Micro 935 | Chain of Command | Game Over!

[Iconeum]

Can you look at 761 for me again and tell me what in it you disagree. You're not squirming like I would assume mafia would, and I am in no rush to hammer and would like you to please respond to what I wrote.

I'm interested in lynching scum, not mislynching town.

I really dislike this post

That last line is something I would say as scum to fake town cred

Plus your 761 was so flimsy man. You're attacking me for my consistency (and even claimed OMGUS, which isn't even a scumtells in and of itself) even though I felt that my pushes were coming from a genuine place. Everything just felt so convenient that you were "content" with my wagon because my push was inconsistent

actually i agree with that last line thing

it's the definition of Look At Me I'm So Town

[Iconeum]

also i'm a sucker for AtE

you don't get townie vibes from pepper posts recently ?

You really shouldn't. This seems again, very convenient. When my flip goes green I don't want you claiming "Oh I thought he was town in the end"

Dude seriously

'look guys ico is scum he's not reconsidering antying'

reconsidering pepper

'look guys ico is reconsidering this is bad'

[Iconeum]

my gut is now screaming at me that both pepper/QQ are town and i don't know what to do about it

someone hug me

What about drew

[Iconeum]

what's the link between them?

[Iconeum]

I'll repeat this you who reads this as civilian and doesn't know the rank of ensign,

civilian

You're resorting to such trivial and petty matters that are disgraceful to the fallen on the battlefields, this is shameful!

You are required to surrender immediately from your takeover attempt

You have no authority over the RoseN3

VOTE: drew

[Iconeum]

Why are we voting Drew now?

i think because some of his posts felt lamist, pepper is sorta towning it up, and my gut is pinging me.

+1

[Iconeum]

A hypothetical question for Ico; would you, as a town ensign be willing to be the lynch?

just *would* you?

No

[Iconeum]

VOTE: aldus

Good lynch

[Iconeum]

Drop of aldus

Lynch in this bracket Poe

Most informatieve and plus chancecto hit scum

[Iconeum]

Drp or aldus ol

[Iconeum]

What why not

[Iconeum]

i don't see a problem

why are you freakign out about me voting aldus

[Iconeum]

Yeah, this is optimal

VOTE: DoctorPepper

how are you ever honestly saying lynching my prime suspect is optimal, after pushign the entire game that my push on him was my Scum!MetaTM?

[Iconeum]

VOTE: drpepper

i'm hoping your mech solve actually solves any shit

and i hope you are aware that PR's can be scum

and if it doesn't benefit them they'll just not do the action

and we won't know jack shit because we do'nt knwo the PR's

[Iconeum]

The Doctar really doesn't feel like scum recently, why are you both blindly sheeping Kanna?

£$} Hectic

We already agreed Pep felt more town lately

Kannas mechTM is why Pep is now being lynhed

[Iconeum]

i think i'll just wait for that solve Kanna promised

[Iconeum]

or was that before you guys quicklynched in the blind and went 'oooops'?

[Iconeum]

Ok then back to posting flyers:

If I die tonight, and there is *no news* and *things don’t make sense*, Euphony is scum

o7

If I die tonight, and there is *no news* and *things don’t make sense*, Euphony is scum

o7

If I die tonight, and there is *no news* and *things don’t make sense*, Euphony is scum

o7

And by this I mean if ^ happens, powerlynch Euphony because Euphony is scum.

because otherwise, with *no news*, things aren't making sense and we are lynching Euphony as per flipped town captain who controlled our PR's

[Iconeum]

i think we should at least discuss what Kanna supposedly did and what it means

[Iconeum]

not trying to out PR's, but Kanna gave it's life for that quote and ignoring it now is bad i think

[Iconeum]

too hopeful coming into this day phase. actual townies would have crippling depression

I'm still somewhat hopefull. Definitely not depressed. Definitely suspicious of all those who pushed towards that lynch D1 at EoD.

Does that make me scum?

[Iconeum]

nobody is voting aldus except for you? like if you're rebuilding a wagon now at least say why

yeah it was terrible of me to rebuild a wagon, right? RIIIIGHT???

Ico, what are you doing...

voting scum

because it's a little over to day till deadline and we don't have a consensus

Yeah, this is optimal

VOTE: DoctorPepper

VOTE: pepper

this day was supposed to end 20 pages ago

yes. What made you jump off this train?

lowkey also wanna leap of faith lynch QQ

ugh

ugh indeed

Doctar's last few posts feel really genuine. I want to go Drew or Quentin now.

︻╦̵̵͇̿̿̿̿╤── Hectic

this game is basicly solved with openwolfing like this

VOTE: Quentin

FINE. This is what the day has come to.

?£$' Hectic

*insert wolf howling*

Drew has better chance of flipping scum but no one wants do that now apparently.

Quentin is a treasure so this pains me. shiki was raging on MSN chat the other day that we could potentially lose him. He means a lot to us.

!!! Hectic

this now reads fake as a wolf
overdramatized quote: 'omg quentin it pains to to do this but it furthers my wincon gettit, i still love you'

VOTE: QQ

fuck this game tbh

someone give intent or something i don't even know anymore

sure you do
ur the openwolf's buddy steering away from the pack (pepper and drew)

Actually, you know what, fuck it. This is just a game. If you lynch me it will only give insight.

Intent to hammer QQ

.

ahhhh here's the next wolf

this game is solved

scum are datisi/euphony/pepper/drew/aldus

and kanna

[Iconeum]

oka is probaby the deepwolf

i have it all figured out

[Iconeum]

i don't know if we can rely on kanna's advice to lynch euphony because kanna didn't know we were going to lynch our watcher

kanna didn't say 'lynch euph'

kanna said 'lynch euph IF'

i'm waiting on euph now

[Iconeum]

okay this gets us exactly nowhere

[Iconeum]

so if pepper is actually town (as somewhat indicated by EoD AtE)

then both scum were on QQ wagon

OkaPoka, Alduskkel, Euphony, Datisi, Drew-Sta

Aldus is the lynch imo
I don't know where i'm at with the others but let's see

Oka prob town? I prob lose if this is scum
Aldus this needs to be lynched imo
Euph i don't know? Kanna said lynch this if nothing happened, and nothing happened. So how much faith do we put in Kanna here?
Datisi for the love of all that is holy you better be town. Dislike how she helped the QQ lynch, unsure if it is scum indicative.
Drew was on the hot spot yesterday, need to check if Aldus + drew makes sense.

Thoughts?

[Iconeum]

okay this gets us exactly nowhere

Story of this game TBH.

Well no?

I think with you, me, oka town we can solve this game
The chance for lynching pepper was on D1. If pepper is scum then town did a great job stearing away from that lynch.

If aldus is indeed scum, I think we can solve this. Like, all scumteams that are currently in my head contain Aldus.

Thoughts?

[Iconeum]

if not aldus, then Euph eats rope imo (though not favoured by me at this time)

I think Euph had the worst switch vote on QQ

[Iconeum]

Pepper do you townread me or not?

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I'm just gonna hardcore solve this game thru a townblock and if it's wrong then so be it

what we got

5v2 and let's just forget about power roles this game
if we lynch aldus and it flips town, this goes to 3v2 which is pretty bad but with a solid dayplay today i think we should manage to get at least 1 scumlynch in 2 go's.

Like, lynching aldus into euphony should at least bring us to a 2v1 lylo

[Iconeum]

TOWN
ico
pepper (by default, because i'm not lynching here anymore) - most likely scenario is actually lynchbait here
oka
datisi (was townreading it up until the QQ lynch thing happened - scumpoints there but adding in the EoD chaos I think still town)

euph
drew

Aldus

smt like this is where i'm at

and we lynch bottom up

[Iconeum]

actually datisi makes sense

aldus first and then euph

so if it's wrong we can just blame Kanna

[Iconeum]

i have a townread on drew and am very eh about the first 3 voters on his wagon so can we not lynch drew

oh lol i completely misread that

[Iconeum]

also ignore that quote, my response is directly to datisi's 1164

[Iconeum]

@datisi

actually, aldus!scum -> lynch drew
and aldus!town -> lynch euphony

[Iconeum]

also why is oka higher than me when we were both on the wagon?

pedit: rereading isos eh?

oka above you yes, this is CoC after all. Can't run around trusting you :p

and yes

rereading iso's

[Iconeum]

just a random thought here

if the last commander is town

lynching him loses the game
but having him claim also loses the game

how the fuck do we work around that wrt to lynches?

[Iconeum]

drew's acceptance of it's lynch is odd

[Iconeum]

@datisi

actually, aldus!scum -> lynch drew
and aldus!town -> lynch euphony

Why? What are the associations there?

Ico?

÷7/ Hectic

poe and the QQ lynch

[Iconeum]

aldus i want updated reads from you

IIRC your scumreads were DP/me/QQ

QQ was town
DP and me were the only ones off lynch

if you think drew is still town and dats is scum, why aren't you pushing this since datisi is pushing your townread?

[Iconeum]

if everyone feels like aldus fits in most scumteams, why isn't he taking any heat?

[Iconeum]

drew why the early claim

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VOTE: aldus

[Iconeum]

i think i would sooner bet for aldus>drew rather than aldus>euph but

why are you voting drew over aldus?

[Iconeum]

let's flashlynch aldus and work from there

[Iconeum]

tbh i don't trust you to decide on anything here

you were wavering thru the entirety of D1, you ended up on what turned out to be a disastrous lynch and i don't even know why you did that exactly

either you scumread aldus or think he makes a ton of sense with your other scumreads, or you don't and then I want you to specifically speak out against lynching aldus.

no more maybe

[Iconeum]

like, we are gonna decide the outcome of this game today by PoE'ing the remaining players

we are gonna make a pool of 2 players that most feel comfortable about containing at least 1 scum so we don't insta lose (and even then we can get unlucky)

if ur town i need you to start making up your mind and if ur scum, you can just stand by and watch us crawl back into this

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/end inspirational speech

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also, actual footage of Iconeum leading this game (colourized):

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[Iconeum]

goddamnit

[Iconeum]

[Iconeum]

yeah saying that you had such a strong townread on QQ despite thinking he is unreadable and then lynching him 'because he'd lose us the game if he is town' is bullshit

[Iconeum]

TOWN
ico
pepper (by default, because i'm not lynching here anymore) - most likely scenario is actually lynchbait here
oka
datisi (was townreading it up until the QQ lynch thing happened - scumpoints there but adding in the EoD chaos I think still town)

euph
drew

Aldus

smt like this is where i'm at

and we lynch bottom up

not 2 but i'd be lynching in these 3 with the order of drew and euph undecided
biggest chance of lynching scum in aldus, with imo a coinflip between drew and euph

[Iconeum]

i'm working off the basis that we have 2 lynches in which we got to hit at least 1 scum, and hope scum is the last rank or they don't hit it thru NK

[Iconeum]

i didn't have a "townread" on QQ

i think i made it abundantly clear yesterday that i really thought QQ was town

'i really thought QQ was town' = townreading QQ

or... not?

[Iconeum]

please get a read on this game similar to what you had there and we might work something out

[Iconeum]

i understand what you see different in townreading and thinking he's town tho, but it's a semantics discussion with the same result

[Iconeum]

nobody is openwolfingly lining up lynches on the two most mislynch bait slots yet sorry

who do you consider the lynchbait slots here?

[Iconeum]

also, concerning your read on me, you *know* i'm town by now right?

[Iconeum]

i'm lynchbait this game? not with Kanna gone i'm not

hot take:

Pepper was the designated mislynch today, pushed by yours truly. This day is stalling because scum don't like the approach i'm taking wrt to my lynchpool. If I was helping scum push a good target they'd be backing me by now)

so if aldus flips town, you can lynch drew

I truly believe I'm miles outside my own scumrange here, as also proven by my unwillingness to lynch or push Pepper today.

[Iconeum]

ok let's refocus on the game

who was getting lynched at EoD1 and who pushed away from that onto QQ?

[Iconeum]

proven is too big of a word, just like *knowing*

but still, it's gotta be pretty damn close

i'm confident i'm right putting you in the townblock

[Iconeum]

but you posted like 10 times in between lmao

i've had my coffeeS, i'm all charged up baby

[Iconeum]

how confident are you in my townblock of me/you/oka/pepper?

if yes, we only need to argue about lynch order

this is @anyone in said townblock btw, because if we can settle on this then we have the power to push lynches thru between the 4 of us

[Iconeum]

indeed

but either makes sense with aldus, right?

[Iconeum]

fp'd

1249 response to 1247

[Iconeum]

i've got the worst PT's this game

[Iconeum]

it's in the realm of possibilities

but literally all roads are leading to aldus, even yours

you just don't seem willing to recognize it yet

[Iconeum]

I mean, elaborate on why aldu!scum means Drew, and town means us.#€% Hectic

i'm not certain of this, and i'll probably flip flop a few times over before the EoD

[Iconeum]

too hopeful coming into this day phase. actual townies would have crippling depression

I'm still somewhat hopefull. Definitely not depressed. Definitely suspicious of all those who pushed towards that lynch D1 at EoD.

Does that make me scum?

Not really, but I did expect a lot more "oh god we're screwed" when this Day started since that's about how I felt when I saw the flip.

just as easily faked as scum, then it is genuine town. it's completely NAI

so if pepper is actually town (as somewhat indicated by EoD AtE)

Calling DP town based on the EoD AtE doesn't make sense when you take into account:
1. You yourself admit you're partial to AtE, meaning you're biased.
2. You already got towncred for AtE before DP's AtE. Combine that with this game having scum daytalk, and DP's AtE could have easily been planned to snag towncred like you did.

do you think i 'snagged' towncredit? it wasn't just AtE, he was literally towning it up in his posting. I don't think you joined that particular conversation when it was happening, did you?

Like, all scumteams that are currently in my head contain Aldus.

TOWN
ico
pepper (by default, because i'm not lynching here anymore) - most likely scenario is actually lynchbait here
oka
datisi (was townreading it up until the QQ lynch thing happened - scumpoints there but adding in the EoD chaos I think still town)

euph
drew

Aldus

smt like this is where i'm at

and we lynch bottom up

How have you ruled out a Drew-Euphony scumteam?

i've not ruled out any scumteam, but this is where i was at, at that time. is this all you have to say about it? there were a couple reply's town!you could make about how you feel about this, but this aint it.

VOTE: Quantum Quaser

this game is a dumpster fire rn but I feel QQ is never going to be productive and has a decent chance of being scum so

What made you think Quentin had "a decent chance of being scum" at the time?

{}= Hectic

The L-1 vote on me was trash. QQ was nearly unreadable so he had 0 town points to counteract that. Finally, a bit of PoE based on my townreads on Drew and Oka.

just a random thought here

if the last commander is town

lynching him loses the game
but having him claim also loses the game

how the fuck do we work around that wrt to lynches?

Never claim rank and just pray we don't get unlucky.

drew's acceptance of it's lynch is odd

Well, didn't DP get townread for it?

completely different circumstances, like other world circumstances. It's not even close to being compareable

aldus i want updated reads from you

IIRC your scumreads were DP/me/QQ

QQ was town
DP and me were the only ones off lynch

if you think drew is still town and dats is scum, why aren't you pushing this since datisi is pushing your townread?

I don't actually have a solid scumread on Datisi. It's some mixture of an lolsolve/paranoia/gut. I don't know how to articulate it. I guess it's also notable that Datisi was obvtown in Autumnal but isn't here, but that's not solid either.

Honestly, my reads aren't in a very good place now. I remain confident Oka is town. I don't see why Drew is scum but maybe I need to reevaluate since I think I might be the only one thinking that -- maybe my early townread on Drew made me interpret everything after as town, too. I still find you and DP suspect.

Wait, me AND DP suspect? Like, in a team? Or independent? Because boy if you think there's a world where DP and I are a team then ehhhhh well I don't know if I have words for that lol

Datisi for the love of all that is holy you better be town.

right back at ya

This lowkey pings me as scum partners giggling to each other.

Spicey read, but you should probably just read the previous iteration of CoC to understand the true meaning of this. Or like,

literally any other game

dats and me have played together

Euphony kinda pings me too, especially:

I don't think we should flashwagon Quentin.

VOTE: Quentin

FINE. This is what the day has come to.

?£$' Hectic

...seems inconsistent or fake.

agreed. But I don't see you pushing any of Ico/DP/datisi/Euph. Why's that?

The best thing that can happen is for town to drag out the day and pressure other players to see if they slip as scum. If they do, lynch them, let me be NK'd and you'll likely win at 4v1.

And what makes you think you'd get NK'd? That seems incredibly unlikely at this point given how many people suspect you and that you've also claimed VT.

it's a strange take, to think it will be NK'd and a strange take to 'let me be killed', but this isn't really a scum!indicative statement is it?

i'm confident i'm right putting [Datisi] in the townblock

Okay how the hell did we get to here after all of this:

Spoiler:

because it's a little over to day till deadline and we don't have a consensus

Yeah, this is optimal

VOTE: DoctorPepper

VOTE: pepper

this day was supposed to end 20 pages ago

yes. What made you jump off this train?

lowkey also wanna leap of faith lynch QQ

ugh

ugh indeed

Datisi for the love of all that is holy you better be town. Dislike how she helped the QQ lynch, unsure if it is scum indicative.

yeah saying that you had such a strong townread on QQ despite thinking he is unreadable and then lynching him 'because he'd lose us the game if he is town' is bullshit

what about it? I talked to Dats about my questions and she answered everything and I think she's reaffirmed her spot in my townblock after that. It's all right here in the prev pages if you wanna read it.

I replied in-line bolded for what i hope is ease of reading

[Iconeum]

Aldus, you have like 4?ish scumreads in me/euph/datisi/DrP. And you choose to question DREW over why it thinks it will be NK'd? How does that help you make a solve?

A shotgun read on datisi 'lowkey think this is scum' and another shotgun 'guys i just had an epiphany Drp is actually scummy' after just having said you think DrP is scum is ehhhhhh meh at best

I really think ur scum and are waiting for town to make the wrong pushes here

[Iconeum]

Which makes me think about why you ain't jumping on the Drew train. There's a few scumreads there. Why don't you scumread Drew?

[Iconeum]

not sure enough about my scumreads yet to pick out which one to push

bruh

[Iconeum]

we're lynching aldus today

[Iconeum]

if you wanna talk about 1228 we can

i stand behind my belief that it doesn't make much sense

[Iconeum]

yes

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mfer can you elaborate

you townread me as well, but like you say here there's individual posts that can make you go 'hey ehmm what the fuck is this shit'

[Iconeum]

"guuuuuuuys just let me have this aldus mislynch!"

i highly doubt it's a mislynch

[Iconeum]

"guuuuuuuys just let me have this aldus mislynch!"

at least i'm pushing my scumreads instead of my townreads

[Iconeum]

dats we went thru the entire motion of discussing with each other

i think ur town after it
if you really want me to detailed explain it, i can give it a shot but you know it's more a feel thing then anything else

[Iconeum]

if you are gonna turn on me because of aldus, who has 4 scumreads (out of 7 remaining players including himself), and is questioning his only *townread*, while *not sure enough* to push his scumreads

we need to talk

[Iconeum]

i have a PoE of 4 people ;-;

don't cherrypick plz :p

my PoE is 3 as well so yeah

[Iconeum]

oka can you reply to my general townblock post callout thing

[Iconeum]

here's my spicy townbloc
me, oka, drew

have you thought this thru?

[Iconeum]

What gets me about Aldus is I've seen no tunnelling at all. The flip flopping appears to be him keeping his options open and going with the wind. This attitude is usually indicative of scum for me.

he's not flip flopping

there's a steady 'scumblock' of 4 players that he's not sorting at all
instead he chose to question you about NAI stuff

[Iconeum]

What do you mean?

like with regards to the QQ lynch

[Iconeum]

ald, gun 2 head, who do you want dead

iconeum

l to the ol

[Iconeum]

VOTE: Iconeum

choo choo counter wagon

p.s. that's l-1

ald, gun 2 head, who do you want dead

iconeum

ahhhh i see

actually i think this is an honest answer lol

[Iconeum]

oh ehhh, sorry disregard first quote again

[Iconeum]

honestly if icon flipped scum that'd be +equity for datisi being scum, it's just I'm not confident enough in that to lynch datisi first

would the reverse be true for you? me flipping town means datisi is prob town?

or dats flipping town means i'm prob town?

[Iconeum]

you flipping town doesn't give as much info on datisi since datisi has a larger number of plausible scum pairings

then why would you shoot me if datisi provides more information for you?

[Iconeum]

why am i still so scummy to you at this point?

[Iconeum]

so all D1 stuff and no revaluation upon flip, wagon analysis and D2 play?

[Iconeum]

i'm pretty sure kanna flipping town does not make you look more town tho ico

that lynch on QQ didn't happen without scum's assistance

there is no way i'm allowing a lynch off-wagon

[Iconeum]

vla weekend

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was pretty certain my reaction was gonna be a blatant Commander claim to scum but meh. Maybe there was a tiny chance to pull it off had someone else been scum.

I know it ain't much, but I caught on to that so I stepped up my 'taking command of this game' a bit hoping to draw the kill to me, but the fish didn't bite.

I repeat: the fish did not bite.

[Iconeum]

I reserve the right to roll scum with Datisi in the next game

[Iconeum]

terrible reads

[Iconeum]

well played scummers

thanks mod for everything except the game

[Iconeum]

#Town!Ico.never.does.that.

please at least let it be known that this waste of a slot is actually town!Ico lol (kanna I'm looking at you)

[Iconeum]

#Town!Ico.never.does.that.

please at least let it be known that this waste of a slot is actually town!Ico lol (kanna I'm looking at you)

sorry for tunneling you, Ico <3

No big deal, love you just the same

But man do I tend to scumread pushes on me when I'm town lol

[Iconeum]

ok i had my lunch i'm less cranky

[Iconeum]

no u