Micro 989 - Never Trust Trees | Mafia Wins!

[Noraas Bakery]

FIRST!

VOTE: Noraa's Bakery

VOTE: flea
OMGUS

I think we should elim in the pool first. a little safer no?

If I’m eliminated Mafia will win as I am a Town Shady

this is kind of scummy tho

[Noraas Bakery]

I don't really know anyone in this PL O.o

-cakez

[Noraas Bakery]

FIRST!

VOTE: Noraa's Bakery

How dare you steal MY FIRST POST?!

VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: Flea

HMPH

-angrynornor

[Noraas Bakery]

This setup is fucked I have no clue what's going to happen next.

I feel like Ythan took a stroll in my brain and stole some of my thoughts :O

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

right off the bat, I think Mom is bit more scummy.

Dislike the vt claim on page 1 like .... dude chill.

-nronor

[Noraas Bakery]

If we eliminate wrong in the 1v1 we lose, and to win we have to eliminate right in the 1v1 AND get the traitor. Right?

I think this is right.

Can someone explain the setup to me?
I hands down don't get it.
Never played in a game with roles like Flagbearer or Shady and I have no idea what optimal play here is.

-nronor

[Noraas Bakery]

If I’m eliminated Mafia will win as I am a Town Shady

This post makes me not want to elim mini today for obvious reasons.
Btw Mini is ur recovery coming along well?
My heart goes out to u and I hope u haz a speedy recovery!

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Don't anyone dare steal

[Noraas Bakery]

My pagetop

[Noraas Bakery]

Mine!

[Noraas Bakery]

Phew
*wipes forehead*
got my page top.
off to bed.
-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

right off the bat, I think Mom is bit more scummy.

Dislike the vt claim on page 1 like .... dude chill.

-nronor

What do you mean?

Ignore me I was mixing games up. Thought it was super LAMIST to claim vt.

If I’m eliminated Mafia will win as I am a Town Shady

This post makes me not want to elim mini today for obvious reasons.
Btw Mini is ur recovery coming along well?
My heart goes out to u and I hope u haz a speedy recovery!

-nornor

What do you think are the obvious reasons?

Well I was assuming that she would get cc'ed if her claim were fake and she was a goon so I believe the claim unless she gets cc'ed.

Mini and Mom if you're both off the table for today who do you want for traitor?

I was thinking not you but not sure, not enough info. If I am town, do you see any motivation to push someone who isn't the goon?

All that aside, I didn't engage in any kind of 1v1.

right off the bat, I think Mom is bit more scummy.

Dislike the vt claim on page 1 like .... dude chill.

-nronor

Everyone is VT aside from flagbearer who doesn't even know that they are a flagbearer

Who do you think is the goon?

The first time I didn't understand what you said.
The second time I also didn't.
But the THIRD time, oh boy I felt ENLIGHTENED.
I love making fun of people's wifi.

Mom and mega are actually the two scummiest people in the thread for me at this point.

It seems to be the consensus atm but im not understanding it. Am I reading the setup wrong or something?

FIRST!

VOTE: Noraa's Bakery

How dare you steal MY FIRST POST?!

VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: Flea

HMPH

-angrynornor

FIRST!

VOTE: Noraa's Bakery

VOTE: flea
OMGUS

Amazing (ᗒᗜᗕ)՛̵̖ Got both heads with 1 post

That's it, I've won. Go home people.

:O Why flea so cute
*watery anime eyes when the anime character sees a cute puppy*

Sorry Cake. I hath fallen to the curse of the cuteness
UNVOTE:

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Mini and Mom if you're both off the table for today who do you want for traitor?

Honestly it could be anyone that’s the scary thought

I think I like this for town

disagree

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

This is a lot to try and wrap my head around
My brain isn't used to so much thinking, holy shit

VOTE: facebones
scummy post

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

This is a lot to try and wrap my head around
My brain isn't used to so much thinking, holy shit

VOTE: facebones
scummy post

-cake

:/
*confusion*
imma go grab my hydra partner. We don't seem to be agreeing on reads lol.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Humor me the situation where we are both town

Town

Noraa's Bakery
Ythan

Facebones
P
Rockhopper

Vanderscamp
FleaTheMagician

Scum

Best looked at on d2
Momrangal
MiniMegabyte


I think this is what I wanna play with

These two posts don't match up....

I'm kinda confused about the setup @_@
Imma go ask Cake cuz he probs knows :O

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

That... that's a pretty well sorted reads list （○□○）bit early ain't it?

............TMI? Or Noraa paranoia soda? :/

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Flea that post you just made gives me the heebie jeebies.

Good vibes from you so far. Hope ur not planning to break my heart and snow me for betraying u in mafisunny

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

You got me, I'm scummy

Vote: Facebones

I thought I was being discreet good luck everyone else

this is not a great reactions either!

I concur with my partner that Ythan seems townie
a lot of players in this game giving me that LHF vibe

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

Spoiler:

right off the bat, I think Mom is bit more scummy.

Dislike the vt claim on page 1 like .... dude chill.

-nronor

What do you mean?

Ignore me I was mixing games up. Thought it was super LAMIST to claim vt.

If I’m eliminated Mafia will win as I am a Town Shady

This post makes me not want to elim mini today for obvious reasons.
Btw Mini is ur recovery coming along well?
My heart goes out to u and I hope u haz a speedy recovery!

-nornor

What do you think are the obvious reasons?

Well I was assuming that she would get cc'ed if her claim were fake and she was a goon so I believe the claim unless she gets cc'ed.

Mini and Mom if you're both off the table for today who do you want for traitor?

I was thinking not you but not sure, not enough info. If I am town, do you see any motivation to push someone who isn't the goon?

All that aside, I didn't engage in any kind of 1v1.

right off the bat, I think Mom is bit more scummy.

Dislike the vt claim on page 1 like .... dude chill.

-nronor

Everyone is VT aside from flagbearer who doesn't even know that they are a flagbearer

Who do you think is the goon?

The first time I didn't understand what you said.
The second time I also didn't.
But the THIRD time, oh boy I felt ENLIGHTENED.
I love making fun of people's wifi.

Mom and mega are actually the two scummiest people in the thread for me at this point.

It seems to be the consensus atm but im not understanding it. Am I reading the setup wrong or something?

FIRST!

VOTE: Noraa's Bakery

How dare you steal MY FIRST POST?!

VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: VOTE: Flea

HMPH

-angrynornor

FIRST!

VOTE: Noraa's Bakery

VOTE: flea
OMGUS

Amazing (ᗒᗜᗕ)՛̵̖ Got both heads with 1 post

That's it, I've won. Go home people.

:O Why flea so cute
*watery anime eyes when the anime character sees a cute puppy*

Sorry Cake. I hath fallen to the curse of the cuteness
UNVOTE:

-nornor

I feel like if you were scum you might not think the stuff about shady being uncountered.

Please snip or spoiler long quotes O.O - JV

Yeah, I just realized that a shady wasn't a pr and can't really be countered/no one would fake claim it cuz that's a dumb idea.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Well I was assuming that she would get cc'ed if her claim were fake and she was a goon so I believe the claim unless she gets cc'ed.

Huh??? This makes no sense to me please explain how when announced in the beginning of the game that by the mod I’m the shady that I can be cc’ed.

Wait so you're an IC?
Im confused again.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

You know that MiniMegabyte is the Shady, their alignment is not confirmed.

Wait nvm.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

If Momrangal gets ganked and happens to be the town flagbearer I'm gonna be so super cross
Fuck oath

This post is sending me weird vibes. I'm honestly fine with a serious vote on Facebones.

I'm not sure I see what Ythan sees in Momrangal and Mini but that may be due to my lack of understanding the setup. I'll try to figure it out.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Is it? I didn't even notice
Thanks for clearing that up

I guess that ties everything up in a neat, little package.
What ever would I do without you, Mr. Ythan? Up until then my outlook had been limited, but you have opened up my eyes, and I don't think there's anything I can ever do to repay you.

Just note that I am truly grateful for you explaining to me the point of the set up.

..........wtf is this post?

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

It's just a thank you post because I obviously had no idea about the point of the set up or how it worked. If Ythan hadn't told me what it was, I'd more than likely still be standing in the corner with drool coming out of my mouth. He's the real MVP.

Why? What else would it be? What are you implying? Huh?

It looks EXTREMELY bad if you were not joking/being sarcastic. It really does.

I think I'm gonna take back my town reads on noracakes

I generally expect a uh ... followup?

Ok wait so basically out of mini and mom, one will make us insta lose and one will make us insta win? something like that?
So if Mini is scum, Mom is flagbearer. So Mini die = half win. Mom die = lose
If mini town, mom is scum. So mini die = lose. Mom die = half win.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Tell me what you're thinking my dear sweet cakey nora

it sounded like you *KNEW* the reads were right. could be wording problem. dunno.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Stop drinking the soda and share what you're thinking nornor

Facebones has a lot of AtE/buddying/LAMIST posts. they look really bad.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

We should be looking for the traitor today and saving the 1v1 for when we've just hit a misyeet and will lose anyway on a second consecutively.

agree. who do you think are the possible candidates.

Currently think it is Facebones but im still sorting. Vanderscamp hasn't pinged me anyways unlike he has pinged others.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

catching up

Are people going to finally talk about the elephants in the room

?????

And also, I can only sit and wait for so goddamn long. It seems like there are so many people this game who are avoiding talking about the set up, which should have been a topic to talk about from the start. It seems like there is confusion yet those who are confused are not doing anything to understand what's going on.


There are exactly three other oeople who have taken note of the set up and is keeping that in mind when it comes to how they approach this game.

Ythan has been made the effort to play with the set up and *finally* rock hopper.

And then there is minimegabyte who is avoiding game analysis only to continue to get a lynch off my slot. I'm about 50% sure it's scummini pushing a lynch on the flagbearer but I'm not willing to end the game today in the off chance that he's doing whatever gambit his mind comes up with. The game has been live for several days now but it seems like the only thing people aren't aware of the fact that tomorrow the game could end if we don't get engaged today

who cares? we've already generally agreed to look outside the Shady

Downside to being neurodivergent. On the upside, it makes this game fun.

ayyy neurodivergent hype!
sadly I think you might be scum here
but I have no desire to move our Facebones vote

[Noraas Bakery]

then the one who first disagreed decided I was scum due to the alleged millions of very bad buddying attempts I've made

????

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

Currently I think that if Mom is scum, then Facebones is an extremely likely partner
If mini is scum, I'm thinking rockhopper who seems to think mini is obvtown or something is probs the partner

I am I think somewhat ok with Flea this game which is interesting. I also just think their interactions with people aren't agenda-y and they dont really fit well with either mom or mini.

Im comfortable townblocking Ythan with Flea on the outskirts of the town block.

I just realized Cake thinks Flea is scum. Ig we'll talk it out sometime today and reach an agreement somewhere along the way.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

I'm thinking rockhopper who seems to think mini is obvtown or something is probs the partner

well, to clarify, he used to. then he like flipped it and I didn't really see a progression.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Oh lol this game exists.
lemme catch up.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Ok wait so basically out of mini and mom, one will make us insta lose and one will make us insta win? something like that?
So if Mini is scum, Mom is flagbearer. So Mini die = half win. Mom die = lose
If mini town, mom is scum. So mini die = lose. Mom die = half win.

Are you and cake actually talking? Why hasn't he clarified this for you yet? I know he's around and posting in this thread

he isn't too sure either. I don't think cakey's been paying much attention due to him modding some big games rn.

I'm thinking rockhopper who seems to think mini is obvtown or something is probs the partner

well, to clarify, he used to. then he like flipped it and I didn't really see a progression.

-nornor

Why is rockhopper calling mini obv town and then flipping the read indicative of them being together?

It felt like he flipped due to consensus but originally wanted to TR mini. Not sure if that's necessarily partner indicative but it doesn't look that great.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Noorraaaa where arrreee youuuu???

Did someone get afeared?

................LOL.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

I literally just posted my TODO list without any context and you want on the list

have u done any fo that to do list?

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Ketchup finished! Back to my other threads. Catch y'all laters

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

I finally got around to rereading parts of death curse today and honestly, I think this flea is just a player that doesn't make all that much sense to me. I've talked to Cake about this and he doesn't really agree and still SLs them but based on meta, I think flea is just very fluffy and hard to understand as town. I imagine their scum game is probably more put together and easy to understand as thats normally how those players work.

Cake still SLs but I've convinced him to cave to me if we really need a solid yes or no type of thing.

-nornor

Catching up~~

[Noraas Bakery]

VOTE: Ythan

You've assumed my list is my suspicions and asked to be added to it, you're now refusing to co-operate and not contributing to the game, soooooooo (☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)☞ Vote Time

What are you talking about here? I went back and had a look. They said if that was a list of who suspected you to add them to it

I personally think it was a misunderstandings given they are both TRs but I'm open to other opinions on this.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Why would you want adding onto someones shitlist?

I mean I think ythan just wants a read on himself from you. And then he also is expressing his SR on u thru that at the same time.

-nor

[Noraas Bakery]

halfway caught up. is there some reason people think mom or mini are town? I don't really lean either way on either anymore.
there's a lot of things that are bothering me from both and they can't both be scum.

Like Mini doesn't come in and say "Mom is scum" Mini just dances around this wagon and its like ... HUH.
And then Mom is not like convinced Mini is scum. It's like .... if ur town, and the shady is shading u, they should be like confscum from ur perspective, right?!
The setup is confusing me so bad cuz neither of them is acting the way I would expect them to if they're town in their situation. I still feel like I'm misreading the setup cuz nothing is making sense. Like neither person seems convinced the other is scum and that's just like ... weird as hell?

Mom's reasoning for TRing/TLing people are just like one sentence that basically just says "these people are towny"
I'm not liking what I see from mom tho I admit the SR on me has something to do with my dislike.

Mini never really called Mom scum and that's just strange as hell.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Flea town cuz meta.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Pedit: the game state decided collectively to leave shady and his target for D2 and nabbing the traitor and finding the goon for d1

Yeah I know. Im just curious about this.

I think its pretty clear that everyone thinks Facebones is a traitor or goon here and nothing they've said has really helped ease my suspicions in the least bit.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

soooo I may or may not have forgotten about this game <.<

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

Ok wait so basically out of mini and mom, one will make us insta lose and one will make us insta win? something like that?
So if Mini is scum, Mom is flagbearer. So Mini die = half win. Mom die = lose
If mini town, mom is scum. So mini die = lose. Mom die = half win.

Are you and cake actually talking? Why hasn't he clarified this for you yet? I know he's around and posting in this thread

only some not as much as some hydra peeps will do
im v distracted rn with other stuff on this site

I really dislike Flea's posting on page 9 it feels so fake I disagree with noraa
especially 220

I think scum is between flea, rock, nora, and vander with rock having the best chance of being town between those and fuck if I know for the other three. At least one there is wronf

this post is so bad it literally scumpools half the game in a micro

I was suspicious on a lack of communication between the two heads, bit Nora's response there is reasonable enough but it feels like overall, she is playing a role, doing a facade to seem like a confused townie

no we are both just confused people in general

we should just hammer Facebones and move on anyways
WOW we have 8 hours left! jeez
no interest in Rockhopper elim

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

I will try to be more present here

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

someone hammer please
and @mod prod people
thanks <3

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

1 hour left. Thats a huge RIP. Day 1 with 13 pages.
Ouch.
No lim might even be a better option at this point but for now, lets just,

request deadline extension

Since its nightless, I feel like no lim day 1 probably isn't even that bad? thoughts?

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Flea, you forgot to include a hammer gif!



-nnoornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Facebones has been ganked! How brutal are you all, that's mean they just wanted to be a parent!!!

They were a member of the...

Spoiler:

Town

Day 2 Starts!! It ends in (expired on 2020-12-29 13:00:00)

[Noraas Bakery]

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Well so Mini's replacement's first few posts were not that great but then they got better and I'm understanding what they say more.
Is today the day we do the 1v1 or are we still not doing the 1v1?
Atm I definitely think I prefer launching mom with their terrible read on me. Mary is looking better and better.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

tone was weird.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Wait are we talking about Noraa townslipping because I hear she fakes those as scum.

OML! YESSSSS! I can use my green approved hissy fit!!
Just you wait. This'll be epic!

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Noraa hissy fit be like:

Slippers



Check

Fire



Check

More Fire



Check

Mad toddler



Check

Angry bear



Check

Lightning



Check

Angry weather



Check

what am I missing?

TSUNAMI



Check

AND THERE IT IS. NORAA'S GREEN APPROVED HISSY FIT. FULL RAGE. ANGER. AND ALL

[Noraas Bakery]

Best part is I didn't even know it was a thing until you bumped our last game about it.

People kept bringing it up in my town games and it was pissing me off so bad. I literally died in like 3 town games bc some dumbass brought that up.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

facebones town

VOTE: mini

Ugh

not a fan of this day opening vote

VOTE: MiniMegabye

will be back in a bit, sorry for the inactivity

or this one

Eh, idk.
VOTE: Vanderscamp

Dislike 68.

VOTE: vanderscamp

rockhopper siding with momrangal is obviously very beneficial to him if he's scum but i actually don't think scum vote together so obviously like this
like it would make sense if it was to vote mini out cause that ends the game
but if it's on another townie then they'll just look sus for the next day when the game isn't over
i think this makes rock slightly more likely to be town

I disagree I think scum have no idea what they're doing this game

still not interested in elimming the Shady
I like mary44's posting and am down to yeet Mom. Noraa concurs.

I feel decent townbinning Vanderscamp also

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

not a fan of this day opening vote

Am I supposed to be happy in a mylo situation on day two when all of day one no information was gained despite all my effort to try and make some!

not sure how this is relevant to what I said

@cake:
The big problem with not lynching into the dichotomy today is that we need to make sure we lynch correctly today, and a 50/50 is better than the odds of lynching into the non-dichotomy pool.

Additionally, if Mom is scum and there's only one other scum in the game, we'll win if we lynch Mom today and mislynch someone else before his partner, but not vice versa.

fair point
we know its Mom or Mary and I find Mom far scummier

why do you think so?

just a vibe I have

-cake

[Noraas Bakery]

I am generally oblivious as a person tbh. My brain is a weird place to be

Mary's got game though. Where's our VC at?

I want a vc too.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

Mom, can you talk about why you had Mini as only 50% scum at a point in the game when it seemed very unlikely Mini was doing a reaction test, as well as why initially, when Mini called the hit, your first response was Mini was town doing a reaction test, not that you were he flagbearer?

reaction tests don't really happen in this setup imo but idk.

VOTE: Momrangal

Lets gooo!

I kinda hate this naked vote. I do think that bussing wouldn't look like this tho so that's a plus ig.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

I think mom isn't even trying at this point. This is just caught scum that knows it.

VOTE: Momrangal

[Noraas Bakery]

Thats E-1 btw.

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

page top

nope mine.

[Noraas Bakery]

darn it

sucks ta suck

[Noraas Bakery]

Rocky do u like rock candy or lollipops?

[Noraas Bakery]

-nornor

[Noraas Bakery]

what flavor?

[Noraas Bakery]

I like green apple the most

[Noraas Bakery]

sour is a plus

[Noraas Bakery]

sour strawberry sounds good :O

[Noraas Bakery]

blue raspberry is yummy :3

[Noraas Bakery]

sour apple though *drools*

mhm apple is yummy in my tummy

[Noraas Bakery]

Ok trolling session over! Imma kick jacko for not waking up at *looks at Australia time* 2 am!

[Noraas Bakery]

Lol thw fuck was I just derp hammered

O_O

[Noraas Bakery]

Gg town.
ty jacko for hosting!

[Noraas Bakery]

Goddammit nora

*looks around innocently*

[Noraas Bakery]

Goddammit nora

*looks around innocently*

[Noraas Bakery]

Goddammit nora

*looks around innocently*

[Noraas Bakery]

fuck my wifi smh

[Noraas Bakery]

Nora/hopper?

and Mini/Mary!

[Noraas Bakery]

Also goddammit flea

don't blame fae >:(((((

[Noraas Bakery]

You have impressive reads, Momrangal.

[Noraas Bakery]

Had a SR on both Rock and me.

[Noraas Bakery]

Ask me specifics. I'll answer.

[Noraas Bakery]

We didn't really talk. we talked like twice and it was about how we were gonna fake our reads.

[Noraas Bakery]

I'm not generally very on top of hydra communication regardless of alignment tho so .. yeah.

[Noraas Bakery]

Well, that's fair but next time don't lie about it

well I didn't. I was telling cake that he has a strong SR on flea and I would say I was convinced flea was town cuz meta.

that was our plan. not sure how ur supposed to do scum hydras any other way?

[Noraas Bakery]

I don't think anyone has topped the amount of hydrae I have

I only have 10 atm :O

[Noraas Bakery]

DAMNIT NORNOR. </3

im sorryyyyyyyyyyy

[Noraas Bakery]

T^T does flea not love me anymore

[Noraas Bakery]

[Noraas Bakery]

:3
how'd you alt snipe me Noraa

I once asked you to hydra this game with me.

[Noraas Bakery]

Gotta keep my promise and go spam ur disc with kitties and chickies. brb.