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I'm afraid i have to support this, i think gobble is town
-Farkran
Tbh it looked like his RVS vote was trying to pretend he knew I was scum and roll that wagon from the start
and then his followup was meh as well, could easily see it coming from scum
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Post #71 (isolation #6) » Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:51 am
Postby Klick »
In post 23, gobbledygook wrote:The lack of RVS votes is interesting.
Farkran's question towards me is also interesting.
This game is not playing out at all how I thought it would.
In post 23, gobbledygook wrote:The lack of RVS votes is interesting.
Farkran's question towards me is also interesting.
This game is not playing out at all how I thought it would.
In post 23, gobbledygook wrote:The lack of RVS votes is interesting.
Farkran's question towards me is also interesting.
This game is not playing out at all how I thought it would.
What did this achieve?
I was implying I felt like this post achieved nothing in a way that was scum-indicative
I've since gone off this line of thought, mostly because of gobble's later posts giving me a better sense of where his head was at
(this doubles as a response to both gobbles and Fark)
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Post #190 (isolation #20) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 3:47 am
Postby Klick »
@Fark: you cite 66 as a post serving your point but it's me giving my interpretation of how gobbles played page 1, AKA trying to find where scum is
I think on the whole there's validity to your interpretation here of me not playing quite the same as I did in, say, the Mini Normal we were in
But similarly to the Korina cult game, it's important to keep in mind that this odd setup changes things significantly. You seem to be looking for people to play this like it's a normal Mafia game when that's not how town should be playing this setup (or at least that's the conclusion I've come to). I can't figure out why you're approaching this game normally when you caught on pretty quickly in the Cult game that optimal play was far from normal town play.|s 89
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Post #196 (isolation #22) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 5:16 am
Postby Klick »
Your (claimed) reasons for suspecting me line up more with a regular-Mafia lens than a corrected one and it has me concerned that you're unable to view this game from a town lens because you're not town.
That's more of a pet theory of what you'd be doing as scum here than something with much weight behind it though
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Post #201 (isolation #24) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:01 am
Postby Klick »
I liked Kerset's approach early on, in contrast with my feelings on Farkslot Kerset feels like exactly what I'd expect from a town mindset going into this game
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Post #218 (isolation #29) » Wed Apr 01, 2020 6:48 am
Postby Klick »
Yeah Morgana at the very least has to play massively differently than the other two scums (and if not then the imbalance would be corrected by the other two scums as opposed to Morgana)
Wonderwell wrote:well
i don't exactly like the wagon on Shiro
me and fark like Kerset's 202.
dkkoba saying "let me carry you" isn't exactly scummy
and there's 1 scum in {you, gobbles} and I think its just you so...
Questioning why you listed FA second in that list when it seems like the Chemist read came first and FA is mostly PoE.
Wonderwell wrote:well
i don't exactly like the wagon on Shiro
me and fark like Kerset's 202.
dkkoba saying "let me carry you" isn't exactly scummy
and there's 1 scum in {you, gobbles} and I think its just you so...
Questioning why you listed FA second in that list when it seems like the Chemist read came first and FA is mostly PoE.
VOTE: Wonderwell
I'd love to hear from some people who aren't Wonderwell about this
What scum is currently failing to realize is that even VTs are delivering a significant amount of information today, because compared to a common mafia game where the amount of uninformed people in d1 is roughly ~80% of the playerlist (10 out of 13 in a mini; 2 out of 9 in a newbie/micro), here the truly uninformed players are only 40% aka 3 out of 8. Merlin knows exactly who is scum, scum knows who is town as usual, Percival has a 50% chance to sheep town or scum with his information. Only the VTs are left completely in the dark, meaning that only 3 people are truly, completely clueless about what they should do. You wouldn't be able to hide among the ignorants, because there are too few ignorants.
Now, there have been several people claiming to be ignorant (chemist 125; shiro 184; FA 216), or displaying to be ignorant (klick has switched his vote 4 times by now). There is zero chance that all those people are town, so we just have to discern which people are genuinely clueless from those who are faking it to promote a scum agenda. I feel like there are at least 2 scum in that group, the chance of all 3 being there isn't so far off given how things have been playing out so far.
I approve of our most recent vote on Chemist, i think he's morgana.
-Farkran.
Getting pretty strong signaling vibes from this one
...not that I would ever vote the same way as you >.>
hmm i kind of want to sheep wonderwell just to see what will happen but chem flip feels so uninformative and this morgana theory is meh.
I don't want to argue with FA like turkey did but her odd coasting + wonder pointing there is quite convincing. VOTE: frozen
I think Chem flip would be fine. But FA seems better right now, I agree. VOTE: Frozen Angel
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Post #448 (isolation #43) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 2:35 am
Postby Klick »
It wouldn't make any sense for that to change your interpretation of the events if you were town
She claimed essentially a guilty on you - she would have to have been lying (as town) if you're town
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Post #505 (isolation #51) » Thu Apr 02, 2020 7:35 am
Postby Klick »
No rly Chem, if FA's words hold enough weight that they pass as mechanical info that the town should rely on, why aren't you currently voting for gobble?
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Post #591 (isolation #57) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:26 am
Postby Klick »
GG.
Merlin only voted scum and drew a lot of attention to themselves and that just ends in a scum win in this setup. I think after the Shiro D1 lynch we were set up to have a pretty good shot, but once the Persival claim happened we had zero chance.
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Post #601 (isolation #58) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:37 am
Postby Klick »
As Merlin in this setup it's completely vital to not be found out, and I don't think that's something you put enough weight into FA. You didn't have to do the Persival claim and that + your voting record and extremely consistent pushes on only scum meant you were the clear Merlin. Meanwhile I think the main thing every other town player had in common was that they put up a pretty decent effort trying to obfuscate who Merlin was.
I think it's hard to play Merlin in this setup though - the main thing I was putting together towards endgame was that Merlin is very limited in how they are able to do their job. At some point you have to let the rest of the Town do some solving themselves as well.
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Post #613 (isolation #59) » Sun Apr 05, 2020 8:47 am
Postby Klick »
I appreciate the kind words RC
I feel like optimal Merlin play is to not get found out by town tbh. If the whole town can coalesce behind your reads while thinking you're Merlin WITHOUT knowing who scum are, then scum should be able to find Merlin just as easily.
Basically town needs to not rely on Merlin as a crutch, but more as a balance to a scumsided setup.
Just my two cents. The setup is really interesting to me
