Micro 943: Treestump Express [Game over!]

[Porkens]

/procession_protocol.run

Checking luggage allowance...
Loading up train music....

Commencing protocol.

Procession Protocol:

1) What is your favourite kind of train?
2) What would you love to train in?
3) If you had to train a camera at one thing, what would it be?
4) What is your favourite train of events in world history?

~Cosmic

Bullet
Allyship
Something pretty
Moonshot

[Porkens]

VOTE: Porkins Your picture scares me.

Sorry about that darrien

[Porkens]

It’s a valid point VOTE: chemist

[Porkens]

I’m not sure where this train goes, so I’m just holding on till the next stop.

[Porkens]

Not l-2?

I’m cynical. You say you cleared yourself by offering to be lynched, that should be followed up on IMO

[Porkens]

It makes sense though, someone who volunteers to be lynched and is willing to go through with it is clear. Now someone
Volunteering to be lynched to look town and then backing off in terror when it looks like it might happen...

More likely a bluff than a joke.

[Porkens]

I still get to talk when I’m dead right?
Ftr I still maintain chemitsry scum.

[Porkens]

I see no reason why town would react with as much fear as she did.

[Porkens]

The fear is the in self ore and the “hey lynch me to prove I’m town” to “woah wish woah don’t lynch me”

[Porkens]

VOTE: unvote I’m not feeling it this morning. Coffe then more layerZ

[Porkens]

Ugh this game is impenetrable to me this morning.

[Porkens]

I am back up tracker...

is this a legit claim?

Is this a legit question?

[Porkens]

I am back up tracker...

is this a legit claim?

Is this a legit question?

Is that a serious inquiry?

yes it is.

There are no PRs in this game. That is what drew me to it. Seems everything else I knew about the setup was wrong, but I did know there were no PRs.

ok, so you know there are no PRs, yet you claimed PR. what?

this is a scummy post
you are trying to throw shade
with a transparent umbrella

[Porkens]

Scum motive is to dumbtell and imply you don't know the setup suggesting you're confused/lost town rather than scum who would care more to be aware of the setup.

Could you spell out what you thought it was for me please?

~Cosmic

seems like you are confident about how scum feel
do you always put yourself if scum shoes?
or did you just wind up there this game?

[Porkens]

I'm not scum always

dumbell, Porkens; I'm saying the motive to dumbtell exists for scum.

~Cosmic

SLIP?!

[Porkens]

nope, seems you are pretty in tune with the scum mindset.

[Porkens]

nope, seems you are pretty in tune with the scum mindset.

wut?

For reals tho, what are your reads?

no u

[Porkens]

it was a j o k e

Kinda get Town vibes from this... Getting lynched for no reason kind sucks ass and I buy the frustration to be perfectly honest.

As did i

[Porkens]

I'm just going to pop in and say we should treat L-2 as L-1 since scum can, as stated previously, lolhammer with zero consequences.

For what Hawk said my logic was as Morning Tweet said. It wasn't a great plan, but since I felt pretty good about scum!Chem I wasn't that worried. Probably should have been more cautious in retrospect. Though I am happy to consider Conspire completely off the lynch table for today.

Also minor thing, eople can just call me Tux. I think some people have called me TM and if others will call Morning Tweet MT that's going to get confusing fast. At least to me.

Tux, I don't understand what you are saying here, can you explain better why you feel like Conspire should be completely off the lynch table today?

Right, I'll try my best to break it down.

When Chem was at L-1 there were three possible scenarios 1: Both scum were already on the wagon 2: Chem was scum 3: Chem was town and at least one scum was off the wagon. I had a scum read on Chem because of the self vote, and liked Porkins and Votato for the way they joined the wagon, so I'm living in a solid scenario two world. So each person to not hammer Chem was narrowing my PoE, because it made them more likely town and Chem more likely to be scum. Once the PoE is thoroughly completed it doesn't matter who Chem's partner because we only need to catch one, unless scum is in the initial wagon, which at the time I found unlikely. Is it a bad plan? Yes. But that's where my head was at.

As for why we clear Conspire today? Because there is no world where Conspire is scum without Chem being scum.

Self voting usually comes from Town, sadly.

Do you data?

[Porkens]

Hmmm who’s just ice skating here...

VOTE: ceejay[/v]

[Porkens]

Help me pressure cerjay

[Porkens]

why?

Because they haven’t given anything up - needs squeezing

[Porkens]

Personal attack.

I don’t have a lot to work with here but I’m tryin

[Porkens]

Ish

[Porkens]

btw i think prohawk can be town.

Think I agree

Spoiler: towniest pings to least towniest

Chem
ProHawk
Quick
-
Tux
Conspire
-
ceejay
-
votato
Porken

I read through a couple pork games (viewtopic.php?f=84&t=79600 [town] and viewtopic.php?f=54&t=77441 [scum]). Seems like he always gives short, concise posts. Addtionally, he calls people scum confidently, a lot. It's possible that his posts this game that read off to me (like the "Scumslip?" and "You're in tune with scum mindset") are NAI for him.

I don't know if i'd vote votato/ceejay instead yet though Ill get back to u on that

Ug, those games happened during a dark time. It was hilarious and sad that my scum team won that second game despite my complete failure to help. Can’t believe I made it to endgame.

[Porkens]

good morning

working towncore is me/votato/conspire/MT

I agree in regards to conspire and MT

[Porkens]

Conspire,MT
Tux,pro hawk,quick
Check,contato,chem

[Porkens]

That’s right contato (yay phone)

[Porkens]

VOTE: tux oh god please stop I’m not scum

[Porkens]

VOTE: unvote this was a terrible vote. Tux has given town responses 80-90% on reread.

I still believe chemists opening gambit is more likely scum. I keep coming back to that fundamental thought. I’m pretty sure we could find the partner examining the reactions, but since game ends with one scum why overthink it.

VOTE: chemist

[Porkens]

my play style changed a lot in that era. in the olden days Don’t kill me I’m town would get you summarily lynched, but when I came back in 2015ish the Meta had changed and I had to adjust. I guess in general subtlety is gone? Dunno maybe that’s not a fair judgment but on the surface level it’s true at least (I know that sounds circular)

[Porkens]

Why didn't you do your naked early reads thing this game, Porkens? I happened to see you exercise those in a game long ago, and I was looking forward to seeing it again when I saw you sign up for this game.

~Cosmic

I’m trying to be a bit more deliberate in this game considering there’s an opportunity to win day 1. I’d like to do so for ego.

[Porkens]

I kinda feel cj is a bit lynchbaity but since I’m the alternative yeah I’m fine with that :p

[Porkens]

VOTE: tux oh god please stop I’m not scum

What did you mean here? Were you talking about yourself or Tux?

~Cosmic

Mind answering this, Mr Porkens?

~Cosmic

Sorry, meant to. I was talking about myself

[Porkens]

Brotato keeps confusing me with his posts.

[Porkens]

Cute

[Porkens]

Personal attack

[Porkens]

I think they mean I’m too scummy to be scum. A solid argument! Smart!

[Porkens]

It was pure self-preservation, his wagon was competing, but it was stupid.

[Porkens]

It was pure self-preservation, his wagon was competing, but it was stupid.

If you didn't feel like he was scum, why him over you?

If you actually read, you’d see that I hadn’t read him carefully at the time. When I reread I realized how town his posts were.

[Porkens]

I see mostly benefits, but I don’t think tux is a good lynch still. I’ll reread when I get home from shopping.

[Porkens]

Quick do you have anything to say aboutt to what tux just said?

[Porkens]

Votato/chem is very viable

[Porkens]

also

@NSG: even I will flip upon stumping?

What'd you mean by this, votato?

oh given the nature of my role i was wondering if i would flip

Oh the nature of your role? Do tell...

[Porkens]

Not sure I like the bromance here between votato and quick. In fact I think I dont

[Porkens]

VOTE: MT

I don’t like their progression on my slot

This is a scum post, totally self centered and self preserving. Only reason to pop in and y’all is when voted. This is pretty blatant

[Porkens]

Pork you LITERALLY did the same thing when we starting voting you

I didn’t say “I don’t like why they are voting me” at all.

[Porkens]

Also I give MT points for calling me out for defending her regardless of her inaccuracy.

[Porkens]

*townpoints

[Porkens]

God damn it prohawk why am I here.

[Porkens]

I’m supposed to keep tunneling chem right?

[Porkens]

Top of my head ceejay otherwise why am I here?

Assuming misty is chem?

[Porkens]

Porkens, don't you think you 3 should be voting in accordance to what the conftown treestumps think? And don't you think scum would've assumed that while bringing you here? Why does your scumread on Misty then matter so much?

~Cosmic

Buhhh I dunno I’m just here man that’s what I thought off the top of my head.
Yeah I think I’m totally fine working with the flipped town but I’m not going to roll over if I think your wrong.

[Porkens]

[Porkens]

I cannot see cj saying to themselves as Scum, "You know what would be really good? If we left me in at LyLo and have Pro Hawk be tree stumped." I cannot see that world so cj is probably clear.

This all is to an extent, but that line of thinking is pure wifom.

[Porkens]

Well of course you don’t like it.

My gut says I’m for the sole purpose to keep tunneling chem.

[Porkens]

I believe in chems ability to wifom though, so I’m in no rush. Talk more is good.

Expectations of ceejay were set low as well, which is easy to skate by on depending on the town. I’ve lurked my way to many a scum victory

[Porkens]

That’s a point for honesty

[Porkens]

I’m not lynchbait at all. My push on chem was widely supported by other town.

[Porkens]

Not my problem? Y’all want to blame me for our collective mistake I put a gun to no ones head.

[Porkens]

This is a hard. I’m pretty much convinced that cj/pro put me here to keep tunneling like a dummy. But that means my job is to somehow convince the speaking dead of this AND chemist obviously thinks it’s PRo/pork so I’m not sure what if anything I can do. Cj needs to post/be prodded or replaced because this game state is just gunna stay here otherwise

[Porkens]

I don’t think chem scum puts me in lylo with themself. I almost lynched them day 1.

[Porkens]

God it’s hard to wrap my brain around this setup

[Porkens]

Ok so, immediate questions for Porken and Chemist.

Who did you plan on voting upon day start without putting any extra thought into it?
If left alive with you who is the player you were most likely to vote? (that player is still allowed to be alive)

Cj
Dunno, depends on the combo

[Porkens]

Now to the people who are dead.

Would any of you have had a strong desire to vote any of the 3 living players without any additional day 2 information?
How does your death impact that read?

I don’t know if I should be relieved or terrified by this replacement

[Porkens]

Wifom
Wifoy
Wifom
Wifoy
Am i being played or double played or soup or secred double played I can’t tell

[Porkens]

Chem can you write some words about beeboy please

[Porkens]

VOTE: porkens

Lol shut up

[Porkens]

VOTE: porkens

Lol shut up

I want to snapvote this post

Me too but he’s dead already

[Porkens]

But your fine bringing outside game influences into your votes go away

[Porkens]

Even though you are dead you are still playing the game and thus still bound by the rules which include not bringing in your ogi baggage.

[Porkens]

What the fuck are you even talking abou votato

Cosmic: votato is embarrassing himself in the politics thread and taking his impotent rage out on this one.

[Porkens]

Ceejay was last seen during the night though (3rd June), so the point is completely moot.

Why does it even anger you if it has potential to clear someone, Porkens? Don't you want to lynch scum of the two?

~Cosmic

Either I'm not being clear or I'm missing something. My "lol shut up post" was in reaction to votato naked voting me after being humiliated in the politics thread. I wasn't commenting on CJ in any way whatsoever.

[Porkens]

Bullshit, explain your read progression (great I know you are but what am I defense have you considered running for president?)

[Porkens]

No. You called me lynchbait, talked about CJ, and then naked voted me. That's not an explanation for your read on ME vs CHEM.

YOU are bringing personal bias into the game. I'm warning you to stop.

[Porkens]

That's quite calming. Thank you. Guess I'll take a little break now. oink.

[Porkens]

How is that game relevant content RE: beeboy coming along chem?

[Porkens]

Chemist you need to talk bro

[Porkens]

what convinced you bee boy is town?

[Porkens]

@chem

[Porkens]

Well, I agree with you on the first part. I’m fine with 1v1

VOTE: chem

Oh hey full circle.

[Porkens]

Nice

[Porkens]

I appeal to the will of the council! Chems gambit day 1, and the reactions to it got us to where we are this morning. I was one of the first to challenge chemist, and tried as hard as I could to take it to its natural conclusion. Some of you may think I’m scum. This is natural - often I am misread as scum because of my posting style. I do most of my thinking in my head, rather than in the thread, and find it combersome to explain myself in words. I don’t consider how what I say makes me look. I suspect that contributes to me being misread, as well as my avatar, which, through experimentation and observation, I have learned is a significant factor.

This all comes back to that original gambit. It was scum driven then, its scum driven now.

Many of you have asked why I am here. Why would chem and pro put me here when I was pushing chem day 1? It’s called wifom my friends, and welcome to it. What fell apart for chem and pro is bee boy replacing in. Now rather than manipulating me into lynching cj, which was my knee jerk reaction, bee boy is clear and we are in 1v1. Full circle.

It stands out to me that chem reads the council as being on his side. Their minimal “who cares” posting style is skating through, and in fact compare the gambit ting chem with post gambit chem. That made chem meek. Skulking through the rest of the game. Essentially trying to cool his way to an undeserved victory.

I wish I were a stump. I wish I could relax, but I don’t want to be the reason you lose.

Oink

[Porkens]

I have the benefit Here of knowing I’m right but which is definitely influencing my logic but ...

Let’s take out the stump dynamic for a second:

Player A: blah blah blah (self vote)
Player B: blah blah ( vote player A)
Player A: BLAH BLAH BLAH (vote player B)
Porkens: (vote player A)

I’ll do that every time.

[Porkens]

I’m pretty sure I did let me find it...

[Porkens]

It was pure self-preservation, his wagon was competing, but it was stupid.

[Porkens]

It makes sense though, someone who volunteers to be lynched and is willing to go through with it is clear. Now someone
Volunteering to be lynched to look town and then backing off in terror when it looks like it might happen...

More likely a bluff than a joke.

I still get to talk when I’m dead right?
Ftr I still maintain chemitsry scum.

I see no reason why town would react with as much fear as she did.

The fear is the in self ore and the “hey lynch me to prove I’m town” to “woah wish woah don’t lynch me”

VOTE: unvote I’m not feeling it this morning. Coffe then more layerZ

Alright, why did you unvote here after being so sure of Misty scum before this?

~Cosmic

Like I said, wasn’t feeling it that morning. For better or worse I’m not a logic driven player 85% of the time and play by and with emotion and feeling, which can swing around

[Porkens]

nope, seems you are pretty in tune with the scum mindset.

wut?

For reals tho, what are your reads?

no u

This interaction... ProHawk is the only person Porkens outright just doesn't answer when they ask him for a read or general thoughts.

~Cosmic

In this he is punching up after I called him scummy, which makes me feel higher than him and under no pressure to answer his questions. Also I think I was -retty grumpy that afternoon

[Porkens]

Hello Esper!!!

I am going to do the real 5head play and meta prohawk and see what his inclination to bus is.

@Mod is prohawk allowed to post?

^ if he can he is a coward.

I take offense.

Am I hear to hammer CJ yes or no?

[Porkens]

[Porkens]

I think people think I’m dumb and bad and they have some reason to think so. I lost a game this week hammering hastily and wrong stuff n lylo. To be fair there was a good chance I vote immediately if they looked at my meta. There’s just no other reason for me to be here than to hammer chem and I didn’t wanna be played that way-sure it was cj from day daystart therefore. But beeboy obvtowned and chem refuses to do anything more than fos me so here we are. Any play in this setup is wifom and this is a very good wifom play by pro/chem.

[Porkens]

im working for you, as throughout the game I have been.

[Porkens]

It wasn’t an excuse, I was asked in this game why I’m not doing it so I answered. I don’t know what you mean about not having done those reads in my other games, what are you comparing this to? I was never fine with being lynched because I wanted to win day 1.

[Porkens]

cutepigsleeping.gif

[Porkens]

Don’t minimize racism

[Porkens]

I’m sad but not about this game.

[Porkens]

[Porkens]

I would definitely like to play this setup again

[Porkens]

Oh lol took a second

[Porkens]

What if it is beeboy and he’s the biggest troll in the universe?

[Porkens]

Ahhhh I am so relieved this was stressfuuuullll! Thank you VERY much for the comments on my play. I thought you were all going to see right through me. Felt like almost everyone knew in their hearts I was scum and was just hoping the second guessing would be to my favor. I even hardslipped once. I really thought we were doomed when beeboy replaces in and I couldn’t even pretend to suspect him. I think you’ll all enjoy the scum pt. Very enjoyable game. I thought flipped prohawk did a great job in thread too, don’t think I could have pulled that off. I also really liked the flavor although how are trees on a train?

[Porkens]

Not my problem? Y’all want to blame me for our collective mistake I put a gun to no ones head.

[Porkens]

I was talking about the wagon On chem here and called it a mistake (because chem was town) totally screwing up pov

[Porkens]

I’m not lynchbait at all. My push on chem was widely supported by other town.

and what happened to that today?

Not my problem? Y’all want to blame me for our collective mistake I put a gun to no ones head.

Context

[Porkens]

gg

did not enjoy f3 but d1 was fun

because of the ending?

between the ending and everyone consistently talking about how useless I was in f3

I was constantly afraid you were just going to post a two or three paragraph stream of consciousness that would show your thought and feeling process. I think it was really close and a little nudge would have done it. Just my opinion

[Porkens]

On that...

I'm willing to crossvote Porkens at this point

I was glad for this post because it gave me an “in” to putting the vote down in a natural feeling way and beeboy was bleeding town but I didn’t want to be the first today it because I had to keep up my dos of cjs slot. This post gave me a good excuse. I just asked chem why HE thought beeboy was town and agree.

[Porkens]

Sorry, they. Don’t know chem’s pronouns

[Porkens]

God what terrible typos...