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Nope. didn't have a plan. I tried saving Fennraiser, and it was about an hour until deadline when I hammered since it was inevitable.
Provocative double post.
You correctly adjusted “fought like hell” to “tried”, although that might even be too strong because all you did was say “fens town don’t lynch fenn”
Until, that is, you thought you could get something out of hammering, which you explicitly stated.
You were willing to sacrifice clidd, both he and cj were scummy enough for that. But would prefer KMD, a competent player you are right to want to get rid of. And fenn, who you knew would flip town, was ultimately fine and got an added bonus!
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Post #1001 (isolation #8) » Thu May 28, 2020 10:24 am
Postby Porkens »
The KMD confirmation is a separate matter and I have no intention to reveal the source of my read.
Flavors double post was an insightful glance into his thought process, and everyone is able to judge for themselves. I think it reveals his contrivance.
In point of fact I never called him a liar.
I am criticizing and incriminating and no I am not looking to open a channel of communication.
P-edit I have no interest in explaining my reads to YOU as you are scum and will twist whatever I say. But for the town:
All you have to do is look at how the lynch went down. Cj/clidd was on your way to the gallows. KMD was a countereagon attempt, which failed, and fen was the opportune misslynch, which flavor, being the scum not under heavy scrutiny, could capitalize on.
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Post #1007 (isolation #10) » Thu May 28, 2020 10:52 am
Postby Porkens »
In post 1004, Flavor Leaf wrote:oh, porkens is following knightmare's path of going after me, interesting that he's coming aty me in a similar way.
i clicked preview, then it lagged on me, and i lost my words, so i typed the same thing out again, didnt remember the exact words I used, and frankly, it didnt matter to me what I said. if anything that shows that I wasn't really thinking about what was being said.
Nah, you softened it substantially because you wanted it to be true but you are careful of exaggerating. More likely you left the screen to check if there was actually evidence to support the narrative you were constructing.
Nice to see you again btw.
What about clidd, why do you think he’s bending so far backwards to defend you?
In post 1004, Flavor Leaf wrote:oh, porkens is following knightmare's path of going after me, interesting that he's coming aty me in a similar way.
i clicked preview, then it lagged on me, and i lost my words, so i typed the same thing out again, didnt remember the exact words I used, and frankly, it didnt matter to me what I said. if anything that shows that I wasn't really thinking about what was being said.
Nah, you softened it substantially because you wanted it to be true but you are careful of exaggerating. More likely you left the screen to check if there was actually evidence to support the narrative you were constructing.
Nice to see you again btw.
What about clidd, why do you think he’s bending so far backwards to defend you?
In post 1014, Porkens wrote:Ah but aside from cj brings lynchbaity, did you find them town?
Pedit I very much look forward to postgame on this point
Hmm maybe I missed it. You said clidd was being genuine, but were there other things that he and cj did that told you the slot was town?
And why do you think clidd is falling all over himself defending you?
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Post #1049 (isolation #16) » Thu May 28, 2020 1:28 pm
Postby Porkens »
In post 492, Flavor Leaf wrote:I actually can see a KMD-Cakez scum team now that I think about it, and Kmd pushing to me could have been a support in favor of Cakez and Co.
ABR is playing nicely if he’s scum, but I’m in the position where I won’t be able to see that for a bit because it could easily just come from town, and he seems to be asking for my input and genuinely wanting it rather than the usual “gimme input or you’re scum!” I like the working together attitude, which is why I’m town reading there. I’m aware it could be him trying to pocket me, but I’m just putting out what it looks like from my perspective
I’m having a hard time understanding how your read on KMD evolved. Did you, or can you, explain in more detail the strategy which you think KMD was employing here? Where did his actions protect cake?
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Post #1068 (isolation #18) » Thu May 28, 2020 2:20 pm
Postby Porkens »
KMD I hate to ask, but would you mind terribly weighing in here? Not to defend yourself but to give some details on your reads and positions currently?
Thank you very much for taking the time to reach out with your thoughts. I’m sure I speak for everyone when I say that we all really appreciate your input.
As a follow up to your last point, why would that comment be alignment indicative in any way?
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Post #1193 (isolation #38) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:17 pm
Postby Porkens »
Letting kmd die? Where did I let kmd die? I was categorically opposed to kmd lynch 90% of the day. I flipped on the read of your slot because of the amazing catchup post you did but the fact that you come after me now damages that read quite a bit.
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Post #1194 (isolation #39) » Mon Jun 01, 2020 7:19 pm
Postby Porkens »
I read the game from my replacing in and reread it at that point. I was in no way sheeting my predecessors reads, I didn’t even read most of knights posts. I came to the same conclusions-that ain’t my fault and why on earth would I do that as scum when knight was being scumread at that point?
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Post #1214 (isolation #44) » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:57 am
Postby Porkens »
If I’m your strongest town you should be happy I have a good lylo position. Don’t get paranoid about it, for in that direction lies ruin. Who’s the safest lynch here? Right now I want FL. Cakez next. Albert I read as town but he also sets off my tin foil hat. I think your lockdown to me at this point unless you get wiggly
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Post #1216 (isolation #45) » Tue Jun 02, 2020 7:14 am
Postby Porkens »
I’m not taking the song claims too seriously in my considerations. Albert confirms the first song, the second song is a mystery but could be made up. I’m not going to meta read FL’s lack of a PR claim anyway.
The only thing pulling me away from clidd scumread is your Herculean catch-up. I guess I am left with POE cakez and FL. That’s worth a reread I guess.
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Post #1258 (isolation #50) » Tue Jun 02, 2020 6:19 pm
Postby Porkens »
I’ve been stewing all day about this. I let my pent up frustration at the world at large get the better of me and make a hasty bad decision. I typed out “unvote” but then just decided to let it ride. I had second thoughts and I should have listened to them.
MT that catchup was amazing for someone replacing in to scum. I won’t worry about disbelieving that level of effort again.
FL I totally tunneled on you, I wanted my initial read to be right so badly, I never got past it. I have to get over my personal feelings of inadequacy towards you. I don’t want you to fool me, I was so afraid of YOU playing me that I let Albert do it instead. Personal apologies to you.
Albert, I feel like you had me pegged and turned my knobs just right. I was too ready to trust and you got me on a one to one level.
The rest of you townyold well, I didn’t really hard scumread any of you. Sorry to make it all about me, feel like I let town down. Embarrassing but I will definitely learn from it.
