976: mystyry box of sylvyr I: isis game. day 3

[Gypyx]

Hello y'all i'm a kind of reflexive role, could i get visits on me in the coming nights? Kthxbye

[Gypyx]

That would be epic ngl

[Gypyx]

Ari can be town also

[Gypyx]

Tris could you write you name smaller please? It's quite annoying to read it like that


Also thomas acknowledges the vote on him as RVS and yet he still acts as if he's being seriously suspected
VOTE: Thomas

[Gypyx]

Ari can be town also

Hey mastina!

Honestly, this post is just to claim the pagetop, but what part of Tris' post is so Alien to you? Why do you think it is scum?

Perhaps you'll be able to rrad me better at least

- Ari

this kinda pings my gut though I have trouble explaining why
ehhhh
VOTE: skye

ooooooooooo. now you guys have to fight each other.

interestingly though, i feel like i understand +joyed here more than i do gypyx. what leaps out as town about that post?

tris

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My post about ari was mostly a gut feeling

[Gypyx]

so, you refuse to face your accusers. interesting...

tris

like this is the person who first suggests his "RVS" isn't an "RVS" and actual scum read, so i dont know why you are misrepresenting me as if i am the one who "acknowledges RVS but is overreating"

like do we have 3 scums in this game or wut

You're the one who acts threatened by someone who expesses a scumread of you in RVS, while implying that you don't think the reason is correct

[Gypyx]

this is a bad reason to vote for thomas. you'll notice that akarin DOES actually suspect thomas.

So in your world, bad voting reason early = that person is scum?

Pedit : that's fair, but it doesn't mean they're not scum in any way

[Gypyx]

What does gelled mean?

[Gypyx]

I still don't know what it means lmao

[Gypyx]

i don't understand where you're coming from with things

mew

I'm just asking the meaning of a word like, bruh x)

[Gypyx]

Honestly, this post is just to claim the pagetop, but what part of Tris' post is so Alien to you? Why do you think it is scum?

Because gut?

Do you expect an actual logical reasoned case for a literal page one read?

Hello y'all i'm a kind of reflexive role, could i get visits on me in the coming nights? Kthxbye

Town.

nice try scum pgo

Town?

this kinda pings my gut though I have trouble explaining why
ehhhh
VOTE: skye

Shamelessly upgrading my read on you from Town? to Town.

VOTE: DoubtingThomas
Who, similarly, gets upgraded from scum? to Scum from page two.

Could you like, elaborate on these reads instead of just saying town / scum? I'd especially like to see your reason behind the read on nona and thomas

[Gypyx]

i don't understand where you're coming from with things

mew

I'm just asking the meaning of a word like, bruh x)

no, that is my answer to the question. that's what i mean by not jelling. specifically, i don't like your townread of that ari post or your scumread of thomas. you seemed to even concede to my points on thomas, but you're still voting them because they still might be scum???? even though you could say that about anyone else????

mew

Ah okay i see, well the ari townread is gut, and thomas is still the person i'm the most suspicious about, wdym by "ever thought you could say that about anyone else"?

[Gypyx]

Could you like, elaborate on these reads instead of just saying town / scum

I'm told that's what mastina does every game. I for one have no issue with it. Early readlists don't require much explanation

I'd rather have the reads be explained, can't hurt

[Gypyx]

Also, nic's style of posting is really weird, does anyone know them?

[Gypyx]

None of the above, nic's style is unusual, you can't deny that, therefore i'm asking if someone knows how he usually acts in general, idk why you're even trying to represent that as me reading him in a specific way

[Gypyx]

Why not just ask me?

Why not just answer me?

[Gypyx]

Why not just ask me?

Why not just answer me?

Okay. I think my posting is normal enough.

Now what? I wonder, is there anything you're getting at? If you don't think my posting is particularly scummy or particularly townie, what purpose does this question serve?
And as far as DT goes, is he worth an L-1 vote to you, or just L-2?

I find your entrance / the way you mostly do some small questions unusual

And i'd rather have a better understeanding of your posting in order to sort you more efficiently

Definetly worth an exe-1 vote

[Gypyx]

Ok so thomas is making an enormous fuss about me asking about me asking questions about someone's meta, which like, is not AI in any way

Like, sure thomas's case is wordy, but he repeats his points a lot, to compensate for the lack of content in it

He's even getting to the point of not understeanding the obvious formulation of my post, which has got to be the biggest tunnel i have ever seen of simply just deliberate

And also, to anyone who's interested i have already asked open questions about someone's meta before, and i am the kind of person to forget what questions i asked / accidentally make up others

[Gypyx]

Would be cool to hear from the less active players

[Gypyx]

Hey sorry for the lack of posting, real life been quite busy

So, i kinda doubt that both nic and thomas are scum together, for the reason that like, we have 4 low activity slots i don't think these slots are all town, therefore by PoE i'd say that nic is very likely town

[Gypyx]

Could you like, elaborate on these reads instead of just saying town / scum? I'd especially like to see your reason behind the read on nona and thomas

Can I? Yes.

Will I?

Only if need be, and right now I don't feel the need to, so no.

And why that? What's the incentive to not give the reasons behind your reads?

[Gypyx]

What do you think about my read on you? Does it have any bearing on your read on me?

Well the argument is wrong, but i think it isn't dishonest or anything so your read on me doesn't matter

Also, plus just put me at Exe-1 without notifying the rest of the game, highly doubt that this is accidental

I'd still prefere if we push thomas, but plus is a good alternative

[Gypyx]

Nic unvoted

[Gypyx]

Ok so thomas is making an enormous fuss about me asking about me asking questions about someone's meta, which like, is not AI in any way

Like, sure thomas's case is wordy, but he repeats his points a lot, to compensate for the lack of content in it

He's even getting to the point of not understeanding the obvious formulation of my post, which has got to be the biggest tunnel i have ever seen of simply just deliberate

And also, to anyone who's interested i have already asked open questions about someone's meta before, and i am the kind of person to forget what questions i asked / accidentally make up others

thing is, while i don't think you're question there was scummy in isolation, it's the lack of going out and interacting with people that i don't like, and so you're just sitting there making remarks about someone's posting style, and reacting to people voting you. i don't see any sign that you actually want to find the scum.

Huh, it's kinda the opposite of what you've said though, like, i'm the one starting the conversations with peoples, where have i exactly been reacting to being voted by peoples?

[Gypyx]

@tgp what do you think about Plus not annoucing the Exe-1 on me?

[Gypyx]

Also why is akarin in null? He's pretty towny imo

[Gypyx]

Also why is akarin in null? He's pretty towny imo

She. And really when there are only 2 scum in the game, handing out townreads to everyone else but me and the 2 scumreads makes that null realistically a lean scum on TGP's part.

Is that a scumslip? Like, how do you know there are only 2 scum in the game?

VOTE: Akarin

[Gypyx]

Also why is akarin in null? He's pretty towny imo

explanation for why akarin is townie, please

My gut liked akin's posts so far, especially 40 and 114 (trying to stpp the "irrelevant" stuff) but that doesn't really matter now

Pedit : true, but like, it's mystery box, not a typical game, and the info you quoted even gives another possible srtup design

[Gypyx]

Akarin / nic might be the team

Akarin, while you're here, why did you assume 2 scum vs 7 town?

[Gypyx]

Gypyx, your wagon has shrunk a little, but I don't think anyone who unvoted announced a change in opinion. Additionally, Akarin earlier said she would support either you or DT.

So in a way, you didn't just make it to T-1, you already got 5 votes and you're practically launched off into space.

I wonder, what's your plan on getting out of this situation? I don't think playing it cool is going to work.

I don't have a plan, like, just play the game and hope peoples can read me? Idk

[Gypyx]

Akarin / nic might be the team

Akarin, while you're here, why did you assume 2 scum vs 7 town?

Because it literally says that in the setup.

5 3rd parties of which 2 of them share a wincon and a PT is a 2-player scumteam. But we know which it is as soon as we get a non-town flip.

You said

only

2 scum though, that's not the same thing

[Gypyx]

Yeah, akarin's reaction doesn't feel genuine, like, he's making kinda convoluted explainations and trying to deflect the pressure

[Gypyx]

Yeah, akarin's reaction doesn't feel genuine, like, he's making kinda convoluted explainations and trying to deflect the pressure

She

And what don't you understand?

Sorry, and wdym by "not understeand"?

[Gypyx]

And btw, i've played a game with dunnstral recently, he was about as inactive as here and town, so i'm not sure this is AI

[Gypyx]

No one's interested in an Akarin wagon right now?

[Gypyx]

Yeah, akarin's reaction doesn't feel genuine, like, he's making kinda convoluted explainations and trying to deflect the pressure

She

And what don't you understand?

Sorry, and wdym by "not understeand"?

What's convoluted? I thought I explained everything pretty clearly and I'd like to clear up any confusion.

The reasoning you expressed about the 3rd parties not counting as scum, that's kinda weird imo, like, because the size of a scumteam is 1, you don't include it?

[Gypyx]

Nic, you're some kind of informed townie or what?

[Gypyx]

hello, i just studied for 7 hours straight and my brain is completely dead, but i'll probably not be able to post again before deadline so catching up

My limpool for today contains probably plus / Thomas (need re-reading), i'd still like Akarin but it's not happening

[Gypyx]

sorry

niccage has mod confirmed info that you're 90% likely to be town and 10% to be scum

and he put you at l-1? what?

intent to hammer

Are you intent to hammering someone who you are pushing in the same post or am I misundersteanding?

[Gypyx]

also to be honest, the idea of a hood in that kind of setup is weird, like, i've read the flavor phrases, and i don't see anything that sticks to that, 3rd party is a reasonable possibility imo

[Gypyx]

@SKYE why keep your nic vote in your post if you're just changing it anyways?

[Gypyx]

Yeah i think i'll VOTE: PlusJOYED

Anyone wanna discuss anything before i fall asleep?

[Gypyx]

Unnoficial VC

Dunnstral (3):

Akarin, mastina, Niccage

Gypyx (1):

PlusJOYED

mastina (1):

Dunnstral

NicCage (1):

TheGoldenParadox
Plus joyed (2) : Gypyx ; Akarin

not voting (2):

DoubtingThomas ; SKYE

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to Perform a Dastardly Deed. day 1 ends november 9th at 10:50 central US time; in (expired on 2020-11-09 10:50:00)

So, we got low time, i'll switch to dunn in ~1h30/2h30 if it looks like a plus wagon won't hit

[Gypyx]

VOTE: dunnstraal

Not a fan of this vote, but we need an exe, and i'm not taking risks about the deadline extension

[Gypyx]

(Reminder that i'd appreciate being targeted by night actions)

[Gypyx]

3+1 = 4 though

[Gypyx]

I'll keep it for now, but if anyone wanna vore plus i'm keeping an eye on the thread

[Gypyx]

Only if replace

[Gypyx]

Maybe not (not sure about the deadline thing)

Dunn at 3 votes, plus at 2, no other wagon i think

[Gypyx]

Who y'all wanna vote?

[Gypyx]

We have 3 minutes

[Gypyx]

TGP could you launch plus?

[Gypyx]

I know that

[Gypyx]

Really not a fan of it, but not getting anyond would be worst

[Gypyx]

Welp, timer expired, should we slow down?

[Gypyx]

Idk, i understood the deadline thingy as : if someone replaces plus, we get more time, so not guaranteed

And what's openwolfing btw?

[Gypyx]

I was stressed by the deadline

[Gypyx]

And TGP wasn't going on joyed

Pedit : ah okay, well why do you think i'm town then if i'm scumclaiming? @akarin

[Gypyx]

UNVOTE:

[Gypyx]

I thought dunn had more votes that's why

[Gypyx]

alright so, i think we wait for someone to replace plus?

[Gypyx]

I'm back, reading what has happened

We only have one day btw, now would be a good time to consolidate a wagon for good

[Gypyx]

And TGP wasn't going on joyed

Pedit : ah okay, well why do you think i'm town then if i'm scumclaiming? @akarin

This hasn't been answered i think

[Gypyx]

Could anyone summarize me the case on nic?

What does TWTBAW mean?

Pedit : I doubt TGP is happening today akarin

[Gypyx]

Pedit : I doubt TGP is happening today akarin

I doubt it too. Not actually sure why though.

Why vote there then?

[Gypyx]

Also btw, i see it's been brought up, so my role pm has terms leaving 3p possible in it, therefore it's kinda weird for nic to have "town" and "mafia"

[Gypyx]

VOTE: niccage

I probably won't have much time today so popping in to place my vote

[Gypyx]

Ok so hmmmm, Akarin is pretty likely to be scum based on math being the nightkill imo, and i still haven't given up my scumread on her

VOTE: Akarin

[Gypyx]

Gypyx is scummy because he's been sitting back all game long and then tried to elim me when it doesn't make sense while trying to act neutral about it

You think trying to exe at deadline doesn't make sense?

[Gypyx]

Akarin is pretty likely to be scum based on math being the nightkill imo,

Why?

Math / me are the only ones SR'ing akarin, it was also the main / only read Math pushed, even if scum were just going for obvtown, akarin makes way more sense as the NK in a town!akarin world

[Gypyx]

Ok so hmmmm, Akarin is pretty likely to be scum based on math being the nightkill imo, and

i still haven't given up my scumread on her

VOTE: Akarin

is this still based on the scumslip thing?

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@schadd_

you can take me off vla. ari did that because he's going to be vla, but i'm here.

Well yeah, and also thier behaviour around the fake deadline was kinda like, stalling, in a way i'm not a fan of

Just dropped by to post this, i'm really busy rn

[Gypyx]

I've also been feeling like I really need to put some time in and read and old Gypyx game, don't want to coast on my townread there, especially given his approach to... NK analysis here.

Gypyx, do you have a town game you think is particularly similar to your play in this game?

Well, i'm actively trying to keep my playstyle changed and i have a rate of like, 50% scum games so it's kind of hard to find meta reads for me but here ya go : viewtopic.php?f=2&t=83755

I think it's more easier to see that i'm not being scum rather than i'm being town, like, my scumgame is pretty obvious on tone

[Gypyx]

So uhhhh yeah i'm here

[Gypyx]

What's the case on SKYEscrapers apart from them not liking my behaviour at the first deadline? I don't think i've seen anything else

[Gypyx]

for whenever you get back, what do you think of the information the fact that i 100% agree with what akarin was saying with the stuff that you interpreted as a scum slip?

as for the stalling. I think stalling makes sense if you're unsure about whether it really is the deadline.

The Empress

You agree, like, you were thinking it was 2v7?

[Gypyx]

Oh uh, deadline's closing in again, i'll try to reread SKYE / mastina, leaning townards skye tho

UNVOTE:

Could both SKYE / Mastina try to towncase themselves?

[Gypyx]

Who's your N1?

[Gypyx]

ok, i'm going to put my vote here now. VOTE: thomas

i don't think my vote on gypyx really serves any purpose. i still want to here from him about when he decided to townlean us.

i think my town pings on thomas were a bit flimsy.

The Empress

Uh well, i don't really recall expressing a townlean on you lmao, if I actually did this was probably a random read

[Gypyx]

huh second VT, i think any other vanilla town should claim right?

also i thought about something, maybe like, the roles we have got assigned

before

the alignements? that would make sense with nic's information

so if i'm right speculating if a role is scummy or not wouldn't actually make sense

[Gypyx]

Hello, i'm a Reflexive Follower, no one visited me the whole game

Me - Reflexife Follower
Dunnstral - Odd-Night Loud Alien Neighbor
SKYE - 1-shot alien
Mastina - Combined tracker doctor
Akarin - ???

[Gypyx]

I think my flavor phrase is : Larger radars usually are used for longer range, while radars designed for detailed imaging of objects may be smaller.

[Gypyx]

How likely is a dunn / SKYE scumteam? Like, i kinda feel like that alien claim thingy is scum theatre

[Gypyx]

Did you crumb your role anywhere akarin?

[Gypyx]

What sentance do you think your role matches to? Because i'm not seeing it

[Gypyx]

VOTE: akarin

[Gypyx]

Oh god, my heart can't take this

Gg y'all

[Gypyx]

Honestly, that setup was weirder than the usual MBOS stuff

[Gypyx]

I'm pretty happy for this game to be the exception tbh, like, i'm on a loseStreak these last 6 months xd

[Gypyx]

Also Akarin i'm curious, why did you townread me when you've read my towngames?

[Gypyx]

Also Akarin i'm curious, why did you townread me when you've read my towngames?

I discarded that today, but I'd noticed in your previous scumgames that you were interacting with your scumbuddies in particular ways that you weren't doing here.

The other stuff I attributed to you getting less involved in the game due to the D2 slowdown.

Like, what kind of way? (Sorry if i'm asking too much)

[Gypyx]

Could you 2 please calm down? I'm sad to see this endgame just turn into a "did mastina play good" argument :/

[Gypyx]

Mfw akarin flips Novice Investigatoire Vengeful and you (ari) are a JOAT (Alien ; Vigilante)

[Gypyx]

Should I read the pages since hammer or is it just Akarin being mad at me and mastina egostroking?

Basically yes

[Gypyx]

Yeah i know don't worry, we got as an info there was a novice investigatoire

[Gypyx]

Gg all !

[Gypyx]

Also, what was the canadian townie?

[Gypyx]

Ah okay

[Gypyx]

also, will dead PT get released?