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Captain the Furret · Post Post #543 (isolation #200) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:54 am

I think I am just going to go to sleep.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #571 (isolation #201) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:30 pm

In post 548, gobbledygook wrote:What do you think of these posts from Allomancer?

I mean, in that first post, I did explain my read on bugs. That is something I did do.
Aside from the rest of them, I mean, I really don’t think there’s anything there that can’t be faked.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #572 (isolation #202) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:35 pm

So, do we want this duel to go on longer, or do we want the duel to end quicker?
I am probably going to put my vote on Heaven since that helps me read the game.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #573 (isolation #203) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:36 pm

In post 554, Looker wrote:
In post 551, Looker wrote:
S{Raya | Heaven | Junko | Allomancer | Pine | Gobble | Furret}T
S{Raya | Heaven : Junko | Allomancer | Pine | Gobble | Furret}T

Can you be even transparent with your reads?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #574 (isolation #204) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 2:39 pm

Raya what do you think of the current duel and Allo?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #577 (isolation #205) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:43 pm

I think she was most likely just bored out of her mind.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #578 (isolation #206) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:43 pm

aside from that
idunno

Captain the Furret · Post Post #579 (isolation #207) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 3:43 pm

don't really think its going to help me solve her alignment tbh.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #581 (isolation #208) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 4:17 pm

i meaaaaaaan
it would help if he was transparent with his reads.
That would really help me out when it comes to reading him and forming an opinion on him in general.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #583 (isolation #209) » Thu Mar 26, 2020 7:00 pm

Heaven helps a lot to understand the gamestate. I think if Heaven flips scum the game is just really easy and its probably one of {Pine, Looker}. If Heaven flips town, I think scum are okay with the gamestate and right now I feel like thats Allo.
Scum!Junko flip makes me think Allo is most likely their buddy since they accused me of derailing when I wanted to come out with a scumread on Allo. Town!Junko flip does not help me at all at.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #587 (isolation #210) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:20 am

quite frankly, to me, there's nothing to make sense of.
Like, I really feel like he needs to start being more transparent with his reads if he doesn't want to die here.
It is really weird to not be transparent about your reads when you are pushing a global TR, so I really hope he can help me with that one.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #588 (isolation #211) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 1:21 am

In post 586, Allomancer wrote:Conveniently Heaven disappears as soon as she's in a duel.

do you think its alignment indicative?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #590 (isolation #212) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:15 am

i rly wish you would have just let him answer :/

Captain the Furret · Post Post #592 (isolation #213) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:23 am

i meaaaaaaaan

Captain the Furret · Post Post #593 (isolation #214) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:23 am

we COULD save the mod the trouble if Heaven doesn't come back?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #594 (isolation #215) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:24 am

im actually really salty and angry at you that you just interupted my questioning like that

Captain the Furret · Post Post #596 (isolation #216) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:43 am

the reason I'm asking is because I feel like in 586, he's

suggesting

its alignment indicative by saying Heaven disappears.

if he answers yes, I point out that Heaven hasn't posted onsite and probably flaked. A lot of how I feel like he answers the question is where the answer could come alignment indicative.
if he answers no, he's not suggesting its alignment indicative, I move on. Tho it kind of does make me question why he made the post.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #598 (isolation #217) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:57 am

In post 597, Raya36 wrote:
In post 574, Captain the Furret wrote:Raya what do you think of the current duel and Allo?
Based on Junko's play I don't think her starting the duel is alignment indicative. I think I'd rather vote for Heaven and I think Heaven is most likely scum. My only concern is that there is absolutely no resistance to a Heaven lynch at this point. So either scum is not active or caring and scum!Heaven gave up or Heaven is easy mislynch bait and we're all falling for it.

Honestly I've been having trouble getting a read on Allo. Nothing screams scummy to me but also I haven't noticed anything particular that scum couldn't easily say. So a null read as of now.

So we agree about the gamestate and the duel. Thats good.
To me, Allo is someone who is really trying to stay under the radar.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #599 (isolation #218) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 2:58 am

Like, I actually think you having him as null, makes him a bit more likely that he’ll flip scum.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #602 (isolation #219) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:03 am

I really would like to find a replacement for Pineslot :/

Captain the Furret · Post Post #603 (isolation #220) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:05 am

I’ve been talking about this for the past few pages?

Are people just not reading my posts?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #604 (isolation #221) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:06 am

In post 513, Captain the Furret wrote:Actually with the dead air that was previously around when we were talking about Heaven
And how active the gamestate is becoming because I’m talking about the possibility of Allo being scum
VOTE: Allo
I’ll case it ig

In post 514, Captain the Furret wrote:
In post 126, Allomancer wrote:I don't see what's wrong with not acknowledging a vote. Maybe ey just didn't see it as important.
I honestly feel like this is convenient stance to take for the time. I was getting RVS wagoned because I didn’t react to Gobbles vote and Raya/Gobbles wanted me to. Like, this is probably overthinking it, but I kind of feel like this is kind of easy to fake.

—

In post 272, Allomancer wrote:The post you quoted as the motive was in no way scummy. Dueling this early in the game is foolish anyway; why not wait until we have more information.

I'm not sure that you're necessarily scum, but someone this impulsive is definitely just going to hurt town with more of these duels, so given that I'm not scumreading bug spray, you should lose this duel.
As scum, I feel like this is the best stance that scum would take here during this duel. Its easier to push the townie who lol dueled as a mislynch then the person they are dueling. Like, its a convenient stance.

Scum can just as easily say “Your duel is rash, and you did not have to duel Bugs”

—

In post 290, Allomancer wrote:
In post 159, Captain the Furret wrote:
In post 131, bugspray wrote:i agree its p sketch that alisae the furry furret is suddenly all vbiz and dropped the memes

i did that scumtell a few times in marathon games, the fe3h one comes to mind when i failbused datisi with a naked vote after previously ehavily rping brendata
like this comes across as just super scummy to me so I really want to kill it.
No explanation whatsoever.
It also feels weird here that this is what they jump to to say that I didn’t explain myself, when I explained myself all over that page. I didn’t think about it at first because I felt like they were just voting me because I loldueled, but this feels really weird if you think about it. Because I posted a lot on that page about bugs being scum and instead of looking at any that, he decides to quote this post and say I didn’t explain why I voted bugs.

—

In post 347, Allomancer wrote:also bugspray seems to be at L-1
I kind of feel like this is problematic and that I feel like he’s okay with the duel.
Like, if they feel like I should lose the duel, why does this post feel like they’re just sitting back and watching as it unfolds.

—

In post 382, Allomancer wrote:VOTE: Heaven

Why did you hammer that?
Also, something like Heaven’s vote is easy for scum to jump onto assuming Heaven is town. I don’t think this really needs to be stated but hey, I’m stating it anyways

In post 515, Captain the Furret wrote:Like, a lot of this ISO kind of really feels like it can be faked by anything.
Like yeah in the moment of the duel, Allo’s stance on the duel and Allo voting me felt townie.
But really thinking about it and looking back on it, it kind of just feels like “yeah, this is stuff that could be faked”

In post 518, Captain the Furret wrote:
In post 480, Allomancer wrote:{Raya}
{gobble, Junko}
{Pine}
{Looker, Furret}
{Heaven}
Like, I really just cannot feel okay with this readlist.
I feel like if Heaven flips town, I would want to look at Allo, and if Heaven flips scum, then the last is probably just in {Pine, Looker}

In post 484, Allomancer wrote:
In post 481, Raya36 wrote:Why do you have Junko so high? And reasoning for Looker?
Junko doesn't have a whole lot of content, but her recent posts do seem somewhat towny.
Looker just sort of pops in, and does post game-advancing comments, but then votes with no explanation for the vote. I haven't seen a single vote explained by Looker.
Like, the post that Junko makes about lurkers can definitely be faked, and her post on Heaven doesn’t add anything new. Like, most of us scumread Heaven and we all knew that.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #605 (isolation #222) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:08 am

In post 530, Allomancer wrote:Junko is now a null read.
Not explaining your reads is not good, but it seems she might just be lazy. I don't know.

There’s also this that doesn’t really make that much sense considering Junko didn’t explain a read on bugs either, but Allo never mentions that?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #608 (isolation #223) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:16 am

Right now I am thinking that if Heaven flips town and if Allo flips scum, that the 2nd scum is Junko.
What do you think of this?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #609 (isolation #224) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:17 am

In post 607, Raya36 wrote:Alright, thanks. I read the last few pages on my phone last night which is apparently not a good idea because the only thing I remembered was to respond to you. My bad

Okay so read the case and get back to me on it?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #613 (isolation #225) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:25 am

In post 610, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 608, Captain the Furret wrote:Right now I am thinking that if Heaven flips town and if Allo flips scum, that the 2nd scum is Junko.
What do you think of this?
Why not just kill Junko then?

Because then Heaven is a slot thats unresolved. If Junko flips town because we decide to flip her over Heaven, we’re back to where we’re started, and we didn’t get anything out of it.

Heaven first, because that tells us what we should do next.
If its scum, we should lynch Looker or Pine, and we’ll probably win the game from lynching one of those 2.
If its town, then the gamestate is one that is favorable to scum, I feel like its most favorable to Allo, so we lynch Allo, and then if its town, okay, cool, we can decide what to do from there. If it flips scum, then now we know for sure that scum were in an advantage where the gamestate was super favorable for them, we lynch Junko, we probably win the game.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #614 (isolation #226) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 3:27 am

I am probably going to vote Heaven if they are getting replaced, but I will wait for them to come back at least.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #628 (isolation #227) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:52 pm

VOTE: heaven

Captain the Furret · Post Post #629 (isolation #228) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:53 pm

In post 626, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 623, gobbledygook wrote:Why does no one care about Looker? Why don’t you think Looker is scum?

VOTE: Heaven
I refuse to believe scum is just not playing

Here on mafiascum, scum and win by just not playing

Captain the Furret · Post Post #630 (isolation #229) » Fri Mar 27, 2020 5:54 pm

really wish pineslot is replaced quicker
like it feels like we have to lynch off lurker slots and thats gonna suuuuuuck if we have to do that.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #635 (isolation #230) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 2:22 am

Why do u scumread Raya

Captain the Furret · Post Post #640 (isolation #231) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:04 am

PLEASE

Captain the Furret · Post Post #642 (isolation #232) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:11 am

I would really like it if he explained himself

Captain the Furret · Post Post #643 (isolation #233) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:12 am

Like its so simple
no need to be defensive about it
Just
Explain your reads

Captain the Furret · Post Post #644 (isolation #234) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:12 am

How is that hard?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #646 (isolation #235) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:42 am

Captain the Furret · Post Post #648 (isolation #236) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:46 am

I want to see the flip so I know who to kill

Captain the Furret · Post Post #650 (isolation #237) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 3:52 am

Captain the Furret · Post Post #686 (isolation #238) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:07 pm

In post 654, Raya36 wrote:I don't like looking too deep into pre-flip associations but here's some quick thoughts of who I might want to look more into without actually going over the game again.

Scum!Heaven: Allo or Pineslot
Town!Heaven: Junko or Looker

what
I got completely different results then you and I am considering assocations.
How did you get these answers like
how did you get Allo being partners with Heaven? That doesn't make sense to me.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #687 (isolation #239) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:10 pm

In post 680, Looker wrote:I have.

Where?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #688 (isolation #240) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:11 pm

VOTE: Allo
OMGUS

Captain the Furret · Post Post #689 (isolation #241) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:13 pm

In post 682, Allomancer wrote:
In post 679, gobbledygook wrote:Why Furret, Allo?
I've scumread Furret from the first duel. It was always my intention to lynch Furret after Heaven.

but no seriously, this guy is just scum.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #690 (isolation #242) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:13 pm

Turkey why do you think Looker and Allo are likely buddies?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #691 (isolation #243) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:28 pm

Like, I'm not sure how you can make this post and the your next post is immediately saying that Junko isn't explaining herself and thats not good.

In post 511, Allomancer wrote:
In post 507, JunkoChan wrote:TBH at this point I wouldn't be surprised if Furret was a wolf
That's what I've been saying

In post 530, Allomancer wrote:Junko is now a null read.
Not explaining your reads is not good, but it seems she might just be lazy. I don't know.

Like, this doesn't make sense to me.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #692 (isolation #244) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:30 pm

In post 480, Allomancer wrote:{Raya}
{gobble, Junko}
{Pine}
{Looker, Furret}
{Heaven}

Like, REALLY take the time to think about this readlist.
To me it comes across as REALLY scummy with the Heaven townflip.
especially with his recent "my intent was to always lynch Furret after Heaven"

Captain the Furret · Post Post #695 (isolation #245) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:48 pm

Orange: Because that readlist reflects the gamestate at that moment perfectly. The readlist itself feels very political to make and I feel like Heaven's flip shows that.
Purple: To me, it just feels like he's just goin from one thing to the next with no evaluation.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #696 (isolation #246) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:52 pm

Turkey, I feel like Junko is a better partner for Allo then Looker, mostly because Junko accused me of derailing Heaven when I suggested that Allo was scum.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #697 (isolation #247) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:53 pm

In post 520, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 519, Captain the Furret wrote:Junko why do you think I’m scum
Derailing

and no I won't explain, I don't negotiate with terrorists

Captain the Furret · Post Post #698 (isolation #248) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 4:54 pm

That was when I was pushing Allo.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #701 (isolation #249) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:05 pm

Because if Heaven flips scum then I would probably just start lynching in the lurkers.
Heaven as scum only makes sense to me if scum are just not playing the game and not defending them.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #702 (isolation #250) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:06 pm

In post 700, gobbledygook wrote:What
is
your opinion about Looker?

with how defensive he's reacting and how I just want him to explain some of his reads and he's not really doing that, leanscum.
I think Allo is way more scummy tho.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #703 (isolation #251) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:09 pm

Turkey, I've explained my gamestate read on Heaven and why I want to flip them a lot :/
Like, I have said a lot that I am interested in Heaven's flip because it gives me information about the game. If Heaven flips scum, I am thinking that scum is in the lurkers, because no one is defending them and everyone who is playing seems ok with lynching them, and if Heaven is scum, the game is just really easy. If Heaven flips town, I am going to look at people who seem like they are okay with the gamestate, and that suggests Allo to me.

You even asked me about this before.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #705 (isolation #252) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:14 pm

its too early to concede my push atm.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #706 (isolation #253) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:17 pm

Like, we have 5 days of gameplay left. I see no reason to concede my push atm.
We have the time to allow people to choose who they want between Allo and Looker or for someone to try to suggest a different wagon and those wagons don't suit anyone's fancy.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #707 (isolation #254) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 5:27 pm

Like, if there's anything I learned from Titus in AvT, its that we should allow wagons to form and allow people to pick between them.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #718 (isolation #255) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:01 pm

LEGEND FOR ISO MAPS

+ working together with somebody, townreading them, defending them, buddying them, helping them, allying with them
- working against somebody, scumreading them, attacking them, pushing them, discrediting them
= neutral interactions, usually quoting somebody without either attacking or defending them, sometimes these are just interactions about setup spec or passing mentions of a slot, sometimes this is responding to a case someone made against you without making it clear whether you’re scumreading them in return or townreading them.
== stating explicitly that a person is a null read
? I didn’t understand this reaction. this modifies a previous symbol, so +? means “is this an interaction with a townread?” and -? means “is this an interaction with a scumread?” and +?-? means i have no clue what’s going on in that post.
v votes
u unvotes but only if someone says who they’re unvoting because i’m lazy
⌾ marks boundaries before duels (a duel was made after this post)
☾ ☀ marks boundaries between days. (if the thread isn't locked during the night then i use sun and moon both, otherwise i just pick one).
✝ a gravestone to mark that a slot has died.
r the slot they're talking about was replaced
R the slot I'm ISO mapping was replaced
_ conspicuous absences (a post that mentions almost everybody in the playerlist except one person)
k dayvig (real or fake)

Captain the Furret · Post Post #719 (isolation #256) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:02 pm

Allomancer 682

Madoka/Pine

480==

gobbledygook

284= ☀ 480+ ⌾

Raya36

480+ 484= ⌾

Looker

384= 385+?-? 480- 484- ⌾

JunkoChan

35= ⌾ 284- ☀ 480+ 484+ 486+ 491+ 492+?-? 511+ 530== ⌾ 556- 559?+?-

Captain The Furret/Alisae

126+ ⌾ 268-v 272- 283- 288- 290- 294- 297- 301- 304- 307+- 310?- ☀ 480- 511- ⌾ 682-

Bugspray

12v ⌾ 297+ 301+ 304+ 307+- 310?+ 346- 347= ✝

Heaven

87= ⌾ 346?+ ☀ 382-v 480- ⌾ 557v 559?- 586?- 638= ✝

Captain the Furret · Post Post #720 (isolation #257) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:10 pm

So, looking at this tells me that I'm not actually sure if Junko is buddies with Allo?
Like, I think Junko accusing me of derailing is points for them being buddies, but Allo's Junko Progression in general makes me feel like Allo is just scum.
Relooking this ISO, I feel like 511 is just buddying.

Madoka's 717 is a really nice catch, and in general, the progression on Junko seems really bad. You go from 284 and "wanting to investigate that later" (which he NEVER does btw, as soon as the duel ends he votes Heaven), to 480 and liking Junko's content, to 511 which is buddying, to 530 and 556? That just, doesn't make sense to me.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #721 (isolation #258) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:16 pm

In post 708, gobbledygook wrote:Fair enough.

VOTE: Allomancer

>Wants to push through Looker and wants me to concede my wagon
>Furret is trying to promote wagons and allowing people to pick between Looker and Allo since we have the time.
>Concedes his wagon to support mine

i meaaaaaaaaaaan, im confident in this flipping scum, so I'll take the support ig?
i didn't exactly mind you pushing Looker, I wanted people to chose between the two since that in general provides more data.
But sure, I'll take the support.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #722 (isolation #259) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:17 pm

In post 710, Madoka wrote:
In post 633, Raya36 wrote:Welcome to the game Madoka!

Thank you, Raya

I am read up. My thoughts are aligned with Furret, I think the outlaws are Allo and Junko.

ik you posted some of your content, so I am assuming there's more to come, right?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #723 (isolation #260) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:17 pm

In post 715, Madoka wrote:
Does anyone here use a layout other than mafiablack? It just occurred to me that others might use layouts where my text may be difficult to see.

On my main I use Sepia so on Sepia, its rather difficult to see.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #726 (isolation #261) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:21 pm

In post 714, Madoka wrote:If you are aware that you are innacurate early game, don't you think your confidence is anti-town and something that should be corrected?

honest answer: I'm not exactly sure how to correct it because when I form scumreads, most of the time I usually always believe that they will flip scum. I believe in my read, and I want to be right with my read, because feeling correct feels good to me, therefore, I am confident in my reads. Basically, it comes from the desire to be really good at the game.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #728 (isolation #262) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:30 pm

no preference as long as it has a

tag.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #729 (isolation #263) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:30 pm

wait
misread lmao
no not really, I like this catch up so far so I'm just interested to see more

Captain the Furret · Post Post #730 (isolation #264) » Sat Mar 28, 2020 8:31 pm

i thought 728 was about colors

Captain the Furret · Post Post #734 (isolation #265) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:46 am

Looker can you tell me which posts that are there aren’t Allos?
I’ll try to fix it.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #735 (isolation #266) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 1:48 am

In post 733, Looker wrote:I don't know what to think of this

is it possible you can elaborate on this?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #738 (isolation #267) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:33 am

In post 737, Madoka wrote:
In post 731, gobbledygook wrote:Why did you only ask Captain the Furret and myself questions?

You're the only players I had questions for. Why did you vote Allo and not Looker before?

wait really?
Something I noticed is that they’re all mostly very early game posts, like pre-bugs duel I think?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #739 (isolation #268) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 3:34 am

Ok some pre-bugs duel some during bugs duel

Captain the Furret · Post Post #747 (isolation #269) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 4:58 am

TRUE tbh

Captain the Furret · Post Post #763 (isolation #270) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:07 pm

Did someone call for
Captain the Furret?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #764 (isolation #271) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:09 pm

Not a furry btw

Captain the Furret · Post Post #766 (isolation #272) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:14 pm

I refresh MS every 30 seconds

Captain the Furret · Post Post #767 (isolation #273) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:16 pm

And I’m not exactly doing anything atm so...

Captain the Furret · Post Post #769 (isolation #274) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:28 pm

HONESTLY
I’m losing my patience for it

Captain the Furret · Post Post #770 (isolation #275) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:28 pm

Raya
Madoka
Gobbles
Junko
Looker Allo

Captain the Furret · Post Post #771 (isolation #276) » Sun Mar 29, 2020 5:29 pm

I’m actually the same place where you are atm, where we both see Looker and Allo on the same team.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #784 (isolation #277) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:55 am

So what, is the team just Gobbles, Allo?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #785 (isolation #278) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 3:56 am

Like idunno, seems like a weird time to suddenly come out with this.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #787 (isolation #279) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:01 am

Like, why are you so afraid of Allo getting lynched?
Like, you really seem to NOT be into Allo being scum, so I’m wondering if they’re just your buddy and you need to do something and start doing something NOW because otherwise you’re just fucked?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #790 (isolation #280) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:02 am

Okay but Allo is literally not interacting with the game at this point

Captain the Furret · Post Post #791 (isolation #281) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:03 am

Like, Looker and Allo are doing the both same fucking thing.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #792 (isolation #282) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:04 am

Like, now I REALLY think Allo just flips scum here. He HAS To flip scum.
Gobbles going at me right now just makes no sense

Captain the Furret · Post Post #794 (isolation #283) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:05 am

Like, I’m trying to rationalize this, and atm I’m having a somewhat of a hard time.
Like, I’m really trying to think this through
Is it as easy as Looker and Allo? I really hope it is.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #795 (isolation #284) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:06 am

In post 788, Madoka wrote:I doubt it's Gobbles and Allo. Allo would make an effort to defend himself if Gobbles was going to try and save him. Otherwise, he would just be putting himself out there for a low payout. If scum!Gobbles succeeded in mislynching Looker it would incriminate both him and Allo so there would be no point.

I think you’re right, its not both.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #797 (isolation #285) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:07 am

I do think if Allo flips scum, the game is just as easy as Allo -> Looker and me and Gobbles are just tearing our heads apart like fucking cut off chickens

Captain the Furret · Post Post #798 (isolation #286) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:08 am

In post 796, Allomancer wrote:
In post 783, gobbledygook wrote:Allomancer, could you please vote Looker.
Let's hold off on this. I still think Furret is more likely to be scum than Looker.

HONESTLY
ALLO AND LOOKER ARE THE FUCKING TEAM
WE LYNCH ALLO
ALLO FLIPS SCUM
LYNCH LOOKER
WOW GG EZ

Captain the Furret · Post Post #799 (isolation #287) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:09 am

In post 793, Madoka wrote:I suspect the answer might be that it's Gobbles & Looker. And Gobbles is preparing for a Furret mislynch after an Allo mislynch.

I think Looker can be paired with both Allo and Gobbles.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #803 (isolation #288) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:14 am

UNVOTE:

Captain the Furret · Post Post #804 (isolation #289) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:15 am

In post 802, Allomancer wrote:
In post 800, Madoka wrote:I agree, so I think I prefer going Looker first.

UNVOTE:

While we think it over.
You think we should lynch Looker first so your move is to... unvote Looker?

HONESTLY
WHY CAN’T WE JUST KILL ALLO

Like
HES SO SCUMMY

Captain the Furret · Post Post #808 (isolation #290) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:18 am

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=78670&user_select%5B%5D=28849
Actually look at this ISO if you think Allo is town here

In this game he engages with the town SIGNIFICANTLY more then here, and his reads actually develop and CHANGE.

His play here is way more frozen and in general so much more scummy

Captain the Furret · Post Post #809 (isolation #291) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:18 am

In post 807, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 797, Captain the Furret wrote:I do think if Allo flips scum, the game is just as easy as Allo -> Looker and me and Gobbles are just tearing our heads apart like fucking cut off chickens

In post 786, Madoka wrote:
In post 782, gobbledygook wrote:I was saying the Allomancer stuff to try to convince Captain the Furret to bus his buddy
Can you elaborate on this? What Allomancer stuff are you referring to?
Me saying Allo + Looker are buddies together. I was trying to get Furret to concede the Allo push and vote Looker with me by saying they are buddies so it doesn’t matter what order we get them.

Re: other question - I didn’t mean to include 646, 644 is Furret saying in the abstract “[Looker] explaining reads isn’t that hard”

I think if Allo is scum, Furret’s point about me and e going at it like chickens is probably correct. The same phenomenon happened in TM2020 Whiteflag where the scum lurked and town just ate itself alive.

Dude, I’m literally just trying to solve the game

Captain the Furret · Post Post #811 (isolation #292) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:20 am

Like, I think its more likely Allo Looker then Looker You because that just makes more sense.
It just makes significantly more sense that we’re just going at each other

Captain the Furret · Post Post #813 (isolation #293) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:23 am

In post 810, gobbledygook wrote:I wouldn’t bus Looker this extensively. I would also have loldueled someone

If I was actually scum with Looker, I would actually just concede.
I NEED a team to play scum. I CANNOT solo carry games as scum. And if I was actually scum with him and he was playing like this, I actually just go insane and lose my shit.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #814 (isolation #294) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:23 am

In post 812, gobbledygook wrote:If Allo is scum, his buddies are probably in {Looker, Raya}

Raya is just not scum this game I just really can’t swallow that right now

Captain the Furret · Post Post #816 (isolation #295) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:27 am

I don’t think I would be in this game if I was scum with looker and he was playing like this.
Like, I don’t think I would bother investing the time to play a scumgame that was literally unwinnable.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #818 (isolation #296) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:28 am

I learned my fucking lesson from AvT.
You cannot win scumgames if the scumteam does not want to play scum.
It is literally impossible unless town is just significantly worse.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #820 (isolation #297) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:29 am

I just want to lynch Allo.
He just has to be scum at this point.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #821 (isolation #298) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:30 am

In post 819, gobbledygook wrote:
In post 816, Captain the Furret wrote:I don’t think I would be in this game if I was scum with looker and he was playing like this.
Like, I don’t think I would bother investing the time to play a scumgame that was literally unwinnable.
I mean game seems very much winnable for a Looker scum team right now. Even if he goes down tomorrow starts with 4v1 with very lynchable slots all around the board.

A. Not if were both town
B. For me personally, not really? I’ve played so many scumgames where I was forced to be the carry and I think I lost nearly all of them. I cannot be the carry.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #824 (isolation #299) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:33 am

In post 823, Allomancer wrote:
In post 808, Captain the Furret wrote:viewtopic.php?f=56&t=78670&user_select%5B%5D=28849
Actually look at this ISO if you think Allo is town here

In this game he engages with the town SIGNIFICANTLY more then here, and his reads actually develop and CHANGE.

His play here is way more frozen and in general so much more scummy
It's funny because in the game, at one point I mentioned something about reading you and you responded with something along the lines of "It's called apathy".
I'd point out that I hadn't played mafia for about a year until very recently. I still find it difficult to dedicate myself the way I used to. Maybe consider that.

How about you RESPOND TO MY FUCKING CASES

Captain the Furret · Post Post #825 (isolation #300) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:34 am

OH WAIT
NO YOU DON’T WANT TO ENGAGE WITH ME OR ANY FUCKING CONTENT I MADE

AND GUESS WHO DOES THAT
YOU WANNA KNOW WHO DOES THAT

SCUM

BECAUSE IF YOU ENGAGED WITH ANY OF THE CONTENT I POSTED, LITERALLY ANY OF THAT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THAT BY YOUR STANDARDS, WHICH ARE PRETTY FUCKING LOW CONSIDERING YOUR JUNKO PROGRESSION AND THAT READ IN GENERAL, I WOULD BE A TOWNREAD.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #827 (isolation #301) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:36 am

I haven’t slept yet.
Sorry.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #828 (isolation #302) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:36 am

I’m having a really hard time containing my frustration and excitement atm.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #829 (isolation #303) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:37 am

Like, I really think its just Allo Looker it has to be just that easy.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #832 (isolation #304) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:39 am

In post 831, Allomancer wrote:
In post 829, Captain the Furret wrote:Like, I really think its just Allo Looker it has to be just that easy.
I'm almost tempted to self-vote just to prove you wrong.

Oh, so I’m town now?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #834 (isolation #305) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:40 am

That doesn’t make any sense unless u think I’m town?
Like, for you to want to prove me wrong, you have to believe that I am town who is just doing the best they can to scumhunt and be right.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #835 (isolation #306) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:41 am

Like, I don’t get how you want to prove me wrong but also think I’m scum?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #837 (isolation #307) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 4:43 am

Like, am I going crazy from staying up all night or does what I’m trying to describe just make sense to anyone?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #857 (isolation #308) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:43 pm

In post 848, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 847, Madoka wrote:Is the bump feature new? I haven't seen it before.
I think it's new

nah, thats been around for years

Captain the Furret · Post Post #858 (isolation #309) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 2:45 pm

Madoka I'll revote whenever ur ready to end.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #859 (isolation #310) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:18 pm

actually
now that I think about it
something comes to my mind

Captain the Furret · Post Post #860 (isolation #311) » Mon Mar 30, 2020 6:18 pm

In post 378, JunkoChan wrote:I'll give my general view of the game once Pine joins or we are at T -1 day

Alright Junko, your general view on the game is due now.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #864 (isolation #312) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:34 am

I want the hammer,
It feels good to kill scum with my bare hands.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #882 (isolation #313) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 9:41 am

o7
VOTE: allo
boom bye scum

Captain the Furret · Post Post #895 (isolation #314) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:51 pm

@Junko thoughts?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #897 (isolation #315) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 1:55 pm

Why Raya?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #905 (isolation #316) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:39 pm

In post 900, Raya36 wrote:I'm starting to think it's Furret. Wouldn't Furret be the more obvious nightkill for scum if she's town considering she is one of the more vocal players?

I think the Gobbles kill was a kill that was intended to shade me.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #907 (isolation #317) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:50 pm

I mean
There’s a way to check but let’s let everyone check in first.

Raya, i know you want to reconsider, but before you reconsider, is there any other reads you have currently?
I’m asking because I want you to establish what ur currently thinking before you reconsider then afterwards to try to see if I can follow your thought processes when you eventually do re-consider

Captain the Furret · Post Post #913 (isolation #318) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:00 am

Meanwhile, in the Raya Reconsidering Room

Captain the Furret · Post Post #914 (isolation #319) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:01 am

I meant to say waiting room
but ok

Captain the Furret · Post Post #916 (isolation #320) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:04 am

I can walc all day

Captain the Furret · Post Post #919 (isolation #321) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:31 pm

let me go get the posts

Captain the Furret · Post Post #920 (isolation #322) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 5:38 pm

In post 167, Raya36 wrote:
In post 162, Captain the Furret wrote:I push strong reads early, even with the knowledge that they might be wrong, because I feel confident that they're going to flip scum.
So you're saying you know you might be wrong. And Gobble is right, you did say you're early town game was weak. So if you're town shouldn't this be the worst possible thing you could do?

In post 179, Raya36 wrote:But why would you choose to duel over just pushing?

Say you die from this duel. We have no proof from that that bugs is likely scum. Which is what you're trying to prove to us?

In post 182, Raya36 wrote:And for clarification by no proof I mean no more proof than pushing would give to make a duel worth the risk

In post 186, Raya36 wrote:I'm trying to understand where your confidence comes from when you claim to struggle with early reads

In post 201, Raya36 wrote:Ok. I'm generally liking the attitude now.

I'll vote here
VOTE: bugs

In general, I like this interaction. Mostly because it felt like she was trying to sort me here and she tried to understand my motivations and actions.

In post 618, Raya36 wrote:I'm honestly at the point where I'm starting to think Heaven is going to flip town. Unless she's scum and her partner is either Looker (who hasn't said much) or Pine then I don't understand why nobody is resisting.

And this is a thought that I had as well.

In post 645, Raya36 wrote:Shouldn't we wait to see if we get anything new out of Heaven's replacement?

Does scum really wait for the replacement here?

Anyhow, thats just a few things I could really point because in general, the whole ISO just seemed in general town mostly because a lot of what I see in this ISO is investigating, asking questions, trying to figure out the motivations of other players.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #922 (isolation #323) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:12 pm

i mean, i was quite shocked when as soon as I posted I was in the Raya Reconsidering Waiting Room, they posted.
Aside from that, I'm moreso just waiting for someone to make a move. Someone has to

Captain the Furret · Post Post #928 (isolation #324) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:28 pm

In post 926, Madoka wrote:I think the first step should be to avoid providing scum the ability to alpha strike.

i kind of want to see who makes a move

Captain the Furret · Post Post #929 (isolation #325) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:29 pm

guess thats not gonna happen now

Captain the Furret · Post Post #932 (isolation #326) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:32 pm

You want to deny scum to make a move.
I see why you would want that, however, seeing how does make a move and on who is also information.

Either way, I'm not opposed to it.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #934 (isolation #327) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:34 pm

atm I'm playing fairly reactively because I want to see if scum does anything.
I strongly believe that scum make the first move in LyLo scenarios.

pedit: I wanted to see what were the conclusions she reached

Captain the Furret · Post Post #936 (isolation #328) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 6:36 pm

ah ok, I thought you meant make a move.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #941 (isolation #329) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:18 pm

In post 939, Madoka wrote:
In post 319, Captain the Furret wrote:I would like to sleep but also I fear that if I went to sleep, I’ll just get lolhammered before I can get anything out.

Pedit: Because its weird. She’s not talking about her reads but thats the only thing thats bad atm? I feel like if she’s just trying to pocket me, I can kind of figure that out with the help of some flips. Like, if you had to put a gun to my head, I would say town, because my experience with Junko tells me that I think she would explain herself if she was scum. Also she likes playing scum more then she likes playing town. I’m just really not sure at the moment and I feel like a flip would help me, because if Bugs does flip scum, this is a weird bus. If bugs flips town, then she seems scummy and could be pocketing me, but also I just straight up feel like Junko as scum would explain herself here.
What made you feel she was trying to pocket you and what happened to this?

She voted bugs and positioned herself around allying with me.
What happened is she spent a whole day where she got away with not explaining much.
This was written on the basis that eventually, she would explain herself a bit more, and she never really did that. Even when I asked her for stuff at EoD yesterday, she only really gave me reads. Nothing to really help read her.
Also, right now, I’m not sure what to make of her attitude when she says we’re doomed when she’s completely lynchable, every knows it, and she’s not doing anything about it.
Like, I really don’t believe in to scummy to be scum. And even if I did, its not something I would say applies to Junko.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #942 (isolation #330) » Fri Apr 03, 2020 7:24 pm

Like, I think if Junko was scum and had the opportunity to just let town kill itself while doing as little as possible, she would just take it

Captain the Furret · Post Post #951 (isolation #331) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:26 pm

madoka is posting content
raya isn't

Captain the Furret · Post Post #952 (isolation #332) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:26 pm

and we have 1 day and 20 hours left

Captain the Furret · Post Post #959 (isolation #333) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:31 pm

Meanwhile, in the Raya waiting room

Captain the Furret · Post Post #961 (isolation #334) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:32 pm

In post 957, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 953, Madoka wrote:What are your various personas? personae?
I have an anti-meta reads multipersona gameplay rather than an specific playstyle for scum/town

I can play the way I did this game as town or scum and you wouldn't tell the difference, so when people ask for my previous games to meta read me they just get trolled

I got like 4 playstyles and I just pick one as either aligment

I HOWL'D

Captain the Furret · Post Post #966 (isolation #335) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:34 pm

Junko, why are you so confident in me being town?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #969 (isolation #336) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:36 pm

oh.
im high

Captain the Furret · Post Post #970 (isolation #337) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:37 pm

honestly
I should be going back to making sure I can send out role pms for my hydra game.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #972 (isolation #338) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:38 pm

gun to my head junko

Captain the Furret · Post Post #974 (isolation #339) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:39 pm

I need to think of who her partner might be when I'm not high as shit

Captain the Furret · Post Post #975 (isolation #340) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:40 pm

I can interpret this action
just not right now
please

Captain the Furret · Post Post #977 (isolation #341) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:41 pm

I actually would have liked the Junko Raya duel and I see a ton of motivation behind voting Raya first if they're both partners.

Captain the Furret · Post Post #978 (isolation #342) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:43 pm

In post 976, Madoka wrote:Ok because it seemed like you slipped having the perspective that Junko is town here:
In post 951, Captain the Furret wrote:madoka is posting content
raya isn't

from my pov
i do not think u are scum.
its one of {Junko, raya}
and probably looker

You are posting content
Raya is not

You're likely more town then Raya because of that tbh, you're activing trying to solve the game and I haven't seen anything from Raya yet and I kind of feel like she's stalling on me?

Captain the Furret · Post Post #981 (isolation #343) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:47 pm

what about Raya?
She could do it

Captain the Furret · Post Post #985 (isolation #344) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:48 pm

Someone will want to flip my slot eventually with all of the bullshit that happened in this game.
You bus
looker is lynched quickly
raya madoka me f3 and thats not looking for me in that scenario

Captain the Furret · Post Post #987 (isolation #345) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:50 pm

In post 984, Madoka wrote:
In post 978, Captain the Furret wrote:its one of {Junko, raya}
and probably looker
Also what happened to 977?

that was from the prespective that I wrote that in
so when I wrote that, that was what I was thinking

Captain the Furret · Post Post #988 (isolation #346) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:50 pm

In post 986, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 985, Captain the Furret wrote:Someone will want to flip my slot eventually with all of the bullshit that happened in this game.
You bus
looker is lynched quickly
raya madoka me f3 and thats not looking for me in that scenario
if I "bus" looker how am I not in last 3?

I'm assuming you duel raya since you first initiated there in that scenario

Captain the Furret · Post Post #989 (isolation #347) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:52 pm

I DON'T FUCKING KNOW RIGHT NOW

Captain the Furret · Post Post #991 (isolation #348) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:52 pm

i am high as shit
i cannot think coherently right now

Captain the Furret · Post Post #992 (isolation #349) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:53 pm

i am just going to leave the thread and you will have to deal with it Madoka I'm sorry I can't do this right now

Captain the Furret · Post Post #993 (isolation #350) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:54 pm

i think i have an addiction

Captain the Furret · Post Post #995 (isolation #351) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:55 pm

yeah
i have an addiction
I'm starting to feel like I need to rely on it and this is starting to cause problems

Captain the Furret · Post Post #996 (isolation #352) » Sat Apr 04, 2020 4:55 pm

sorry I'll actually go now

Captain the Furret · Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:49 pm

Ok hi
I took a bath
I tried to relax calm down
I am still kind of hyperventilating but I am relaxed, and I feel like I can think.

So I am going to just start doing work, because thats kind of what I need to do right now.

Captain the Furret · Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:52 pm

In post 14, Looker wrote:Heaven / Captain the Furret / Pine

VOTE: Heaven

ZZAA

In post 180, Looker wrote:
In post 16, Raya36 wrote:
In post 14, Looker wrote:Heaven / Captain the Furret / Pine

VOTE: Heaven
Why vote for someone who hasn't picked up their role pm?
I saw no legitimate alternatives. I also wasn't tracking that they hadn't posted in your scum pt.
VOTE: Raya36

In post 52, Captain the Furret wrote:
In post 49, JunkoChan wrote:This Alisae roleplaying really tickles my Junko persona
In post 139, Captain the Furret wrote:
In post 131, bugspray wrote:peidt: i agree its p sketch that alisae the furry furret is suddenly all vbiz and dropped the memes
HURT: Bugspray
This slot is dangerous.
In post 143, Heaven wrote:This is a pretty decent duel, actually. Least
'ts
not on any of my townreads.
Is there a story behind your conjunction use?
In post 152, bugspray wrote:oh cool well dont kill anyone yet kthx im basically choosing to ignore furret becasuse that slot baciaclly luldueld me

looker can u tell us whats up?
What's the viability of running out the duel clock with no votes?

Where is Pine?

In post 328, Looker wrote:
In post 206, Heaven wrote:By the way, I feel like calling out the mod here. This version of the setup where it's max two duels a day isn't actually the version from the wiki, it's a rule modification made by the last guy to run the setup. He just copy pasted the rules.
Would you prefer more duels?
In post 217, bugspray wrote:Where is pine?
Agreed.
In post 256, bugspray wrote:i will never scum hunt again because apparently trying to scumhunt just gets me killed
This game aside, that shit fucking sucks.

I feel like starting a duel this early was idiotic.
I think it's stupid to say you're forcing people to be readable - people can lurk just as easily with two options as they can with eight. Case in point, Pine.
And you can't blame gobbledygook for voting when
you started the fucking duel

The shitty part is that horrible players aren't necessarily scummy players
I was suspicious of Raya and bugspray before this, so
VOTE: bugspray
Tie it up.

In post 383, Looker wrote:
In post 346, Allomancer wrote:Those posts linking to another topic is really suspicious, but maybe I've just spent too much time reading the "funniest scumslips" thread.
What do improper links imply?
In post 363, JunkoChan wrote:Can I lolduel now?
In post 378, JunkoChan wrote:I'll give my general view of the game once Pine joins or we are at T -1 day
Please no more duels unless you're confident your opponent is scum, and we should have Pine replaced before moving into night if he doesn't contribute.

I feel like, unless democratically chosen, dueling is more beneficial to scum. We, as a whole, need to leash this dueling mechanic. We can get two consensus lynches instead of one.
VOTE: Raya36

In post 551, Looker wrote:
@gobble: To see who comes to his defense. What does "bad" mean? Are you calling me scum or stupid?

S{Raya | Heaven | Junko | Allomancer | Pine | Gobble | Furret}T

I think it's a mistake to ignore Pine. I did that recently and he flipped scum. He flipped town in another game, but ignoring him isn't a good idea

I just realized that all of these recipes are
FUCKING RIDICULOUS

I don't want to insult anybody's play, but I find it really difficult to have confidence in your "reads". Even mine are admittedly personality bias

Why another duel?
VOTE: Heaven

In post 563, Looker wrote:VOTE: JunkoChan

In post 680, Looker wrote:
In post 635, Captain the Furret wrote:Why do u scumread Raya
Voting pattern and people townreading her for no reason.
In post 642, Captain the Furret wrote:I would really like it if he explained himself
I have. I feel my explanations not going to the depth you and Gobble would like is meant to discourage me from voting. It won't. We've had two lolduels that have killed two townies, but my play is called into question. This playerlist won't be a blow to my ego.
In post 666, JunkoChan wrote:
In post 658, Heaven wrote:Man, that's so stupid.
It's a habit
What's a habit?
In post 678, Allomancer wrote:Damn. I really thought Heaven would be scum.

VOTE: Furret but I'm okay with lynching Looker as well if need be.
I feel we're on opposite sides of the table.
S{Raya | Allo | Junko |
Pine
Madoka | Ferret | Gobble}T

@Raya:
Bugs wasn't at L-1 when you unvoted. The next two posts after your unvote were both votecounts.
I'm very active.

@Gobble:
Why would I relinquish my opinion to consensus? My vote counts just as much as anyone else's, whether they disagree or not.
You compared me to Allomancer and said that he was playing better than me
I see no concrete reason why you would believe Raya is town. You saying she's a universal townread is suspicious to me.
How am I flying under the radar when I'm constantly putting my vote and opinion out there? I've been pretty consistent with my reads and behavior. Also, conjecture: You're not guaranteed town, so this "if I die" talk is irrelevant
VOTE: Raya36

In post 853, Looker wrote:
In post 734, Captain the Furret wrote:Looker can you tell me which posts that are there aren’t Allos?
I’ll try to fix it.
I'm just an idiot and misread - I thought the posts beside my name were ones I'd posted. That's why I didn't know what to make of it.
In post 791, Captain the Furret wrote:Like, Looker and Allo are doing the both same fucking thing.
I'm confused. What are we doing?
In post 799, Captain the Furret wrote:I think Looker can be paired with both Allo and Gobbles.
I don't get the strategy if Gobble is scum. In both scenarios. Why would scum tunnel on a buddy and why would scum tunnel on a random player when there are more convenient lynches?
In post 825, Captain the Furret wrote:OH WAIT
NO YOU DON’T WANT TO ENGAGE WITH ME OR ANY FUCKING CONTENT I MADE

AND GUESS WHO DOES THAT
YOU WANNA KNOW WHO DOES THAT

SCUM

BECAUSE IF YOU ENGAGED WITH ANY OF THE CONTENT I POSTED, LITERALLY ANY OF THAT, THEN YOU WOULD HAVE TO ADMIT THAT BY YOUR STANDARDS, WHICH ARE PRETTY FUCKING LOW CONSIDERING YOUR JUNKO PROGRESSION AND THAT READ IN GENERAL, I WOULD BE A TOWNREAD.
The Furret is angry.
In post 831, Allomancer wrote:I'm almost tempted to self-vote just to prove you wrong.

Spoiler:
Poor play, regardless of alignment

It's kind of nice that more people than just Gobble are talking to me (or about me, rather).
@Gobble: Raya still hasn't put down a vote, by the way
Also, Allo said he wanted to kill Furret after the first duel but pursued Heaven instead. Haven died, so Allo's next up

Thanks for noticing my signature, Madoka; I appreciate it. Means nothing, but I'm not scum, lol.

Gobble's Looker-Furret case is 90% Furret is nicer to Looker and 10% Looker's an idiot. I stay on Raya and you say I'm scum, but I allow my feelings to evolve and you say that's scummy, too.

@Madoka: Is your defense of Gobble "Gobble wouldn't be so stupid as to mislynch Looker"?

@Gobble: You're not allowed to say that Raya is scum
VOTE: Allomancer

In post 898, Looker wrote:
In post 880, Madoka wrote:It's mainly their progression on Allo. It doesn't seem genuine.
That's a vague accusation, but it sounds like you were expecting me to telegraph my scumread of Allomancer to Allomancer. He would've just changed behaviors at that point.
In post 896, JunkoChan wrote:My thought are if you are scum we lost, and it's probably raya/looker otherwise
Why didn't you say this yesterday? We could've lynched Raya yesterday. Why did you lolduel?

@Raya:
Your last post read like you were differentiating between tunneling vs not tunneling
I was waiting for Allomancer to produce content and for you to commit to a vote, which is why it's ironic you mentioned keeping options open

FoS:Raya

Sorry for not quoting everything, but this site is fucking up on me

Hey Madoka, what do you think of this?
This is Looker’s vote history.

Captain the Furret · Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:58 pm

Junko, you can chip in as well if you’re around

Captain the Furret · Sat Apr 04, 2020 6:11 pm

In post 997, Raya36 wrote:Just caught up. I promise I'm not stalling. Just a busy past few days. Time to start reconsidering. I may have to finish in the morning

Sorry for the wait

Did she post this, log off, and leave us with nothing?

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:55 am

In post 1008, Madoka wrote:What do you extract from her voting history, Ali?

I want your opinion

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:57 am

The fuck you tryna avoid my question like that for and then post 1009
Explain yourself

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 4:57 am

You scum?

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:04 am

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:08 am

I'm starting to come around to Madoka being scum myself.
Them pushing me for an opinion on the spot when I clearly stated that I need the time to actually think out who Junko is scum with doesn't feel honest to me.
It more so feels like they're jumping at an opportunity when I'm really vulnerable

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:32 am

Raya can you stick around for 1 second

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:36 am

what do you think about dueling one of them at the moment?

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:47 am

okay but it adds 48 hours to the clock

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:50 am

Would you be happier if I dueled them?

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 6:55 am

go fuck yourself
you didn't give me time to think things through and explain myself when I wasn't able to think coherently, why do you suddenly deserve the time to elaborate.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:00 am

Ah yeah, YEAH, lets attack me at my WEAKEST points when I was struggling to think coherently and freaking out in thread

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:01 am

Tou know what Madoka sidestepped my question when I asked her for thoughts on Looker's vote history?
Because thats evidence for them being town
just follow the vote and see what they're trying to do.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:04 am

14 - Heaven vote. RVS
180 - wants to vote Raya, thinks Raya is scum
328 - There's a duel so they compromise on bugs since they like my slot more
383 - goes back to raya
551 - there's another duel, votes heaven
563 - we're still mid duel but this is the only question mark I can't really piece together
680 - duel ends, votes raya
853 - compromises on Allo
898 - fos's Raya

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:04 am

How hard is it to really identify what this guy is trying to do?

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:06 am

Like, if you really think about it, I see exactly what he's doing here.
Is it that hard to connect the dots and see what Looker is doing?

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:08 am

how is that scum indicative Madoka
I don't see it

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:13 am

I mean, you can pratically chart the game based on his votes.
His vote always goes back to the one person who he thinks is scum.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:15 am

the only time he moves his vote is EoD yesterday, and thats to compromise on Allo, because its at this point he knows he is not getting his Raya lynch.
I have never seen scum just try to keep their vote on one person for as long as possible.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:15 am

In post 1044, Raya36 wrote:
In post 1042, Captain the Furret wrote:I mean, you can pratically chart the game based on his votes.
His vote always goes back to the one person who he thinks is scum.
Yes, I know this. I've been that person he's been voting for consistently. But tell me what you think he's doing

Trying to push through the one person who he thinks is scum.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:16 am

Yes
Looker is town

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:17 am

What even is the case for them being scum?
Has anyone even bothered to say why people think he's scum?

Think about this for a moment.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:19 am

In post 1051, Raya36 wrote:Only because he's been consistently voting for me or do you have more to back that up?

I don't see why scum can't do that too

Scum don't do that because scum would rather move their vote around constantly.
It is a lot more common for town to just have 1 person they think is scum and to just keep that vote on that one person.
I have seen way more town do that then scum.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:20 am

Like, when has Looker moved his vote?
The only times he moved his vote is to
- Compromise at Allo at the End of the day
- Duels which override his vote.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:21 am

Like, Raya, scum just don't keep their vote locked into one place.
They just don't.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:24 am

In post 1054, Raya36 wrote:
In post 1049, Captain the Furret wrote:What even is the case for them being scum?
Has anyone even bothered to say why people think he's scum?

Think about this for a moment.
Low post count, doesn't appear to be reconsidering or looking into anyone but me unless forced to by a duel.

I've seen cases

Hold on, let me grab you a link, because I think these are all things that are more likely to be done by town here.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:25 am

Maybe I need to address the arguement at its core
how is not moving his vote a scum tactic?

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:27 am

viewtopic.php?f=56&t=72208&user_select[]=11534
Dramonic during the mid-late end of the game only voted Titus and himself.
He voted a ton of people before that, but when he starts to form a read on Titus, he only keeps his vote on Titus.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:30 am

In post 1058, Raya36 wrote:They can though. If Madoka is right about you and Looker being a team he had no reason to move his vote. Nobody was trying to lynch you. He was fine just leaving his vote on me and staying out of it and letting town kill each other for him

If town is killing itself, then its more benefical to just use your vote to try to support the townie he wants to pocket. He would want to use his vote more freely to help faciliate town killing themselves.
In this case, he doesn't do that. He just leave his vote on Raya when there isn't a duel going on.
Thats because that is a read that he believes is correct.
Thats town indicative.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:31 am

In post 1062, Raya36 wrote:So he did it as town once. Doesn't mean he can't do it as scum here if the opportunity is there

Okay but that's not correct.
What would be correct as scum here is to
Be more active
use your vote to help faciliate the downfall of town.

Looker's vote history is not one that scum actually does.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:33 am

Like, I am REALLY good at scum.
Scum do not just leave their vote on one person for the whole game.
Thats just not what scum does.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:35 am

If you genuinely believe that scum will leave their vote on one person for the whole entire game, and only want to push 1 read.
If things are as you say, that town is killing itself and eating itself alive, then he should be facilitating that, because he needs to actively persue a scum agenda.
He would need to use his vote to help town kill itself, not push 1 person that he strongly believes is scum.
Thats a town trait.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:38 am

And even if he's scum, he tries to get other people to vote Raya and tries to convince other people that Raya is scum.

With the way he pushes Raya, he is doing nothing to help his team if he is scum.
Like, I just don't see it.
Its not play that is performed by someone who has a teammate.
And if he has no teammates, then he is just town.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:43 am

Like, Looker is just town

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:44 am

VOTE: raya

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:44 am

Thanks Junko <3

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:47 am

CASE
CLOSED

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:49 am

Yeah, Dueling sounds really fun but if it was called literally anything else, it would not be fun.

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 7:53 am

Alright Junko, I collapsed yesterday trying to finish the hydra game and I am going to go back to doing that now so that you get a role pm

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:04 am

In post 201, gobbledygook wrote:Like it actually bothers me that he was able to get away with being obvscum because of terrible players who don’t even try like JunkoChan

And this is why you're dead!

Captain the Furret · Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:05 am

This was some dam good scumplay if I do say so myself
OOOOOOOOOOH YES THE EGO BOOST
I LOVE IT