Micro 908: Micromence Vengeful (Misfire)

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: BBmolla

Town.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

I’ll bus you this time.

Scum.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

Scum?

I thought I did confirm. Oh well.

in that case

VOTE: salamence20

Can see these two as SvS that was a gross unvote.

RC how do we play this? Do I push you and have you get upset at me or do we avoid communication this game? Or do you want me gone since you signed up first? :/

[CheekyTeeky]

We're perpetually in Lylo right?

[CheekyTeeky]

Nope. But we both know at some point I'm going to get paranoid and vote you. Can you not get mad and help me through my paranoia?

[CheekyTeeky]

I put my RVS vote on someone who already has a vote. Tends to encourage discussion more than just putting it on another person. Someone's gotta do it.

You do realise this setup means we have to be more careful with our votes. I feel like you're overjustifying your behaviour here.

[CheekyTeeky]

Uncrowned have you played in games other than newbies?

[CheekyTeeky]

Sigh.

[CheekyTeeky]

RC thoughts on uncrowned?

[CheekyTeeky]

So i tried a different approach of calling him scum

and here I was thinking you didn't know this tactic existed.

I like Amrun for town now. Karnage probs town so chkflip town. Bbmolla has dropped to meh?

RC ignored me so he can be a nullhead.

[CheekyTeeky]

Page top by the way

Merry Xmas fam!

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Gobble

So anyone else put on a good amount of xmas food weight? I'm stuffed just like this turkey.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'll be honest, I thought the wording was a bit odd, but it's weak reasoning.

I don't really like BBmolla jumping on that.

I will say that of the two votes on me I think Cheekys is the worse one.

But mine is xmas themed do I not get points for that?
Seriously though the statement BBmolla pointed out felt like you were posturing. Have you not played a vengeful before? Why did you feel the need to say that?

[CheekyTeeky]

No. I think BBmolla’s reasoning for voting me is an overreaction to weird wordage personally. I don’t think it means I’m scummy for it. I’m mainly preoccupied that from any one townie’s perspective They have a 50\50 chance of catching a scum.

This seems like you're trying to look like you're playing 4d chess in retrospect of your scummy post.

"They scumread me for wording which was intentionally odd to give us a 50/50 chance of catching scum"

So you purposely said it to give us a 1/2 chance instead of 1/7 chance? Smells fishy to me and like you hadn't planned on any kind of response but are now trying to look towny in a twisted way.

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh...i just realised I misread your post. Yes you're kind of right. But what does preoccupation have to do with anything aside from again openly stating a towny point of view? Do town try to look town or do scum?

[CheekyTeeky]

That does sound better but like more work. And even then some people know their meta well enough it can turn into wifom. I mean at this stage a few of the Turkey's posts just seem like posturing. I feel a similar vibe with uncrowned.

In regards to everyone else it's difficult to know if people are lurking as scum or just busy over the holiday period.

[CheekyTeeky]

Posturing to me is someone who says things that look like town tells but in a manufactured way. Yes some scum lurk but being active is generally nai. You saying you're active and therefore town is another example of what I perceive as posturing. A better way to prove me wrong would be to scumhunt/townhunt instead of giving me reasons why you're town.

[CheekyTeeky]

I've never seen anybody posture about posturing.

I'm not even mad, that's impressive.

See you get me.

[CheekyTeeky]

I don’t even quite get what would be posturing in this game... like 3 people are active. It
Makes no sense to use that as an argument. I want Cheeky to explain what they see as posturing because I feel like it’s a bad case filled with using the buzzword of posturing to justify the vote.

Sure I'll humour you.

So if the townie vengekills wrong today we lose. Huh

this is a scumpost

This is a unnessesary statement of how this setup works. Saying "we" lose lumps you in with town. I see no other reason for this statement aside from attempting to town tell. Aside from posturing, how do you know we will mislynch today? Your statement seems to assume a mislynch in a way that gives me the impression you know people's alignments. Yes that one is a bit of a stretch but I'm attempting to be transparent with my thinking.

Next you say from towns pov the odds someone flips scum is 50/50. Though correct again there is no exlicit purpose other than to show you have a town pov. If you had used this fact to take a stance or propose a plan then I would have taken it as a genuine tell.

You also implied that because you're one of the few active you must be town. This is false as activity is nai as previously stated. So to me you're trying to convince us you're town instead of attempting to determine people's alignments which I believe is indicative that you're scum.

[CheekyTeeky]

Gobbles/Uncrowned/Lovebird or nah?

I do like this solve.

[CheekyTeeky]

Gobbles/Uncrowned/Lovebird or nah?

Lovebird is the weakest read, they seemed to be active lurking (different from just lurking) so I wouldn't cry over lynching or venging there.
I do like this solve.

Why Lovebird?

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Oh messed up the quote

Gobbles/Uncrowned/Lovebird or nah?

Why Lovebird?

Lovebird is the weakest read, they seemed to be active lurking (different from just lurking) so I wouldn't cry over lynching or venging there.

[CheekyTeeky]

*bbmolla jumping ship when turkey under pressure noted*

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm honestly confused about what you guys are arguing about. Like some bullet points somewhere might help? Atm I read that chkflip thinks gobble is scum for cog dis - saying one thing and then not following the same logic later.
Turkey thinks chicken fillet is scum because they are misrepping.

Is this ~ the tldr?

[CheekyTeeky]

Right now I like Amrun and Gobble.

I don't like BB and Lovebird.

Can you expand on these reads?

[CheekyTeeky]

Gobble when you repped in why did you read RC's iso?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'll take it.

[CheekyTeeky]

I've said previously that I don't mind lynching or vigging there and they haven't exactly shown up to change that opinion. I'm hoping others become more active so we don't end up with a low info lurker lynch.

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: uncrowned

[CheekyTeeky]

Good thing I'm not voting to please you then

[CheekyTeeky]

I think I've mentioned them a couple of times. I initially scumread him for voting RC out the gate but their interaction progressed naturally in a way that made me feel he was trying to sort RC and others at the same time so I'm happy lumping them in my town basket.

I also feel that chk is town because they saw things the same way I did which usually indicates we share the same alignment. I also felt their reads were nuanced when explained even if they were reachy at times.

What are your thoughts on these two?

[CheekyTeeky]

UNVOTE:

I think I need to ISO people which I won't have time for until much later today.

[CheekyTeeky]

What are your thoughts on these two?

Gobble I'd like a response to this.

[CheekyTeeky]

I think Amrun is the Godfather from the fact that everyone is ignoring her but I don't want to pursue that anyway.

It's funny you should say that because I was thinking the same of lamist gobble with the wagon quickly building on chk when gobble was under pressure.

I don't get how everyone is ignoring her given the game state (sorry for wrong pronoun) can you go a bit more into that?

[CheekyTeeky]

BBmolla thinking she's godfather and not wanting to put pressure there doesn't make sense. Shouldn't we be lynching the godfather asap?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm going to need some opinion here on what's been happening so far. There's been at least a little readable content to go off of at this point.

Why do you need opinion to form your own?

You bled town all over Radja’s game. I’m not seeing that here.

VOTE: Uncrowned


Sorry, RC, but that hissy fit was unwarranted. I generally think it makes you probably town, but it was unpleasant to read.

Is this the unvote you're talking about?

[CheekyTeeky]

Unvote because the entire basis for my vote was incorrect.

Oh this one?

[CheekyTeeky]

Actually yeah reading that post in isolation does look pretty bad.

I'm down once this replacement enlightens the thread.

[CheekyTeeky]

Secrets are scummy I'm not sure about your take on bbmolla but I think if you're going to meta dive a player for this push then let's see where it goes.

[CheekyTeeky]

I think that was because she just won two scum games with RC and he would intimately know how she plays.

This not meta?

[CheekyTeeky]

Hey PK any thoughts? Catch up soon or we'll nominate you for the venge should Amrun flip town. No pressure lol.

Amrun what are your reads on gobble and chk?

[CheekyTeeky]

I go party for new years and come back to you guys stabbing me in the back lol.

[CheekyTeeky]

NZ is the future. Surrender now or remain in the past, forgotten.

[CheekyTeeky]

Wait....PK are you sausage??

[CheekyTeeky]

What the actual...my mind is blown.

There's one person who calls me cheeky breeky and it ain't Dunnstral.

[CheekyTeeky]

Also you don't count me as a strong player so what kind of bs are you pedalling here?

[CheekyTeeky]

VOTE: Pisskop make sense or die.

[CheekyTeeky]

Ok so I've read some things and I don't understand the wagon transition from Amrun or Bbmolla.

Gobbles can you explain your shift on these two? Someone is shit stirring here and I'd like to lynch the godfather today who I am still paranoid is gobbles.

[CheekyTeeky]

Looking at VCs I think gobbles throws me off with voting everyone but I think godfather wouldn't want to be lynched so he wouldn't mind bussing.

I think uncrowned is def scum if gobbles is not godfather then it's that slot. Bbmolla and Amrun jumping on chk and disqualifying townreads there when gobbles was under pressure solidified my townread on chk. The wagon hopping and suspicion being thrown around make me think Amrun is not scum with gobbles but bbmolla could be especially with the two soft townreading each other.

Gobbles shading PK and taking the bait quickly when I push there just looks like scum are happy to lynch there.

VOTE: Gobbles

My solve is gobbles/bbmolla/uncrowned for post game bragging rights.

VOTE: Gobbles

[CheekyTeeky]

PK let's go you've been reverse reverse pocketed. Chk we've been in a loop but pretty sure we had it right from the start. Amrun you had your TvS the wrong way around.

[CheekyTeeky]

Uncrowned is playing a careful follow the leader game. Amrun is town based on the gobbles hard push on her that was quickly forgotten.

Now less talking more lynching.

[CheekyTeeky]

I maybe gobbles bbmolla were hard distancing but it doesn't look like that as bbmolla brought that up out of nowhere with gobbles hard pushing after. I don't see why scum would bus in that spot.

[CheekyTeeky]

You're omgus godfathering me? Turkey please. I'm taking that as a confession.

[CheekyTeeky]

Shit

If you're town gobble I'm sorry.

[CheekyTeeky]

It'd be hilarious if we went through all this and it was just the lurkers all along.

[CheekyTeeky]

Need to learn how to not be lynched day 1 cause I am generally accurate

You remind me of me when I started out.

[CheekyTeeky]

Why didn't you?

[CheekyTeeky]

Do I hammer or do you all want to discuss? Like who would everyone shoot?

[CheekyTeeky]

I'd shoot uncrowned.

[CheekyTeeky]

After the last phase Im pretty happy sheeping today.

[CheekyTeeky]

Because I boned us and Gobble was right.

[CheekyTeeky]

BB do you have nothing to say about possibly being the lynch today?

[CheekyTeeky]

Cheeky thoughts on who the two remaining scum are?

I'll show you mine if you show me yours.

[CheekyTeeky]

Uncrowned and one of you 3 lol. I could see scum PK.

VOTE: Uncrowned

Stop stalling and please catch up.

[CheekyTeeky]

It's different if you're in the storm bitmap ;P I had fun, thanks guys.

Sorry chk, I enjoyed playing with you and hope to do so as town one day <3.

[CheekyTeeky]

Not really much you can do when scum turbolynched me

It was the lulziest thing ever. I dont even mind being used as a gauge by cheeks.

Ahahaha can't believe we got away with it.

Well played Turkey, you had us running around for a bit there. We almost turbo lynched bb as well XD

[CheekyTeeky]

Glgl!

[CheekyTeeky]

Also props to BB who called Amrun as GF.

[CheekyTeeky]

Thanks Salamence for modding <3.

[CheekyTeeky]

RC we wouldn't have won with you here. Gl in TM, love your team Avis.