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I mean, in that first post, I did explain my read on bugs. That is something I did do.In post 548, gobbledygook wrote:What do you think of these posts from Allomancer?
Aside from the rest of them, I mean, I really don’t think there’s anything there that can’t be faked.-
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Can you be even transparent with your reads?
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Heaven helps a lot to understand the gamestate. I think if Heaven flips scum the game is just really easy and its probably one of {Pine, Looker}. If Heaven flips town, I think scum are okay with the gamestate and right now I feel like thats Allo.
Scum!Junko flip makes me think Allo is most likely their buddy since they accused me of derailing when I wanted to come out with a scumread on Allo. Town!Junko flip does not help me at all at.-
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quite frankly, to me, there's nothing to make sense of.
Like, I really feel like he needs to start being more transparent with his reads if he doesn't want to die here.
It is really weird to not be transparent about your reads when you are pushing a global TR, so I really hope he can help me with that one.-
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do you think its alignment indicative?In post 586, Allomancer wrote:Conveniently Heaven disappears as soon as she's in a duel.-
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the reason I'm asking is because I feel like in 586, he'ssuggestingits alignment indicative by saying Heaven disappears.
if he answers yes, I point out that Heaven hasn't posted onsite and probably flaked. A lot of how I feel like he answers the question is where the answer could come alignment indicative.
if he answers no, he's not suggesting its alignment indicative, I move on. Tho it kind of does make me question why he made the post.-
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So we agree about the gamestate and the duel. Thats good.In post 597, Raya36 wrote:
Based on Junko's play I don't think her starting the duel is alignment indicative. I think I'd rather vote for Heaven and I think Heaven is most likely scum. My only concern is that there is absolutely no resistance to a Heaven lynch at this point. So either scum is not active or caring and scum!Heaven gave up or Heaven is easy mislynch bait and we're all falling for it.In post 574, Captain the Furret wrote:Raya what do you think of the current duel and Allo?
Honestly I've been having trouble getting a read on Allo. Nothing screams scummy to me but also I haven't noticed anything particular that scum couldn't easily say. So a null read as of now.
To me, Allo is someone who is really trying to stay under the radar.-
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In post 513, Captain the Furret wrote:Actually with the dead air that was previously around when we were talking about Heaven
And how active the gamestate is becoming because I’m talking about the possibility of Allo being scum
VOTE: Allo
I’ll case it igIn post 514, Captain the Furret wrote:
I honestly feel like this is convenient stance to take for the time. I was getting RVS wagoned because I didn’t react to Gobbles vote and Raya/Gobbles wanted me to. Like, this is probably overthinking it, but I kind of feel like this is kind of easy to fake.In post 126, Allomancer wrote:I don't see what's wrong with not acknowledging a vote. Maybe ey just didn't see it as important.
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As scum, I feel like this is the best stance that scum would take here during this duel. Its easier to push the townie who lol dueled as a mislynch then the person they are dueling. Like, its a convenient stance.In post 272, Allomancer wrote:The post you quoted as the motive was in no way scummy. Dueling this early in the game is foolish anyway; why not wait until we have more information.
I'm not sure that you're necessarily scum, but someone this impulsive is definitely just going to hurt town with more of these duels, so given that I'm not scumreading bug spray, you should lose this duel.
Scum can just as easily say “Your duel is rash, and you did not have to duel Bugs”
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It also feels weird here that this is what they jump to to say that I didn’t explain myself, when I explained myself all over that page. I didn’t think about it at first because I felt like they were just voting me because I loldueled, but this feels really weird if you think about it. Because I posted a lot on that page about bugs being scum and instead of looking at any that, he decides to quote this post and say I didn’t explain why I voted bugs.In post 290, Allomancer wrote:
No explanation whatsoever.In post 159, Captain the Furret wrote:
like this comes across as just super scummy to me so I really want to kill it.In post 131, bugspray wrote:i agree its p sketch that alisae the furry furret is suddenly all vbiz and dropped the memes
i did that scumtell a few times in marathon games, the fe3h one comes to mind when i failbused datisi with a naked vote after previously ehavily rping brendata
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I kind of feel like this is problematic and that I feel like he’s okay with the duel.In post 347, Allomancer wrote:also bugspray seems to be at L-1
Like, if they feel like I should lose the duel, why does this post feel like they’re just sitting back and watching as it unfolds.
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Also, something like Heaven’s vote is easy for scum to jump onto assuming Heaven is town. I don’t think this really needs to be stated but hey, I’m stating it anyways
In post 515, Captain the Furret wrote:Like, a lot of this ISO kind of really feels like it can be faked by anything.
Like yeah in the moment of the duel, Allo’s stance on the duel and Allo voting me felt townie.
But really thinking about it and looking back on it, it kind of just feels like “yeah, this is stuff that could be faked”In post 518, Captain the Furret wrote:Like, I really just cannot feel okay with this readlist.
I feel like if Heaven flips town, I would want to look at Allo, and if Heaven flips scum, then the last is probably just in {Pine, Looker}
Like, the post that Junko makes about lurkers can definitely be faked, and her post on Heaven doesn’t add anything new. Like, most of us scumread Heaven and we all knew that.In post 484, Allomancer wrote:
Junko doesn't have a whole lot of content, but her recent posts do seem somewhat towny.In post 481, Raya36 wrote:Why do you have Junko so high? And reasoning for Looker?
Looker just sort of pops in, and does post game-advancing comments, but then votes with no explanation for the vote. I haven't seen a single vote explained by Looker.-
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There’s also this that doesn’t really make that much sense considering Junko didn’t explain a read on bugs either, but Allo never mentions that?In post 530, Allomancer wrote:Junko is now a null read.
Not explaining your reads is not good, but it seems she might just be lazy. I don't know.-
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Okay so read the case and get back to me on it?In post 607, Raya36 wrote:Alright, thanks. I read the last few pages on my phone last night which is apparently not a good idea because the only thing I remembered was to respond to you. My bad-
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Because then Heaven is a slot thats unresolved. If Junko flips town because we decide to flip her over Heaven, we’re back to where we’re started, and we didn’t get anything out of it.In post 610, gobbledygook wrote:
Why not just kill Junko then?In post 608, Captain the Furret wrote:Right now I am thinking that if Heaven flips town and if Allo flips scum, that the 2nd scum is Junko.
What do you think of this?
Heaven first, because that tells us what we should do next.
If its scum, we should lynch Looker or Pine, and we’ll probably win the game from lynching one of those 2.
If its town, then the gamestate is one that is favorable to scum, I feel like its most favorable to Allo, so we lynch Allo, and then if its town, okay, cool, we can decide what to do from there. If it flips scum, then now we know for sure that scum were in an advantage where the gamestate was super favorable for them, we lynch Junko, we probably win the game.-
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Here on mafiascum, scum and win by just not playingIn post 626, JunkoChan wrote:
I refuse to believe scum is just not playingIn post 623, gobbledygook wrote:Why does no one care about Looker? Why don’t you think Looker is scum?
VOTE: Heaven-
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whatIn post 654, Raya36 wrote:I don't like looking too deep into pre-flip associations but here's some quick thoughts of who I might want to look more into without actually going over the game again.
Scum!Heaven: Allo or Pineslot
Town!Heaven: Junko or Looker
I got completely different results then you and I am considering assocations.
How did you get these answers like
how did you get Allo being partners with Heaven? That doesn't make sense to me.-
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but no seriously, this guy is just scum.In post 682, Allomancer wrote:
I've scumread Furret from the first duel. It was always my intention to lynch Furret after Heaven.In post 679, gobbledygook wrote:Why Furret, Allo?-
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Like, I'm not sure how you can make this post and the your next post is immediately saying that Junko isn't explaining herself and thats not good.In post 511, Allomancer wrote:
That's what I've been sayingIn post 507, JunkoChan wrote:TBH at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Furret was a wolf
Like, this doesn't make sense to me.In post 530, Allomancer wrote:Junko is now a null read.
Not explaining your reads is not good, but it seems she might just be lazy. I don't know.-
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Like, REALLY take the time to think about this readlist.
To me it comes across as REALLY scummy with the Heaven townflip.
especially with his recent "my intent was to always lynch Furret after Heaven"-
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In post 520, JunkoChan wrote:
DerailingIn post 519, Captain the Furret wrote:Junko why do you think I’m scum
and no I won't explain, I don't negotiate with terrorists-
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with how defensive he's reacting and how I just want him to explain some of his reads and he's not really doing that, leanscum.
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Turkey, I've explained my gamestate read on Heaven and why I want to flip them a lot :/
Like, I have said a lot that I am interested in Heaven's flip because it gives me information about the game. If Heaven flips scum, I am thinking that scum is in the lurkers, because no one is defending them and everyone who is playing seems ok with lynching them, and if Heaven is scum, the game is just really easy. If Heaven flips town, I am going to look at people who seem like they are okay with the gamestate, and that suggests Allo to me.
You even asked me about this before.-
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LEGEND FOR ISO MAPS
+ working together with somebody, townreading them, defending them, buddying them, helping them, allying with them
- working against somebody, scumreading them, attacking them, pushing them, discrediting them
= neutral interactions, usually quoting somebody without either attacking or defending them, sometimes these are just interactions about setup spec or passing mentions of a slot, sometimes this is responding to a case someone made against you without making it clear whether you’re scumreading them in return or townreading them.
== stating explicitly that a person is a null read
? I didn’t understand this reaction. this modifies a previous symbol, so +? means “is this an interaction with a townread?” and -? means “is this an interaction with a scumread?” and +?-? means i have no clue what’s going on in that post.
v votes
u unvotes but only if someone says who they’re unvoting because i’m lazy
⌾ marks boundaries before duels (a duel was made after this post)
☾ ☀ marks boundaries between days. (if the thread isn't locked during the night then i use sun and moon both, otherwise i just pick one).
✝ a gravestone to mark that a slot has died.
r the slot they're talking about was replaced
R the slot I'm ISO mapping was replaced
_ conspicuous absences (a post that mentions almost everybody in the playerlist except one person)
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So, looking at this tells me that I'm not actually sure if Junko is buddies with Allo?
Like, I think Junko accusing me of derailing is points for them being buddies, but Allo's Junko Progression in general makes me feel like Allo is just scum.
Relooking this ISO, I feel like 511 is just buddying.
Madoka's 717 is a really nice catch, and in general, the progression on Junko seems really bad. You go from 284 and "wanting to investigate that later" (which he NEVER does btw, as soon as the duel ends he votes Heaven), to 480 and liking Junko's content, to 511 which is buddying, to 530 and 556? That just, doesn't make sense to me.-
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>Wants to push through Looker and wants me to concede my wagon
>Furret is trying to promote wagons and allowing people to pick between Looker and Allo since we have the time.
>Concedes his wagon to support mine
i meaaaaaaaaaaan, im confident in this flipping scum, so I'll take the support ig?
i didn't exactly mind you pushing Looker, I wanted people to chose between the two since that in general provides more data.
But sure, I'll take the support.-
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ik you posted some of your content, so I am assuming there's more to come, right?In post 710, Madoka wrote:In post 633, Raya36 wrote:Welcome to the game Madoka!Thank you, Raya
I am read up. My thoughts are aligned with Furret, I think the outlaws are Allo and Junko.
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