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[Chemist1422]

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I’ll start reading soon

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UNVOTE: nom^3

haven't really gotten a chance to read up yet and might not today

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oh shit

hey that’s my image

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Dropping this here before I catch up

[Chemist1422]

skitter's interaction with Mena on page 6 is pretty towny (for skitter not Mena)

also happy scumday datisi

[Chemist1422]

Nom's posting on pages 7 and 9 felt natural (168, 170, 211, 212 specifically)

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Obviously I’m gonna focus more on explaining my scumread than my townreads.

Why would not voting you give you pings when some players have barely posted? I mean yeah, I could have voted you, but Is it not also reasonable to wait until I have a read on everyone?

My townlean on Luca that I forgot to mention is gone

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Tentatively:

Quagsire
Heaven

Skitt
Nomx3
Looker

Furret

Aldus
Luca

@Mena

Why did you have Quag so high up?

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Quagsire how was evolving?

Did it hurt?

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btw my biggest issue with noms right now is that I feel like she identified me as town when I am playing in a way I feel like its very hard to get a good read on me, because
A. my play kind of sucks
B. I had some issues getting into the game.

it feels very much so like pocketting tbh.

I'm pretty sure I've seen this same sort of read from town!Ali before

I'll have to double-check though since idr what game

[Chemist1422]

Still have 1/3 of the thread to read but rn I'm at about:
{Mist}
{nom, Captain, Luca, skitter}
{Aldus, Mena}
{Quag, Looker}

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Obviously I’m gonna focus more on explaining my scumread than my townreads.

Why would not voting you give you pings when some players have barely posted? I mean yeah, I could have voted you, but Is it not also reasonable to wait until I have a read on everyone?

My townlean on Luca that I forgot to mention is gone

hey chemist

i know you're still getting caught up but luca claimed macho neapolitan. also noms and furret are in a hood.

yeah I caught that part

at the bottom of page 16 rn, will read through the rest soon

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Quagsire how was evolving?

Did it hurt?

evolving was great, i have arms now! it was relatively painless

sounds exciting!

[Chemist1422]

Who knows

(also please don't reference ongoing games)

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Obviously I’m gonna focus more on explaining my scumread than my townreads.

Why would not voting you give you pings when some players have barely posted? I mean yeah, I could have voted you, but Is it not also reasonable to wait until I have a read on everyone?

My townlean on Luca that I forgot to mention is gone

Why does this make you townread Luca less?

Second line felt like deflection to the lurking slots

[Chemist1422]

back to catchup fun times

[Chemist1422]

Obviously I’m gonna focus more on explaining my scumread than my townreads.

Why would not voting you give you pings when some players have barely posted? I mean yeah, I could have voted you, but Is it not also reasonable to wait until I have a read on everyone?

My townlean on Luca that I forgot to mention is gone

Why does this make you townread Luca less?

Second line felt like deflection to the lurking slots

Then you misunderstood the point as it had nothing to do with that.

I was stating that there was nothing wrong with not automatically voting a SL when:

A) she already has a couple of votes and I’d be putting her to L-2

B) a few players had barely posted, and I wanted to get a firmer grip on them before pushing a lynch.

Oh alright

[Chemist1422]

TR: Luca Blight
TL: nomnomnom, Captain the Furret, skitter30
Null: Quagsire
SL: Alduskkel,
SR: Chemist1422, Looker

After reading through once, I think this is pretty much where my reads are.
I found myself agreeing a lot with Luca's plays, but I don't find nom particularly scummy.
As for Chemist and Looker, I think Looker is scummy for reasons stated above, and Chemist for his predecessor, Heaven.

VOTE: Chemist1422

What did my predecessor do to make my slot scummy to you

Lurk? Because I think I've done a decent job of making up for that

[Chemist1422]

I think I would probably switch Looker and Aldus in my reads

rest are still fine

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i literally don't have reads on skitter or furret right now and that's concerning because i feel like i should

i also don't really know why i'm being scumread beyond vague statements of 'his posting sucks' or 'i didn't like his catchup'

i liked chemist's catchup, i think that slot is town

pedit: i'm still not seeing noms scum tbh

I'd just like to acknowledge this real quick

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also you feel p weird here

Y

the whole l-1 lolhammer thing was not great
i've never seen that from you before
you're being more like ~cavalier~ than i'm used to. like not caring about consequences as much i guess. and doing a l-1 just to see if a lolhammer will happen or not is kinda meh

you're being more like ~cavalier~ than i'm used to. like not caring about consequences as much i guess.

is that more likely behaviour from scum!me or town!me?

i have literally no idea since i've never seen it before.
hence weird

I think this is a towny thought process @skitter

It's not really jumping to conclusions about what it means and it seems like you're trying to actually think it through

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i literally don't have reads on skitter or furret right now and that's concerning because i feel like i should

i also don't really know why i'm being scumread beyond vague statements of 'his posting sucks' or 'i didn't like his catchup'

i liked chemist's catchup, i think that slot is town

pedit: i'm still not seeing noms scum tbh

I'd just like to acknowledge this real quick

what about this?

it seems hypocritical to complain about vague scumreads on you then make a read with the exact same vague wording

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Where is Chemist

E-"learning"

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I'm tempted to lolhammer but I am actually townreading nom, so

VOTE: Aldus

Let's see if this does anything

[Chemist1422]

nom's posting since being put at L-1 is super towny and it's basically locked in my prior townread

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Chemist is electrically learning right now!

indeed

soon enough I will be advanced enough to post shinx gifs

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nom's posting since being put at L-1 is super towny and it's basically locked in my prior townread

How is it super townie?

Put yourself in nom's mindset for a minute here

If you're getting pushed to L-1 and you think scum are manipulating the gamestate your priority is getting people to pay attention to that

Which I think is exactly what nom is doing and it's a level of conviction that would be super hard to fake imo

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Still think this conviction is fake Luca

p-edit: okay then

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VOTE: Furret

I guess we can give this a shot and see how it unfolds

p-edit: okay that's a gen 1 game song for a gen 2 pokemon

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VOTE: Aldus

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Gonna park that there overnight and reevaluate in the morning

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If furret/nom is TvT which I think it is generally the slots poking at it from the outside like Looker and Aldus are more likely to be scum

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Chemist vote noms then

Maybe tomorrow morning I’m gonna sleep

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okay

skitter town, captain town
aldus probably town? the basis for my scumread on them doesn't hold up anymore since nom flipped scum
quag is in this weird position where the way they and nom approached each other's slots seem like it could be partnery but also nom talked about them way more than anyone (except furret) so idk if that means they can't be partners or not

that leaves looker and gb who I don't have reads on

[Chemist1422]

TR: Luca Blight
TL: nomnomnom, Captain the Furret, skitter30
Null: Quagsire
SL: Alduskkel,
SR: Chemist1422, Looker

After reading through once, I think this is pretty much where my reads are.
I found myself agreeing a lot with Luca's plays, but I don't find nom particularly scummy.
As for Chemist and Looker, I think Looker is scummy for reasons stated above, and Chemist for his predecessor, Heaven.

VOTE: Chemist1422

A case on Nom might. I'm townreading Nom right now for her reaction to Looker pushing her.

I'm just curious on why you're so adamant it's Nom. I mean, we have one more day left. Do you think she's handled the wagon on her in a scummy way?

@George and Aldusk, can you two pick a wagon to support?
its crunch time.

Will do.

Sorry nom, Chemist joining the Ald wagon really doesn't help.

VOTE: nomnomnom

this is GB's entire progression on nom

I am not whelmed

[Chemist1422]

VOTE: GB

[Chemist1422]

I have the feeling ima need to bring out the mapping technology

hi I'm tired what does this mean

[Chemist1422]

oh okay

[Chemist1422]

maybe in a little bit

this probably wouldn't work that well for me because having all the info wouldn't mean I'd be able to put it together

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ah

sounds productive maybe I will do that

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yeah I'll give it a shot with nom ig

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noms iso is a mess no offense
if you wanna start someone, doing a joint ISO of Mena + George would be the best imo

oh okay

[Chemist1422]

Mena/GB

nomcubed

: =18 =143 =146 -?163 +?176 +?183 +?189 -193 =268 =270 +274 =311 +320 R +606 +?852 v1073

Quags

: v33 -190 =219 =220 +274 +456 R ==606

Heaven/Chemist

: v88 -?98 -126 -136 u173 +274 R r -606 -610

skitter

: =134 =151 =155 +274 +283 +301 R +606

Aldus

: +?-?179 -190 -266 -274 -282 R -606

Captain

: -?186 ==274 -?283 +297 -?301 R +606

Luca

: -190 -266 -274 v276 -282 -317 -322 -329 R +604 +606

Looker

: -190 =267 +274 +278 +279 +280 R =604 -606 -611

Datisi

: -305

this is probably too much tbh

[Chemist1422]

but hey I did the thing

are you proud of me

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yes please

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uhhh I haven't thought that far ahead yet

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I think I want to rule out George and Noms
If we’re going by the map Chemist posted, Mena really never had a solid stance on noms and I feel like scum!mena has a more solidified stance on noms

for like a decent half of the day it was "noms is TWTBAW"

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also I don't think it's fair to say I danced around the noms wagon when I was against it all day

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hi

VOTE: looker

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The Chemist vote worries me the most I guess.

@Chemist why Looker?

sheeping captain basically

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I kinda agree with GB's take on Quag tho

[Chemist1422]

sheeping captain basically

Do you have any other reason?

not particularly

I don't think quag or aldus is scum and definitely not captain or skitter

that leaves you and looker and I trust captain's read on the two more than my own

which is kinda sad to say out loud

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I don't think quag or aldus is scum and definitely not captain or skitter

that leaves you and looker

Do you think we're equally scummy or are we null to you?

why do you care more about what I think than I do

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is this where I self-hammer to deny you the satisfaction

also legacy
furret > quag > skitter > aldus > GB > looker

glgl

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left is top town btw

pagetop too

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I didn't get hammered though

So

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Probably a towny thought of you to have

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gg noms + skitter

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at this point I'm not even sure what I'm doing wrong other than disengagement sometimes

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jailkeeper is better than doctor change my mind

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if you target someone as doc there's no way they can die (barring strongman/roleblock)

the threat of doc stopping the kill is usually enough

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I like jailkeeper better because it's more versatile

Might just be because my style usually tends to leave me alive in endgame but I think it's a lot better than doctor then

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honestly I wanna roll IC sometime

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I like playing scum if I can get off to a good start

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I think I’d like playing town more if mislynching/hard defending scum didn’t feel like a personal failure tbh

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Yeah I know

It’s kind of a personal issue that I’ve been trying to work through more than an actual flaw in the alignment imo

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I don’t have any scummies but I have 4 awards on MU (technically six but one of them is basically split)

Two of which were team awards in games I did like nothing in, but