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Post #32 (isolation #5) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 2:45 pm
Postby SleeperSoul »
@HoldenGolden Whatever we do, we should only claim if everyone claims. Your theorycrafting is already giving me headaches. I think massclaim right away will make everything simpler for everyone, giving a net benefit to town since we outnumber mafia.
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Post #66 (isolation #10) » Thu Jun 18, 2020 4:24 pm
Postby SleeperSoul »
Yeah well since it's not that big of a deal, I'm just going to claim.
votato is my lover. Which is good because in bed I'm definitely a giver not a taker.
In post 109, votato wrote:unrelated to the game, tuxedo and i are lovers
In post 117, votato wrote:ok my early solve is {genghis, drew}. sleeper is 100% town, and so far both tux and holden are weak townreads.
Agreed to both. That's why I wanted to know if Kahn and Drew were lovers. Now know they aren't their coordination on you seems scummy. The push is weak, and they both made the same weird mistake about Holden. Not sure about Sleeper being so towny though. I like Ray.
This also makes sense, except I slightly scum lean Ray. continuing catch-up
In post 120, SleeperSoul wrote:I do buy that votato could read me like this. But I'm scratching my head at the solve.
I should probably get some rest though, I've been up all night and it's almost noon.
see? up all night together. the solve comes from genghis making the weird misquote thing and coordinating with drew. im pretty sure my iso lays that out already. it certainly lays out all my thoughts on drew.
uhuh uhuh... i like it!
In post 128, Raya36 wrote:I've never played this setup before but I intend to use my PT to sort Drew and I think that's in the best interest of all town
I don't like Khan's 50 (if I mislink, it's the one with the messed up quote) due to not understanding how the hell the quote was messed up that badly. However, I confess that isnt AI on it's own. What I think is scummy is that Khan prioritized pushing the slip without addressing the mess up quote at the same time drew begun to push.
This makes sense.
In post 137, HoldenGolden wrote:Votato, picture me and you as scum for a moment. You indicate to me that you want to coordinate a push onto a townie named KASLAM based off a frabicated scum slip. I say sure but then in the thread you post the slip on KASLAM yet its quoted by another player (or vice versa. KASLAM is quoted saying something he didnt).
Would you expect me to go through with it?
The whole execution of the slip logic is so sloppily done that I dont buy it was premeditated between them. Theres not enough there to support that narrative over others like scum!khan fueling town!drew for example.
This is very townie.
In post 147, Genghis Khan wrote:An action comitted in anger is an action doomed to failure, people.
Anyway, I am heavily overgamed. Calling in Alexander the Great.
In post 139, SleeperSoul wrote:Guys I've been busy in another game..... based on that game and the PT my town read on votato is pretty strong. I'll try to catch up later.
Can you give some details for why he's such strong town to you?
Because of the other game, I think we can read each other pretty well through live interaction.
Not sure what more I can say without breaking the rules on ongoing games.
In post 159, Raya36 wrote:Can we maybe not L-1 someone getting replaced Sleeper? L-2 is ok but give the replacement time to catch up first maybe
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Post #165 (isolation #24) » Fri Jun 19, 2020 1:56 pm
Postby SleeperSoul »
Yeah, it is reading based on information from the other game. And if I understand correctly meta can also come from just knowing someone outside of mafia.
In post 46, votato wrote:hmm in general im not a fan of it. at least not on day 1. the only thing we gain from claiming is associations, and we dont want to be speculating based on associations pre-flip. so day 2 we can do it if we want, but today nono. day 1 scum are somewhat in the dark, but day 2 scum know who all the pairs are so at that point you lose nothing by claiming.
i feel like people always put too much effort into gimmicking a given setup and too little time scumhunting.
Am I missing something? How does scum know all the pairs D2 without us claiming?
Asking this again since I'm still confused
Raya your concern seems very genuine and townie to me.
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Post #182 (isolation #29) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 6:06 am
Postby SleeperSoul »
In post 181, Raya36 wrote:I'm honestly a little confused at how strong votato and sleeper are trusting each other. I'm a little worried that votato is manipulating sleeper. (I don't see sleeper being scum so if there is manipulation it's from votato.)
I really wish I could link you the exact post from the other game where I became confident in votato's read on me.
I do have a slight wariness towards votato because he initiated this plan that I don't fully understand..... but the trust I feel is strong. It just gets challenged every now and then by logic. I feel that khan and drew are mafia. Logic comes in and causes doubt every now and then but overall I trust the direction this game is going in.
After sleeping, when catching up, I didn't reread the whole game, I just started catching up up from votato's post. So that's why I didn't mention drew.
Now that I reread everything without a lack of sleep, I see how scummy drew's aggression was.
Let's play devil's advocate and say Pooky(Genghis) and I are scum buddies, why would I be obviously against his lynch? That would be a bonkers play, and borderline suicidal.
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Post #234 (isolation #41) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 9:49 am
Postby SleeperSoul »
In post 232, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Sorry Votato but I didn't make you fall in love with a mafia - that shit's on beeboy - but it's in the town's best interests to lynch your badboy love so
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Post #249 (isolation #45) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 10:06 am
Postby SleeperSoul »
In post 245, Tuxedo Mask wrote:I think scum hammering themselves is much less likely than town. Also if that did happen I think it would make Bear look really weird.
Plus I agree with Bear if you were a lover to their partner it would be more beneficial to keep you on the same course. Not go after you so hard
Okay, this makes sense, I wasn't thinking about the setup properly. Pooky seems a lot less scummy to me now.
Let's play devil's advocate and say Pooky(Genghis) and I are scum buddies, why would I be obviously against his lynch? That would be a bonkers play, and borderline suicidal.
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Post #286 (isolation #58) » Sat Jun 20, 2020 11:13 am
Postby SleeperSoul »
In post 282, Raya36 wrote:I'm not convinced drew is town at all. I hope its not my paranoia getting the best of me but the push on votato/sleeper just doesnt seem natural
Drew, even your lover thinks you're mafia.
I don't negotiate with terrorists. I just present my case. If you think it's weak, ignore it.