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I've played with him a few times/watched him in Team Mafia and feel like I can probably get a good read on him
The only person who I've played with nearly as much is Datisi, and I consistently read her wrong lol
In post 171, Morning Tweet wrote:ok im gonna reread later but im going to predict my townreads are maybe votato + Tuxedo, and the townleans are up in the air
How convenient
In post 176, votato wrote:my scumpool is {ico, kanna, beeboy, datisi, klick}
do other people have similar lists? we can flip those switches and then still lynch. that takes all night killing power away from scum and gives us total control over who dies. if that doesnt solve the game we are in a lylo that we control. it requires a lot of cooperation though since we have to flip switches in the right order
hmmmmmm
Tinfoil = Tweet+votato coming in with a plan from the start.
In post 180, Tuxedo Mask wrote:Votato how will you convince everyone else to kill themse for this plan?
Also what happened to your scum read of my self vote.
it wasnt so much a scum read as it was a "i dont feel comfortable voting for you"
I'm missing the genesis on votato's Tuxedo townread to the point where he wants to take the game straight to LyLo on it
Tweet's 183 sure is a lot of words
In post 185, Tuxedo Mask wrote:Not going to lie that visual made me super nervous. Unless scum really misread how the three of us felt about each other.
I don't know. I got big town vibes from Morning, but this circle of friends where I'm the pocket seems way more likely to be scum crafted. Like both scum put themselves in the conga line of death, really?
Vibing with this
In general Tuxedo's posts on page 8 feel genuine. The Tux/beeboy interaction is nice for both of them
there's certainly a bit of wifom going on cause morning/tuxedo/votato are also my townreads. it seems convenient to be able to push them to the side, although atm that's still what i'm leaning towards.
lolwut
So at this point at least one town has to legitimately have MT/votato/Tux as their townreads.
In post 202, beeboy wrote:Highly likely scum has the switch of another scum.
So I am kind of looking for people who are back to back as scum.
That's why I'm sus of the circle im in. It's weird.
It could be morning tweet and votato as scum I guess?
Wouldn't be impossible, I'd have to read up on how both like to play as scum.
Really liking beeboy. His progression on what's optimal play feels legit as well.
Tweet's play feels compartmentalised between scumhunting and theory discussion - there was some early scumhunting but she now seems particularly invested in finding the optimal plan and her reads don't seem to be on her mind much.
In post 219, Kanna wrote:actually, the big brain strategy (remember partition, Morning?) should be one in the big group and one in the small group. it seems we're led to want to kill in the big group (ame and ico were semi-suspicious yesterday), and scum want us to choose the wrong order. scum can then have the best of both worlds because they will both be holding town switches.
I can see this. At least the bit where we're encouraged to kill in the big group. I can see scum aiming for a win condition of getting enough of the big group killed while protecting the small group. That works with 1-2 scum in the small group and 0-1 in the big group.
In post 221, Tuxedo Mask wrote:We should also be aware that if scum have reason to think they will be blown up by our discussion they're very likely to quick activate their switch. So we're basically losing one town guaranteed when we find our first scum.
I'm
really
bothered by the fact that this post assumes scum are both holding town's switches.
In post 226, Kanna wrote:These are all good points and i agree so i'm back to wanting to kill my loop. +1 to Morning's question because I'm also not sure why Klick is townie. if i had to pick someone in the big loop to save apart from me, it'd be Datisi(?) but ideally, i'd like to see more from Datisi/Ico.
i don't really want beeboy/Klick to live. beeboy has a few posts promoting wifom which kinda rub me the wrong way + i recently played a terrible game of noughts and crosses and if he used that game as meta for me, i think he'd think i am an easy kill which would make me good to put next to his theoretical partner, Klick. this would also make his Ico push just now make sense. this is slightly tinfoil though.
I was going to say I really don't like this post but then you posted exactly why I don't like it at the very end lol. I've gotten the opposite impression from beeboy
Kanna feels like he doesn't care that much about what happens at the end of the day? Like he's jumped to being both fine with the small-circle plan and against it. Guess it implies that if Kanna is scum, he's scum with someone in the small circle?
In post 249, Tuxedo Mask wrote:Sorry, I really don't feel good betting the whole game that for some reason scum put themselves outside of the small group. I think I'd actually like Morning to blow up Votato. That's where I'm at. I feel we should just do scum hunting for the big group. Not try to game it, especially when the game was designed by our adversaries.
The things Tux says consistently make me happy at least. With a 5-3 split like this scum definitely went into this with a plan/intended way of town approaching this.
@votato:
Why do you actually townread Tweet?
tl;dr: beeboy is my only particularly confident townread. Tux reads town tonally but I'm super thrown by his 221 assuming both scum are holding onto town switches (considering that's not something that the town had discussed up to this point). I'd like other opinions on that. I'm skeptical of both Tweet and votato as of right now. Kanna sure exists. Ico and Datisi don't exist.
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Theory talk: I don't think the small-group LyLo plan works for us, unless there is specifically 1 scum in each group. This is because any game-wide plan is going to require scum cooperation. If there are 0 scum in the small group, the large group will have 2 scum and won't be agreeing to let themselves be eliminated. If there are 2 scum in the small group, it obviously doesn't work because a bunch of town die. So it only works out if it's 1-1, and even then we're not accomplishing much by going through with it.
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Post #305 (isolation #8) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 1:20 pm
Postby Klick »
Would you say you have a particularly good scum game?
My first impulse reading that post was 'why are you so flippant about whether or not we go with the small-group plan?'
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Post #372 (isolation #11) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 5:30 pm
Postby Klick »
>be me
>go to sleep at quarter to 2
>toddler wakes you up at quarter to 5, hasn't slept all night
>looks like we're going on a walk
>'oh well, at least I can log on to forum dot mafiascum dot net and lynch some town'
>go check on your buddy Hectic's game
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Post #434 (isolation #23) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:52 pm
Postby Klick »
Tbf Datisi and I should have gone with our original plan of putting everyone in pairs, with us both holding town switches
PEdit yeah. We decided it wouldn't be fun enough though.
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Post #443 (isolation #24) » Tue Jun 23, 2020 6:57 pm
Postby Klick »
We wanted one of us to be the townies in the large group. Even though the small group was towny we figured you wouldn't think we'd put 2 scum in the large group
