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I’m in this awkward spot where one of my townreads is wrong and if we lose, I think it’s 100% on me because I could push through any lynch I wanted. I really want to get this right after all this time and effort. Sometimes the more I think about things the less sure I get and hurt my own reads.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Yeah, I haven’t made up my mind yet...In post 1253, eth0s wrote:
You arent even voting dann? And is your entire basis for wanting to lynch him over drew based on setup?In post 1238, Amrun wrote:Eth0s.... can you tell me why you won’t vote Dan with me?
No, it’s not entirely set up. As I explained. It’s also a lot to do with Pyrrah day 1/2.
I, as scum, would not waffle day 1 as drew did. I also think Drew’s play re: thinking his neighbor claim was confirmable came off genuine at the time.
But I also seriously take issue with the fact that he is confirmed to have neighbored N1 when a kill happened, yes.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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I think it’s coming to Occam’s Razor for me.
Occam’s razor says drew didn’t kill Flicker.
Occam’s razor says you, as buddy, wouldn’t freely put wheels on the shos wagon.
So who does that leave? Dann.
But by his play since replace in, I’d call him town. JFC.-
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But then also, I think eth0s had the most motivation to no kill whatever night power tracked him. Hate everything.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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I don’t either.In post 1258, Dannflor wrote:
this is probably the most pressing evidence for Drew!townIn post 1255, Amrun wrote:I, as scum, would not waffle day 1 as drew did. I also think Drew’s play re: thinking his neighbor claim was confirmable came off genuine at the time.
But I also seriously take issue with the fact that he is confirmed to have neighbored N1 when a kill happened, yes.
particularly thinking the neighbor claim was confirmable as town
I don't see that being a scum gambit from Drew given the way he's played
To accept drew as scum, I have to accept he did that, and he’s multitasking, and that scum power vs possible bg and tracker is neighborizer.
Why NOT claim VT? The bodyguard claim has served well to protect you until now. The only problem it presents is not being able to kill me, but I’m not sure it would have changed the no kill situation either way. It is slight town points but not enough to bet the game on.In post 1259, Dannflor wrote:why do I claim bodyguard versus VT as scum
Why should I accept that the type of player to do an accidental hammer is the type to show a logical progression and planned bus?In post 1261, Dannflor wrote:
I promised I wouldn't do this but I'm doing it anywayIn post 233, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:@Gamma, is Shos’ push on Robb seem similar to Thor’s bs activity push on you in YGM? Maybe it is similar. That push was also horrendous, yet he kept insisting it had a real basis.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Shos
This is reminding me of Thor/Gamma in YGM.
but from my—totally objective of course—position, I would think there would be more build up/deliberate progression shown here if this hammer was a bus vote
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if it was an accidental hammer and she was just too embarrassed to admit that later-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Quote for fucking truth.In post 1288, Dannflor wrote:why is this game so fucking hard
I feel like it should not be this hard-
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Anyone could have started a wagon on anyone. I mean, I was kinda trying to start one on flicker. That exchange could have flipped to Robb. A lot of things.In post 1296, Dannflor wrote:I guess a similar train of thought can go for eth0s
Which is a bunch of hot air that doesn’t mean anything. Sigh.
Dann - gun to your head - who is scum?-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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In post 1306, Dannflor wrote:I really really hate the multitasking modifier and the WIFOM it introduces
+1
Postgame going to shitpost about this in MD.
I’m not letting this game go to draw. We will lynch someone and fucking pray it’s right. It’ll probably be wrong. That’s just life.
The good news is whoever is scum has played a damn good game so I won’t be as upset as I would otherwise if we really do lose. Hats off to you either way.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Ok, here are my final thoughts.
I have been leaning this way for some time, but eth0s’ refusal to follow me onto Dann if I wanted to have me pause because there’s no point in scum doing this.
However, other than that, I had mostly already decided to vote there. Drew and I have been discussing it in the neighborhood.
I told him from the start of the day I won’t vote him in LyLo because I believe the flicker kill excludes him from being scum. I don’t think he CANNOT mechanically be scum, but I do think it’s exceedingly unlikely.
I still have a lot of pause on giving Dann a pass, for many previously stated reasons, mostly pyrrah’s play. Truthfully, I also did not want eth0s to be scum or especially to mislynch eth0s because the feeling of solidarity between me and him on day 2 kinda got me through that day!
What it comes down to, for me, is a number of suspicions that he let trail off and got distracted by other things in a way that doesn’t look as genuine in hindsight.
Therefore, eth0s, so sorry if it’s not you. I enjoyed playing with you regardless.
VOTE: eth0s-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Eth0s, you honestly played a great game!
Besides day 2, which I hated more than any game I have ever played, this game was fun.
It was a chance to actually solve. Very happy to see that red flip.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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It’s not a broken set up by any means. It was fine. Eth0s got unlucky with how it shook out. He played well.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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I was pretty mentally set on eth0s for several real life days but I didn’t want to influence dan. He said he’d sheep me but I was still trying to finally decide so I wanted to see if he’d organically get there in a believable way or if he’d fabricate a reason, or what. In the end, he didn’t really say anything I hadn’t already thought of it but the way he expressed it did sound genuine. And he did do meta dives I didn’t do, which was helpful.
That’s why I also didn’t post in thread that there was no way I was voting Drew today. I think that would have totally led to a different situation, if I had, because eth0s would have been able to come out guns blazing against dan instead of backing himself into a corner against drew. Ultimately, that was pretty decisive for me. Dann also voted for drew but he was transparently trying to solve the game where eth0s was not. Final nail in the coffin (from my perspective).-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Sh we are erasing that part.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Frankly, if you had stayed in the game, you would have been mislynched. Period. Easily could have made this a town loss.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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In post 1354, eth0s wrote:Is there anything I could have done to avoid being lynched at the end there? Tbh once dann wrote out that post clearing drew I kinda froze up and figured fighting back was futile.
You had a window I might have voted Dann, so, yes, you did. I had a hard time deciding between you two.
I was never, ever voting Drew though. I told him that in the neighborhood.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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In post 1361, Dannflor wrote:
the power lynch SUCKEDIn post 1359, RadiantCowbells wrote:The power lynch sucked
oops
I actually don’t think it was that bad. Like not our finest hour, but, I’d probably have lynched him in LyLo over rth0s soo.... >.>-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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I thought it was gonna be gamma, man. I really did.-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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I don’t believe I was ever at L-1. Power never claimed his result until HE was at L-1.In post 1371, Pyrrha Nikos wrote:
She was at L-1 I think, before Power claimed the track on her.In post 1370, Dannflor wrote:I was gonna fight an Amrun lynch pretty hard
Sorry, power!!-
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Amrun Killed the Radio Star
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Personally, that wasn’t at all why I voted for you. I didn’t suspect eth0s at that point so obviously my reads were sucking then. Sorry!!
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