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Post Post #1112 (isolation #200) » Sat May 30, 2020 10:46 am

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Trusssssst in me.
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Post Post #1114 (isolation #201) » Sat May 30, 2020 10:47 am

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Yep, i getcha. I can manipulate anyone. This is not above my scum game by any means.

But I am town, and I am strong town.

Have faith in meeeeeee
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Post Post #1116 (isolation #202) » Sat May 30, 2020 10:48 am

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@Morning Tweet - My partner would be you or Something Smart, maybe a chance of Porkens.
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Post Post #1117 (isolation #203) » Sat May 30, 2020 10:49 am

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I wanted Clidd as my personal servant, you aren’t necessary, you weren’t here.

I hard hard hard scum read Clidd Day 1 when he actually was scum.
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Post Post #1120 (isolation #204) » Sat May 30, 2020 11:28 am

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I feel like I explained my Cakez read. He’s just genuine with reads specifically towards me, and he’d have been able to take advantage of the gamestate by pushing momentum at me if he were scum.

Him pushing me to flip would have helped scum get TownKMD, if KMD was town and Cakez was scum.

I see absolutely no reason for Cakez, while I was pushing him, to actively avoid pushing.

He just seems like he was willing to let things play out in a way where scum would have needed to assist pushing things through.
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Post Post #1121 (isolation #205) » Sat May 30, 2020 11:29 am

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For what it’s worth, I actually don’t town read MT as strong as I did Clidd.

That’s interesting to me.
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Post Post #1122 (isolation #206) » Sat May 30, 2020 11:31 am

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If KMD-Clidd were scum together, they probably weren’t getting along well aka weren’t on the same page playstyle wise
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Post Post #1123 (isolation #207) » Sat May 30, 2020 11:33 am

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Also, Clidd replacing out essentially confirms Clidd and I weren’t the scum team; that’s never a place where Clidd would replace out of I was his partner in the given gamestate.
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Post Post #1125 (isolation #208) » Sat May 30, 2020 11:35 am

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I think KMD’s the right play today. MT-ABR are my top choices as the partner. If KMD flips scum neighbor, Porkens is essentially conf town in my head, which he already basically is, only thing stopping me is the weird reads, sheeping Knightmare’s mindset accidentally, and the paranoia of them playing a neighbor’s gambit.

However, a Neighborizer, does not confirm either.

SS and I were scum before together and had our partner Scum Neighborize me, so we could pocket the 3rd person in it, which we did and was the swing vote in 7p LYLO to win us the game.
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Post Post #1126 (isolation #209) » Sat May 30, 2020 11:36 am

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@ABR - KMD flip helps us with Porkens, but you probably see that since you’re on KMD
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Post Post #1131 (isolation #210) » Sat May 30, 2020 11:41 am

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I feel like KMD’s potentially pocketed the slot.

Or I’m wrong on KMD, and Porkens is defending the slot he knows will flip town as scum, but I think this isn’t as likely. This isn’t a moon logic theory, either, I think there’s a decent probability of it happening, moreso if I am wrong on KMD.

I’m ready to go to the next day phase by lynching KMD.

@MT - vote KMD?
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Post Post #1132 (isolation #211) » Sat May 30, 2020 11:42 am

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In post 1130, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1127, SirCakez wrote:
In post 1106, Morning Tweet wrote:@Cakes do you still townread ABR? I can recall you mentioning this a couple times during D1 and im curious of what you think of him now
it's lessened now due to POE. The hood changes things, it can't just be KMD/Porkens.
FL won a game as scum claiming 3-man hood with his scumbuddies... it's not a bad idea if you're trying to get at least one scum to the finish line.
Oh yeah, I did that with Tchill and Aristophanes. Forgot about that one too.
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Post Post #1159 (isolation #212) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:41 am

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I killed my best friend, Lief...

I’m Tobin, VT.

I’ve also been getting songs sent to me.

Last night, I got Lady Gaga’s Stupid Love.
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Post Post #1160 (isolation #213) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:43 am

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In post 904, Flavor Leaf wrote:Can i just have one more moon dance with you

All these songs in my head.

I wanna dance with somebody

I stated this yesterday first post of mine in the day. That moon dance was one of the songs in the show
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Post Post #1162 (isolation #214) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 11:44 am

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You.

Night 1, it said i received a song. Night 2 it said a song disturbs my sleep.
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Post Post #1181 (isolation #215) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 6:59 pm

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It’s not me. I just derp tunneled KMD.

I think it’s Porkens and Cakez. I expect to possibly be lynched for this, but that’s where I’m at right now.
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Post Post #1182 (isolation #216) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:00 pm

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I think Cakez over Porkens, though.

Cakez abused my KMD push the most
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Post Post #1183 (isolation #217) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:01 pm

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And now he has the classic scum yips of “ahhh, idk” in lylo. No town knows.
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Post Post #1185 (isolation #218) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:06 pm

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Oh never mind. It’s Cakez and ABR.
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Post Post #1186 (isolation #219) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:06 pm

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I don’t know. I retract my case on Cakez because I’m going through the same thing
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Post Post #1187 (isolation #220) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:08 pm

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In post 1170, SirCakez wrote:If KMD was in a hood why didn't he flip like so?

This actually might be townie
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Post Post #1192 (isolation #221) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:16 pm

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It just seems like a weird post by town. If Cakez is scum, who knows you’re town, then that’s just kind of a weird post to make. Obviously you’d have neighborized him. If Cakez is scum with scum neighborizer, then it’s a shade.

Idk. Gut reacted into a town for it, i don’t have sound logic. I’m just thinking out loud.

Scum definitely see that I’m the highest chance of mislynch for them today, so I’ve accepted I’m likely gonna be the game losing mislynch today after my bad KMD push.

MT slot has been replaced out twice now. I don’t understand why Clidd would replace out as scum when i was pushing KMD as hard as I was. Maybe he thought he was super scummy for defending me?

FWIW, Ceejay didn’t bring up ABR at all, so that could be something. He might not have said anything about me either, though
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Post Post #1196 (isolation #222) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:22 pm

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Flavor/Porkens - this relies on Knightmare and I having to hard scum theatre each other, and I wanted KMD day 1, and knight wouldn’t budge. Fennraiser was someone town reading me. If you think this could be a scum pairing, give some reasons.

Flavor/Cakez - I’ve been flip flopping on this slot all game, i said one of KMD and them are scum, and while i want to believe in that still, i can’t confidently say this right now. Does this pairing make sense to anyone?

Flavor/ABR - ABR came after me hard yesterday when Porkens brought up my double post thing. From my perspective, I think this actually helps me feel easy about there being at least 1 scum in Porkens/ABR, but i don’t know if I think that’s the team. ABR was sheeping me throughout the early game before coming after me until they once again settled and flipped on me. Was this all for show? Was the tunnel then backdrop a performance by them, someone I know appreciates the narrative based on his Mafiascum discussion mafia roles as narrative? If you think this is a possible pairing, say something.

Flavor/MT - i defended and saved Clidd from death. Clidd hard defended me. I understand pairing theories on this one.
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Post Post #1197 (isolation #223) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:23 pm

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I’ll do some analysis on everyone else’s pairings sometime too. Don’t vote prematurely, one wrong vote loses the game.
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Post Post #1199 (isolation #224) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:29 pm

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Nobody in particular, I’m just trying to put all pairings out there, and trying to make sense of why some work, some don’t work.
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Post Post #1200 (isolation #225) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:30 pm

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i will say right now i think I’m leaning ABR/MT
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Post Post #1201 (isolation #226) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:31 pm

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Clidd hard defended me, and ABR hard pushed me yesterday, and by the end of it, they both ended up on the KMD wagon, Clidd slot as the hammer, however.

I could also see ABR being an overbearing partner to the point of having the partner become disinterested, but he just wants to win.
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Post Post #1203 (isolation #227) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:34 pm

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And I typically feel like ABR’s desire to win is in full flame this game, and I think it’s scum indicative. Yes, town want to win too, but I just feel there’s a little differentiating between the 2.

Assuming ABR is town, Cakez/MT, Porkens/MT, Porkens/Cakez has to be one of them.

Are you saying ABR is town? Are you a loyal neighborizer?
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Post Post #1204 (isolation #228) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:34 pm

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Idk which of the 3 pairings i would think it is, in that case, i wasn’t being sarcastic
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Post Post #1246 (isolation #229) » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:53 pm

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In post 1200, Flavor Leaf wrote:i will say right now i think I’m leaning ABR/MT
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Post Post #1247 (isolation #230) » Tue Jun 02, 2020 1:54 pm

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damn porkens. you didnt even let me talk?

I felt I was pretty obviously town. ScumMe pushing townKmd like that would have been really bad.
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Post Post #1254 (isolation #231) » Tue Jun 02, 2020 2:38 pm

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the day just started. I didnt even get time to do my analyzing before I got voted. Always give time in lylo to breathe in case you have tunnel vision.
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Post Post #1261 (isolation #232) » Tue Jun 02, 2020 9:02 pm

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gotta look at the game from bigger picture, Knight.

No worries, Porkens. I understand why it happened, don't get me wrong.

MT's catchup was really good, but it was extremely Information instead of analysis, which is what triggered my scumdar in the first place. I also realized at that time maybe I wasn't right to town read Clidd.

ABR played Day 2 really well when pushing me after Porkens made the double post comment. It also made me want to lynch KMD and ABR harder.

Damn, SS, we had each other correct, we just didn't fully trust. That's a respect to each other's scum game, I guess.
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Post Post #1266 (isolation #233) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:06 am

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Yeah, I'm a cis male, since it seems you were wondering. Extreme ally, though.
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Post Post #1267 (isolation #234) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 5:15 am

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really fun game, though, I enjoyed it.
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Post Post #1273 (isolation #235) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:26 pm

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I really tried saving Fenn. I tried hard, haha
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Post Post #1275 (isolation #236) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:41 pm

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In post 1274, lilith2013 wrote:you're the one who saved clidd from being lynched and forced me to instead divert to a fen lynch because you refused to get back on the clidd wagon, so actually no...?
I don’t envy this, it was day 1. People aren’t expected to have the fully correct reads. If you think for a minute, I wasn’t putting all effort into trying to not have Fennraiser lynched, that’s crazy. I’m allowed to be pocketed, that happens. I also broke out of that tunnel later in the game.

I also believe that if Clidd would have been lynched there, ABR never would have been caught, so I don’t actually regret that part too much either.
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Post Post #1276 (isolation #237) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 1:42 pm

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Deny* no envy, auto corrected.
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Post Post #1281 (isolation #238) » Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:54 pm

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In post 1277, Albert B. Rampage wrote:
In post 1275, Flavor Leaf wrote:I also believe that if Clidd would have been lynched there, ABR never would have been caught, so I don’t actually regret that part too much either.
How come?
You didn’t have any connections towards Clidd at the time, and through a Clidd scum lynch, both Cakez and I were able to go down because of it, and then KMD.

And since ABR is a strong duelist, in a free for all setting where he’s done nothing wrong on a surface level, I don’t expect him to be able to be taken down with the correct night kills, which he made.

2 man scum teams, a scum going down early really just makes the rest of the game a free for all. Day 3 was extremely dangerous for scum here based on how the rest of the game played out, and connections were able to be drawn.

This isn’t always the case with scum going down day 1, especially if there are more than 2.

Regardless, I did stop a scum lynch from happening, but that’s the name of the game sometimes. Scum did well to manipulate the gamestate. KMD I tunneled on, but Clidd played a game specifically to get me to town read him, which was the Day 2 play, which I eventually was able to break out of the trance.

Day 3 we were in a position to break the game open, but scum was able to play against it by playing into Porkens suspicions.

@Farside - Consider me a pre-in for your next game. This was my favorite game in a long time.

ABR, that was some good fun going up against you.

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