Micro 980: EMITGBSMoD [game over!]

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VOTE: inutile

Last confirm in.

Myself, Ico, shell, and bugspray conf!town for being first four to confirm.

Prove me wrong.

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Ico, Chem, and Bingle: ya miss me? I missed you lot something fierce.

Everyone else: welcome to the Thunderdome, bitch.

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VOTE: shellyc

Seems I was wrong about conf times.

Also I've probably misgendered Chem like 473 times in the past so my humblest apologies to ya C-money.

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i'm pretty sure this is the first time i've interacted with you since coming out so you're good

Ah, wasn't aware this was a new thing.

That only makes me feel slightly better tbh.

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I was unaware intentionality was a word.

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chkflip's vote on me seems opportunistic without much explanation, would like to hear why you think your conftime theory is incorrect

you are on one strike on my dodging question radar chkflip

And that's two strikes on my buzzword-o-meter.

Cold take: time of confirmation doesn't actually mean anything. Ooooh.

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You also spoke about me.

Try talking directly to me next time.

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I already fucking answered the first part, do keep up.

My vote's a sheep. That's pretty clear, is it not?

Now, is this opportunism scum-motivated or town-motivated? Why?

Why are you, on page 5, focusing on your own train when there are other things happening around you?

In final, you don't have to @ me if you're literally quoting me and asking a question. It's redundant.

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Now, is this opportunism scum-motivated or town-motivated? Why?

this feels like a weird question to ask

Why?

They called my vote opportunistic.

I'm basically calling on them to elaborate on my vote.

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What is the self awareness tell?

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...

what?

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You're saying you think they faked posting in the wrong thread?

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"I, after backlash, no longer think it's scummy... so it's antitown! Policy!"

I had such high hopes for you, Paradox. Stop doing that.

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that being said, for 133, considering that it is probably true (why would town lie about that?), they should be policy eliminated into oblivion

Pray tell, good sir, how am I

supposed

to interpret you literally calling bugspray town?

Go on.

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So you're basically pre-washing your hands in the event they flip town?

Yeah that's a hard no from me, bud.

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It's page 8 and someone could lolhammer.

Un. Fucking. Vote.

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I dislike that all of inu/chk/Chem are lending passive support to the TGP push without actively supporting the wagon.

"I disagree with your opinion." =/= "I think you are scum."

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^That looks to me like "I want to be able to claim I pushed TGP when they flip scum, but I'm not sure they can't talk their way out of the elim yet."

What would look like "I didn't know the motivations or alignment of said player so I was sussing them out" to you, exactly?

This is fucking goofy, btw.

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Oh fun e-1 again.

I get it. It's a dumb thing to say.

It's page 8. Unvote.

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VOTE: Tayl0r Swift

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Who in this list are you worried about a lolhammer from?

@chk

It's not really a "who" in particular, it's the act in general.

I've seen it happen more in much larger games, obviously, but something this small has little room for error. This isn't to say that I don't think we'll miselim or anything -- far from it -- it's just that we're in too early for a hammer at all for the base to have a consensus of good reads.

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you think TGP is going to flip scum

This is the second time you've imposed your read as my read. Please stop doing that.

Who are you trying to develop further reads on?

Fucking everyone? What do you mean??

You're telling me you're fine with the reads you have right now to end the day?

Cool. Show me that list.

Otherwise, stop big-dicking the situation. It's irresponsible to leave people at e-1 when we're like, what, a week from EoD?

Ico

just joined us

as a point of reference.

Like

I don't understand how this is remotely difficult to comprehend.

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someone hammering out of the blue when there's been so much noise about it is laughable.

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but uhhhhh

Who made the fucking noise?

Ah, yeah, cool. Got it.

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Oh, we're

fighting

. Now that's fucking laughable.

This is the second time you've imposed your read as my read. Please stop doing that.

If I parsed your sentence improperly (as I acknowledged might be the case), maybe correct that parsing instead of complaining about how I can't read the shit you say:

This isn't to say that I don't think we'll miselim or anything -- far from it

-- it's just that we're in too early for a hammer at all for the base to have a consensus of good reads.

Literally requested you stop superimposing your shit on me. You want complaints?

bugspray
shellyc
Tayl0r Swift
Iconeum
Chemist1422
chkflip
inutile
TheGoldenParadox

Holy steaming pile of dogshit, Batman!
It's a steaming pile of dogshit!
Good thing I have my anti-steaming pile of dogshit spray!

There's 4 days and change left on the clock. The only slot that hasn't really done *anything* is Chem, who isn't being prodded by anybody.

Flipping TGP gives me information about most of the players on the list

, and someone hammering out of the blue when there's been so much noise about it is laughable.

Elaborate.

More to the point though, I asked who

you

were trying to read, because as I see it you've done nothing but complain about there being an E-1 wagon since post 178. Oh. And a naked vote.

There is more to this game than whatever the fuck you think you're doing, son.

Already answered that question.

My vote has more purpose than yours does.

We're done here.

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Iconeum is town.

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Give a third name.

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Drama.

Is it common to have three scum in a micro? That seems... odd.

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That would make e-lo TOMORROW with only one possible mislim before requiring we get every wagon proper.



Fake townslip is fake.

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What the fuck?

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I'm a power role. I targeted Galron. Nothing to report.

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Oops. Bingle. Idk how I fucked that up, my bad.

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I'm a power role. I targeted Galron. Nothing to report.

What the fuck?

Three investigators claimed, fuck it eh.

One of them is scum.

See also: I don't agree with mass claim, but they're doing it, and they'll get super fucking pissy with me if I don't. So meh.

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Yes.

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And it's worthless now that people are claiming.

On D2.

Like

This is incredibly fucking dumb but whatever.

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Mech play is "outguessing the mod" with extra steps.

And why an INVESTIGATIVE ROLE started it is beyond me.

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I've given more than I should've.

Go play lazy mafia with someone else kthx

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YoUrE nOt PlAyInG mY wAy *VoTe*

Get the fuck outta here with that dogshit.

I continuously asked people to stop E-1'ing motherfuckers and y'all just did NOT want to listen. What's the point in dragging that into today? Oh to shade, coolcoolcoolcoolcool.

My. Role. Doesn't. Help. You.

I. Do. Not. Have. Anything. To. Share.

You. Pushing. That. Is. Fucking. Stupid.

Move along.

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simple

Can only target vanilla

Loyal

Can only target town

Rolestopper

Can doc kills

You're a fucking idiot.

I die if I claim.

I die if I don't.

Way to go, winner, "outguess the mod" is helping town so much right now.

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Like

You couldn't be playing worse right now.

Fucking joke, dude.

[chkflip]

Bit far, yeah. I'm probably stacking aggro from out of game things here. Apologies Bing.

Loyal

are you claiming this and that you know that bingle is town due to targeting them?

Simple means it only works on vanilla.

Y'know, the people that aren't gonna die because a doc, vig, and tracker claimed.

I'm also not given success/failure reports, so.

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I honestly don't remember seeing a soft, and if I did I clearly didn't take it seriously. You seemed by thread presence to be the most likely kill to me. My irritation quite honestly is with claiming at all at this juncture. My role is 100% worthless. If there's some way to try to game it, sure, but there's no purpose to even attempt rolestops imo because you, me, and the tracker are going to die. Point blank. I don't get a PM for anything so I'm not sure how this works (I'm half paying attention, on a DM'ing break rn.) but I'll follow along at a closer eye later.

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So my role doesn't confirm VTs. Paradox would confirm I targeted who I'll say I targeted tomorrow, confirming I do in fact have a role.

Ooooooh. Zero net gain.

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You're a fucking idiot.

also i know that your tone is like a playstyle thing from looking at other games but this sort of thing makes me not want to engage you because i really do not want to be yelled at

I won't yell at you, I'll just... speak emphatically.

Fewer f bombs? Idk.

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Wait, no. Not even that lmao. He'll confirm I have a role.

That's... even worse. L M A FUCKING O.

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sorry, i just, hm. even when i know it's a playstyle thing and part of the game to you, it is hard for me to not be separated from the game by that sort of thing, and i said something about it in that situation because i had just asked you a question and i know that had you made the same statement you had just made towards bingle towards me i would probably shutdown; like i can feel it at the edges and i don't know what to do other than to say i really do not want to be yelled at. sorry again.

Don't apologize, you're good. If I'm made aware that it is an out of game issue with someone I can and will make sure I don't go full tilt on them. I'm a huge fucking asshole, undountedly, but I'm not such an asshole that I would purposefully bring out of game anxiety onto any player on purpose.

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Idk if you know Titus or davesaz, but they're the same way and there's literally nothing wrong with that.

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If you do the thing I can bazinga you.

Who are we eliminating?

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no u

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

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God damnit.

I can't get rid of you, now, can I Pooky?

*weeps bitterly in the corner*

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chemist probly killed bugspray

whattup with the shade

anything substantial backing this?

Holy role fishing, Batman!

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Sometimes I can't be too sure with you. <.<

[chkflip]

Sometimes I can't be too sure with you. <.<

it's post-mass claim?
why are you accusing me of role fishing?

I was fucking around around. Relax.

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I'm subdued because I've been demonetized to my least favorite role.

Vanilla town.

Like

I'm not alive long enough to make a difference now and the one night I got an action worth a shit it was wasted on a power role who called, and everyone fucking listened, to a mass claim. On Day 2. That's been pretty unhelpful as far as solves go btw.

I'm beyond anger. I'm at acceptance.

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I don't care at all.

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Holy shit, it's still the same year as those games? I thought those were last year. WTF even is time.

Mainstream ended at the top of the year.

What even is, man.

[chkflip]

What exactly has mass claiming done to further this phase?

We aren't even seriously wagoning anyone. We're all jawing about this fucking

distraction at best

and still landed on thinking the same people should be elimiminated... but now on PowerPoint following our daily planner.

Dumb.

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Iconeum is still town.

Hmm

VOTE: Pooky

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its probly flippy/ico

after i flip town get them

Cute AtE. Wonder why I've never seen this before.

[chkflip]

A passionate townread.

Super not weird that you're immediately scum reading your entire wagon.

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The burden of replacement.

lolok

lol that's not even ate

Why are you so defensive? It's not the biggest, gushiest bullshit I've ever seen -- of course not -- but defeatism isn't exactly an appeal to anything else, hm?

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I can't get over "hoes mad"

Cheers mod.

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At what now?

you 2 clowns are laugh out loud funny

if either of you are actually town here this town deserves to lose no joke

Call me a fucking clown again.

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Pook -- he didn't ask you to do whatever you're saying. This is a case on shell who, unfortunately, replaced out. He didn't say talk to her, or login to her profile, or heckle her in PM our site chat or by letter. He. Didn't. Say. Answer for shelly. Not a single fucking time did he say that. I can't stress it enough because you keep record skipping and repeating yourself that he did. He didn't.

Burden of Replacement.

Sometimes you walk into a town-read slot as town and, or scum, or 3p, or the gingerbread man but the inverse is also true. It's not up to you to interpret the scribe of your predecessor. It's up to you to shift the doubt and play the game signed up to replace into.

You're not being townread by two people.

How very unfortunate.

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I'm going to end up being meaner than chk if I continue engaging you.

pressXtodoubt.jpg

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aw man. solid.

Ico I agree abt Paradox. Stop saying shit before I can say shit it's making me look bad.

[chkflip]

He pinged somebody as having used an action or whatever.

How am I reading/remembering more than you?

[chkflip]

How does this mf go from voting me to voting with me?

Lining up elims?

VOTE: TheGoldenParadox

Nah fam.

this... isn't true?

I was half right.

[chkflip]

So my claims possible but I'm still tomorrow.

lmaooooooo okay bud

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Oh I read that as tomorrow, not town.

I haven't slept.

Still not comfortable.

[chkflip]

Tracker or Checker both seem like solid fake claims tbh.

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Teamwork makes the dream work, but mm.

I'll drop for now.

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Heh kiddy gloves. There's a term I haven't seen in a while.

[chkflip]

I don't trust any of these hoes.

[chkflip]

I don't outguess the mod, I play mafia.

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VOTE: Pooky

I don't have time to tell you why that's wrong.

[chkflip]

Heyyy I protected Ico.

What would that be a scum claim for?

[chkflip]

Well according to Paradox I did, so.

[chkflip]

Fascinating.

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Ohhh shit hey.

VOTE: Iconeum

You slimy bitch. :angry emoji:

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UNVOTE: Iconeum

You still slimy. :slightly less angry emoji:

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That's a 0 gain action.

I just wanna point out this is a 0 gain role by itself.

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Oh fuck we're in limlo why am I alive fuck

[chkflip]

I'm good with that.

[chkflip]

dude wtf

wtf is right bro
u pocketing me bro

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well no

turns out you were pocketing me??

Nah you hella sus rn bro

[chkflip]

i'm not scum and you know it

How else do I not hit u

[chkflip]

Not as far as I've been told. Asked if I get confirm PMs, mod said no as far as "you successfully blah blah target" goes. So I assume I wouldn't get a roleblocked message. Did not rec one.

[chkflip]

maybe you got blocked

u actin kinda sus

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VOTE: chemist

coming out with a 'guilty' in lylo that would win the game for scum!him

yeah

hmm

The audacity.

[chkflip]

there is shit in my pants

Trivago hotel

[chkflip]

chem/ico or paradox/bingle today?

I'd rather go paradox/bingle for max effect tbh

[chkflip]

Ah yes the planet I vote my ally out in limlo.

Yes yes I've been to this planet previously in the Never timeline.

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you're.. not voting them and are saying you'd rather go paradox/bingle? i'm confused

I've... already voted them today.

Voting you/Bingle today is just +EV for town IMO.

I am confirmed using an action. I am also confirmed not hitting my target. This implies my action failed. My action only fails on non-town vanillas. Bingle used his action. Only kills power roles. Also failed. This implies target is non-PR.

So Iconeum, therefore, is goon scum.

If Bingle isn't being honest, I still have the implications of my role on the slot.

If I'm of the assumption that Iconeum is 100% flipping red, I want to find his partner. The power role.

Only one of you/Bingle fits that bill. I'm a big game hunter.

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You are potentially not checker, though.

Same for Bingle.

If we really want to play outguess the mod I can opt in this round and explain in excruciating detail why either of your roles specifically, as town, are hogwash design amongst good-standing claims.

Scum really, really shouldn't have killed inu. I'm so sorry.

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Scum really, really shouldn't have killed inu. I'm so sorry.

what

Uncle Roger would say, "Haiyah!"

Scum should've killed me last night. I'm going to be a much bigger pain in the ass than inutile could've possibly been. So I'm apologizing to them for their tactical error. But which confident power role are they?

More at 11.

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Vote count 1.final

with 9 votes in play, it took 5 to make a decision. day 1 ended.

execution

Tayl0r Swift [5]:

Iconeum, chkflip, TheGoldenParadox, Chemist1422, inutile

[HAMMER]

TheGoldenParadox [4]:

bugspray, shellyc, Bingle, Tayl0r Swift

Not Voting [0]:

mod notes

~ I am currently sick, so please forgive if response times / VCs are slightly slower than usual.
~ Iconeum V/LA 11-12 November.
~ Iconeum standing V/LA weekends.

flavour

I didn't have to look very far.

Three flipped town on Paradox.

If Ico is scum, so is Paradox.

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Vote count 2.final

with 7 votes in play, it took 4 to make a decision. day 2 ended.

execution

PookyTheMagicalBear [4]:

Iconeum, TheGoldenParadox, chkflip, Bingle

[HAMMER]

Bingle [2]:

inutile, PookyTheMagicalBear

Not Voting [1]:

Chemist1422

mod notes

~ Iconeum standing weekend V/LA.

flavour

The audacity.

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You're assuming Paradox is a role we have no confirmable proof for.

Neither of them can be confirmed.

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well no if it was bingle/paradox they would have just hammered either me or ico by now

I'm not saying both tho?

[chkflip]

I'm saying Ico + Paradox or Bingle, not both.

[chkflip]

Which is why it's integral we sort Paradox/Bingle today.

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SLRolestopper
1 - Bingle
2 - Iconeum

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redacted

There a reason we're still doing this?

Simple yes or no.

[chkflip]

TGP/Ico or BungoBongoBingle/Ico.

I don't have a better answer than that.

"I could've" anything is WIFOM bullshit.

[chkflip]

Ico is all but confirmed, we need to find the partner today or at the very least isolate it to two to stand a chance tomorrow.

[chkflip]

I can't personally eliminate TGP/Bingle from my head but I want to vote there today anyway, so, I'm not terribly worried about absolute solving.

[chkflip]

I want a frog phone case lol

[chkflip]

bingle would have quickhammered ico if it was me/bingle so that's an impossible scumteam

WIFOM bullshit

Towncase Chem for me?

It's fucking Thanksgiving.

Also no.

It's Ico over Chem. You're more than welcome to attempt to convince the tribe otherwise.

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Twist my arm about it.

His solving is genuine, easiest way to put it. Been pretty solid throughout. At one point it was just gut but there's nothing he's done that's really changed that. If he's scum it's only with one of you, not Ico. Bussing in limlo is dangerous and I don't see Chem doing that for as little reason as he did today.

like, that's insanely poor form for any scumteam, and anyone who would ever do that deserves to be blacklisted and honestly tempbanned for gamethrowing.

Or

And I know this is wild

Both partners just couldn't coordinate getting on at the same time. Just because x hours existed that both were in hammer opportunity =/= both were around FOR said hammer opportunity.

So, yeah.

WIFOM bullshit.

Hope this helps.

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Again, the no reason bus.

Why not say a hundred other things to fucking 1v1 a townie dude.

Ico/Chem nowei

[chkflip]

I told y'all Ico was scum already. Them being at E-1 for any amount of time doesn't mean anything to me.

I don't want Ico if I don't have to have Ico.

[chkflip]

FUCK

I was doing so well

[chkflip]

~ damn you bingle!!

mod confirmed Bingle scum

[chkflip]

I'm here. I will hammer Ico.

I would rather vote TGP/Bingle today but I can't solve that by myself.

[chkflip]

ok

so

ok

I just like

ok




We CAN lynch Ico. Ico WILL flip scum. That's kind of a given at this point. It shall come to pass.

but also

We 100% need to file TGP/Bingle away.

Chemist

I'm speaking specifically to you here

I CANNOT STRESS E-FUCKIN-NOUGH

that if I have to be the one who goes to limlo

AND YOU DIDN'T FUCKING HELP ME MA'AM SO HELP ME GOD

[chkflip]

Then let's go all in.

VOTE: Bingle

[chkflip]

wdym

If we both go that way, we lock it in and if TGP is town he'll come to his senses and hammer. If we are correct in Ico/Bingle we win. That should be all the why you need. I'm good with Bingle over Para mechanically. The MAIN why, however, Is so that neither of us are in the fuck off position tomorrow of a) not having discussed this fully and b) not being sure. I 100% pretty much know you're town. Your role gels with my role the most. So I'm good following you even if we get it wrong today. Honestly, if we both get it wrong today I'd feel better than if only one of us got it wrong tomorrow.

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i refuse to vote for anyone except ico today because ico is confscum and bingle is not

You can refuse all you like but if we don't get a hammer we're fucking throwing, so. If you're good with that then good on your conscience I guess.

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You're fucking welcome.

So Paradox, Mr. Fancy Scummy Nominee, Ico now yeah?

[chkflip]

VOTE: Ico

I could do the whole think about it thing, but I'm honestly not interested. I may never forgive myself if Ico is town here, but like, I'm pretty sure we can conf scum there IIRC.

[chkflip]

Bingle: let's not misgender bugspray all game!

Also Bingle: let's kill bugspray N1 lmao

I enjoyed you setup, mod. Thanks.

[chkflip]

Seriously. I just wanna say, Dat, that it isn't on the moderator to make purposefully clashing/questionable/etc roles. That's 100% scums role in the game. There was literally nothing wrong with your setup and anyone telling you otherwise is just a salty peanut. You did great, the game was fun, and the memes were amazing.

Thank you.

[chkflip]

Then neither do I! Harumph.

[chkflip]

why did you crawl out of my pocket smfh

One cannot simply stay in a pocket forever.