Micro 974: The Last of the Red-Horned Dung Beetles (Borked)

[JohnnyFarrar]

First!

[JohnnyFarrar]

Another pooky game? Waow

[JohnnyFarrar]

@mod the setup says all town have equal chance to be one of the three things, does that mean there's 2 of 2 and 3 of 1, or is there another town role?

Forgive me I'm just trying to break the setup if I can

[JohnnyFarrar]

The pros outweigh the cons pretty heavily here. We need to heal today.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Why would i tell you that?

Is this real? I genuinely can't tell

[JohnnyFarrar]

So like, these roles are all pretty unique and without significant precedent for me. When I saw my PM I came to the thread and read up on the setup. I think scum have it easier setup wise, and are thereby less likely to have read the setup.

P:edit i man did you also skin your pm? Because I borderline didn't understand mine

[JohnnyFarrar]

P:edit i man did you also skin your pm? Because I borderline didn't understand mine

I mean**

[JohnnyFarrar]

P:edit i man did you also skin your pm? Because I borderline didn't understand mine

Also skim***

[JohnnyFarrar]

Woop this went fast. I skimmed but I'll catch up when I get home. I'm not a gardener?

Pedit: @M I think it's fun and they're clearly up to something so if like to see where it goes

[JohnnyFarrar]

So re-reading the setup, we have a few things it would be good to accomplish.

1. Gardeners targeting scum would be good.

2. Sentries not blowing all their one shots night 1.

3. Only one surgeon operating each night.

If anyone has solutions for how to make any of these things happen I'll be all ears.

P- edit: I disagree with the spray about the bun

[JohnnyFarrar]

"if they are voted to receive it" implies that they can be voted to receive it, the result however would be nothing.

if our goal was to make all people unable to receive the bug we would not really need gardeners to claim, they could just go around clearing in a circular pattern or something like that - for example on N1 we could just ask all gardeners to disable the name below them on the playerlist to gurantee no target repeats.

imo the most important use of a gardener is to eat a bullet for one of the 2 more powerful PRs as doctors can actually generate positive gain and sentries can prevent the mafia from taking the bug.

It's very enlightining that you're still talking to me when the mod is here

You seen to want to deny it before there's any proof, which indicates you either already contacted the mod in private or you don't want this method to be true.

Very enlightning.

This is a reach

[JohnnyFarrar]

I mean we're all prs i just think bun is actively trying to solve this game no matter which way you look at it and it's silly to think they're scum right now

[JohnnyFarrar]

Also are we just not talking about how Taly seems to be having the world's longest stroke?

[JohnnyFarrar]

S&M is kinda scummy but not to a degree I feel confident on voting or putting as a read

I feel they've been trying to look like the "goody-two-shoes" in thread in a way I often expect mafia to do

Eh, pooky's just cute ime

[JohnnyFarrar]

OK, I feel better about your slot now.

I'll return later.

You know Bunno and are willing to vouch for their towniness? Do you understand Bugsprays negative feelings? Are they similar to what yours were before learning buns identity

[JohnnyFarrar]

If we successfully get a townie the bug this day this becomes decently easy.

I think everyone should claim gardener / no gardener

[JohnnyFarrar]

This is a read early morning. Are we also getting blocked by gardeners?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Nah I'm cool with it

[JohnnyFarrar]

Taly is gonna be hard to sort here.

[JohnnyFarrar]

The plan is me not getting the bug

[JohnnyFarrar]

I suppose I could just wait and see on Taly too for the same reasons.

My two biggest question marks here are Herta and T Swift

[JohnnyFarrar]

I'm feeling a little hesitant about spooks and smoke, but I can't put my finger on why. Maybe I'm scared of a pocket? Since they called me town so early?

Literally forgot about simple plan

[JohnnyFarrar]

You're spooks, pooks.

[JohnnyFarrar]

Mirrors isn't pooky? Fuck that explains a lot

[JohnnyFarrar]

Yeah help us spot the shit. Point our eyes in the right direction

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hey Tay. What reads from those pages?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh. Well. Bugspray was mad weird and I'm interested to see how our boy/girl smoke and mirrors reacts to someone less weird in the slot.

Do you have a problem with the gambit/ do you know the situation Taly and I are in?

Welcome viz!

[JohnnyFarrar]

Taly and I both claimed non-gardener (we're the only ones who bit on Bunnos massclaim thing) so now we're having our night actions vaguely directed while the rest of the town does something else. Also Bunno claimed gardener.

It provides us with a lot of info about the two of us tonight and potentially helps the sentry/doc powers get used effectively tonight and in future nights

P: nah bud you'll see. There's a reason you're lead wagon rn

[JohnnyFarrar]

Oh nvm. But you had the most momentum!

[JohnnyFarrar]

This outted pairing which we'll call "the lovers", will have any doctors on it perform the operation during the night. Sentries on that pairing won't do anything to save their abilities.

So, out of

Johnny/I

, neither of us should be votes to be healed as Mafia can ALSO claim no gardener and be "functionally truthful" in that claim.

And any doctors within

Johnny/I

will be used to operating Dr. Zenkava or another player?

And any sentries within

Johnny/I

will be loose with abilities; stealing, defending, or guarding per the player's discretion?

Is this an accurate summary of your plan?

Yes, except any sentries within you should save up abiltites, in other words do nothing today. It can become handy in N3 and even confirm one of you as town later.

This is the current plan vis a vis me and Taly, meaning, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the rest of town should do the opposite. Other town sentries steal, other town doctors save?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Ay Nor gimme thoughts on bugspray

[JohnnyFarrar]

They outed of all their games

[JohnnyFarrar]

Yeah naw. Thoughts beyond that?

Also thoughts/ prayers/ hope everything's ok bugspray

[JohnnyFarrar]

I was under the impression that sentry steals were one shot

[JohnnyFarrar]

There's no guarantee there are any sentries. Also docs lots their ability to heal after successfully operating on zen

[JohnnyFarrar]

There's no guarantee there are any sentries. Also docs lose* their ability to heal after successfully operating on zen

[JohnnyFarrar]

So this plan -
D1 No day eliminations

N1 all sentries steal
All doctors do nothing
All gardeners block? (There'd be a bunch of false positives on investigate Because of the sentries)
Townie dies likely

D2 one confirmed sentry
Still no eliminations?

N2 doctors heal caretaker
Sentries do nothing
All gardeners investigate
Another townie likely dies

D3 still one confirmed sentry
Gardeners claim if they have a result
Still no eliminations if not?

N3 sentries protect
doctors nothing
Gardeners continue to investigate

D4 one confirm sentry
Gardeners claim some more
Still no Elim if not? -

This is broken quickly by fake claims and dead sentries

[JohnnyFarrar]

We also have a less intensive plan in effect currently based around our claimed gardener

[JohnnyFarrar]

Nah but at this stage with the discussion that's happened I trust and believe that the Gardener claim is legit

[JohnnyFarrar]

Um?

[JohnnyFarrar]

haha lord, this micro feels like a large.

Seconded. And simple plan still hasn't even shown up

[JohnnyFarrar]

Mixed tells from Nor. Would you describe them as spontaneous?

[JohnnyFarrar]

Hearts. I'm gonna push some people as I've got the next two days off. After dinner tho.