Micro 943: Treestump Express [Game over!]

[votato]

LAMIST

[votato]

If you ain't voting for me, you ain't black

[votato]

bold move insulting the mod's avatar, let's see if it pays off

this is a slip. You basically just admitted that the only reason you ranked nsg's avatar so high was to brown nose

[votato]

VOTE: chemist. L-2

[votato]

why isnt chemist in the thread? that kind of lurking is really scummy

[votato]

serious question, votato

are you actually reading my posts, and if so, are they deeper than surface level

why isnt chemist in the thread? that kind of lurking is really scummy

i think this is an answer

[votato]

the read is pretty weak. actually i probably think chemist is town, but wanted to wagon. im fine with being the lynch today, i think its better if im a stump tomorrow.

chemist, yes i did read your posts. the joke was that i wasnt reading them and didnt think you were posting. whoosh.

[votato]

I still get to talk when I’m dead right?
Ftr I still maintain chemitsry scum.

why?

[votato]

theres that nsg pagetop action i've been missing. i was shocked when the last votecount was midpage

[votato]

i took tuxedos vote less seriously

[votato]

hmm i forgot that quick is in this game. he generally spams threads to death... thats interesting, but i think his inactivity is sitewide. that said, id prefer not to be in a lylo with him, so a PL would be ok. but since everyone just gets treestumped i guess thats not really helpful cuz he can still spam the thread.

[votato]

wait it isnt sitewide. quick is active today elsewhere.

[votato]

I am back up tracker...

is this a legit claim?

[votato]

I am back up tracker...

is this a legit claim?

Is this a legit question?

Is that a serious inquiry?

yes it is.

[votato]

I am back up tracker...

is this a legit claim?

Is this a legit question?

Is that a serious inquiry?

yes it is.

There are no PRs in this game. That is what drew me to it. Seems everything else I knew about the setup was wrong, but I did know there were no PRs.

ok, so you know there are no PRs, yet you claimed PR. what?

[votato]

hence the question

[votato]

I'm just going to pop in and say we should treat L-2 as L-1 since scum can, as stated previously, lolhammer with zero consequences.

For what Hawk said my logic was as Morning Tweet said. It wasn't a great plan, but since I felt pretty good about scum!Chem I wasn't that worried. Probably should have been more cautious in retrospect. Though I am happy to consider Conspire completely off the lynch table for today.

Also minor thing, eople can just call me Tux. I think some people have called me TM and if others will call Morning Tweet MT that's going to get confusing fast. At least to me.

Tux, I don't understand what you are saying here, can you explain better why you feel like Conspire should be completely off the lynch table today?

Right, I'll try my best to break it down.

When Chem was at L-1 there were three possible scenarios 1: Both scum were already on the wagon 2: Chem was scum 3: Chem was town and at least one scum was off the wagon. I had a scum read on Chem because of the self vote, and liked Porkins and Votato for the way they joined the wagon, so I'm living in a solid scenario two world. So each person to not hammer Chem was narrowing my PoE, because it made them more likely town and Chem more likely to be scum. Once the PoE is thoroughly completed it doesn't matter who Chem's partner because we only need to catch one, unless scum is in the initial wagon, which at the time I found unlikely. Is it a bad plan? Yes. But that's where my head was at.

As for why we clear Conspire today? Because there is no world where Conspire is scum without Chem being scum.

eh this logic doesn't prove anything, just nudges probabilities

[votato]

The odds are 0 that both scum are on the same town. Pretty high that they are on town or not voting ?

[votato]

VOTE: porkens

[votato]

mostly the avatar

[votato]

hint: it wasnt (entirely) the avatar

[votato]

it was also the username

[votato]

yeah i dont like the ISO. theres no content, but a lot of votes.

[votato]

why?

[votato]

and what have you given up? i dont wanna be the one to squeeze you though, gross

[votato]

btw i think prohawk can be town.

[votato]

what can i do to earn your vote? Or at least your top scum read

[votato]

Well that particular bat is cute

[votato]

Spoiler: pork posts

Ugh this game is impenetrable to me this morning.

I am back up tracker...

is this a legit claim?

Is this a legit question?

Is that a serious inquiry?

yes it is.

There are no PRs in this game. That is what drew me to it. Seems everything else I knew about the setup was wrong, but I did know there were no PRs.

ok, so you know there are no PRs, yet you claimed PR. what?

this is a scummy post
you are trying to throw shade
with a transparent umbrella

Hmmm who’s just ice skating here...

VOTE: ceejay[/v]

i like pork a bit more from these posts. Leaning on 106 being genuine. i like the way he confidently calls a post by votato scummy. Vote on ceejay i simultaneously sort of like cause he's in my PoE but also could just be fake scumhunting

Spoiler: other pork posts

I'm not scum always

dumbell, Porkens; I'm saying the motive to dumbtell exists for scum.

~Cosmic

SLIP?!

nope, seems you are pretty in tune with the scum mindset.

Okay these seem sort of awkward. im keepin my eye on pork for now

was my post scummy though? It seems like that would have been an obvious scumslip if it were a serious claim, and worth following up on

[votato]

Conspire,MT
Tux,pro hawk,quick
Check,contato,chem

check is cj?

[votato]

UNVOTE:

[votato]

i am alone in voting pork

uh, hi, there was a vote count literally three posts above this, which said there were two votes on pork. pork is now at L-2 with my unvote.

[votato]

Spoiler:

I think that it's very likely 1-2 scum voted for Chem (or Chem is scum), since Chem got left at L-1 for around 3 hours.

Chemist <<

ProHawk

,

TuxedoMask

, Votato, Porkens [L-1]

Spoiler: wagon reactions

Conspire did not hammer.
Chem did not self-hammer.
ProHawk unvoted nervously.
(Pork, votato, Tuxedo were on wagon)
(Morning, Ceejay, Quick, did not post)

I read the thread but didn't check to see if Chem was actually at L-1 or not. Ceejay probably didn't open the thread during that timeframe. And Quick has admitted to not realizing this game existed at the time.

I like Conspire, ProHawk, and TuxedoMask for town. If these are correct, scum is left in: {Chem, Quick, ceejay, Pork, votato}

The wagoned herself, two people who likely didn't have the chance to respond to the wagon, and two people who joined the wagon.

If Chem is town, the likeliest teams are probably a voter {Pork/Votato} + a inactive {Quick/Ceejay}. Possibly Quick + Ceejay as well
If Chem is scum, the likeliest teams are probably Chem + {Votato/Quick/Ceejay}.

I wonder if scum would be as so bold to try and distance/bus early. I'm not counting votato's vote on Chem as a bus since he voted her early on the wagon and now they both townread each other i think

Let's assume Conspire/ProHawk/Tux are town and scum doesn't bus/distance early (with the exception of votato/Chem). What teams would there be?

Spoiler: vote history

Chem -> Chem, Tuxedo, Quick
Quick -> .... Ceejay (with Pork)
Ceejay -> Conspire .... (kinda thinks a votato post is weird)
Pork -> Chem, Ceejay
Votato -> Chem, Pork

-====================-

Spoiler: current actions

Chem voted Quick for pressure, has a townread on votato
Quick is helping Pork vote ceejay. Quick seems to like Pork more than votato
Ceejay has mentioned a votato post being weird, not a lot else
Pork is voting ceejay for pressure
Votato turned around and thinks Chem is town. He doesn't like ceejay, nor does he like Pork. he also questioned Quick a bunch

-====================-

Spoiler: team speculation

Pork

+

Quick

+

Pork

+

Ceejay

-

Votato

+

Quick

--

Votato

+

Ceejay

--

Chem

+

Votato

++

Chem

+

Quick

-

Chem

+

Ceejay

Quick

+

Ceejay

-

-====================-

Spoiler: leftover teams (if scum doesn't want to pressure each other)

Pork

+

Quick

Chem

+

Votato

Chem

+

Ceejay

So this would suggest Chem is teamed with votato or ceejay, otherwise the team is Pork/Quick

I don't really trust this because of all the assumptions it makes, but it was still interesting to do

I think if i rated my PoE on their individual chances of being scum, id go something like Pork>Ceejay>Quick>Votato>Chem. If I think Chem/votato are town, then Pork suddenly has a high chance of being scum as well

VOTE: Pork

i also dont see how any of this says tuxedo is town. and i get that its from your pov, but to the rest of us you are still possible scum. you were widely townread prior to that post, but i dont really super like that post. i really super dont like your error on the VC.

[votato]

EBWOP. @NSG, please feel free to delete the quote attempt entirely from my previous post for brevity and clarity

Spoiler:

I think that it's very likely 1-2 scum voted for Chem (or Chem is scum), since Chem got left at L-1 for around 3 hours.

Chemist <<

ProHawk

,

TuxedoMask

, Votato, Porkens [L-1]

Spoiler: wagon reactions

Conspire did not hammer.
Chem did not self-hammer.
ProHawk unvoted nervously.
(Pork, votato, Tuxedo were on wagon)
(Morning, Ceejay, Quick, did not post)

I read the thread but didn't check to see if Chem was actually at L-1 or not. Ceejay probably didn't open the thread during that timeframe. And Quick has admitted to not realizing this game existed at the time.[poiler]I like Conspire, ProHawk, and TuxedoMask for town. If these are correct, scum is left in: {Chem, Quick, ceejay, Pork, votato}

The wagoned herself, two people who likely didn't have the chance to respond to the wagon, and two people who joined the wagon.

If Chem is town, the likeliest teams are probably a voter {Pork/Votato} + a inactive {Quick/Ceejay}. Possibly Quick + Ceejay as well
If Chem is scum, the likeliest teams are probably Chem + {Votato/Quick/Ceejay}.

I wonder if scum would be as so bold to try and distance/bus early. I'm not counting votato's vote on Chem as a bus since he voted her early on the wagon and now they both townread each other i think

Let's assume Conspire/ProHawk/Tux are town and scum doesn't bus/distance early (with the exception of votato/Chem). What teams would there be?

Spoiler: vote history

Chem -> Chem, Tuxedo, Quick
Quick -> .... Ceejay (with Pork)
Ceejay -> Conspire .... (kinda thinks a votato post is weird)
Pork -> Chem, Ceejay
Votato -> Chem, Pork[soiler]-====================-

Spoiler: current actions

Chem voted Quick for pressure, has a townread on votato
Quick is helping Pork vote ceejay. Quick seems to like Pork more than votato
Ceejay has mentioned a votato post being weird, not a lot else
Pork is voting ceejay for pressure
Votato turned around and thinks Chem is town. He doesn't like ceejay, nor does he like Pork. he also questioned Quick a bunch[siler]-====================-[spoler=team speculation]

Pork

+

Quick

+

Pork

+

Ceejay

-

Votato

+

Quick

--

Votato

+

Ceejay

--

Chem

+

Votato

++

Chem

+

Quick

-

Chem

+

Ceejay

Quick

+

Ceejay

-[spler]-====================-

Spoiler: leftover teams (if scum doesn't want to pressure each other)

Pork

+

Quick

Chem

+

Votato

Chem

+

Ceejay

[/oiler]
So this would suggest Chem is teamed with votato or ceejay, otherwise the team is Pork/Quick

I don't really trust this because of all the assumptions it makes, but it was still interesting to do

I think if i rated my PoE on their individual chances of being scum, id go something like Pork>Ceejay>Quick>Votato>Chem. If I think Chem/votato are town, then Pork suddenly has a high chance of being scum as well

VOTE: Pork

i also dont see how any of this says tuxedo is town. and i get that its from your pov, but to the rest of us you are still possible scum. you were widely townread prior to that post, but i dont really super like that post. i really super dont like your error on the VC.

[votato]

That North side edit seemed perfectly timed to make us both look bad.

VOTE: Pork

No one else vote this. We got lucky with no scum hammer once, let's not tempt it again.

wait hang on, here you say you're aware of the VC, so that means you knowingly put the wagon to L-1 while saying we shouldnt put the wagon to L-1?

[votato]

@North can you explain that the vote count came AFTER Morning Tweet said how many people voted Porkins?

but it came before your vote. and in your vote post, which is timed AFTER the vote count, you acknowledge that the edit makes you look bad, yet you vote anyway. and there were already two votes, then MT voted, then you voted. thats 4 votes, or L-1. i put us back down to L-2.

[votato]

That North side edit seemed perfectly timed to make us both look bad.

VOTE: Pork

No one else vote this. We got lucky with no scum hammer once, let's not tempt it again.

this post was at 11:37 my time. the edit was at 11:35. you said "That North side edit seemed perfectly timed to make us both look bad." except the edit would only make you look bad if you had already voted innocently, and now were caught. the easy fix would be to unvote though, and all would be well and right. Instead, you VOTE....

UNVOTE: porkens and instead VOTE: tuxedo

[votato]

the sequence of events was:
1) votecount placeholder earlier in the day
2) MT posts saying porkens is likely scum and votes there
3) tuxedo asks how many people are voting porkens
4) MT says just her
5) VC is added to placeholder post
6) tuxedo acknowledges seeing the VC and votes anyway.

i guess MT's vote was a re-vote on the same slot though, so it was only L-2.

[votato]

ok it isnt as bad as i initially thought, since MT double-voted the same slot. still though, that was.... strange?

[votato]

VOTE: tux oh god please stop I’m not scum

and then porkens comes and restores my faith in my previous vote. I'll leave it on tuxedo for now until other people come and tell me either that im crazy or that my vote is in a healthy place.

[votato]

@North can you explain that the vote count came AFTER Morning Tweet said how many people voted Porkins?

That is really angleshooty and that usually comes from Scum, just saying.

What do you mean by this? The VC got edited in after we made those posts. It was a "-" before. Angleshooty?

Is this a chainsaw? Honest answers only (otherwise I am aiming at Paragon at this point).

uh is paragon a head of conspire? i dont think paragon is in this game

[votato]

MT the reason we are all asking about tux based on your 251 is that you seem to eliminate tux from your PoE out of the blue. he doesnt seem to be logically cleared even if the not hammering=town thing is true. your seemingly random clear on tux combined with your exchange with tux immediately following really really struck me as bad.

[votato]

this is almost so blatantly scummy, i'm not even sure if it is scummy

VOTE: tux oh god please stop I’m not scum

~Esper

although i 100% agree, this post almost feels like scum distancing after scumbuddy did an oopsie.

[votato]

this is almost so blatantly scummy, i'm not even sure if it is scummy

VOTE: tux oh god please stop I’m not scum

~Esper

although i 100% agree, this post almost feels like scum distancing after scumbuddy did an oopsie.

If scum team is Conspire and me, you'd have to answer why Conspire wouldn't hammer Chem when they had a chance? So I could make Lylo me, you, and Porkins.

so you could run the WIFOM "conspire didnt hammer, ergo town" argument. actually, didnt that logic come from you initially, tux?

[votato]

this is almost so blatantly scummy, i'm not even sure if it is scummy

VOTE: tux oh god please stop I’m not scum

~Esper

although i 100% agree, this post almost feels like scum distancing after scumbuddy did an oopsie.

Not sure I'm following; are you saying this looks like a pork/tux pair distancing?

~Esper

p-edit: oh you mean pork/us?
p-edit: super nevermind

i giggled

[votato]

this is almost so blatantly scummy, i'm not even sure if it is scummy

VOTE: tux oh god please stop I’m not scum

~Esper

although i 100% agree, this post almost feels like scum distancing after scumbuddy did an oopsie.

If scum team is Conspire and me, you'd have to answer why Conspire wouldn't hammer Chem when they had a chance? So I could make Lylo me, you, and Porkins.

so you could run the WIFOM "conspire didnt hammer, ergo town" argument. actually, didnt that logic come from you initially, tux?

That sounds less useful than just having Conspire lolhammer. also i feel like Conspire totally would have lolhammered regardless

Only the dark one. And I think the pink one has a leash on the dark one.

isnt that both racist and sexist?

[votato]

could also just be really really kinky

[votato]

Only the dark one. And I think the pink one has a leash on the dark one.

fair enough! (^▽^)

i maintain that if Conspire is scum and Chem is town, they would have just hammered though. Less info is better for scum, there's no reason to give themselves towncred just to lose it to WIFOM in lylo

i really tried to read this post, but the bat distracted me. so cute.

[votato]

Only the dark one. And I think the pink one has a leash on the dark one.

fair enough! (^▽^)

i maintain that if Conspire is scum and Chem is town, they would have just hammered though. Less info is better for scum, there's no reason to give themselves towncred just to lose it to WIFOM in lylo

i really tried to read this post, but the bat distracted me. so cute.

sweating

you were supposed to convince me you're scum.... not pocket me........

doesnt the pocket attempt come across as pretty scummy? if not, i guess it worked!

[votato]

https://www.frixo.com/sbook/articles/wh ... ooting.asp

i think this might be what he means? not totally sure how it applies

[votato]

Yeah sure there's overlap, but angle shooting refers to exploiting an inexperienced player. Is that what you think tux was doing? If so, who?

[votato]

what made you change your tune on porkens, MT?

[votato]

Brotato keeps confusing me with his posts.

thats just because our alignments are different.

[votato]

Cute

unlike you

[votato]

attack me back pls

[votato]

@North can you explain that the vote count came AFTER Morning Tweet said how many people voted Porkins?

That is really angleshooty and that usually comes from Scum, just saying.

What do you mean by this? The VC got edited in after we made those posts. It was a "-" before. Angleshooty?

Is this a chainsaw? Honest answers only (otherwise I am aiming at Paragon at this point).

'
Not a chainsaw.

Not seeing why Tuxedo is Town here...

Why didn't you vote me here?

Quick's iso is extremely poor, basically no content in the entire thing. Pretty much skimming buy, spent most of their time explaining how they got the rules wrong.

@Quick what is your scum read of me? Right now it seems mostly based on things Morning has said and done. So why not vote them?

VOTE: Quick

OMGUS... By definition.

I can go into it...

I don't see the utility of not going past L-2. That doesn't seem like a good idea in hindsight because it makes it a lot easier for Scum to manipulate the wagons since they have 2 votes between them and everyone else only has one. Let's start with that. Otherwise, at what point do you think we actually vote to lynch? That's breaking the fundamentals of the game, bro.

except you can be at L-2 with someone else saying "i vote (but not really actually vote) scum1"

[votato]

also

@NSG: even I will flip upon stumping?

[votato]

this really isnt quicks town meta

[votato]

as town quick is much more vocal and engaged. the thread would be at 40 pages of him saying one thing, posting 5 more times, then saying the opposite, then posting 5 more times, and then saying the initial thing again but for a different reason.

[votato]

Now that I've thought about it more I'd like to point out that if I'm scum my partner would probably be the one on lylo.

why is that?

[votato]

Quick do you have anything to say aboutt to what tux just said?

Yeah, it's wrong. My play as Scum is usually more nuanced than that. If you read the Scum Chat for that game, it will be more clear.

Is your disagreement that the game is outside your meta, or that wasn't your plan that game? Causing reading the mafia PT now the first thing you say is "Distance Hard and we win." And your two teammates both died for continually trying to lynch you.

The key is in distance. I never advocated bussing, that was Rock that was cool with it and I did actually try and save Crazee.

Hmm, talking with Rock in the dead chat gave me a different impression. Though it was still a heavy bussing game, and it helped you win. But I'll admit, after reading the scum chat, that is an incorrect interpretation of your scum game. More of just your specific team than anything.

Am I allowed to link off-site games, if people wanna read them?

as long as they are finished

[votato]

i guess my preferred lynches for today are tuxedo, porkens, cj, MT.

[votato]

Votato says this is his scum meta. Esper also alluding to it being his scum meta I believe (?). Youre gunning for him. and finally, he replaced out mysteriously

I see that Quick isnt a preferred lynch of votatos, so like, what happened there @votato?

i didnt say this is his scum meta. it just isnt his normal town meta so im not sure whats going on. and he replaced himself, hes playing on his main now rather than an alt. i guess id go for a quick lynch too.

[votato]

also

@NSG: even I will flip upon stumping?

What'd you mean by this, votato?

oh given the nature of my role i was wondering if i would flip

[votato]

also

@NSG: even I will flip upon stumping?

What'd you mean by this, votato?

oh given the nature of my role i was wondering if i would flip

Oh the nature of your role? Do tell...

because im scum

[votato]

That seems like an attempt to push a scum agenda of me/votato as the lynches

votato will tell you I do that as Town, watch.

you do flip flop and get overconfident, but you dont normally claim that me shitposting is AI. normally you ignore it. why youre suddenly saying its scummy in this game is questionable.

here is my scum meta. can you spot any differences?

[votato]

haha my lynchpool is way oversized i have no idea.

[votato]

im kinda leaning towards lynching someone who is really hard to sort to make lylo easier. but thats probably not ideal.

[votato]

i do not want to lynch conspire, misty, NSG, prohawk. MT i go back and forth on. I like MT for town but kinda feel like ive been pocketed. and there were some posts and reads that just seemed odd or opportunistic.

[votato]

i claim scum in almost every game though. its either gratitude to random.org or wishful thinking, depending on my alignment.

[votato]

i think i've figured out my MT read. i think that the slot is kinda scummy, but i really dont want to vote or FoS MT, she seems too sweet to be scum!

[votato]

but being too sweet to be scum makes me even more suspicious because i dont want to be manipulated into a town read... :/

[votato]

so me figuring something out and getting unfrozen comes across to you as me being frozen?

and MT i think id lynch tuxedo or porkens over you.

actually, just did a quick skim through porkens' iso and theres no real scumhunting in there. that's my preferred lynch.

[votato]

where is my vote right now? is it not on porkens?

[votato]

ah its on tuxedo. VOTE: porkens

[votato]

isnt it because cj has conveniently disappeared? im willing to vote MT. her voting pattern is kinda opportunistic, and she always seems to be voting where she thinks momentum is headed.

[votato]

youre supposed to be in my pocket so i dont like that you FoS me. its not cute when you FoS me. it does excite me in other ways though. DM me for more info.

[votato]

youre supposed to be in my pocket so i dont like that you FoS me. its not cute when you FoS me. it does excite me in other ways though. DM me for more info.

who

are you talking to

you

[votato]

im certainly willing to compromise on morning. there are definitely scummy things. but ill just feel really bad if morning is town and im on the wagon...

[votato]

yeah id be fine with a tux lynch. i prefer a MT lynch strongly over a misty lynch. im willing to hammer either one if no consensus is reached. ill be around.

[votato]

LHF?

i dont townread ceejay, nor would i be surprised at either possible result of his flip. it wasnt my intention to make it sound any other way

i am going to dieeeeee

On one hand i dont want to be the lynch. but like on the other, if i am gonna be so suspected that i get brought to 3p, id rather not have to deal with that LYLO pressure and get it out of the way now.

thats the second time youve talked about how ok you are with being lynched. kinda feels like a LAMIST AtE flail.

[votato]

just post the link and we can click? super inconvenient for us, but *shrug*

[votato]

its because its not a gif but an mp4

[votato]

youll find that in life very often youll have trouble posting gifs when in fact they arent gifs at all, but rather are mp4s

[votato]

thats the second time youve talked about how ok you are with being lynched. kinda feels like a LAMIST AtE flail.

(>﹏<) you've done the same thing votato

im fine with being the lynch today, i think its better if im a stump tomorrow.

i think you just want me to see me as scummy at this point so u can feel better about killin me. which is perfectly acceptable, i wouldnt have it any other way

well i did specify that doing it twice was what struck me. the first time was fine, but the repetition felt odd? or maybe its fair enough to be sad if youre dying. at least you arent really dying

[votato]

i kinda like looking at the base of your trunk anyway. im sure youll make a very nice stump. although i should say that your blossoms are what really get me.

[votato]

VOTE: MT so it isnt a tie. sorryy!!!!

[votato]

as per last vote count it was 3-3, right?

[votato]

I forgive you so long as you arent scum!

are you scum tho?

[votato]

are we sure it's a plurality lynch??? i can't believe we're in this situation rn

~esper

just checked the rules. theres even a clause for ties.

[votato]

im not :c

if you were scum what would you say?

[votato]

NSG has our backs. too bad shes also evil and put some big mean scum amongst us.

[votato]

im not :c

if you were town what would you say?

[votato]

im not :c

if you were town what would you say?

Idk. Probably would have had more power behind it. maybe gotten a stronger emoticon

so we win?

[votato]

NSG is here, but just waiting for us to post so she can get pagetop

[votato]

gg, it was fun. sorry you were scum hope you can townblock with me next time ))

[votato]

I can't tell if Morning is trolling or scumclaiming.

~Cosmic

gold. love the wink

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this entire playerlist was really fun. thanks guys. sorry if i was a bit lurky at times, was just overgamed and busy.

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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

~votato

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im a bit sad that cj just lurked... also im a bit upset at you for rolling scum, MT

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maybe she's waiting for page 30 pagetop

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i feel bad that my lynchpool was half the playerlist. i feel good that at least i had both scum in there

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for game end shes probably gonna want to wait for an interesting pagetop like a round number or maybe a prime number. i think the next prime is 37, but maybe she'll settle for 35? i hope she doesnt want page 50

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i feel like most of the slots that were harder to sort are dead. thats good. i feel like it was a mistake to kill me, im always obvscum and a good lynch. suckers.

this is still not chem's scum meta afaik. conspire, thoughts on that?

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can we get a prod on ceejay? he was replaced due to inactivity in another game (i hope that isnt a rule violation?). hasnt posted here in 3.5 days, although i realize much of that was night.

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MT im still super sorry for lynching you. you kinda deserve it for toying with us like that though.

Also, it was kinda hot to tie you up and search you while you teased us like that...

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what is the "valid point" porkens is sheeping to put the wagon back at L-1 there? i cant see it

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is it likely that misty is scum based on that?

also, MT why did you pick cj as scumbuddy when you were mean yesterday in twilight? could that be why cj is still alive?

also, im pretty sure that prohawk is scum here. can we lynch that?

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also it seems strange for the scumpair to be porkens and prohawk, the reasoning for stumping prohawk is that he was too townie perhaps? maybe it actually makes most sense to stump prohawk with any partner as he was townread by everyone.

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Reads:

Tuxedo
Morning
Misty
Quick
Ceejay
ProHawk
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Porkens

~Cosmic

wow I'm scummier than the flipped scum? I've never been so proud in my life!

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im betting on chem atm actually

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I really don't like Porkens putting me back at L-1 after conspire pretended to hammer

Why don't you like this?

~esper

youre supposed to be V/LA. shut up.

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hmm actually i think thats true. also a few things strike me as WIFOM bait but probably townie. like wasnt it chem who said we shouldnt trust MT in twilight? and i still dont think this is misty's scum-meta. and i also just get some townie vibes. jeez its a good thing im dead so i can speak my mind and be scummily wishy-washy.

scum really are suckers for stumping me.

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like pork is definitely lynchbait, but lynchbait is also lynchbait for a reason.

you took #1 spot on my bat-list by the end of the day. above batman, dracula, and even Zubat.

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I’m not lynchbait at all. My push on chem was widely supported by other town.

and what happened to that today?

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Yeah ceejay was inactive during the night phase in pretty sure. I think we can rule out ceejay for that alone

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if i were scum and my partner didnt log onto the site i wouldnt stump myself and just pray that the replacement did a good job.

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VOTE: porkens

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i stand by what i said. you can lynch me if im wrong tomorrow about ceejay/beeboy being town. also im bad at this game so dont listen to me

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since im dead and flipped town i get to say whatever the fuck i want. and since you're alive and scum you get to ignore the fuck out of me.

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someone going completely inactive on the site is not information pertaining to a specific game. sucks for you that you picked someone to keep in lylo that hasnt logged into the site in almost a week.

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me saying that cj has gone inactive site-wide

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What the fuck are you even talking abou votato

Cosmic: votato is embarrassing himself in the politics thread and taking his impotent rage out on this one.

seems like someone's plan got foiled and now they're throwing a fit.

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Ceejay was last seen during the night though (3rd June), so the point is completely moot.

Why does it even anger you if it has potential to clear someone, Porkens? Don't you want to lynch scum of the two?

~Cosmic

Either I'm not being clear or I'm missing something. My "lol shut up post" was in reaction to votato naked voting me after being humiliated in the politics thread. I wasn't commenting on CJ in any way whatsoever.

oh thats what you think was happening? lol. nawh fam. im voting you because of your posting here. although if you're bringing in personal bias against me from out of game, that would explain the fit youre throwing.

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Bullshit, explain your read progression (great I know you are but what am I defense have you considered running for president?)

i dont understand the bit in parentheses. i already explained though.

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porkens - i hope you dont actually feel like im bringing in personal bias. i might be a little lazy with showing progressions but i posted that vote before i even saw you posted in the politics thread. i do think your response was a bit scummy but i guess i could buy that you were offput by outside stuff

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i knew tuxedo was scum all along. shoulda stuck with my gut

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yeah there are a bunch of reasons it isnt ceejay. im still pretty convinced that its porkens, but could be talked into chem maybe.

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I'm willing to touch tips with misty

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Hello Esper!!!

I am going to do the real 5head play and meta prohawk and see what his inclination to bus is.

@Mod is prohawk allowed to post?

^ if he can he is a coward.

I take offense.

thats doesnt count as a prodge, as there's no game-advancing content, yes?

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VOTE: porkens

prohawk really couldnt be in f3 because scum would never let town!prohawk live after everyonw townread him

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VOTE: Chem[/vote I'm prepared to look a fool and die on this hill.

dont worry you already look like a fool, so you might as well vote for a townie

Spoiler:

:^)

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i dont like how porkens came into lylo shifting from pushing chem to cj/bb tbh

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hot take: its really beeboy and hes just toying with us

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I'm willing to crossvote Porkens at this point

what suddenly made you so sure that bb was town? you rejected my logic about it just a few posts earlier.

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Man if Chemist is hard outplaying me by just playing this lylo as awful as possible from a scum POV.
I feel really outplayed because I am falling for it.

man I feel dirty that this is an argument you have to consider

yeah please play a better scumgame

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ok, porkens is town

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that picture is on the same level as my avatar

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its gotta be porkens right? gotta be. chem is pure bait that most of us wanted to lynch yesterday, and porkens pivots off a scumread to go for a lurker slot. the progression doesnt seem natural. and yet yesterday misty was locktown for me, but today im not sure at all.

scum shoulda just left me alive so we could mislynch me and be done with it. ughhhh

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This is where I'm at, my head says lynch Chem but my Ego says lynch Porkens. Because I'd much rather be in a world where I'm either wrong/win or right/lose. Then if we lynch Porkens and I risking losing and being wrong.

This is a very valid concern, I see your issue here.

i mean from an ego PoV but i dont think thats how we should make our decision here

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for the record, i wont complain if we lynch misty and get a scumflip. i might complain if misty flips town though.

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But I can't just defy democracy you know, the town will flame me if I am wrong.

no matter what you choose, you've done a great job repping in !!

if MT is scum she has me totally pocketed.

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Hmm, I haven't ruled it out yet. That heart is suspiciously very red.

~Cosmic

was meant to be white -- its pure and innocent, just like me!

racism!

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The purity vs the guy that has no business being in a lylo.

This is oddly hard.

is it though? its porkens, and porkens is sad right about now.

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I am quite convinced that porkens is scum. Does anyone want to discuss more? I dont know how well i can articulate why its porkens - its mostly gut. i will say that i have an absolutely enormous gut though.

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what do you fill that gut with?

small children and baby animals mostly. not bats.

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gg everyone, was very fun, would have loved to play for more than just two days with you all. well done to NSG, well done modding and with the set-up as per usual.

also,

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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oh well, was still a blast playing with you all.

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lesson learned, always sheep votato.

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i also think any lylo with me in it is good for scum, unless im scum.

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yes well played, it was very difficult, and even if i did think it was porkens i wasnt sure at all

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Esper controls the hydra over Cosmic

i mean to clarify i feel bad about this; maybe i was too domineering. cosmic had much better reads than me. i will sheep him next time.

~esper

feel free to dominate me if you want.

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also thank you to nsg for modding!! i really enjoyed the flavour/story!

~esper

+5

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quality.