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Post #187 (isolation #3) » Sun Nov 08, 2020 7:56 pm
Postby Iconeum »
Spoiler:
In post 35, bugspray wrote:Hello all! First of all VOTE: shelly stop rolling scum thx.
To help give interesting content for early RVS I've decided to play some unmodified Sim City 4. I remember reading somewhere that the developers at Maxis intentionally built Sim City 4 to be easily modded but I don't know anything about moddinf Sim City 4 so I'm just not going to play it that way (and also I'm bad at Sim City).
Here's a basic little setup I made:
I named the city GeorgeBailey for obvious reasons.
There is someone missing dearly from the plist so I'm going to have to just include him in my city.
The city grew for a while but also I'm bad at sim city and have no clue what I'm doing so basically it caught on fire and then things went downhill from there...
guess what its tone-reading time:
Tayl0r Swift - one post only
Iconeum - weekend v/la
TheGoldenParadox - scumlean? the "bugs is derailing but town" weirds me out as shading
inutile - scumlean. self-aware, seems to be very verbose yet a lot of that iso is fluff.
Chemist1422 - null atm
bugspray - townlean. the vibing/agreement with bingle on inutile feels genuine.
Bingle - townlean. the right amount of townie jokey energy and solving. like the tone a lot.
chkflip - two posts
i don't really see why you should scumread someone going 'oh look this player is derailing and i think it's +town for them'?
not really disagreeing with your other stuff in here
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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In post 192, Iconeum wrote:i don't really see why you should scumread someone going 'oh look this player is derailing and i think it's +town for them'?
but the line of thinking was that derailing was a scummy thing to do. which doesn't match up with the end result of a TR there.
i don't see it like that
i've had plenty of examples myself where i see someone do something scummy, or have a scummy read, and i still end up 'this is probably town anyway'
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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yeah it also says micro in the thread title. youre assuming i pay attention. sometimes i do, but i didnt have much time and i was trying to catch up. sometimes i dont. me not paying attention is town indicative. me being aware of that though... im prolly just scum here.
i SR TGP for the same reasons as everyone else on the wagon. the bugspray affair was very strange. TGP seems like outed scum. also i think its time for a claim given the unvote to avoid a lolhammer but its still a vote in spirit. speaking of: UNVOTE:
fairly sure you can't even produce said reasons 'same like everone else' when asked
this flips red
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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In post 217, Tayl0r Swift wrote:yeah it also says micro in the thread title. youre assuming i pay attention. sometimes i do, but i didnt have much time and i was trying to catch up. sometimes i dont. me not paying attention is town indicative. me being aware of that though... im prolly just scum here.
taylor feels pretty dejected imo. this is prob too scummy to be scum again
I have it on the scummer Noraa's authority that taylor feels she hasn't rolled enough scum and will be excited to roll scum.
bugs what do you feel is fluff here?
doubt
taylor projected they had actually caught up because of the 'i'm scumreading TGP for same reasons everyone else is', which assumes being caught up
they still put TGP on E-1 without calling it out
and when pressured on this, they unvote
it reeks
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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In post 238, inutile wrote:yes as part of your vote on the golden paradox, which is part of why it is mafia indicative. why would town!you think 'ah inutile is pushing someone i am about to vote for, but she did not vote and i am going to thus she is mafia if the golden paradox is!'? like that just seems like mafia logic to me.
if thegoldenparadox is town, the scum motivation for you to tie me to it is to have better reasoning for your push, as you were previously voting me.
if thegoldenparadox is mafia, the scum motivation for you to push them and tie me to it would be because there was already a lot of pressure, and you can get credit for it, especially since your immediate thought was 'and these three other players are mafia also!'.
Three people, FMPOV, saw obvscum behavior and then left their votes from RVS. Turns out, Chem was voting TGP in RVS, so she's good, but noting the obvscum behavior and avoiding dropping a vote is not a good look. I called that shit out.
Calling you and flippy out has literally no bearing on TGP's likelihood to be scum. If->then statements are not symmetrical. And if TGP is my scumbuddy, letting me bus them is probably better for town than trying to derail the wagon.
wait what was the obvscum part?
Rawr!
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Post #265 (isolation #28) » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:07 pm
Postby Iconeum »
In post 258, bugspray wrote:iconeum what doy ou think about all of this bullshit?
i don't think there's a ton of bullshit
taylor was looking like scum yesterday, but this weird 'i should be flipped' thing is... well weird
I think I might have missed smt on TGP during my first catchup
Bingle and Inutile can just keep going at it, that's gonna be great to analyze later on.
So early read is smt like scum!taylor + 1 in bingle/tgp/inutile or a lower hanging fruit type of scum in bugs/chem maybe
but this game is only getting started and i like where we are at
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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In post 257, chkflip wrote:This is the second time you've imposed your read as my read. Please stop doing that.
If I parsed your sentence improperly (as I acknowledged might be the case), maybe correct that parsing instead of complaining about how I can't read the shit you say:
This isn't to say that I don't think we'll miselim or anything -- far from it
-- it's just that we're in too early for a hammer at all for the base to have a consensus of good reads.
bugspray
shellyc
Tayl0r Swift
Iconeum
Chemist1422
chkflip
inutile
TheGoldenParadox
Is my rough town to scum. There's 4 days and change left on the clock. The only slot that hasn't really done *anything* is Chem, who isn't being prodded by anybody. Flipping TGP gives me information about most of the players on the list, and someone hammering out of the blue when there's been so much noise about it is laughable.
More to the point though, I asked who
you
were trying to read, because as I see it you've done nothing but complain about there being an E-1 wagon since post 178. Oh. And a naked vote.
i do not understand that readslist
why is bugs on top
why is taylor so high up
why is chemist so high
...
Rawr!
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Post #272 (isolation #31) » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:26 pm
Postby Iconeum »
In post 270, shellyc wrote:im pretty torn on bingle atm: my SRs are giving a lot of pressure there and the tone sounds fine but bingle seemingly is preparing for a TGP!town world
ico can you weigh in on this
from a sorting pov, bingle v inutile is either t/t or s/t
like i said previously, i'm watching this develop
neither side is screaming scum to me or i'd be pounding there already
neither side is screaming town to me or i'd be defending there
you can call this a fencesit if you like, but it's how i feel about it
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
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Post #276 (isolation #32) » Mon Nov 09, 2020 7:34 pm
Postby Iconeum »
In post 273, Tayl0r Swift wrote:ico is more of a presence in this game than i recall it being in the past. but its for sure a small sample size.
this game is odd though. i think the best thing for the game at this point is a flip. its not a lot of content but scum wont have had time to do anything, so if we flip here its prolly pro-town.
i can assure you i'm a presence in most games i play in
Rawr!
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Post #444 (isolation #47) » Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:23 am
Postby Iconeum »
Not much time weekend vla
Can't sort through the claims rn but dhelly
I was the one to initiate the push on Taylor, not hop on. Feels like a twitch reaction on your end to open up scum reads because apparently every one else is a pr
Rawr!
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Post #478 (isolation #50) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:03 pm
Postby Iconeum »
In post 443, shellyc wrote:if this was a mini normal i'd believe all 4 made up the setup but eh...
also starting to HEAVILY lose confidence on ico!town on a reread. iso feels quite lackluster/consensusy in some places, pushing at taylor when thread was Heavily Scumreading there and there's a general reluctance to solve especially around bingle/inutile
You were hard-townreading me previously
Everything for which you were townreading me is still there, the only thing that changed is a massclaim. You saw that your options close, so you open up reads by going 'oh yeah i just read back and this townread i had, yeah it's gone'.
Why didn't you scumread me previously then, shellyc? This entire change is rubbing off so bad on me...
Rawr!
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Post #479 (isolation #51) » Sun Nov 15, 2020 8:08 pm
Postby Iconeum »
In post 466, inutile wrote:if non-bingle parties could weigh in on whether or not they think a complex vigilante makes sense here, that'd be nice. however, for bingle to be lying and chkflip to be truthful i think mafia would have to know chkflip's role. from claim order it seems like both truthful or chkflip untruthful are more likely but a sometimes vigilante making the game losable for town on day two feels incorrect to me.
i just witnessed a Bulletproof Vengefull in a game, so i'm not counting out any possible roles that don't seem to make sense
it would be swingy as hell, but i've seen wonky stuff going into games lately...
Rawr!
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#Town!Ico.never.does.that.
"paying to play mafia is like paying someone to punch you in the face" ~ Datisi