micro 933 mysterybox hate death spiral.

[Morning Tweet]

hej

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hectic you rejoined!!!!!!

and hi again NM and heaven!

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im flattered you took the time to read all my openings! The two mafia ones at the bottom are four years old, though.

VOTE: ceejay

Distancing is important apparently >x3

[Morning Tweet]

what about the mafia one at the top?

hehe (>ω<)

unfortunately, i had to make do with what i could find. do you have any more recently completed games as mafia on another account?

im afraid not sorri, I'm a new bat around these parts!

[Morning Tweet]

Also, I'm neighbours with Morning Tweet.

could we get a confirmation from morning tweet please?

Yup! This is my dream neighbourhood (｡^ω^｡)

@hectic are you certain morning tweet is town or are you just neighbors

Same question to morning tweet

No, it's not a masonry. Although I am starting off the bat leaning town, can't help it

There's no reason not to claim this: This page is like an oasis for me. I may only make 1 post every page containing any form of text. The exceptions to this rule are pages 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64... etc.
I checked and it's fine for me to posts images/GIFs which contain text. However, I should be able to start being more wally and just sumrise all my thoughts into one big post per page, and this post restriction should be fairly unnoticeable. This role is plagued in so many ridiculous ways. Send me bandaids if you have any I beg you

It might make more sense for morning tweet to be town to counteract this restriction

You think I'm a townie microphone for scum? Why's that more likely?

[Morning Tweet]

Oh okay that makes more sense, imo

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VOTE: bugspray

yea pretty much

[Morning Tweet]

Back to our house, Hectic

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Why are you guys so opposed to L-2?

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Ok you have made a fair point

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I just finished a game where NM hammered his scum partner in total cold blood. tricked me too

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@boring what about the Morning/Hectic situation makes you uncomfortable?

@Salad because I didn't understand his reasoning for voting me, i agreed with ceejays analysis of Hectic/MT neighbourhood, and i like wagons

[Morning Tweet]

*their sorry

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@Boring it's not like scum is more likely to bring up his odd posting than town would be

I agree it's a very weird situation

[Morning Tweet]

Although I am starting off the bat leaning town, can't help it

What if I'm starting off leaning town on the bat?

It'd make me feel all special (^-^*)

[Morning Tweet]

Oh my

Sigh.

I might as well claim a bit too just to help us puzzle more of this out.

I believe part of hectic's claim because I have a diseased modifier. Basically, if I visit someone, I'll possibly infect them. I am also apparently "asymptomatic".

The thing is that I am not a visiting role so I do not know how this exactly works. Anyone know any roles or anything which makes other players visit someone else?

Let me just say, I called it. I mentioned in our neighbourhood I believed Hectic's claim to be self-resolving once PRs mention if they have disease-related stuff in their roles or not. Since the issue is whether or not he's making this stuff up

Unfortunately for me, my neighbours interpreted this as "What? You want everyone to claim? That's not towny"

There being a scum in our midst in the neighbourhood is kinda a weak solve but I guess my hand is forced here

VOTE: bugspray

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Actually I kinda find it hard to believe that BOTH of my neighbours believe that the scumteam is me/Hectic. Which they mention suspecting us both constantly. Even now

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I forgotttt (・ ・ ；)

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I apologize Shiki, your reason for suspecting me makes sense

I thought my theory that Hectics claim will inevitably be validated or invalidated was pretty good so I treated it like truth until proven wrong. That's the best I can describe it prolly

I reread the thread without much success-- I'll see what NM, salad, heaven, etc have to say

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Why would town!Hectic be informed about only two people in the neighborhood? Why not all three? Why not just the existence of it?

What does the number of members he knows have to do with him being town or not?

[Morning Tweet]

I feel like if Hectic and I were mafia traitors we prolly would have figured it out already

Personally I didn't really feel like I was suspicious in the neighbourhood, but I feel a bit insane in the neighbourhood because the other two members have a total 180 read from me on the Hectic situation

[Morning Tweet]

my pool is tweet + hectic and im pretty sure after tweet dies shiki and i will have a de facto masonry

I've got bad news-- assuming shiki sticks to her "There is 1 scum in the neighbourhood" theory, you guys are going to be suspicious as ever of each other.

This is not how I wanted the neighbourhood to end up!

[Morning Tweet]

It's page 8!!!!! shiki, no PT is completely out of the question. I would say with 99% certainty that mafia has a PT; I don't think I've ever seen a game where that wasn't the case.

Morning Tweet, can you confirm that you outed the fact you weren't in a neighbourhood with me after bugspray made 80?

I told the neighbourhood that I wasnt in a PT with you from the very moment i started playing along. Bugspray said they missed me saying it and treated it like it was real for a while ..

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If we were both traitors, why would we need to keep trying to signal each other??? I didn't mean to mirror what Hectic said, and even then they're not even worded similarly or include the exact same names. I actually want to hear what half the roster has to say, given the game has pretty much been run by the neighbourhood debacle.

You yourself have said you townread Hectic, and yet, you're voting me because you think I'm hiding something I know about him (and am trying to tell him, I guess?). You say this in the neighbourhood, like, a lot. It's basically an interrogation in there.

[Morning Tweet]

Lul, I really want to read this neighbourhood.

Morning Tweet feels different tonally as in she doesn't sound like her normal cheery bat-self, but that could be down to being run up to L-1, and whatever's going down in that hood.

shiki, like I said, I've never seen a mafia game that doesn't have a scum PT. What caused you to even consider that a possibility?

I don't want you to play crazy detective. I've claimed everything I need to now and it's completely truthful. We should move on from my claim and discuss other stuff outside of the setup.

:C

When our neighbourhood isn't interrogating me, it's mostly setup speculation. Good luck on that one. The most recent setup spec led them both to believe we need to lynch Tweet urgently. So thats... nice

[Morning Tweet]

Bugs has said in the PT they are making all of their posts in one mega post that they're going to share on the next page.

It's page 8!!!!! shiki, no PT is completely out of the question. I would say with 99% certainty that mafia has a PT; I don't think I've ever seen a game where that wasn't the case.

Morning Tweet, can you confirm that you outed the fact you weren't in a neighbourhood with me after bugspray made 80?

I told the neighbourhood that I wasnt in a PT with you from the very moment i started playing along. Bugspray said they missed me saying it and treated it like it was real for a while ..

What was their reaction when they claimed to have finally seen it? Did it seem genuine?

Spoiler: The event

Bugs suggest that we should lynch tweet to prevent the disease from spreading. They comment that they might be putting too much emphasis on setup spec.

Bugs continues their setup spec, saying that Tweet will be a mislynch that is protown

Shiki asks why they think I'm a mislynch. Bugs says they have no real reason but believes that scum doesn't get put in so many PTs (bugs still believes at this point that our neighbourhood is real).

Shiki tells them that I have already said that the neighbourhood is a facade. They're like "What-- oh".

I think it reads genuine. I don't think it'll help me help determine their alignment too much

Does it look like shiki/bugspray is buddying the other in there? Also would like an answer to 180 when you have a chance to rest your wings.

Anyway, half the game basically hasn't checked in yet, and it's very likely that at least 1 scum is in there. So, let's not go hammering anyone please (Morning Tweet is on L-1).

I'm biased because they're both pretty much in agreement that I'm the one who needs to be voted out, but even then, I feel that it's very likely one is buddying the other.

Spoiler: Hood happenings

Bugs says some setup spec that hints we should hurry up -- shiki agrees and says that's what she's been worrying about all along and follows up by voting me.

They both had the opposite reaction I did to your claims. They both are or at least were in total agreement that I'm acting suspiciously in there. I tell them I find it hard to believe they both distrust your claim so heavily. They both say "lying is bad", basically, and don't seem to agree with me that your claim will resolve when PRs claim.

Bugs says I act suspicious in the neighbourhood chat. Just a bit later, shiki is now saying that she townreads you and can think of town motivations for your actions, but still finds me scummy regardless.

Pedit: Shiki I don't mean to say you're being hostile or anything! I like your detective persona. I promise you're not being out of line at all.

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Is it crazy to say that there's no chance in hell that MT/Hectic is the scumteam? I mean, does Hectic rando fakeclaim a neighborhood with his scumbuddy who then doesn't deny that neighborhood publicly but does so privately? Does that

ever

happen?

Why cant you be in the neighbourhood?!?!?! Seriously I wish that's what they would have thought

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I went with his claim because I gave it a higher chance of coming from town.

I couldn't think of a town or scum motivated reason to claim being in a neighbourhood with me. But it certainly draws a ton of attention for no towncred in return, plus he opened himself up to the possibility of me calling him a flat out liar.

also i really want to be in a neighbourhood with hectic ;'(

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Cause if he's town, which I believe him to be, then he's doing it for a reason. I wasnt sure if that meant people had to believe it or not. I kinda took the middle ground and confided in the neighbourhood but not the thread.

[Morning Tweet]

I feel relatively normal, but with the way everyone has reacted to me I think I might actually just be insane and havent realized it yet

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Normal as in I think my deduction of Hectic being town was fine. If he wasnt town and the claim was BS, we would catch him when we learn there is no disease with the PRs.

I admit my tone has been thrown off.. I was so sad reading that. I just wanna be a happy little bat

[Morning Tweet]

Well Hectic is immunocompromised, so he dies to the disease. I am not immunocompromised, which leads me to believe I am at least stronger to it than he is or possibly immune. That goes for everyone else who isnt compromised.

Itd be strange for a role to mention "The disease will kill you!" if the disease kills everybody anyway

[Morning Tweet]

I am not a big fan of boring's reaction to me and hectic's situation in her first post. It does not seem very genuine to me.

Not a huge fan of the slot so far in general, not necessarily cause of setup spec though. Setup spec has me at L-1. I'm a bit.. sensitive about the topic rn ;(

[Morning Tweet]

I am glad you agree on Hectic and ceejay. I hope you carry on those reads if I am to die here.

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VOTE: boring

at the current moment in time I actually feel pretty good abt this

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She's posted 5 times-- I don't think the sample size is great enough for meta yet.

You see, wagons are more effective for bringing someone back into the game because it automatically gives them important content they can respond to. Seriously, if we play this game like we aren't allowed to put more than 2 votes on the same target, then that's a huge loss for our ability to pressure.

You put me at L-1 just fine, I assume because NM was already voting for me, but it still would have only taken one more player.

[Morning Tweet]

I guess you could say that

[Morning Tweet]

First, some of us are "essential workers" and you'll have to live with an occasional mid-thursday to friday-evening posting gap.

and sorry for not taking this into consideration in the way i probably should have beforehand.

Well, the wagon might at least produce something to think about.

If this pop-in-vote/hammer-leave behavior is normal for NM, and MT knows it, MT's pile-on looks bad. Pressure is fine, but rushing a policy lynch is shitty play at best. I'm also unhappy with her choices in 197

I really don't like this line of thinking that putting someone to L-2 is unacceptable because NM might vote them. L-1 sure, of course. But all I did was be the third vote on a wagon that I agree with. How else are you going to generate any kind of pressure?

I also don't know what you mean by "choices" in 197. It's a recap of stuff happening in the hood.

[Morning Tweet]

Allow me to go over the playerlist as I see it at the moment..

Not_Mafia

shiki

boring

ceejayvinoya

Saladman27

Heaven

bugspray

Hectic

I townread Hectic, I heavy townlean on ceejay, and I light townread Heaven. My neighbourhood is a giant can of worms and honestly, I've decided I don't want to lynch in there today.

So I'm just left with the more inactive slots-- It's not really that I scumread them, but if I had to pick the lynch, I'd 100% put it within those three today. Boring, in particular, had a post I didn't like the feel of (79). So I put my vote there.

If my neighbourhood doesn't contain scum, I'd bet on the team being within those three based off PoE with my townleans. If my neighbourhood does have a scum member, I'd say its {bugs or shiki} with {NM, Salad, or boring}.

I understand why you consider my vote to be more severe because I understand how NM works. As you've mentioned I feel like the problem is kinda resolved when he places his vote early as he did

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I'm also unhappy with her choices in 197

could you expand on this?

I also don't know what you mean by "choices" in 197. It's a recap of stuff happening in the hood.

This. Why are you giving a recap of stuff happening in the hood? Am I alone in thinking !town would want to keep some secrets Day 1?

Well it's not a great secret if one of my neighbourhood members is scum anyway. Which is possible. I think divulging information about the hood with the greater goal of determining my neighbours' alignments is fine, especially when it comes as a response to my highest townread's question.

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Well it's not a great secret if one of my neighbourhood members is scum anyway. Which is possible. I think divulging information about the hood with the greater goal of determining my neighbours' alignments is fine, especially when it comes as a response to my highest townread's question.

I disagree. Have you already explained why you're heavy townreading hectic? If so, can you explain it again?

I guess we approach it differently. I do not view this neighbourhood as a team of three people trying to solve the game together whilst keeping secrets from the main thread, because there is absolutely no guarantee I can trust my neighbours.

here's a summary of Hectic:

Hectic claims to be immunocompromised, meaning he dies if a diseased player visits him. This is the first the thread has heard about this disease mechanic. It is possible that he reverse-engineered RC's post and faked the claim, however, this is a HUGE risk, as if such a disease mechanic were in the game, then we'd be seeing other players with disease mechanics in their roles.

My initial reaction to this was that it's very likely Hectic is telling the truth here, and it still is. I figured that if he IS lying, we will figure it out later on when no power roles correlate to disease. My neighbours could not disagree more, but this is partially because of the second thing Hectic does:

Hectic claims to be in a neighbourhood with me, and says he can use me as a kind of microphone to get his thoughts out through a (Another surprise!) post restriction. I am extremely perplexed by this, but I go along with it because I think it's likely he has a reason for it, and since I townread the claim, I want to try and help him with that reason.

Later on, we get two new developments. Hectic reveals that he was informed Shiki and I are in a neighbourhood together and wanted to do it as a reaction test on me. I am 99% sure he was indeed informed Shiki and I are in a neighbourhood together, because he was crumbing it from the start before we claimed it + you know, the whole reaction test on me.

The second development is Ceejay confirming the disease mechanic/flavouring nonsense is, in fact, a real thing. This further cements my thoughts on the validity on Hectic's claim, and also leads me to townlean on Ceejay as a collateral, since he did not have to reveal that information as scum at all.

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Salad ur readslist is fabulous.

I personally give Heaven the townlean for being one of the few people in this game thinking similarly to the way I am.

Spoiler: Examples

I feel like townies have a tendency to claim random shit that isn't super important to keep secret. Seems pretty natural to me that if Hectic wanted people to know about his post restriction, he'd also just go ahead and claim the rest. Plus, that way he can have MT paraphrase any thoughts he's dying to get out there, yeah?

Hectic and MT just finished a game with NM, as you yourself know. 'm not really seeing the big deal, or how it's that "harmful".

~Shiki 130~

Dude, this is some Da Vinci code conspiracy theory shit. I have no idea what else to say.

Is it crazy to say that there's no chance in hell that MT/Hectic is the scumteam? I mean, does Hectic rando fakeclaim a neighborhood with his scumbuddy who then doesn't deny that neighborhood publicly but does so privately? Does that

ever

happen?

I also get townie vibes from his follow-up questioning

Spoiler: Questions

Can people who have already claimed to know stuff about the disease related roles clarify exactly how that works? 'm not sure I fully grasp what's been said so far.

@MT, why did you go along with Hectic's neighborhood claim? That's kind of tripping me up, not sure I really understand what would lead you to do that or what you were thinking.

I'd love to hear Saladman, boring, and Heaven weigh in when they can. However, it is understandable if they're late due to to tying their shoe laces or the like.

Tying my shoe laces, that's a good one. 'll remember it for next time.

But even if you thought it had a higher chance of coming from town, why not just call it out anyways while still townreading him?

And then I get townie vibes again for his comment on my tone (cause it's true) and his townread on ceejay

Spoiler: Here n here

Morning Tweet feels different tonally as in she doesn't sound like her normal cheery bat-self, but that could be down to being run up to L-1, and whatever's going down in that hood.

I actually agree with this.

Sure, I dunno. 'm basically just grasping at straws, not even gonna pretend I have any insight into what's going on.

That being said, a read back through ceejay's ISO and I think I come away townreading him. I know I just said I won't pretend to know what's going on, but I have to imagine that scum probably has more insight than town does, yeah? With that in mind I liked his reaction to Hectic's claiming the neighborhood thinking that it makes you town. Seems like a pretty realistic thought for someone who has no information when it comes to any neighborhoods, and his later "obvious rolefishing" seems pretty consistent with both his claim later and with someone who only knows a little and is trying to do some setup spec.

Stuff starts to pile up in his favour, definitely from my PoV at least

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i don't see how you as town could possibly have been counting on him doing this. part of why i'm townreading not mafia for it is because while i was writing my post asking one of you to unvote i hadn't thought of simply asking not mafia to place his vote, and it was a simple appease all parties involved solution.

no i had absolutely no clue he'd do that, but it was a pleasant surprise.

[Morning Tweet]

Shiki, bugs and I discussed voting boring within the neighbourhood prior to ceejay voting boring, if I recall correctly.

Do you have a reason for feeling the wagon is opportunistic rather than simply... town voting possible scum?

[Morning Tweet]

I'm not particularly bothered by it being a sort-of counterwagon to mine. Does this whole interaction lead you to believe bugs and I are scum together, or that one of us is scum with Salad or Heaven?

[Morning Tweet]

the colours aren't read indictative, they're profile picture colours or somethin

[Morning Tweet]

, do your ears never get tired? I admire your energy.

I've read through your ISO and the only reason I can gather that you townread me for is my claim itself. Are there any other reasons to put me above

Heaven

/

ceejay

who you've outlined content-related reasons for townleaning? I could certainly see mafia being immunocompromised too.

I am a little ball of boundless energy! except when i get tuckered out, then it's nap time
(-ω-*)

I think it's much more likely a townie is immunocompromised. I don't think scum getting accidentally killed at night by a visiting PR that doesnt have the intention to kill you (since they wouldn't know you're compromised) would be very balanced.

[Morning Tweet]

I don't like low engagement is a scum tell for Saladman

[Morning Tweet]

I don't think low engagement is a scum tell for Saladman

fixed

I also think his reads list is very interesting and doesnt 100% sheep the thread. He put MT and Heaven higher than I was expecting.

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sorry! If we reached the day where everyone claims, and people claim things like "Doctor", "Jailkeeper", 1-shot BP" etc. and there were no flavour mentions or mechanic mentions of disease, then i would no longer give hectic a free pass into my TRs, as it would be extremely likely he's lying about his claim.

[Morning Tweet]

That's such a copout answer
Shiki can you please make sense of this? Baa

?????

What were you expecting?

[Morning Tweet]

Spoiler:

You can create extra possibilities all day long, i'm going with the one that is most likely

[Morning Tweet]

Also, I'm not a huge fan of 263; it feels like you're awarding town points too easily to Heaven. For example, you liked him simply responding to me with "I actually agree with this."

VOTE: Morning Tweet a friendly vote for now

Saladmeister linked 4 games of him being lynched as town-- he comes across to me as the kind of person who does things to get himself lynched, such as say, heavy inactivity and low engagement.

His content so far has been as follows:

*low effort*
"Yeah that was shitty"
"Hold on reevaluating it to make it less shitty"
*does 180 on a couple reads, including on me*

I'm not even sure if he explained why he switched on me

I think anyone who is solving the game rn as a Salad/MT scumteam is kinda a facepalm from me. Like......... (Ｔ﹏Ｔ)

I can't even be mad cause I can see why.. i'm just.... (︶﹏︺)

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Spoiler:

His early vote on me coupled with the sudden total 180 once everyone starts unvoting seems kinda odd. Plus there's no explanation. I just think he's kinda lazy which is NAI.

Idk if I posted this in the thread yet-- I cannot decide whether we're a 3 town neighbourhood or a 2t vs 1s. If my townreads are correct, then the team is one of

{Bugs/Shiki} + {NM/boring/Salad} OR {NM/boring/Salad} + {NM/boring/Salad}

i don't really want to mess with lynching in my neighbourhood today since I think there's a fair chance we're being messed with and we have an all town hood. However, some people want to go with the "1 scum in the neighbourhood" theory. Which from an outsider seems to be me as the pick for the scum in the neighbourhood. My most obvious partner would be Salad, since I'm pushing boring + all saladman's wonky read stuff.

also, i'm self-taught in emoticons, out of sheer necessity (人^ω^)

without them, i could not exist

[Morning Tweet]

I don't even want to think about the Donnie Brasco possibility!! Oh god-- if you're both scum but instead of having a mafia PT you instead talk in a neighbourhood with me in it, and are trying to get rid of me, that'd be terrifying.

But uh, yeah it'd be impossible for you to be Donnie. It'd be me

And again with the "Sure, but what if Hectic is informed of X and X". Then he'd be informed of both the existence of you and I in a neighbourhood, informed of ceejay being disease related, and have a post restriction with all the weird details it has. Really overloaded, but technically..

Yes, it's possible. No, I don't find it to be the most likely possibility.

[Morning Tweet]

i aspire to be as cool as you are! (*^∀^)

[Morning Tweet]

Sadly finding scum by PoE is the only way I know how on d1.

"Throwing in bugs and shiki for good measure" isn't a good way of putting it. I can't decide whether there's scum in the hood or not.

You also interpret my conclusion as "The scumteam must be comprised entirely of players who are easy to get lynched"-- this is not true. I found the three I TR/lean town (Hectic/ceejay/Heaven), and take them out of the pool. I have decided I don't want to lynch within the neighbourhood. That leaves the three people I lack towny reads on.

My conclusion should instead be interpreted as "I think scum is outside of these three, andI don't want to lynch in the neighbourhood, leaving just these three to lynch inside".

You also don't really interpret my answer regarding Hectic right. "I would no longer give Hectic a free pass" is my answer to your hypothetical that no one claims disease PR, which has been proven to not be the case-- CJ did.

how can I be leaving my options open to an option that doesn't exist?!

[Morning Tweet]

i can't decide whether I'm being a moron this game and I'm being scumread for valid reasons, or if scum is just stretching these things to get me lynched. Probably a bit of both, especially the former.

[Morning Tweet]

i can't decide whether I'm being a moron this game and I'm being scumread for valid reasons

To expound upon this a bit-- I felt like a crazy person held in a straitjacket when I tried to explain to my neighbourhood why I thought Hectic is very likely town (back before CJ confirmed the disease thing). Now I kinda feel crazy again trying to explain how I feel about the hectic nonsense, compounded by how my reads are just PoE from TRs i made based off the aforementioned read on hectic

[Morning Tweet]

You also don't really interpret my answer regarding Hectic right. "I would no longer give Hectic a free pass" is my answer to your hypothetical that no one claims disease PR, which has been proven to not be the case-- CJ did.

how can I be leaving my options open to an option that doesn't exist?!

CJ made speculation based on a previous game. Why couldn't hectic have done the same?
More to the point, why would you be so resistant to say something like "I still think he's town because of his play" or "If he's lying about that, then he's probably scum"?

I mean, he isn't even trying to assert some a conf-town position among us. So why you seem to be the only one not be questioning his alignment? I suspect because it's easier to have a cop-out read than trying to look like you're solving.

Sigh

I admit I stopped trying to solve him almost immediately after the initial claim-- much to the dismay of all. maybe early claims/fakeclaims are my kryptonite. Maybe it's just Hectic

Also I don't really get what you're saying in the first sentence. I'm talking about this post by ceejay

Sigh.

I might as well claim a bit too just to help us puzzle more of this out.

I believe part of hectic's claim because I have a diseased modifier. Basically, if I visit someone, I'll possibly infect them. I am also apparently "asymptomatic".

The thing is that I am not a visiting role so I do not know how this exactly works. Anyone know any roles or anything which makes other players visit someone else?

You said I'm leaving my options open just in case, later in the game, we find out there are no other diseased roles. Which we already know there is. so i don't know what you mean by leaving my options open

[Morning Tweet]

I think I got lynched almost immediately after making that comment lol

[Morning Tweet]

I interpreted that as "I have no idea wtf it means but it sounds like disease-related stuff"

[Morning Tweet]

(´w｀*) it's fine

i'm glad im not going totally insane at least

I'm sorry my reads aren't exactly very analytical, i haven't done research on other players as shiki has for the most part

[Morning Tweet]

i will try a new angle. of all the players you are familiar with on mafiascum, who do you believe is the most likely to fake a post restriction that allows them to post once per page and gifs whenever they want?

(･ ω ･ )

( ･// ω // ･)

point taken. 100% in character though

[Morning Tweet]

I started a wagon on you out of POE reasons and also because you didn't post much. How did this not make me lean scum to you?

As stated above, she also said she was pushing me without actually pushing me, her whole pool was lynchbait, and I misunderstood the pass she gave hectic as town. Plus, I was already uncomfortable with her based on her giving a high-volume player a free pass (after trying to ingratiate herself to him by lying to town in the beginning), and outing neighborhood conversations.

I had to look up what ingratiate means ヽ(^∀^)ﾉ

Spoiler:

Is it really that bad? Like, will he just game-throw in lylo?
I don't like policy lynches. He's past due for a prod, and he was 2.5 days absent before his most recent post. If he doesn't play, schadd_ will eventually replace him, right? If he's scum, we still have his partner to find and lynch today.

depends on how you define gamethrowing-- if he does what he did in my last game, you'll 99% have no idea if he's town or not, and he'll be death tunneled on somebody for the last few days

Oh also, if there's 7 town and 1-18 mafia, there has to be 2 not-town, although technically one of them could be a not-mafia, not-town third party

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: Not Mafioso

sorry NM

I haven't caught up. I'll do it tomorrow. I'm down to policy n_m but not today. I'd rather Lynch shiki who has been giving me bad vibes for a while.

i can't wait to hear more abt this, a devil's advocate on shiki being not town sounds very interesting

[Morning Tweet]

i dont have pops to torture me this game, Heaven! maybe that really was the key to bringing out my alignment.

anyone who votes me for a reason, then reevaluates said reason after new evidence comes to light, instantly makes me inclined to feel they're an upstanding individual of the town. for better or for worse

not exactly the most scientific of scum metrics but has led me into voting NM over boring nonetheless

[Morning Tweet]

also Heaven is town here guis-- very consistent activity wise and tone wise with permanent marker, is correct about me being different, good read on boring, im inclined to think he's genuine about bugs.

im not backing down on protecting him this time. i hope

pedit: According to my games I've played thus far, the number of townreads i get seems to be directly correlated with the number of hostage situations im involved with.

Marker: At least 2 hostages -- Townread by a bunch
This game: ZERO hostages -- Nearly lynched like twice

[Morning Tweet]

i appreciate the great lengths you've taken in an attempt to sort me (｡v ω v｡)

thank u heaven

[Morning Tweet]

unofficial VC by morning -- is probably correct

Ceejay (1): Not_Mafia
Saladman (1): bugs
Not Mafia (1): Morning
Bugs (1): Hectic

we are, literally as far away from there being a chance of an accidental hammer as is possible

[Morning Tweet]

Here's a theory that's popped into my head. I've been hesitant to believe the disease theme, but if two players are claiming something, fine, I'm in. Ceejavinoya has a thing that says he could infect those he visits, and we have another player who is immunocompromised, Maybe scum have the ability to infect one player per night, and compromise one player per night, with N0 already being randomly accounted for (or maybe picked by scum?). Maybe they're working together as a team, maybe not. If this is the case, two new people will come up infectious/compromised tomorrow. It would explain why hectic could possibly have a post restriction and an immunocompromise and why ceejayvinoya would have something about visiting when he can't.

I think it's not a terrible theory actually. I feel like tomorrow new disease-related things will happen, for sure.

Marker: At least 2 hostages -- Townread by a bunch
This game: ZERO hostages -- Nearly lynched like twice

Spoiler: Your wish is my command

Pressure bugspray with me or there's more extremely cute rat GIFs coming your way.

you've got me uncomfortable now. i hope this works out or I'm gonna be going through this for nothing

i want to wait for bugspray's spec thingy first-- but! BUT! no more gifs will be necessary, i'm certain. (人ゝω・）

[Morning Tweet]

Sorry, that was uncalled for. I hope this makes up for it:

Spoiler: Trauma Therapy

Also, do you prefer being called Morning or Morning Tweet?

thank youuuu (*≧▽≦*)

i feel better already!!

i like being called Morning the best, but most people go for MT or Tweet I notice. anything is fine though!

And so the Not Mafia vote is just a policy 1/4, right? I'm sure you're aware that pressuring Not Mafia doesn't yield anything useful.

Boring is creeping up on me so i kinda just threw it on NM, at least for now-- i'm well aware he is unphased by me.

I think in hindsight, voting Saladman or bugs would be probably more.. useful. I'm all in for a NM PL though. i was also kind of under the impression deadline is coming up and im not really sure why

still gonna hear about bugs' story first before changing the vote

[Morning Tweet]

I don't really find myself agreeing with most of bugs' post-- i wanna hear shiki's response now. i want to mention i can understand a healthy shiki suspicion although i don't get their reasoning. i dont recall shiki saying "i buy it tbh" about hectic's post restriction, for example.

Morning, I hope you're ready now.

(人^∀^) !!

[Morning Tweet]

plz dont execute me UwU

AtE and faces!! my weaknesses!!!!

[Morning Tweet]

Appeal to emotion-- you've got my UwUs all shaken up now

[Morning Tweet]

she began preparing for night actions and stating who she wanted scum to kill and who she feared scum killing.

(ノ_< *)

I told bugs that even if they have doubts about Hectic, it'd be better to just not push him today. this was a direct response to their spec post. You're the one who asked me why I thought that, so I responded by saying if we treat him as conftown, he's probably going to be NKed due to the immunocompromise thing.

My posts in the neighbourhood, after the first one, came as a direct result to you asking me questions...

Not just that, there's nothing about night actions ?? all that's in there is me telling bugs to not pursue Hectic, you questioning me about it for a page, and you speculating that bugs is a jester.

[Morning Tweet]

i do not understand how 'i think hectic is town. let's treat hectic as confirmed town so that the scum kill him in the night' is a town thought process.

you suggested we encourage the scum to kill hectic, and expressed a fear of scum killing another player.

Bugs does not agree with me that Hectic is town. I do not get bugs' case on hectic. I am advising them to leave Hectic be-- if Hectic is town and is widely townread, then Bugs' speculation on Hectic will solve itself due to the immunocompromised thing (If it works like we expect)

of course, it doesn't really matter now (人>ω>)

[Morning Tweet]

Oh, new page. Morning was your thought process:

If all 3 of us in the hood are town, let's act like we all think Hectic is town. Scum will nightkill him and it may be inoptimal for them because Hectic's immunocompromised anyway.

Sort of this, but the reason for it being inoptimal would be that bugs didn't actually TR you, so it'd A.) be scum killing a possible mislynch rather than a consensus town and B.) we would stop being so distracted trying to figure out if you're for real or not

[Morning Tweet]

they are *still* speculating that we're the scumteam

and you're right im sorri (╥﹏╥ )

The idea is that you're the null/scum read for my neighbours, and im trying to convince them to vote elsewhere than you

[Morning Tweet]

policy lynches are lynches you do with regards to how someone plays in all their games.. this has nothing to do with policy ..?

[Morning Tweet]

Why is it more likely that theres one high post count scum and one low post count scum, as opposed to two high or two low?

[Morning Tweet]

let's say you have the numbers 1-9, and you pick two of them randomly. You are equally likely to pick any number to be scum, because higher/lower number is not scum indictative.

Is it reasonable to assume that you get a number from 1 to 4, and a number from 5 to 9? No. you get two of the numbers randomly

If post count / effort is NAI, then it's not reasonable to scumhunt based off of "there is likely one high post count scum and one low post scum".

but knowing me i am probably totally misinterpreting what you mean. that's how im interpreting it at the moment though!

[Morning Tweet]

I'm on board w/ bugs but he's at pseudo L-1 rn so im just gonna let NM hold onto my vote for me until i need it

[Morning Tweet]

they're* sorry

[Morning Tweet]

(;﹏;)

[Morning Tweet]

I wouldn't trust the steak if i were you guys

[Morning Tweet]

Scum knows I'm town and that I can't read so they are focusing on me trying to get me to say helpful things when that can't possibly happen

So what does town want from you, exactly, if it's not helpful things?
?

[Morning Tweet]

I wouldn't trust the steak if i were you guys

Owl-impersonator? How dare you!

i'm not interested in meat. i only eat fruit-- maybe a bug from time to time. what's the steak made of??

[Morning Tweet]

this is getting out of hand. now there are two of them!

[Morning Tweet]

What do you mean by "this game is completely solved"?

[Morning Tweet]

I am currently experiencing one of the most confusing runs of it i've ever had in a game of mafia

Anyways, this game is completely solved and 'm probably not helping that. Let's policy NM or lynch Boring because she's scum or Bugs just for the lulz. My first choice is NM.

this is not helping my mental state

[Morning Tweet]

Heaven i feared I had finally gone off the deep end there

You think boring's scum too? is that a recent development or have you been thinking that for a while

[Morning Tweet]

Heaven i feared I had finally gone off the deep end there

You think boring's scum too? is that a recent development or have you been thinking that for a while

Completely honestly I just wanted to take a strong stance on someone to do something because I feel like 'm doing nothing this game, but thinking about it for literally longer than the seconds I thought about it earlier, that's probably a stupid idea. It obviously falls apart under the most basic questioning and I already noticed something earlier that made me townread boring. So the answer is "I just made it up".

'm just... not feeling a lot when I read stuff from people this game, and 'ts a weird experience. Hopefully a lynch solves that.

i'm not having a grand time, either. I organized my thoughts together the other day and it's

ugly

, even for my standard of posting. Feeling like I'm more likely to be wrong on my reads than the rest of the town is-- its a really bad motivator

[Morning Tweet]

I would be careful townreading NM based on a vote of his. although there isn't a whole lot else you could read him for. it's bit me in the past though

i have intent to hammer/l-1 bugs

because nothing productive is gonna happen today, i suppose. i'm very concerned for tomorrow if they flip green, though

Their initial response to being put L-2 was to put themself at L-1 so i kinda doubt we're going to get a special claim. Still, I'll put my vote on a little later tonight just in case they have something to add

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: bugs

(/﹏＼)

[Morning Tweet]

DAMN IT.

All by myself now. I tried my hand at analysis during the night, one sec

[Morning Tweet]

Spoiler: Reads List

Town Block //
Ceejayvinoya
Shiki

Likely Town //
Boring

(●。●) //
Hectic

Null, As Always //
Not_Mafia

Conflicting //
Heaven
Saladman

Spoiler: Analysis

Ceejay I cannot see a world where he is scum, aside from possibly with Hectic, due to the claim. On top of this, he’s just consistently felt townie. I could explain more but I think we’re probably in agreement here.

Shiki has a ton of analysis. So many places where I feel it’d have been hard to fake. Check 130, for example. She starts speculating on traitor stuff-- where does that even come from?? She finds something to investigate in everything.. she certainly puts the effort in at least. I also think it’s very within the realm of possibility that schadd puts three town in a neighbourhood together, knowing fully well the terror and panic that would ensue.

Boring-- i didn’t pick up on this at the time, but 342 may be a sort of townslip. Scum is probably aware of the diseased mechanic, but boring was at one point the only person in the thread to not realize it was confirmed. She said I was leaving my options open to whether or not there was a disease mechanic, not realizing that ceejay had already confirmed it. Once I pointed it out, her reaction did seem somewhat genuine. It was even delayed a bit-- I had to point it out twice before she realized.

Hectic.. (人ゝω・)
is more likely town than not. That is I have to say

Not_Mafia is actually not a player in this game

Heaven i admitedly had very shifty reasoning on. I know. I can’t come up with a reason to townread him now reading again. Also 494 doesn’t really make any sense-- he admits he only reason took he took a strong because he felt like he needed a stance and contribute. And he picked a stance that bugs and I were on, too. Could have been a scum sheep that I accidentally called out that he didn’t have any real reason to join on. Also could have just been a lazy/unsure what to do thing, but kinda odd nonetheless

Saladman pretty much stopped engaging in the last ⅓ of the day. Not necessarily scummy, but leaves me with next to nothing to go off of, really. I felt like it was really interesting he put me so friken high on his early reads list, but figured it was sorta towny that he saw something about me and tried to have his own opinion. Now i’m kinda NAI on that particular thing. nice

[Morning Tweet]

I spent the night discussing things I saw while rereading with shiki.

We talked about how ceejay should realistically only be able to be scumpartners with Hectic.

She clarified that she wasn't saying NM was her strongest townread in 462, but instead she was making a point that she is unwilling to policy him.

Shiki noted that boring seems to be really likely town here. The two groups thing didn't make a lot of sense to Shiki either, and sometimes boring wasn't reading the most closely (like with ceejay), however, she seems very likely town. In the end, shiki noted that if someone dies from the disease, we should town block boring

She noted that she thought Heaven did the strong stance thing in 494 because of her earlier comments about Heaven seeming less confident than usual

Her final words were in response to me begging her to stay alive for today. She said that she hopes to be here, but knows if she does then she's going to do heavy analyzing on why she stayed alive. For this reason, she hoped that staying alive would also come with confirmation of the disease mechanic, so she'd have more to go off of.

She then noted that if she or I were given something positive during the night, it's definitely from Hectic.

And that's the end.

[Morning Tweet]

VOTE: Saladman

NM killed me in permanent marker even though I townread him and might have thrown the game with my stupid townread theory on him

still, I want to agree-- but it's hard to

[Morning Tweet]

Still kinda unsure which

Saladman is pretty much just in his general mafia M.O. I saw a vanilla town game of his where the first somewhat large, substantial post he made was post #1366, 16 days into the game and on d2

viewtopic.php?p=11281587

As for Heaven, i have new scummy feelings towards him that i didnt have before, but it could also be attributed to a change in mindset from lack of confidence / lost where to talk about. I myself am a little bit different bat this game, too

[Morning Tweet]

She then noted that if she or I were given something positive during the night, it's definitely from Hectic.

Spoiler:

That was her own thought that she got out in the very last sentence she posted. It was pretty much from nowhere, but i mean, i guess it makes sense. if you had an extra ability you were keeping secret, like maybe give someone a fruit or something, and one of us got one, we could prolly guess it was from u

VOTE: Heaven

[Morning Tweet]

Heck
MT
CJ
bore
NM
Hell

Any reason that you TR me over ceejay?

Morning, I agree with your reads, and I'm leaning on Heaven being the scum over Saladman. I also agree that shiki's death doesn't clear NM by any means. She was easily the more universally townread player. That alone makes her the biggest threat to scum, regardless of her reads.

Any particular reason you use "being the scum" over just "being scum" here? Can you not see both being scum at the same time?

I find it improbable that they're both scum.
I think both heaven and salad's isos both look like they may have made day-talk-prompted opinion changes. I doubt they'd coach each other. Also, if salad was scum and he came in noticing us steering toward his partner, I think he would have done something other than immediately pile on. Its not like scum have had a bad game so far. No need to cut and run at the first sign of trouble.

One counterpoint could be that the alternative to his partner in this scenario, Heaven, seemed to be himself. I could very well see those two telling the other that they can bus each other if needed.

that being said, i lean on the team not being Salad/Heaven as well

[Morning Tweet]

[...]i'm very concerned for tomorrow if they flip green, though

Why?

I almost forgot to answer this-- yesterday I was worried that if bugs flips green, then all proprietors of the "1 scum in the neighbourhood" theory were going to come down on me today, cause we pretty much consensus TR shiki. I figured that was the angle scum (and possibly town) would try to push today

Although now i've got people saying they more or less trust me. I felt like i was in the lynch pool yesterday (before the bugs bit) with Saladman at least, did something change?

[Morning Tweet]

Spoiler:

She then noted that if she or I were given something positive during the night, it's definitely from Hectic.

missed the second question

At the beginning of the night, she mentioned she was reconsidering her read on me. we mostly didn't talk about me during our thread rereads though, we talked about the other players

At one point I told her that i'd be really lonely and sad if she were to be the NK. She said that she found herself to be the most likely NK, unless mafia are planning on using her to push their lynches or if they know something about the disease she doesn't. She noted that if I were mafia, i'd probably kill nightkill her instead of betting on her turning around. She also thought there is a possibility mafia kills her in the night to frame me.

ah. that might explain why i thought there was a general suspicion of me, shiki seemed to think so too

[Morning Tweet]

she never mentioned anything about having a PR to me n bugs. At least i dont think so

[Morning Tweet]

Dunno. This happened at the beginning of d2 in my last game with him. I ended up switching him from my #1 town to voting for him. fun how that works

[Morning Tweet]

In other news, boring is very town. Unless she came up with the idea of killing shiki, then townreading me for it instead of the expected suspicion i'd receive for it. Bravo

expanding on the heaven point though, I didn't have the same kind of townread on him yesterday as i did d1 in that game. So it's not a total parallel

[Morning Tweet]

So you're thinking it's one of {Hectic/Heaven}, {NM/Heaven} or {NM/Salad}? I think these are not bad picks with the information we've got. I wish the game was moving a little smoother

[Morning Tweet]

2 days, 22 hours, 29 minutes

WHAT

[Morning Tweet]

prodding saladman27

prodding not_mafia

prodding the page

Why wasn't Heaven prodded? I am confused.

boring and Morning, why do you think Hectic/Heaven is a possibility when he's my no1 preferred lynch atm? Or more specifically, why me with Heaven rather than Not Mafia or Saladman?

For me it's cause i feel there's one scum in {Salad,Heaven}, but *probably* not two. Also, you voted Saladman first then pivoted to Heaven, to be fair.

And there's not a lot of material to defend Heaven with at the moment, it'd be a little odd if someone inexplicitly defended him for mystery reasons, which i basically did yesterday i guess

[Morning Tweet]

NM do you play any differently with regards to your alignment anyway?

[Morning Tweet]

@MT, have your feelings regarding hectic changed since yesterday?

Last night I realized he isn't exactly confirmed town and kinda saw why everyone thought i was crazy

That reminds me! i had something i wanted to ask

I am immunocompromised. I die if anyone diseased visits me. I'm aware this means any diseased mafia like a rolecop or whatever could kill me for free...... buuuut I'm gonna hope that's not the case, and it's another townie that's diseased.
Also, I'm neighbours with Morning Tweet.

Hectic, what was your motivation behind claiming immunocompromised right off the bat?

I probably could've crumbed dying to disease, but I couldn't see a way to do it which would let a diseased townie know, and not a diseased scummie. This is fine. I am fine. Everything is okay.

You imply here that you wanted to ward off a diseased townie from visiting you. But don't you think it'd be a lot more likely that mafia controls the disease?

[Morning Tweet]

In other news, boring is very town. Unless she came up with the idea of killing shiki, then townreading me for it instead of the expected suspicion i'd receive for it. Bravo

I *really* expected scum to push the "Morning is the scum in the neighbourhood" thing today. Regardless of whether or not shiki died. Whether or not they start the push themself, or follow a townie that does it.

The reason i thought this was it seemed like there was really heavy, consistent suspicion on me yesterday. I also got the feeling this was the case as I talked with Shiki. It would have been decently easy to push that angle, or so i thought

How things played out instead, regarding those reading me, chronologically:

Spoiler:

Hectic expresses a null-to-scum read "Sigh. I want to blindly trust you"
Boring says that she agrees with my reads. She called me 'Morning' too!!!1!
Saladman votes my highest scumread (besides himself). Saladman says he trusts both me and Hectic
Saladman puts me as his second highest town
Boring says she is pretty sure i'm town now

Hectic pretty much has consistently suspected to some degree all game. (人･ω･) hectic pls !!

Boring was the first player to express a TR on me today. Interestingly enough, during the night phase i came to the realization that she's actually not scum and one of my strongest townreads.

Salad like.. doesn't really mention me day one. He said he was going to sheep Hectic's pool which was "Morning/bugs/Saladman". He also said he wanted to lynch NM on top of that. He had me as a mystery town read on a list once, and he has me on it again.

It would have been way easier for boring!scum to keep me in her suspects list. She didn't explicitly state a TR on me yesterday and Hectic began the day not TRing me. Keeping me in that state of maybe being scum maybe not, in order to see if someone brought up the kill as a reason to lynch me would have been easier. Also I have that prior reasoning for townreading boring, so it stacks up

Salad I pretty much can't draw anything AI from to be honest

[Morning Tweet]

ヽ(>ω<)ﾉ happy birthday cj !!

[Morning Tweet]

You guys want to lynch Heaven so mod doesnt need to find a replacement? Or we can wait, whatever is cool.

I kinda feel like NM and Salad are never going to participate enough to find anything AI from them, Hectic is a mystery, and ceejey/boring are town.

[Morning Tweet]

Shiki once said she mind melded with NM when he voted ceejay for borking the thread.

To this day i have no idea what either of them were talking about.

[Morning Tweet]

This is exactly how I exact Salad's town play to look like given his previous games. But he doesn't have a mafia game so i wouldnt know what that's like.

that's basically why im voting heaven

[Morning Tweet]

I have no objections (obviously ig)

I feel like this is our best possible lynch given what's happened so far. There's not a lot Kerset could do to prove that slot is town even if it is town, since the main other candidates are NM and Saladman. it's kinda unfair

[Morning Tweet]

My bet would be that shiki received vigshot from other player, it would explain cejay claims.
Players here might be post restricted but under what punishment? Let's say that there is deadly infection, NK and invented-or-not vig kill. Why would mod also put 4th way to die by accident in micro game? The punishment should be rather infection or NK related

Didn't mod just clarify that receiving an invention doesn't show up in the flip?

I wouldn't overthink the post restriction too much

[Morning Tweet]

This disease mechanic just doesn't quit does it?

[Morning Tweet]

Are you responsible NM?

[Morning Tweet]

Absolutely incredible foresight on picking two people that would survive to LYLO if so

That also explains why you started trusting me yesterday.

One thing though. I am wary of this setup being super fucky. Can you be certain that both the members of the scumteam carry guns?

Also perhaps we could use the vaccine and disease tester before lynching today

[Morning Tweet]

I missed the second part of your post. I have a serious problem with not reading things through

[Morning Tweet]

Why did you pick Hectic on N2 as opposed to NM/Salad?

[Morning Tweet]

Overall I feel it is very likely what you're saying is true. Smart logic on ceejay's role

I was considering why you are a gunsmith as opposed to cop. because we have a vigilante of course. make sense

town gunsmith
town eclipse 8 vigilante neighbour
town neighbour
town neighbour
diseased townie
town post restricted ???
vanilla townie
scum #1
scum #2

I have no idea what the disease is supposed to be for this setup. But having three townies in a neighbourhood and giving the gunsmith a false positive on the vigilante makes sense for setup balance

[Morning Tweet]

Why did you make up the post restriction hectic

pedit: Ok then nevermind

[Morning Tweet]

IM SORRY IM SORRY IM SORRY :c

[Morning Tweet]

@Saladman

What odds do you give on boring being scum here?

[Morning Tweet]

Which would explain how i managed to deceive you

in the event we're in a scenario that must be so high IQ Hectic didnt even think of it. the one where i'm scum and boring is town, and the setup out IQ'd us

[Morning Tweet]

Hectic the 7000 IQ play makes me contemplate us just lynching Saladman instead of NM in the event that scum boring didnt think that we'd think of that

[Morning Tweet]

Wow it's going to be really anticlimactic if the scumteam was really Saladman/NM all along

I think the only other option is boring/Hectic, maybe boring with one of the other two but I find it unlikely

[Morning Tweet]

HURT: and HEAL: are just the custom alternative vote tag names, i wouldnt think too hard abt em

I dont really see how it's important whether or not someone has the disease cause i dont really know what that entails. At this point, i guess it's only possible that mafia spreads the disease yeah? that or it isnt spread by anyone and is a red herring

[Morning Tweet]

Holy shit wait what if it's boring/Not Mafia, and she voted NM first, KNOWING that we'd switch it to Saladman for the aforementioned reasoning, and we're currently playing right into her hands

how many IQ points do you give that play hectic?

[Morning Tweet]

if the scumteam is Salad/NM there is no way they catch that soft claim. unless they've only been

pretending

not to read this whole time

[Morning Tweet]

Still. Your question for boring on why she felt safe enough to soft so hard stands. Since at that point, you could still have been scum in her eyes

[Morning Tweet]

i am going to be really upset if we somehow lose due to failure to use the vaccination/disease testing mechanic properly. like it's barely even something im thinking about cause it seems so unimportant

I assume we're probably going to vaccinate Hectic and i guess we can disease test NM or Salad. i don't really know what i'd do with the information from the disease test

[Morning Tweet]

I was actually kinda hoping ceejay would die so I didn't have to get paranoid about him. Although when i reread some ISOs I still decided i was pretty sure ceejay was town

[Morning Tweet]

i thought the NK was me too

[Morning Tweet]

idk about u hectic but im buying what boring is dishing out

[Morning Tweet]

I townread NM in the game he nightkilled me. i was the only one in the game to TR him. I don't even really know why he killed me.

here's the way the night kill happened in the mafia PT:

NM:

Kill shiki

Saladman: okay

the night ends

[Morning Tweet]

Okay so i'm weighing the pain and anguish I would feel if the scumteam is NM/Saladman and i trick myself into not believing boring and losing, versus being tricked by a boring/XX scumteam and losing

it's not even comparable. based on that alone I feel i cannot vote for anyone other than saladman or NM

[Morning Tweet]

Shiki noted that boring seems to be really likely town here. The two groups thing didn't make a lot of sense to Shiki either, and sometimes boring wasn't reading the most closely (like with ceejay), however, she seems very likely town. In the end, shiki noted that if someone dies from the disease, we should town block boring

Morning, reading back on your reasons for townreading boring start of day, I noticed you didn't actually specify why shiki thought she was town. Additionally, why did

you

- outside of that potential townslip in 342.

Also, are you ready to claim?

All shiki said about boring was that it was really difficult for her to see boring as scum. Perhaps boring kept her options open in lynches too open and her High activity + low activity theory made little sense, but overall it seems more likely boring is town

As for my reasoning, I had a revelation after shiki made that post. I realized that boring either townslipped or faked a townslip. Aside from that, her sudden switch to me being town the next day cemented her as town in my mind. the move didn't make sense for scum, i figured scum would try to get me lynched since it wouldn't be that hard. She pushed the angle that scum killed shiki with the express purpose of it making me more likely to be lynched, and that Morning!scum would never do that. would be very impressed if she's scum

I'm a town neighbour, the same as bugs

Popcorn to Saladman. jk ;-;

[Morning Tweet]

For the record, I'm only really considering boring + Morning or Saladman + Not Mafia.

The other players are far too high IQ for my measly brain to comprehend.

But actual reasons-wise: boring + Not Mafia/Saladman only makes sense if the plan is to get boring lynched here, which in a sense "incriminates" Morning or me to be her partner to be mislynched the next day. I don't think that's what boring's going for here though.

i am conversely considering Boring/Hectic and Saladman/Not_Mafia

And that first option seems incredibly unlikely doesnt it

[Morning Tweet]

For the record, I'm only really considering boring + Morning or Saladman + Not Mafia.

The other players are far too high IQ for my measly brain to comprehend.

But actual reasons-wise: boring + Not Mafia/Saladman only makes sense if the plan is to get boring lynched here, which in a sense "incriminates" Morning or me to be her partner to be mislynched the next day. I don't think that's what boring's going for here though.

*the other plays

Since, if scum!boring's plan is to mislynch the town in [Saladman, Not Mafia], and have her scum buddy not be lynched, it's a terrible idea since it's a 50/50. If her scum buddy ends up being lynched, she then has to explain why she's alive the next day. It's a wacky plan, but I suppose there is the WIFOM defence. Not completely out of the realms of possibility but very unlikely.

theres no way.......right? im gonna go with there's no way

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Oh i'm excited alright!

I'm just entertaining the possibility you're lying cause there's nothing else to do anymore

HURT: Hectic

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I mean... Saladman/NM not being diseased vs being diseased means nothing to me.

I assume Hectic would show up as not diseased

And myself/boring showing up as diseased vs. not diseased also wouldnt really matter. other than it'd be mildly interesting i was diseased without knowing it i guess

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If mafia could control the disease, wouldn't they just have infected Hectic and killed him?

pedit: yeah basically

Is it possible that we lost when ceejay claimed diseased and hectic claimed compromised, but scum missed the mechanic that allowed them to make ceejay kill Hectic? i dont know

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wow why are you both trying to hurt me

it's for your own good !!!

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That is a good point boring

hectic when are you gonna reveal the full nature of your role? i might explode from the anticipation.

i mean, two [REDACTED]s? i can hardly stand it

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hectic when are you gonna reveal the full nature of your role? i might explode from the anticipation.

i mean, two [REDACTED]s? i can hardly stand it

I'll claim once Saladman and Not Mafia have. One of the [REDACTED]s I can't fully explain, but you'll understand why I can't once I finally full claim.

aghhhhh the waiting!! ヽ( ;_; )ﾉ

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Well, at least if scum get an extra kill with the disease mechanic, literally any flip will confirm the team as NM + Salad.

i think in the event that scum just unlocked the ability to disease, it is CRITICAL we vaccinate Hectic so two people can't die

hectic accept your flu shot !!

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Aren't vaccines supposed to be bad for you or something though

i've heard rumours

they're safe i promiseeee (´･ω･｀)

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Well if there's a vigilante and a mafia doctor your role would essentially only exist to hurt us. hectic mentioned that first tho i believe

And then our only PR would be said vigilante. Diseased townie and immunocompromised ????? dont exactly seem to be positive. And the all town neighbourhood is not helping either

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Who we disease testing

also ty Salad, very cool! do we even need to wait for NM's claim?

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You don't put a gunsmith in a set-up without a role that can either give a guilty as town or innocent as scum

shiki has been killed. she was a

town neighbor eclipse 8 vigilante

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i agree!

so you're saying you do think boring is a gunsmith?

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Do you think there'll be anything interesting we can learn from my test result Hectic?

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who'd u watch n1 and n2

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Actually Saladman didn't claim diseased did he

If I were to guess, that means just NM carries the disease in their partnership. Or maybe Saladman lied and didn't notice the whole disease test thing

I'll let you guys decide whether I'm the one to be tested or if not. If it makes Hectic trust me more, then by all means!

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Well boring and NM can't exist together so I'd pick lynching NM first.

will swap to salad if hectic would like that

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I can't be a surgeon. precise tasks are impossible without hands. i just have littl claws on my wings

HEAL: boring

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If either NM or Saladman is town, you'd expect them to at least say a little more

Okay maybe not in the case of NM. I would've thought NM would tell us who he watched on what night though. Can't wait to hear why he didn't watch shiki or ceejay. Especially shiki, if i were paying 0 attention to thread i'd pick shiki just based on her posting size and frequency

Saladman though.

Yeah, I'm actually a multishot bulletproof diseased grenadier JOAT. Nah, I'm just Vanilla, as always

what townie gets pointed to as scum and says this and NOTHING else

pedit: ya basically that

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There's no reason to play out a thousand obscure what-ifs when the path of least resistance aligns with the most likely scenario. You and Morning are both gunless. If you were serial killer, you would have NK'd the conf town from my hard soft (Morning) (not to mention, we'd have seen multiple NKs). If Morning was scum, she'd have NK'd me and used my hard soft to be conf. town today.

did u just give multiple reasons to convince Hectic why he isn't a serial killer

i lov it thank you

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I see your 80% odds its NM/Salad and i raise you 85% odds its NM/Salad

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Nice nice

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(人･∀･) !!

I'd personally pick NM. he is probably the one with the blood of shiki and ceejay on his hands. he needs to be taken down

but i will defer to hectic's pick if he wants salad

VOTE: Not_Mafia

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hey hectic we survived for once!

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Right so the only way Salad isn't scum, is if Hectic is a mafia doctor in a nine player setup where town already has a vigilante to throw off the gunsmith

That'd be really annoying if so

Salad have u got anything to say

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Sure, we don't need to drag it out

VOTE: Salad

(人^∀^)

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I'm going to give 100% odds of that being true. seeing as you didnt quick hammer him and all

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We're just a little bit away from finally living happily ever after !!!

feels nice, although perhaps not as nice as drawing n1 kills as VT. it's a different kind of victory surviving to LYLO

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thank god

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It was a rollercoaster of emotions for me, to be sure

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You underrate yourself, shiki. your reasoning was never really far off the mark. Our talk we had during night 1 in particular was extremely helpful giving me confidence that my reads were correct. Even though i wasn't in your town block, you took the time to discuss the game with me and i really appreciated that

Also it wasn't your fault that i was getting a little upset during d1, it was 100% my bad. it was a result of me taking longer to come to the same conclusion u had on Hectic's alignment. Bugs saw it too, and inevitably it made sense for u two to assume that i could be the scum in the hood. I realized later during night 1 that i was kinda making a leap in logic the whole time, one that you'd seen a lot earlier. i was only upset cause it felt like i was the only person in the game taking the stance i did on hectic + i was getting put at L-1 a bunch

thanks for modding schadd !!

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Hey if it works for you! it's not typical that the two most obvious choices for scum are the actual answer, i think

The possible existence of a PGO influenced you into checking hectic and I first? Great investigative job btw