lylo losing the game by lynching the player you knew was scum from the start. The game plays with time, it's not something you can pour effort into in a short burst and get immediate returns - it's a long term investment and you have to keep putting in, and honestly, it will usually take back more than it gives you.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Zenith

Can’t believe this took so long
My impression is that Enter could be trying to deal with a rather pricklish newb mafia partner in Zenith rn

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm noticing a rather large quantity of seemingly pointless fluff.

Considering you seem to be one of the largest contributors, mind joining the game with the rest of us?

The crow calls the raven black I see

You literally just quoted a post of mine crafted to generate discussion, and I'm actively pursuing players, coming out of RVS not entirely sure what you expect?

I have a read.

Let's hear it.

-Hectic

Instead, let's go around the room and say whether or not we have a read.

I do
You’re scum.
What’s the point of this?

Create discussion and get a sense of where players are on the game. What else would be the point?

Looking like you are doing something
Like that’s the sense the majority of your posting gives me so far

Funny, it was intended to make you feel the opposite way about it. That said, I've done an awful lot for only looking like it, I think. It's RVS, though, or close enough for it to count. Drop a vote.

K
VOTE: enter

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm noticing a rather large quantity of seemingly pointless fluff.

Considering you seem to be one of the largest contributors, mind joining the game with the rest of us?

The crow calls the raven black I see

I'll be the first to admit that I've had shitty posts since then, but that was after being exposed to the shit smeared walls. Plus alcohol from turkey day. And this Enter person drawing me into a shit hole. I try to climb out and get pulled back in.

Also the post immediately after this seems needlessly dramatic

I do not disagree. It was over the top and reaction fishing.

So what’s special about Lewis?

Lewis is my partner, and I outed myself as Chet in my first post without really thinking about it.

I like this response, and I saw it earlier which is why I’m voting Enter rn
I’d vaguely sussed out your connection to Lewis tbh, but it’s good for you to air it publicly

[Gamma Emerald]

I’d ask what reaction you got from that post too but iirc most of the game is you vs. Enter

[Gamma Emerald]

I have a read.

Let's hear it.

-Hectic

Instead, let's go around the room and say whether or not we have a read.

I do
You’re scum.
What’s the point of this?

I agree, but why isnt your vote there. To pre-empt the obvious question, (I dont move votes as my head in a hydra until I clear it with my other head.)

Well I wanted to read fully in case a better vote came + poking it first felt like the better play.

[Gamma Emerald]

Alright I feel a lot better about Zenith town.

o_rly
y?

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE: Zenith

Why publicly coach him?

The way you’re dressing it feels like distancing with the condescension
Though ofc I think he’s a fair amount townier now

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m liking Haggle and Gamma. Dreamer might be coasting but too early to tell. I’m not sold on Enter scum but I’m trusting Jingle’s read for now. However, I’m picking up some townie sounding frustration, so I dunno.

~Nancy

Talk about Haggle maybe

@haggle Why/how would being a Poe be alignment indicative?

What is “being a Poe”?

[Gamma Emerald]

But why? All of our occupations are cops, Amrun.

-Hectic

We could be cops but have different roles setup wise
Like pls think

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm noticing a rather large quantity of seemingly pointless fluff.

Considering you seem to be one of the largest contributors, mind joining the game with the rest of us?

The crow calls the raven black I see

I'll be the first to admit that I've had shitty posts since then, but that was after being exposed to the shit smeared walls. Plus alcohol from turkey day. And this Enter person drawing me into a shit hole. I try to climb out and get pulled back in.

Also the post immediately after this seems needlessly dramatic

I do not disagree. It was over the top and reaction fishing.

So what’s special about Lewis?

Lewis is my partner, and I outed myself as Chet in my first post without really thinking about it.

I like this response, and I saw it earlier which is why I’m voting Enter rn
I’d vaguely sussed out your connection to Lewis tbh, but it’s good for you to air it publicly

Why? What did you like about it?

It is acknowledging my concerns and working to alleviate them

[Gamma Emerald]

I’d ask what reaction you got from that post too but iirc most of the game is you vs. Enter

Wait -- Zenith's post, which you both agree is bad and over the top (i'm almost certain he doesn't mean reaction fishing in the way you're trying to twist it) is excusable and you're treating him like town

but I've had multiple posts this game that are intentionally lynch-baity and reaction fishing but I'm scum for them?

Please explain

I have a read.

Let's hear it.

-Hectic

Instead, let's go around the room and say whether or not we have a read.

I do
You’re scum.
What’s the point of this?

I agree, but why isnt your vote there. To pre-empt the obvious question, (I dont move votes as my head in a hydra until I clear it with my other head.)

Well I wanted to read fully in case a better vote came + poking it first felt like the better play.

But you haven't read all the way up yet. It just depends on how you're feeling that day, I guess?

You haven’t acknowledged your lynchbaity (which was not what I believe Zenith called eir posts) posts in a genuine and humble (idfk if that’s the right word) way. E honestly and freely admitted it, your first admission here is only in the interest of shooting down my consideration of his post.
As for voting then, I voted because I was being snarky because you are being pushy rn, and I felt like I was close enough to caught up.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE: Zenith

Why publicly coach him?

The way you’re dressing it feels like distancing with the condescension
Though ofc I think he’s a fair amount townier now

You're scum reading me based on my association with Zenith?

Depends what you mean by that

[Gamma Emerald]

What is “being a Poe”?

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define. ... %27s%20Law

-Hectic the Googler

Says nothing about actually being a Poe tho

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Zenith

Can’t believe this took so long
My impression is that Enter could be trying to deal with a rather pricklish newb mafia partner in Zenith rn

You think scum team would D1 death tunnel each other and spotlight themselves for.. For why?

Because of WIFOM, mate.

Why is your vote still on us then? and btw, thinking Enter and Gamma are linked here, completely blows my mind. I may not be good at reading Enter but I am good at reading Gamma and yeah, me and Jingle are totally in sync about him being obvtown. I also agree with him about Zenith.

How are Enter and I linked?

[Gamma Emerald]

Actually wait who said that in the first place

[Gamma Emerald]

My partner and I have decided we should all claim since there's 9 safe non-Victor safeclaims, and knowing partners will be good. Probably. I'll let you do the honours, Billy.

-Hectic

No

[Gamma Emerald]

I think i explained this poorly lol

Basically when radja posts a vote count it also comes along with one of the characters from the story and gives us their name and a bit of info on them

One of the characters so far has been a cop and the other was a criminal and that was written as their occupation. I was slightly concerned that maybe some of the occupations for certain characters could be different which could give away our TPRs if we all claim. I doubt that's the case but its just a thought i had

Tbh I find Uncrowned’s approach rn pretty towny

[Gamma Emerald]

WRT enter/zenith I’ve been getting the vibe that enter is poking zenith on purpose to keep him loud, useless, and distracting throughout the whole argument. Additionally, enter comes across as knowing zenith is town in a few places, and enter seems to want to be seen as the reasonable and reliable party while still cluttering the shit out of the thread.

This is main reason for my vote. I try to avoid bias and not fall into OMGUS, but it feels like that can take the form of over balancing by giving them a slight benefit of doubt townlean. In this case though he just kept on going way past the point of being antitown. It'd be smarter to be more subtle about it if he were scum, but hey, it can't be ignored at this point. He found an easy target and latched on, and through it all it's not even clear wether he reads me as town/scum.

If he were town, I think it much more likely that by now he would have backed off for a bit to let the thread breathe. Regardless of wether he thinks I'm scum or not. Because clearly we aren't getting anywhere, and if he were town truly thinking I'm scum then he could at least give everyone else a chance to catch up, perhaps hunt for my partner while analyzing me more passively from a distance by giving me a chance to interact with others.

I think I’m around if not at this point. I think there’s more to Enter’s push that makes it scummy. It looks like a scripted push to avoid need to fabricate much other sorting.

[Gamma Emerald]

Relevant how?

I’m trying to determine if I think you know scum have fake claims because you are scum. It won’t work now that I’ve told you.

I do find it interesting Zenith has the idea to talk about it but Zenith seems to be alluding to off-site experience so idk the full weirdness of that, plus the current info could likely be enough to prompt it. But like I saw no uncertainty about terminology which is ???

[Gamma Emerald]

You haven’t acknowledged your lynchbaity (which was not what I believe Zenith called eir posts) posts in a genuine and humble (idfk if that’s the right word) way. E honestly and freely admitted it, your first admission here is only in the interest of shooting down my consideration of his post.
As for voting then, I voted because I was being snarky because you are being pushy rn, and I felt like I was close enough to caught up.

So you're voting me because you're mad?

My posts were intentionally lynch-baity with the purpose of driving discussion.

Zenith's were not.

No, I’m voting you because you seem fake. I think the assertion of “driving discussion” is pretty meh, scum can do it too, can can fil to do it, and you minda seem stuck on asserting that. And again Zenith’s were not intentional for that reasoning you gave but Zenith also came clean about it fairly organically. Your coming clean was to take a pot shot at em.

[Gamma Emerald]

Asriel please tell us who you targeted because that person is likely town

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t think you can act anymore?

@mod can a Wounded player use night actions?

[Gamma Emerald]

Also happy birthday Radja

[Gamma Emerald]

WOT

[Gamma Emerald]

Sure
Also kinda thinking a massclaim would be good

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I think it might be better to just talk until you can post a claim order

[Gamma Emerald]

Zenith pls claim
Role and flavor

[Gamma Emerald]

Ummm I don’t think scum vig makes sense in a micro, even with balance not being assured

[Gamma Emerald]

Explain Zenith?

Gut feeling.

Can't quite put my finger on it, and the hydra thing may be interfering with my read somewhat. Don't recommend anyone blindly trust my gut. Better to come to your own opinions without my influence.

If anyone has ideas on who is scum, I'm all ears.

I think I do.

VOTE: Zenith

Mech says, two of the unconfirmed are scum. We know we’re town and we hardtown read Gamma, not exactly a difficult decision. We were leaning Amrun but hey thanks for making our decision easier.

Great apology gambit, so when we hypothetically flip, you get to be free of all responsibility for wrongly voting us. Amirite?

You ping me as scum, and you keep saying things that don't compute.

I'm voting you because I think you're scum, but I'm not pushing for your lynch because this is the endgame and I could be mistaken.

What doesn’t compute?

Also not sure if this is still wanted but I’m Ashley Williams

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I saw some of Stockport iirc, I also played/speced some of the games he modded based on TV shows

[Gamma Emerald]

As in?

[Gamma Emerald]

What doesn’t compute?

Have any of you played a Radja game before this? I just assumed that Tom and Chuck would be actual characters in this game, since the other slots seem to be.

Because no one has CC’d anyone, unless two of the claimed are actually fake safeclaims and really are Tom and Chuck.

Huh??

Tom Park (Post #94) looks like Julian from trailer park boys.

Yes, very salient point.

I'm pretty okay with just lynching Amrun, tbh.

~Jingle

But aren’t Tom and Chuck the scumteam? So unless anyone CCs Luke, Amrun has to be town.

No Jingle. Luke is 100% a town role, so unless anyone else CC’s Luke, Amrun would have to be town, because why else would we have it specifically stated in our role pm, that Luke is our partner, if he isn’t an actual character in the game?

Huh?

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you done making fun of me yet, @Zenith? I’ve never played a Radja game before, so sue me.

Yeah
I kinda feel like Zenith tried to discredit LGC there by acting all dumbfounded
When like I don’t find LGC’s posting that confusing at all.

[Gamma Emerald]

How is what they’re saying contradictory? And even then it’s a hydra so that’ll sometimes happen, but that itself can be sorted, as imo if the conflict between heads hurts their probable agenda as scum it makes them more likely town
And like LGC is saying things that make sense with a certain perspective, which while it is very unlikely to be the case, is still a valid way to see things

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m pretty sure only one of them has been arguing each
I think based on how they tend to play I think Nancy has the conftown view, she tends to have more moon logicky thought processes at times I feel

[Gamma Emerald]

Either that or someone talking in third person
Which tbh if they did that would be super questionable seeing as they don’t seem to be a hydra designed for that type of behavior
But my guess is Nancy just expanded on what she wrote initially

[Gamma Emerald]

Well I’m pretty sure I know what they’re doing better than you
And like I see this stuff I’ pointing out as rather obvious so it baffles me you miss it like you do

[Gamma Emerald]

I just realized this the second day Zenith has gotten into an argument with someone and it has dominated the thread
I don’t like that

[Gamma Emerald]

So I guess everyone is down to lynch Amrun?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Amrun
Literally impossible to lose the game off just this vote so I’m good to do it

[Gamma Emerald]

Think that is meant to be in reference to why he chose that target

[Gamma Emerald]

That feels a little grandstand-y

[Gamma Emerald]

I think we just lynch Amrun today and Chemist shoots Zenith if Amrun flips scum and one of LGC/me if Amrun flips town

[Gamma Emerald]

I think we just lynch Amrun today and Chemist shoots Zenith if Amrun flips scum and one of LGC/me if Amrun flips town

Gamma, we’re in MYLO. We’re either right about Amrun or we lose but based on Jingle’s case, I think extremely likely right.

And yes, if game doesn’t end - which it probably won’t - then Zenith looks the most like an Amrun buddy.

Chemist isn't one shot right
so I believe a mislynch can be recovered unless scum can prevent the kill

[Gamma Emerald]

Vigi has more shots?
RIP balance.

I mean I guess that might not be right
But I don't see a world in which we don't lynch Amrun
vig having more shots just determines if being wrong is an instant loss

[Gamma Emerald]

I think they were manual based on the idea they would likely be leftovers from the rest of the town flavors
Maybe they were RNGed between a smaller pool of town identities after taking Town PRs out
Wrt being partners I think speccing on that is prolly a crapshoot

[Gamma Emerald]

Ninja is meant to counter watcher, not tracker

[Gamma Emerald]

So just some tracker immune modifier.

That's not what I mean per se
Ninja avoids both, but balance wise Ninja is a fair counter to Watcher, while using it to counter Tracker is straight overkill
Like Watcher can much more conclusively catch scum running the nightkill versus Tracker

[Gamma Emerald]

I think we just lynch Amrun today and Chemist shoots Zenith if Amrun flips scum and one of LGC/me if Amrun flips town

Why not reverse this and lynch LGC, then vig shoots you after LGC flips scum, or shoots either Amrun or Chemist if LGC somehow flips town?

Because the conftown are leaning voting Amrun

[Gamma Emerald]

Amrun not being dead yet means either scum are already on the wagon, or Amrun is scum.

Scum would have

no*

reason not to hammer town-Amrun right now.

I'm still leaning towards an LGC/Gamma team.

Maybe the fact Chemist could still shoot them? And besides that who do you see that could quickhammer?

[Gamma Emerald]

Tbh I think you may have perspective slipped
The only people not voting Amrun rn are Amrun himself, Uncrowned, and you. Uncrowned is like, never scum, Amrun wouldn’t self hammer, and you should know you’re town. So like, what scum would be hammering at this point? It seems like the only point of that line was to drive the idea you’re not scum. Which I guess isn’t a perspective slip now that I’ve worked through it but it is still super deceptive.

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah I get that but you are making a point that seems to exonerate you when it doesn’t, at all, in no way, ever.

[Gamma Emerald]

Definitely would have been nice if Chemist had another shot but whatever, that twilight is so obvious
VOTE: Zenith

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I'm the only one who defended Amrun, because the case was kinda trash, so now it looks like I'm her partner, but I'm not.

How was the case trash?

[Gamma Emerald]

In my last game I was scum, and I bussed my partner. If I were scum here, I wouldn't have been the only person sticking my neck out to defend her. Precisely because of how it looks now. I legit thought she was likely to flip town, and I still think the case vs her was trash.

Nothing in this actually convinced me of anything. You have no established meta beyond like one game, it’s of no relevance how you played there because you could have had reason to play differently, or just chosen to do so.

[Gamma Emerald]

You seem to be calling it trash on principle. Do you disagree that the setup would have been extremely townsided had Amrun been a Town Tracker, barring scum having like 2 strong PRs?
And like I’m not dead set on you but until you start making points in your defense that actually amount to anything there’s not much that’s going to convince me from you that you’re town

[Gamma Emerald]

You seem to be calling it trash on principle. Do you disagree that the setup would have been extremely townsided had Amrun been a Town Tracker, barring scum having like 2 strong PRs?
And like I’m not dead set on you but until you start making points in your defense that actually amount to anything there’s not much that’s going to convince me from you that you’re town

I really don't see a reason to reheash this again. Like is there some reason you want to talk about it? the case is trash because it was

pure setup speculation

in a game with

potential bastard roles

where

balance is specifically not guaranteed..

That's it. The case was entirely setup speculation and nothing else. And setup speculation seems lretty weak when we don't know what scum roles there are, with potential bastard roles. So there's way to know if balanced or not, and even if you could somehow determine how balanced things are it wouldn't matter because balance is not guaranteed in this game.

I don't get why this is so difficult to understand. I also don't get why you want me to explain this again.

What could possibly convince people that I'm being truthful here? I mean I could quote my role pm but then I'd be breaking a rule and would probably get modkilled, or worse.

When people say “balance not guaranteed”, that doesn’t mean they didn’t try to balance the setup, unless that’s the theme. It just means they haven’t worked out every potential kink that may exist. I believe Radja would still attempt to make this balanced.

And if you want to try to convince me, stop making arguments that say things like “I wouldn’t be doing this as scum”. You are not in a position to be self-analyzing. Try reading Amrun’s posts back over and tell me what you get out of them. That would be a start.

[Gamma Emerald]

No point in keeping up appearances now. Yeah it was me. I am really glad I won because I didn’t want to lose Nancy’s read rate on me and the game. Thanks Amrun for being a great partner. Zenith, I meant what I said about the WIGOMy self meta defense. If that’s the only thing you can think of, don’t try to defend yourself. Instead work on finding the actual scum. Uncrowned and Asriel/Flowey, you guys did pretty well and I was kinda playing towards you guys Day 2, that probably was the scummiest thing I did this game. Good job using your role Chemist, I think you used it perfectly. Haggle idk what to say about you. Sorry for lynching you D1 Enter, but I definitely wanted to keep it to you or Zenith.

[Gamma Emerald]

Thank you Radja for modding btw! Forgot that in my initial shout outs.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you’ll be less lynch baity if you take my advice about how you deal with being pushed

[Gamma Emerald]

I tried a different style here of being more quiet and just analyzing what was going on around me. I don't think it was effective. Can't help but feel I let down the squad on this one. ); sorry guys

It certainly made you look towny though

[Gamma Emerald]

And yet somehow, not even once did I see you call Zenith a WOAT

[Gamma Emerald]

(if you take offense to that I’m sorry, it’s just a little funny)

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like you used the term WOAT to describe people a lot in Forest Fire, that wasn’t the case here
PEdit: that’s fair but still, noting the word got used a lot less overall

[Gamma Emerald]

Eh
Tbh I just disagree with the way you use that term and wanted to see if I could make a point
Like that term is very aggressive and confrontational imo, pretty much axing the person in question’s desire to work with you

[Gamma Emerald]

RJ?

[Gamma Emerald]

Idk I just found it interesting it never came up, and maybe by bringing that up I could make some sort of point

[Gamma Emerald]

I feel like criticizing because yeah you did abuse the word there, I don’t think you should use it outside of extreme cases (like <.01 percent of the time I think), but I guess you resolving to reduce the usage is alright
Like when you use that term I feel like it only serves to alienate the person you are townreading
PEdit: I guess my point is you seemed better received here where you didn’t use the term

[Gamma Emerald]

Not guaranteed != not aimed for, though

[Gamma Emerald]

One thing I noticed in Chemist’s role explicitly mentions being roleblocked
Surprised that didn’t come up in the game

[Gamma Emerald]

I should have claimed some type of gated tracker, or just VT. It was an error on my part.

Yeah, you totally fucked yourself with that.
I guess, I should have considered bussing as a possibility specifically because of that.

Chemist dying over confitown Uncrowned, also threw me but he was obviously killed to frame Zenith, so brilliant move there, Gamma.

I p much decided whether to kill Chemist on what I thought he could do to harm my ability to win if left him alive a full vigilante versus being flipped as full vigilante
I felt like in the former scenario he and Zenith could have gotten into an interaction that would have made Zenith obvtown

[Gamma Emerald]

I should have claimed some type of gated tracker, or just VT. It was an error on my part.

Yeah, you totally fucked yourself with that.
I guess, I should have considered bussing as a possibility specifically because of that.

Chemist dying over confitown Uncrowned, also threw me but he was obviously killed to frame Zenith, so brilliant move there, Gamma.

I p much decided whether to kill Chemist on what I thought he could do to harm my ability to win if left him alive a full vigilante versus being flipped as full vigilante
I felt like in the former scenario he and Zenith could have gotten into an interaction that would have made Zenith obvtown

Had Uncrowned died, I might have possibly reconsidered my Zenith read because it really made no sense for him to have killed Uncrowned over Chemist. Chemist wasn’t targeting you and you had to know that game was ending either that night or the following day, so if your goal was not exactly to frame Zenith, then that seems counterintuitive, as Chemist was no longer a threat to you and was possible mislynchbait.

THe issue was I had to block Chemist in case he had another shot, otherwise Zenith goes before I want him to and it’s down to you and me as suspects, and idk how well I would have fared in that scenario. So I had to weigh the two universes of “dead full vig Chemist” and “still living full vig Chemist” (one shot was not an issue because Zenith couldn’t have the reaction I was planning around) and the former seemed less risky just based on that evaluation

[Gamma Emerald]

Although to be fair, people don't really tunnel anymore. I don't think I've seen a tunnel in a while, either. Most play these days seems to be more involved in making yourself look towny than finding and lynching scum.

I think e was definitely death tunneling me in such a way that almost seemed to border on gaslighting. That’s why I was so sure e had to be scum, based specifically on the way e went about it. Twilight didn’t really help too much either. The next day e did a lot better minus the whole “the case on Amrun was trash” thing, excepted.

Yeah I was 99% certain of the win when Zenith put on that twilight performance

[Gamma Emerald]

Although to be fair, people don't really tunnel anymore. I don't think I've seen a tunnel in a while, either. Most play these days seems to be more involved in making yourself look towny than finding and lynching scum.

I think e was definitely death tunneling me in such a way that almost seemed to border on gaslighting. That’s why I was so sure e had to be scum, based specifically on the way e went about it. Twilight didn’t really help too much either. The next day e did a lot better minus the whole “the case on Amrun was trash” thing, excepted.

That's possible.
Reading him and trying to make sense of his posts after I was dead was bad enough that I just had to stop trying to keep up with the game, so after a while I simply skimmed everything and ignored his posts.

Yeah, I learned that the hard way. Everytime I tried to engage him, people doubted their tr on me. I was so extremely confused by it, it temporarily really badly messed with my head outside of the game. I’m just really grateful that my extreme temporary confusion didn’t mess up a really terrific friendship I had, because I was seriously that messed up over that.

If this friendship is your friendship with Jingle I’m real glad you managed to keep that intact after a taxing hydra game, I remember in DND mafia RC and Keychain has a falling out while hydra’ed that caused Keychain to rep out

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd like to pre in for the next episode if possible.

I'll play my more usual active style bc the one I tried this game was... ughh

I would not be opposed to trying to hydra with you that game

[Gamma Emerald]

Are you serious?

Everyone in the game, including your replacement, lamented all game about the lack of information we got day 1 due to your hammer. It made the game very, very difficult to win. Hammering scum doesn’t make someone town. It doesn’t make them scum, but it doesn’t make them town either.

I also find the fact that you didn’t apologize for your atrocious behavior (outside of that) post game pretty appalling.

Hey, I didn’t complain about that, don’t speak for me here

[Gamma Emerald]

I really wanted to hold my tongue which is why I didn’t say anything in that game. Ugh.

But please don’t paint me as if I was policy lynching you for your shitty hammer.

I just found you scummy for your actions in context. There is no need to get defensive for someone scumreading you for something You didn’t think would come off as scummy. That’s just part of the game.

It’s not “shitty” if you hammer scum. I’m seriously losing brain cells at this point, trying to get through to you. You’re the only one who’s getting defensive because you refuse to see that I made the right call and for God only knows what reasons, think you can get me to bully me into changing my mind on something it makes 0 sense to do so.

This is also why I got pissed you decided to call the L-1 scummy, especially with your given logic, because it would have made way more sense on town but shos flipped scum so you were trying to accuse me of setting up a hammer on my fucking scum buddy, which is moronic.

[Gamma Emerald]

Now I’m a little upset tbh

[Gamma Emerald]

I never got that memo sorry