Micro 910: Autobattler Mafia - Game Over

[shos]

Sup pops, drew, pyrrha

sup other people

not sup asriel VOTE: Asriel Dreemurr

[shos]

Is it beneficial for us to setup specs? Is this setup balanced? What is the best bonus for town?

[shos]

If anyone wishes to hammer (for example me), please, give intent before. I have a post I want to post near the end of day 1.

This is D1 and we are on page 1
What could you POSSIBLY want to write

[shos]

Well by all means, this is an open setup, of you have any information town should know before day's end, I don't see why you'd withhold that

[shos]

why are you so worried about someone hammering you giant plant amalgamation?

intent to hammer

Also,

I AM NOT FLOWEY

Also what is flowey

[shos]

weird

i'm not a "try tryhard" flubber i just want to get to the fun part of this game

VOTE: Cheeky

Such a tryhard eve
VOTE: Eve

[shos]

weird

i'm not a "try tryhard" flubber i just want to get to the fun part of this game

VOTE: Cheeky

Such a tryhard eve
VOTE: Eve

Being a “tryhard” is NIA though. Do you read it as being fake?

In general I'm not scumreading that trait at all, but Eve has been posting what feels to me like 60% of the game and still I cannot find much content so it's a good place to have my vote in gamestart.

[shos]

Eve literally makes me laugh loud at work lol
I've been thinking a lot about the setup and I think our best way to think right now is not what is best for town; rather, what is best for scum?? Surely the scum had asked that question before assignment of cards - if not of all, of themselves - this is probably our best way forth.

For example. It is rather obvious that God bonus is better for town than Devil's. So there's no way that the scum will assign themselves God when they can choose to be otherwise. So for example, I'd say that a scumteam of shos & Cheeky is unlikely, and I'd even go further and say that anyone with God trait is less likely to be scum.

All this of course assumes smart scum etc, and should also probably only be used after D1 and not during it.

[shos]

Also I sincerely take back my vote right now
UNVOTE: Eve. I dislike her response to my vote - I literally admitted that it was not even half baked as an actual scumread, and she seemed to respond too heavily...but it is hilarious to me and that suggests she takes this lightly and not too dramatically. So not guilty

[shos]

ugh I'm dead tired will read up tomorrow sry

[shos]

reading p, got this interaction:

Spoiler: pingpong

I'm trying to make excitement flourish

Actives seem too towny in general

I'm trying to make excitement flourish

Actives seem too towny in general

Who's you top town reads off the bunch?

VOTE: Doctor Drew

Who were your top town reads Pops?

Eve asriel shos and pyra

Eve asriel shos and pyra

Thank you.

I think I am agreement with you on asriel and Pyrrah.....but why Eve and Shos?

And I'm thinking, so many townreads, so early in the game, but why?
Then pops seems to have ignored this and move on to a next conversation witout responding...could it be that those townreads are made up?...I'd be voting there, and then I see this post:

I TR Eve's push on shos more than I think it actually pushes shos into scum equity

You're ignoring a lot to call this town

This reads towny af to me. You're ignoring a lot to call Flub scum.

VOTE: Pops seems like you looked for a post to back up your read there and it was pretty weak sauce.

which suggests...this is ANOTHER INSTANCE of the same thing.

will read up before I vote but yeah consider me there

[shos]

Including herself that's 5/8 so pyrra should be pushing Drew/me/shos. After unvoting me it would have made more sense to push one of the other two.

Are you even remotely familiar with my meta? This is town!me in the majority of games on D1. Sure, sometimes - not often, I get lucky but I challenge you to prove otherwise.

Why tf would I push Drew, he’s one of my strongest tr?

why is Drew 'one of your strongest townreads'? Also, this suggests you have multiple ones and some are actually strong, where did those come from?

[shos]

I think Eve was joking about the deadline in theme with her let's lynch now to get to the next day tactic.

I can't speak for Eve on her reason to SR Pyrra for not understanding setup, but I could see how someone who doesn't know her might think she's feigning ignorance to produce content as scum.

Pyrra why is Drew your strongest town read?

Well, he’s clearly been sorting and I also liked his reaction to your response. I also don’t see any kind of agenda at all from him.

ok got it. acceptable, but you really sound like that is a

strong

townread. I mean how strong can you possibly townread Drew based on such few posts.

anyway a much better answer than pops' nonexistent one lol

[shos]

Wellz the last posts of page 12 are the first good input I can remember from Eve. I'll go back to nulling that slot. I do disagree there but I don't think this is alignment indicative in any way

ONWARDS

[shos]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

LOL

[shos]

nonexistent answer to what?

I could explain every single one of my townreads but that seems tedious?

247 for one. That post you utterly ignored

Also your current vote is my single best townread so it's shit lol
Pyrrah can also be town I think

VOTE: Pops

[shos]

PoE on D1?

[shos]

PoE on D1?

[shos]

That was to pops

[shos]

I see no reason the pops wagon isn't growing right now

[shos]

Eve's posts feel really non-genuine to me. Just sayin'. The posts don't come as sincere, it's like you're enjoying the non-direction this game has.
Also interesting, pops' volumes have decreased since I initiated the wagon on him. Scared?

VOTE: shos

?

[shos]

Eve is memeing, Pyrrha.

Shos, flubbernugget was much more deliberate in his pressure on me. Why are you taking the credit?

Admission of guilt?
I think your wagon gained traction only after me. If you show me I'm wrong and flip scum I'll be suspicious of flub lol

[shos]

Weird that Asriel picked up the dodgy read but then voted Shos who he's scumreading. SvS? Dunno yet. I think if SvS Asriel probably doesn't point it out but then some people play scum like they would play as town and maybe she saw that and pointed it out to cover tracks.

I say let's let asriel explain his shit, so far he hasn't actually done anything but vote me, perhaps it is just apressure thing. You're speculating too much

[shos]

Well I am allowed to have two scumreads, right? xP
I can easily vote Eve too without feeling bad about it. If the rest of the game leads an Eve wagon you won't see me fighting.

[shos]

Shos Eve is town.

Why are you so convinced of that and who do you think is scum then? Yeah, I know more questions but I need you to help me to see it.

Because Eve being town read so early tells me scum want to keep her around.

My solve is a work in progress.

sry lad you're gonna have to explain this a bit further. I don't get your point at all.

[shos]

ebwop

Shos Eve is town.

Why are you so convinced of that and who do you think is scum then? Yeah, I know more questions but I need you to help me to see it.

Because Eve being town read so early tells me scum want to keep her around.

My solve is a work in progress.

sry lass you're gonna have to explain this a bit further. I don't get your point at all. <3

[shos]

I don't get how flub gets voted more than pops.
Also a pops lynch would be so much more useful for analysis.

[shos]

especially with a scumflip ofc but that's circular logic so ya know

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K I'm phoneposting so no quotes and stuff but seriously I really like my pops vote very much. His vote hopping seems to be trying to get anything to stick and he STILL doesn't seem to give any serious arguments the way I see it.
Also it would seem Asriel is a good vote in general.
And pYrrah is definitely town.

Continuing

[shos]

Well that was a useless read

I can very happily live with either of the next three lynches:
Pops
Eve
Asriel

I will most definitely NOT lynch
Pyrrah
Cheeky

Anyone not on these lists is meh and needs to step it up better

[shos]

Those are flub and Drew. Hmm.
I remember having reads on them previously but I don't remember what lol

[shos]

VOTE: asriel

[shos]

ooooop my scumreads are now shifting heavily

[shos]

What on earth did Asriel just post
That was the wierdest IIOA I have ever seen in my life

what is the point of tracking activity as a function of game time in 9 days of D1? Can you give me literally anything you got from this?
Also please do explain how the fact I voted you is scummy? O_o

You've went on to garbage about everyone(everyone?) in the game with statistics and quotes but ou never said anything about any one at all. How does that help the game or answewr any questions at all that you've been asked?

[shos]

I mean just for the sake of it here's one of your posts

popsofctown

: not as towny as I though. Very few game related posts, reads without justification.

Spoiler:

Mmmmm I think this is TvT

Eve Pyrrha is TvT

Maybe this setup is too easy for town because at least one has to survive N1

townbloc: firesneakers, EEEEEEEEEva, --shos?/'''''\_____///Flubernugget?

PoE'd QQ: Asriel, Drew, CheekyTeeky

Spoiler:

Spoiler:

297 is Fluff instead of Analysis, it's far less sinister because there isn't even a pretense of content.
295, there's fairminded disagreement you can make on someone explaining a setup to Lamist, I won't refute that criticism with righteousness, criticizing 297 is just silly though

I don't really use the "pressure voting" paradigm very much, I put a vote down to encourage thread activity, not necessarily from the recipient. As for scumreading you poorly - yes I don't really scumread you as heavily as someone I'd be excited to Day 1 lynch, could you please post more so I can sort you?

I think you seem earnest this page.
If you understand that my approach to day 1 is "catalyze activity" and not "pressure scumz into obvscumming" you should be able to follow why I would votehop. "trying to make excitement flourish" doesn't reference pressure and I don't see how you could read it way unless you project site norms onto me pretty hard and imma say pls nah on that then. Since you quoted the vote later to complain about it, I did make excitement flourish!

I agree with those being the worst two posts from him.

What have you found scummy about Dr. Drew? Is it in the thread if I reread? I am alive in a lot of games right now. And I have two initiation ceremonies today.

shos, what would you learn?

Why do you scumread her?

Forgot to check this for asking questions. Bah.

what are we supposed to learn from this?
and lol ffs pops how does that make you townread him

[shos]

Also dislike Eve's automatic sheeeping but let's disassemble that one later

off to work.

[shos]

-havent read responses-
Asriel, I'll just have you know that in my entire "career" I don't think anyone managed to make me think about a game (as town) for so long when not in a computer/phone, and you've just done that omw to work. Congrats.

What I congrats you a little less about is that while I was driving I considered this as a panicking mechanism. I didn't use it in this context, but I did do that huge wall of useless information once in order to get someone mislynched. That was Nazerene, dunno how many years ago.

So I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt to explain yourself and what the point is with all that crap information you just vomited - good luck. Should you fail, the wagon is ready and the horses are fed, and when I deathtunnel, I DEATHtunnel.

[shos]

If we don't mislynch at least once we don't get to use this setup's special mechanics :p


shos it's not IioA if there's also analysis. And IioA is a per-threadvisit thing, not a per post thing

What analysis was there? In any of his posts?
Take the post on me for this specific example, yes? Asriel has been voting me for days now and still supposedly thinks I am scum, what analysis did you manage to yield from that? How did that specific post help you solve the game?

[shos]

I'm phoneposting and this makes quoting much harder and thus my point is probably not as clear as I'd like it to be, but, please hear me out here as a summary of my thoughts in today's workdrive

1. My top 3 scumreads for the day are Eve, pops and Asriel.
2. By now we have much much info in order to make, say, a contentful behavioral analysis on practically everyone.
3. Eve and pops are all over the place. Voting everyone, wagon hopping, offtopic posting and to a much lesser extent trying to solve the game (or appearing so). As for asriel read my latest posts and/or compare them to his ISO since gamestart literally.
4. Pyrrah has been the complete opposite and I townread her through the roof.
5. I don't know what to do with Drew. His posting hasn't been scummy at all, yet his townish contribution is rather minimal. I think a Lynch there would be useless information-wise and too high of a risk. The fact that both pops voted there and Eve wagonhopprd onto him in a blink of an eye makes me automatically believe that he is a townie.

Therefore;
Out lynch pool should be one of {Eve, Asriel, pops}. We have still ample time to get a good decision here, although I think we may even have two scums in this pool.

If I didn't mention you I'm this post at all, you have to work harder, if you're town.

[shos]

I care, but can't really convince people I am not scum and that Eve is.

Iso her and tell me she is town. Her meta on me was proven to be shit....never even mentioned which cult game she looked at(there were differences in all of them).

Ok, now I am getting fired up. As stated, one mislynch and tomorrow is fucked. Think logically, there is nothing I have done that makes me scum and plenty that Eve has done. Not sure why it is only clear to me.

Her and her scum buddy got scared and omgus voted, and it has stuck.

Again, maybe too little too late.......but I don't how everyone sees Eve as town.

Eve can you link us to the game you referenced? Scum tend to call meta without actually making work, let's see what you got

Also Drew who do you think her buddy is?

[shos]

Ahhhhh my awesome scum case on Naz. 5 years ago, back when I was awesome

[shos]

Pops pleas explain ASAP how a mislynch benefits town

[shos]

Someone make a quick VC

[shos]

Based on the last ten pages:

Pyrrah last unvoted
Pops voted Drew and even hopped silently
Asriel votes flub
I voted asriel

[shos]

Can I have an Eve "compromise" lunch?

[shos]

I am extremely unwilling to Lynch someone based on meta alone

Although I do admit to probably have been ignoring the cheeky slot this game. Help me solve it


How long do we have till DL BTW?

[shos]

~20 hours with no extension

So three days until the mod notices?

@Pyrrah I'll admit the recent posting makes me want him less dead (also near-deadline activity is much protown, scum would love the game to coast to NL) but I'm not at all convinced that I want to vote cheeky?

[shos]

Consider me on the fence for the while
If it takes it I shall hammer

[shos]

Settle on Asriel? We're not nolynching guys that would be sooooo antitown

[shos]

GUYS WHY NO VOTES WTF

VOTE: ASRIEL
get this done

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With 8 votes it takes 5 to lynch

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-13 03:00:00)

9 hours from now. I'll be on before deadline before going to work, but till then I'm sleeping with them fishes. DONT LET THIS GET TO BE A NOLYNCH.

[shos]

Oh hey we have another day
Heeey heeey, I saved the world todayyy
Everybody's happy now the bad things give awayiayyyy

So Eve let's talk
Why have you stepped down on my asriel wagon, and more importantly, why should I not vote you?

I very much dislike the apparent coordination in votes by pops and Eve. They were on a 3-votes wagon and both suddenly decided to move to another wagon to make it 3-votes without either of the lynchees posting. That makes no sense

Since we have another day I'm leaning towards an Eve Lynch again

[shos]

She hasn't been analyzing shit, the way I see it. She blabs general reads without explaining and hops on wagons a lot. She is all over the place and the amount of garbage surmounts the content, if it's there, so much that it can't be seen. She isn't coherent and her posts seem insincere.

That's just about as good a case as can be for D1 barring an actual scum slip.
Much of this could also be said about you in gamestart, but to a much lesser extent in the last few pages. The surge of activity when we were nearing day end also gives you better credit than her.

You can compare this to the Asriel wagon, for example. Asriel is, by all means, wierd as fuck and has posted really shitty stuff and disappeared repeatedly. That is like the complete orthogonal method of scumreading anyone in my eyes; so I can't say which I want gone first. For starters I'd keep my vote (and your votes) on Asriel as means to pressure him into posting before day's end and explain his shit or just succumb to pressure. Then, if asriel somehow gives us a good response, I'm all for hitting the Eve wagon.

[shos]

If that wasn't clear my scumreads are now
Level scummy mcscum of scumland: Eve, Asriel
Level scummishh of ishland: pops

[shos]

You'll find no resistance at all from me of you vote Asriel, if that answers you

[shos]

Well since it seems people don't care much about the deadline looming etc I'll go for the more likely Lynch

VOTE: Asriel

Make this happen.

[shos]

Imm too tired to sort flubby and cheeky.
But again, I will be up at morning to hammer any wagon before eDL

[shos]

Deadline: (expired on 2020-01-14 03:00:00)

10 hours to right NOW

[shos]

I think, and hope, this is a hammer then. Sorry miss, hope you're scum

VOTE: Eve

[shos]

Didn't read, no time etc, just popped to see the kill - why would asriel be killed?

[shos]

Alright I'm here and with time, let's see how the setup changed

[shos]

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These are those alive. Assuming mislynch(any scum lynch is good so no needs to worry there), let's see what happens if:

Spoiler: We mislynch Pyrrha

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Spoiler: We mislynch shos

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Spoiler: We mislynch Cheeky

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Spoiler: We mislynch Flubber

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Results:
we have no bonus at all if we lynch PYRRAH or POPS or DREW
we have attacker bonus if we lynch SHOS or FLUB
we have healer vonus if we ltnch CHEEKY

[shos]

Basically my conclusion is that the scum kill was not made based on the bonuses
so let's see who asriel was after

[shos]

Wow that dude has 59 posts
coulda sworn he had lik 4 xD

[shos]

This is the last impact on the game here

I have to learn for exam, so I will do this small one and continue tommorow.

Flubbernugget

: uhh, nothing pushing the game forward at all. I like this. Period.

Spoiler:

Cheeky townread is a bit weird - i don't see anything towny in her ISO - no explanations just a lot of vote swithing and being close to the chest

come on people the deadline is 12 hours away so let's lynch someone

Uhh....what?

No it isn't.

VOTE: Eve

VOTE: Eve

I dont see why this is vote worthy

Spoiler:

VOTE: Flubbernugget
I totally don't mind lynching this.

[shos]

I have a great great WTF bubble on my head right now

could be a random kill cuz town was off-shooting? is Pyrrah scum?

[shos]

Damn! just ISO’d Asriel and no case at all on Cheeky. I think he did everyone else but Eve and Cheeky.

So bear with me for a sec. Pyrrah was the strongest townread of mine earlier. But let's assume he's scum (sadly nobody to qestion as he's being replcaed ._.) :
Pyrrahscum notices this, and using yesterday's reads thinks he can lynch cheeky; so he kills Asriel, attempts to mislynch cheeky, get Healer bonus, and, I would *assume* that Pyrrah and me were the most townread so he'd autowin when we choose him for Healer bonus townie.

That's an option I guess.

[shos]

Adding to the fire

I dunno, they both made it so obvious that they were tr each other. There’s one way to find out, vote Cheeky and see who’s resisting it the hardest.

VOTE: Cheeky

[shos]

I'm assuming it had to be based on his types. God and Devil are pretty good. I think Healer is better, but mafia doesn't seem to agree. That could mean town's reads are wrong since Healer is one where you kind of jump facefirst into a loss if your reads are wrong, but like, what are the consensus reads, how are the mafia sure?

I think this might suggest that shos is likely to be scum, because if the goal was to cut off God and Devil, shos also had those types and would be harder to

mislynch.

???

If shos and Asriel were both town, the mafia would have shot shos instead of Asriel, because they have mostly the same types, and out of the two of them Asriel would be much easier to mislynch.

It's a hypothetical.

Wouldn't killing me make it 100% sure that we get an Attacker bonus, which is bad for scum?

[shos]

Yeah I can see why you'd want to lynch me. Sorry Eve, I thought you slipped at the end there.

Could you please show us the slip, supposedly?

[shos]

VOTE: cheeky
I'm betting the game on Pyrrah town just need to find another

[shos]

Yeah I can see why you'd want to lynch me. Sorry Eve, I thought you slipped at the end there.

Could you please show us the slip, supposedly?

Actually VCA says it's Pyrrha and Pops.

Care to elaborate?

Also I think Shos inadvertently buried this post.

@cheeky

[shos]

Girl*
Hiya pisskop
We're both town let's Lynch cheeky until she gives appropriate answers

[shos]

-here's a post to show I'm still waiting-

[shos]

Hold on

@MOD:

4 Healers - Choose two players to HEAL: , instead of lynching each day. They lose their vote and voice. If both selections are town, win, otherwise, lose.

If we get to 3:2, it's just one choice, right? not "each day", and they don't even actually get to lose their vote, right, cuz if they do then scum instawin?

[shos]

ehh kk

I think Attacker bonus is very much OK too. we just need 1 good lynch in two lynches (flub or the next lynch) to get to 3:1 and it isn't even mylo.

[shos]

Ehh it's hard to say
I have like big question marks leaning scum on half the people, so meh
I town read the pisskop slot and to a much lesser extent you. that isn't enough for a full PoE, but it's enough fo half-baked

[shos]

Honestly I am quite paranoid of pisskop because if the kill was not mechanics-related, then that means town was, in general, shooting in the wrong direction, and I think the Pyrrah slot was townread by like everyone. If that is the case, then scumpyrrah would SUPERBLY want healer bonus. you have towned up over the last few pages and stuff, but I'm really unsure about you and I hardly think town will agree to elect you in healer bonus anyway

I hope cheeky flips red and then our chances would be much much better

[shos]

Here's a thought
It feels like only you and me are actively trying to gamesolve. I can live with heal on both of us lol

[shos]

(will solve my pyrrah paranoia)

[shos]

I'm in a tough spot shos in that you've been really solvey but you spent all of yesterday bouncing between an Eve mislynch and an Asriel mislynch :/

I wasn't aiming at an asriel lynch iirc? and I take responsibility for Eve but you really can't blame me for it, I'd really hammer anyone near DL

[shos]

ugh the game also slowed down to nearly a halt, this page alone has posts from Jan 17, 18 and 19. Perhaps we should forget the setup discussion completely and try to recap the game to scumhunt normally - either way we have like 50% no bonus.

Tomorrow.

[shos]

VOTE: shos
The pace of the game has felt ok to me. Each post on this page is very nonfluff. At an emotional level that makes me think we are experiencing different games here.
In spite of a "solvey tone" he seems like he's trying to disrupt my agenda the entire entire game.

UNVOTE: drew might town and if her agrees to a piss pops heal that's ideal

That was quick
What happened in that 1.5 hours?

[shos]

VOTE: flub
Policy+attacker bonus is better

[shos]

PK preferring nightless is towny af

Btw I said that first, did you miss it or is your vote despite that?

[shos]

ehh kk

I think Attacker bonus is very much OK too. we just need 1 good lynch in two lynches (flub or the next lynch) to get to 3:1 and it isn't even mylo.

For the record

[shos]

See, pulling stuff like that makes me wanna vote you again.
But tomorrow.

[shos]

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https://giphy.com/gifs/are-you-serious- ... cpi0uUkd6U

Egh just imagine I remember how to use tags on this site

[shos]

Guys holy shit

If we lynch someone in the no-bonus pool, that will yield 5p at night, so if we mislynch we're done immediately.
OTOH
if we lynch Flub for the attacker bonus or cheeky for the healer bonus, a mislynch gives us more chances.
HEALER: makes us choose 2 town out of 5 (3 townies in), random odds of 30% to win
ATTACKER: allows us to keep lynching, 40% to get through and then we have to pick 2 out of the remaining 4 (technically 20% to win, but also gives us more ability to maneuver)

So I dunno which is the preference between the two bonuses, but clearly lynching in the no-bonus is super dangerous. Even if we do lynch correctly, we get to 4p mylo after that, meaning we're practically already in mylo if we make a choice to lynch a nobonus-er.

So here's my thinking
If we want healer, well, lynch cheeky and see what happens and good luck for us in case we mislynch
Otherwise, we should go for the attacker as it automatically gives us another lynch and more info (brings mylo to lylo) so lynch flub and then see what happens

How did we not do this analysis previously..

[shos]

[shos]

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Pisskop/Cheeky, please resopnd to 1036

[shos]

I was already cognizant of the tradeoffs described in post 1036, and thought enough is in thread that everyone would be but it's nice you've spelled it out in that way.

Every power in the game except maybe God Route is worth 1 incorrect sort, so it's illogical to vote outside the properly typed players because "we could hit scum".

shos, is the only reason you want to vote CT "tomorrow instead of today"? I think the routes are similar enough that voting between Flubber/shos/CT to hit the one most likely to flip red is optimal. The problem is my not being positive which one is scummiest.

Flubber is not helping me townread him, maybe I should be ignoring my VCA with regard to that.

@CT: Who are the three players you townread most?

I've come to actively not want Healer as the game has shuffled and PK is seriously not towning it p and there's so much you can do coasting on what your predecessor did. You have practically become my best townread, but I doubt this town will heal you and me.

either way, setupspec wise I think it is far better to lynch flub first.

[shos]

...and it's a hammer

[shos]

I literally voted when I argued why. And why didn't you declare L-1? O_o

not too unhappy about this even if green flip

[shos]

Lol ok you two
Doesn't matter much. Frankly

Let's see if we are good or in Mylo again

[shos]

Please unvote

[shos]

If that is today's 1v1, I'm totally on pops side

[shos]

Technically any test of this kind would only prove that one of you two is scum, if not both

[shos]

CT, why did you choose to make the test vote on pops?

[shos]

You have to decide if that was a test or a scumread vote. Can't be both. Or were you expecting townies to instahammer.?

[shos]

Our interactions deeper into the game felt like good cooperation in attempt to solve. That feel of genuinity. Nothing more, but nothing more is needed

[shos]

The universes where shos or pisskop are scum, I would think they avoid the thread until they can coordinate a quickhammer with Drew, even the two of them aren't scum together. So from my point of view it's 90% that CT is scum and you're going to have to move a lot of mountains to get me to vote elsewhere today

Not that I'm down to lynch anyone but pops today.

Alright guys. Help us out. Why should we pick your side in this? Time to put in some work.

[shos]

Well, the only real control pops could have, if scum, is a choice of his character (quite possible, he has a strong card - HGA) and the choice of the NK.
So which analysis do you think he has had to choose to NK asriel? iirc Asriel did not even suspect him.

[shos]

Well these areguments are weak
Drew perhaps you can assist if you think so too. Why pops? Directingg the narrative I agree with, but why is that scummy?

@pops - don't be silent there

[shos]

Welp.
I'm leaning towards a cheeky vote but I'm second guessing myself. Perhaps I'll try to make some ISO reading later

[shos]

PK, Drew, opinions?

[shos]

pops agenda seems to be largely self serving

?
Explain?

[shos]

Alright
I'm putting my money on pops town and fuck this
VOTE: Cheeky

L-1 in Lylo!

[shos]

NVM getting cold feet
UNVOTE:

[shos]

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VOTE: pops

[shos]

u town?

[shos]

damnit. I'm off to sleep

[shos]

Read the scum chat, that was incredibly fun and interesting. Thanks for the game guys. There was at least one part where I think pops suspected perfectly, this game was tense. Loved the ending lylo That tho, don't think I ever managed to get that as scum

[shos]

Original setup thread: viewtopic.php?f=115&t=81553
Mod thread: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=81735
Mafia thread: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=81737
Dead thread: viewtopic.php?f=90&t=81846

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