Micro 986 - The Coalition: PIFoMP [game over!]

[tris]

VOTE: norwegian

good night

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ok, actually VOTE: bugspray

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i'm gonna say this isn't a dream

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scooby and magic bear are same alignment

why tho

Bugspray is my only light townread so far because they seem to have thought behind their posts and an original mind without agenda. Otherwise i’ve been too busy trying to stop the shouty arrogant hydra that could be scum from driving the game based on faulty, secretive, and scummy motivation.

ehhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Wtf is wrong with you. I didn’t even see it begin until now.

artificial reaction. caught scum

Wow ok. It’s one of those games. I’m out for these next couple hours.

This feels like a pretty bad reaction.

In what way is it bad?

I no longer think this post is bad because you didn't actually leave the thread for the next couple hours.

I think your reactions this game have been extremely weird, though.
You're taking everything mystic bear is saying so seriously.
Your reaction to the pressure has been complaining about the "BS justification" and calling MB lock scum because they can't be this bad as town. Do you really believe that?
Even worse imo is that MB is obviously just shitposting when they're saying "we analyzed the names of all the players in the game and put together the 5 towniest" or whatever it was, but you're trying so hard to try and get them to explain the reasoning behind it when there clearly isn't any. It feels incredibly fake, unless you have literally never played a game of mafia before and somehow came to the conclusion that it's serious reasoning.

I'd vote you, but I think it's unlikely you're getting in the coalition and it doesn't make sense to have you or anyone Insta-majjed if the coalition fails.

HEAL: vanderscamp

Replace out one of those useless inactive noobs in the proposed townblock of Bear with Bugspray and i might gradually warm up to it.

rude. i was asleep dreaming level 1 dreams.

how is bugspray town when they havent even posted game related things yet but u still cant properly sort us?

Because you still haven't linked me that game.

don't avoid the question on how bugspray is town

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HEAL: tris
HEAL: bears

and, i guess i'll put my vote back here, not that it matters VOTE: norway

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thank you for doing my job for me while i was sleeping, bears

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don't avoid the question on how bugspray is town

You can't avoid an answer when you've already answered it earlier.

ok, i guess i just don't like that bugspray read. the bear is right that bugspray has basically done nothing really.

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tris locktown'd

welcome to the team!!!!!!~!!!!

you guys are lucky me and koba have a discord server to shitpost in otherwise this thread would be 60 pages by now.

wow, really? even after the last game?

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omg this is so exciting! we really are going to get the day 1 win aren't we!!!

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the bear is right that bugspray has basically done nothing really.

They are basing reads on what they've done now? Didn't stop them earlier.

what? who is they here? i have no idea what you're trying to say

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omg this is so exciting! we really are going to get the day 1 win aren't we!!!

Sounds really forced.

nope. i can understand why you'd think that, but it's really real. i am full of positive emotion right now

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oh my god. no. the bears did not really put me in a townblock until now i think. can't you see? why don't you understand that it was part shitposting at the start?!!

pedit: exactly

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the bear is right that bugspray has basically done nothing really.

They are basing reads on what they've done now? Didn't stop them earlier.

what? who is they here? i have no idea what you're trying to say

They've put inactive slots like you in the townblock since page 1. You had done basically nothing.
Therefore saying Bugspray has done nothing and townreading them is not a valid read is ?? from them.

also i'm not asking you about the bears here. what has bugspray done that is towny?

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oh my god. no. the bears did not really put me in a townblock until now i think. can't you see? why don't you understand that it was part shitposting at the start?!!

Because nothing has led me to believe to the contrary??

even the bears saying it themselves????????

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the facts that you're getting wrong are the ones about whether bear was shitposting

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ok both of you aretown

Star can you explain the reasoning behind this. Because if you happen to be correct then i want to know if it's not TMI.

Ok Im not 100% but i said that so i can read the game easily because only both of you made like 5 of 6 pages
I just dont have a read yet but I don't think the hydra would blatantly try to execute a non poster from post 8 as scum
And I wanna give you a second chance idk man just plz dont make the game unreadble

HEAL: stayc

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i'd still like an answer about bugspray

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wow i almost took the pagetop

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i'd still like an answer about bugspray

Their post about suspecting Scooby and Bear being same alignment resonated with me.

hmm ok

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What fucking game did you roll scum in Dkkoba or Pooky, whichever one said they were happy to roll town again because they rolled scum last time.

We rolled opposite alignments last time we played this :3

so whats our alignment and why

Still find you scummy.
Can you explain why Scooby was stated as obvtown?

what is the answer to this btw

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it seems everyone else got that impression

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Dostin your questions don't feel like legitimate questions. It's busywork and feels fake as hell.

huh, i had a thought like that too

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i don't know why i have that thought

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wow. it really is nice not to have to know who the scum are yet

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i will probably take them up on their offer

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well, it's just at this point, stayc and vanderscamp are above you in my reads. it depends a lot of the 5th person i suppose

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they're not very long pages. just read them

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Normally I'd keep pressing the point, but given the game, that's probably not the best use of time right now.

tris: are you still around?

sort of

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about to go home.

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what's changed is i'm not fully engaged atm

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ooooooooooh

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It's a no brainer that suggesting and pushing a solve based on nothing is a bad idea, and i think if they are town they would have realized that.

So then why would scum not notice that if it's a no-brainer? Surely you don't think all town players are smart and all scum players are dumb but that is exactly what it looks like you are saying here.

What’s the point of this question? Fake fake fake.

uh, i fail to see what's so wrong with the question. how about you answer it?

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farren, if you're here, i can talk to you now.

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although i am slightly tired

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Scooby: why mimicking Mystic Bear in 101?

i don't get why you're asking this question. why is this a thing that needs asking about? obviously you don't need to answer before scooby responds to you

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It's a no brainer that suggesting and pushing a solve based on nothing is a bad idea, and i think if they are town they would have realized that.

So then why would scum not notice that if it's a no-brainer? Surely you don't think all town players are smart and all scum players are dumb but that is exactly what it looks like you are saying here.

What’s the point of this question? Fake fake fake.

uh, i fail to see what's so wrong with the question. how about you answer it?

this is a question that i would like see you respond to with actual explanation rather than whatever you're doing.

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scooby might be good

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ok i sleep

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farren, if you're here, i can talk to you now.

1:55 am my time? Nope.

that what time it was for me too i told you i was tired.

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the only person i have hesitation about in the current bear townblock is scooby

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wait no, dostin is in there too

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HEAL: bugspray, Scooby Dooby Doo

Mystic Bear, bugspray, Scooby Dooby Doo, tris, StarToAYoungCulture
it is same as scooby dooby doo now

you don't seem to have said anything about bugspray. why did you specifically decide to follow this one?

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ok

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did you heal him because of my post?

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Hello, Farren. What is it that you would like to discuss with me today?

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so what does that have to do with your read on dostin?

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norway, you can use hurt tags btw

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u seem willing to die on the hill that bugspray is town and thats kinda hilarious

I'm not going to let up pushing my townreads just because you wrongly state them to be associated with me.

do you think that the pie chart is part of their towniness?

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(that was a response to Tris, not to Norwegian.)

PEdit> Wanted to see your reaction, as part of it.

oh ok, i understand now. to be clear. do you actually townread dostin?

u seem willing to die on the hill that bugspray is town and thats kinda hilarious

I'm not going to let up pushing my townreads just because you wrongly state them to be associated with me.

do you think that the pie chart is part of their towniness?

No. Who said anything about pie charts?

bugspray made a pie chart. i wasn't like responding to someone else talking about it.

which posts are the towniest ones from bugspray from when they were first around?

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i don't like how dostin focuses almost entirely on norwegian to the point that the only indication of any other read is the healing.

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it's very light dislike

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individually, all the posts seem fine, but altogether is lacking. i think is easy to say the stuff he says to norway

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ok, if you PROMISE

HEAL: Scooby Dooby

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i hope so

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i'd just prefer it if dostin isn't in the coalition

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check the vote count and you'll see

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you know what? Put a majority vote on us.

Vote our coalition through.
We're confident enough that ours is correct that it will end the game. If we're somehow wrong we just get autolimmed as soon as the coalition hammers

VOTE: mystic bear
try us

omg the balls
VOTE: Mystic Bear
is this coaliton your final coalition? if yes I will follow you

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i am inspired.

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HURT: all

HEAL: Farren
HEAL: mystic bear
HEAL: tris
HEAL: vanders
HEAL: scooby

The deal is on Mystic Bear.

HURT: all

HEAL: Farren
HEAL: Mystic Bear
HEAL: tris
HEAL: Vanders
HEAL: Scooby Dooby Doo

i don't think this was stated to be the final townblock yet

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ok both of you aretown

Who are these two?

You and mystic bear

Additionally, I think if both MB and Norwegian are actually town, there is a pretty good chance this was TMI.

what if you take 246 into account?

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@Norway, Before the coalition is formed, no one gets eliminated. Once the coalition is formed, if there is currently a majority on someone, they are eliminated. otherwise we keep playing until we get an elimination.

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what if you take 246 into account?

That post doesn't help me think STAYC is town, I'm just seeing a read with pretty much zero justification behind it.

what i'm seeing there is that STAYC was saying that because they wanted norwegian and bear to stop filling the thread with their dispute. if they were mafia coming from a TMI perspective, i would think that they would be making up an actual reason.

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ok both of you aretown

Star can you explain the reasoning behind this. Because if you happen to be correct then i want to know if it's not TMI.

Ok Im not 100% but i said that so i can read the game easily because only both of you made like 5 of 6 pages
I just dont have a read yet but I don't think the hydra would blatantly try to execute a non poster from post 8 as scum
And I wanna give you a second chance idk man just plz dont make the game unreadble

HEAL: stayc

I agree with that.

why did you agree with me here

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did you get townpings from that post or were you agreeing more generally.

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HURT: STAYC

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Eh, I kind of want to do Farren as the 5th, but i don't actually have a good reason to townread him

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: (

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still don't like dostin

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HEAL: trisHEAL: Farren

what do you like about farren?

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you're wrong of course, but my instincts say you're still town.

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Who is MWolf, and how was I sheeping them there?

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almost took ur pagetop

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you didn't explain your vanderscamp townread.

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OH NO. the Scooby questions will never be answered!

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Looking at JacksonVirgo. Comparing to Scooby.

They look like they're approaching things from a completely different perspective than Scooby did. Total shift in reads, attitude, everything. Like, you'd expect an attitude change from a different person in the seat, but they look like they're genuinely reading through and coming to conclusions rather than continuing to push Scooby's agenda. That's a good sign.

yeah, this is why i'm still townreading them.

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OH NO. the Scooby questions will never be answered!

I really don't want to have to go hunt down episodes of Scooby Doo. Does anyone know if repeating and mimicking people is something that (the TV character) Scooby does? If so, I can at least put *that* to rest.

oh right. i don't get why that was an issue. it just seems like a shitpost to me.

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its like they knew they were going to roll scum so they decided to do an alt so we could meta-case them.


anyway I would just like to say i'm super excited because I'm actually town this time so I will be accepting nothing less than a day 1 coalition victory.

I agree
HEAL: Mystic Bear
HEAL: tris
HEAL: StarToAYoungCulture

You HEALED Tris earlier.

So what? I can't change my mind?
Alsı I voted with them because they wanted to be a town leader. 1-2 reads doesnt really matter since we have to coalition

and you're not going to help out at all?

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wow. it really is nice not to have to know who the scum are yet

I can let go the fact that MWolf thinks they're the shit but this blatant sheeping is just simply bad.

i think i understand this post better now. you misinterpreted what i was saying here. i wasn't saying that i don't have to know who the scum are because the Bear can do it for me. i was saying because you don't have to know exactly who the scum are in order to form a good coalition. i enjoy the town hunting this setup encourages.

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In your case, it's a different story. Frankly, I'm hoping to win via coalition and make it completely unnecessary.

this is exactly what i'm talking about. in fact i think this might be town.

HEAL: Farren

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@Farren, on the topic of dostin, since you still townread him, what have you you thought of his responses to the concerns i brought up?

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oh, i don't know what to think of norway sheeping my coalition, i haven't been thinking much about norway for a while. or at least not in the way of making an effort to figure him out.

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yeah, you were new then. i don't remember it well. i was the first elimination.

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i basically remember you being a bit of a newb in some ways. no trace of that here. i don't think that game would be useful in trying to read you here

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oh hey woops.

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looks like i'll need to actually get a read on norway now

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Why am I always TMI'ing when you guys think my read is true?

are you responding to bear here? because bear was saying the dostin was tmi'ing not you. why did you say this?

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HEAL: Farren
HEAL: dostin
HEAL: JacksonVirgo
HEAL: Vanderscamp
HEAL: Mystic Bear

I know I said I have dostin as a maaybe scumlean but many have them in their coaliton pile and I have to coaliate with someone and heck, your reads are probably better than mine

If Dostin is scum then this post is really sus.

I actually saw Mystic's post in preview, if I was scum I wouldn't post that lol

so, why are you leaving it as this?? no one has him in their coalition now.

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Looking at JacksonVirgo. Comparing to Scooby.

They look like they're approaching things from a completely different perspective than Scooby did. Total shift in reads, attitude, everything. Like, you'd expect an attitude change from a different person in the seat, but they look like they're genuinely reading through and coming to conclusions rather than continuing to push Scooby's agenda. That's a good sign.

JacksonVirgo: you mentioned tris's sheeping as a reason to scumread her, and she's clearly your worst read. Why her over STAYC, given that STAYC's been more blatant about sheeping?

Generally tone is what separates the two, tris’s tone seems way too pockety for my liking.

who am i pocketing?

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As a quickie.

thank you for doing my job for me while i was sleeping, bears

I initially saw this as semi-pocketing Bears and also backup up their ass for not producing much content (and tris is pretty fluffy).

what i was taking about there is how I usually try to cause a big ruckus in RVS, but bear got the ball rolling already.

omg this is so exciting! we really are going to get the day 1 win aren't we!!!

I see this as overly confident, I get that people can be confident in their reads as I am with mine but this is just an exaggeration.

i wasn't super confident in reads there. but, i absorbed the optimism bear was displaying about getting the day 1 win. whatever the coalition ends up being in the end.

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tris: if you're looking to get a read on Norwegian, why were none of your questions aimed his way?

i'm catching up on other things first, and then i'll go and read norway's iso

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Dostin has had really townie posts that I've kinda mind-melded with. I think 560 doesn't come from scum naturally and is an actual genuine post I thinks. Their posts have been full of logic that I can follow if I didn't know specific playstyles

Onto posts that I didn't quote in my catchup (as I am searching their iso in case I've been reading them in a skewed way). 377 is another post that just bleeds genuinity, it feels like they're generally annoyed at NEE's logic. Also to clarify, just because I agree with some logic doesn't mean I follow the logic. 561 pings me that they're actually frustrated with how NEE is playing if they're Town which is a genuine thought process instead of Norwegian is scum because X, Y and Z so wagon them.

i don't see it at all. although, i do think that he probably did genuinely disagree with norway's logic, it's just he could easily disagree as scum as well.

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why was my response to ralph's fear me smiling and thinking in my head "you should be"
also that post means that ralph will continue to exist after i forget about him
the meme means he will continue to exist
that meme is a lie

why aren't you doing anything?

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HURT: jacksonvirgo
HEAL: norwee
HEAL: tris

really? what's up with virgo? i thought he came in in a townyish way

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Dostin your questions don't feel like legitimate questions. It's busywork and feels fake as hell.

huh, i had a thought like that too

You know, i gave Tris a re-read. And this actually makes me paranoid of SvS. As in, Tris is scum with Dostin and TMI’s here.

i think my tone here is town. if i wanted to scumread my partner here as scum, i would have more straightforwardly made a statement of agreement with you. i wouldn't have thought to fake the thought process where i'd had a bit of a scum feeling from him that i then ignored, but then when you echo'd that early thought it made me go huh, maybe there is something there. as scum i would have had a stronger sense of my partner being scummy.

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bugspray is probably not scum with dostin. otherwise they're just letting themself lose.

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Tris are you going to have an read on me yet.
We're in page 37.

sorry, i was being hypnotized

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sorry, i have to go do other things.

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ok, i have a little unexpected available time right now.

If memory serves, dostin wasn't in the proposed coalition at the time this deal talk was going on.

but, he was.

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Tris are you going to have an read on me yet.
We're in page 37.

sorry, i was being hypnotized

By what?

hypnosis, duh

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ok, i think your progression on me is kind of town. i'll be back later for a deeper look at your iso

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Looking at JacksonVirgo. Comparing to Scooby.

They look like they're approaching things from a completely different perspective than Scooby did. Total shift in reads, attitude, everything. Like, you'd expect an attitude change from a different person in the seat, but they look like they're genuinely reading through and coming to conclusions rather than continuing to push Scooby's agenda. That's a good sign.

JacksonVirgo: you mentioned tris's sheeping as a reason to scumread her, and she's clearly your worst read. Why her over STAYC, given that STAYC's been more blatant about sheeping?

Generally tone is what separates the two, tris’s tone seems way too pockety for my liking.

who am i pocketing?

Mystic mainly, and you've been semi-shading Norwe but the latter is probably a SR of yours so it's neglible

uh, have you read my most recent posts? i might townread norwee

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As a quickie.

thank you for doing my job for me while i was sleeping, bears

I initially saw this as semi-pocketing Bears and also backup up their ass for not producing much content (and tris is pretty fluffy).

what i was taking about there is how I usually try to cause a big ruckus in RVS, but bear got the ball rolling already.

omg this is so exciting! we really are going to get the day 1 win aren't we!!!

I see this as overly confident, I get that people can be confident in their reads as I am with mine but this is just an exaggeration.

i wasn't super confident in reads there. but, i absorbed the optimism bear was displaying about getting the day 1 win. whatever the coalition ends up being in the end.

So you were faking optimism on the last bit? Can I ask why you would do that instead of trying to get a coalition of your own that you are more confident in?

no no no. i was not faking optimism. i was feeling optimistic because the optimism of bear was rubbing off on me. i didn't have super confident reads at the moment, but i just had a blind optimism for the future. and i was trying to form my own coalition. i wasn't sheeping anyone. my townreads were my own. when i said we were going to win day 1, it wasn't because of any particular read.

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Dostin has had really townie posts that I've kinda mind-melded with. I think 560 doesn't come from scum naturally and is an actual genuine post I thinks. Their posts have been full of logic that I can follow if I didn't know specific playstyles

Onto posts that I didn't quote in my catchup (as I am searching their iso in case I've been reading them in a skewed way). 377 is another post that just bleeds genuinity, it feels like they're generally annoyed at NEE's logic. Also to clarify, just because I agree with some logic doesn't mean I follow the logic. 561 pings me that they're actually frustrated with how NEE is playing if they're Town which is a genuine thought process instead of Norwegian is scum because X, Y and Z so wagon them.

i don't see it at all. although, i do think that he probably did genuinely disagree with norway's logic, it's just he could easily disagree as scum as well.

Do you scum-read dostin? If so can you tell me why you do?

yes i do. and, i've talked about it before.

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I don't know why she thinks I am scum because she has never really explained that, for example.

but i did. as i just mentioned a moment ago

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no no no. i was not faking optimism. i was feeling optimistic because the optimism of bear was rubbing off on me. i didn't have super confident reads at the moment, but i just had a blind optimism for the future. and i was trying to form my own coalition. i wasn't sheeping anyone. my townreads were my own. when i said we were going to win day 1, it wasn't because of any particular read.

Alright, so what would be your solve right now?

me/you/vanderscamp/bear/one other that i'm not quite sure on currently have farren in that slot. although, i haven't thought about my vander read in a while, so i should check that. ugh, i meant to get to the full read of norwee, but i still haven't.

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HURT: farren

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@Vander, why the shifting around on STAYC

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HURT: farren

*raised eyebrow*

I just don't know about you. My town ping from before hasn't lingered

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i know i want myself virgo bear and vanders in coalition if i could just have my say.

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no, i don't really want to put in stayc either

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why is jackson virgo scum?

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the way they came in seemed town to me. and, scooby seemed town too

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HEAL: farren.

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i feel uncomfortable with any coalition that doesn't have at least two of me/virgo/bear.

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what should i do right now

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HURT: all

HEAL: Farren
HEAL: Vanderscamp
HEAL: Mystic Bear
HEAL: NorwegianboyEE
HEAL: tris

you probably know virgo better or something.

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a) Join my coalition, which meets your requirements (has Virgo and Bear). Virgo said they'd be willing to compromise on putting Bear into theirs. You and they make 4. bugspray said they'd be willing to hammer just for the sake of hammering - if they do and we win, awesome. If they do and we don't, we start figuring out what went wrong. If they don't, then that probably tells us something about bugspray and/or the proposed coalition.

b) Join Vanders' coalition. dostin probably won't sign on to a coalition with Vanders. I won't sign on to a coalition with STAYC. Bear probably won't sign on to a coalition with Virgo. Virgo probably won't sign on to a coalition with you. That leaves exactly five people - you/Vanders/bugspray/STAYC/Norwegian, and that's assuming I'm not forgetting about anyone else's no-way-in-hells, which I probably am.

c) Join dostin's coalition. Obviously has dostin's support; has Bear and Virgo in it so meets your criteria. Bear's and my objections are still present, but Virgo's big one isn't. Might be doable, though I'd argue against it.

d) Figure out something else. Bear's possible idea of them/me/norwegian/Vanders/(you or dostin) would qualify.

The one I'd recommend is obvious.

i meant more in terms of getting myself reengaged in the in game. it's a silly question that i should probably be answering for myself. but, i'm lazy and want someone to tell me what to do.

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HURT: all
HEAL: Farren
HEAL: Mystic Bear
HEAL: Vanderscamp
HEAL: JacksonVirgo
HEAL: NorwegianboyEE

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Replacing bugspray. Deadline is frozen and will be 3 days after a replacement is found.

oh wait forgot about this

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eh i guess it's good to have time to decide an elimination if necessary

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it is better to have 3 days than 1 day.

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hello everyone

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it seems you've found a mafia no thanks to me

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without thinking much i guess it's probably STAYC

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i'm town duh

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i voted for the coalition because i wanted to make sure we reached one

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of what?

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@Tris

So you townread everyone other than STAYC?

no. i just arrived here. probably should have done reading during the night but i didn't sorry

Why did you hammer so fast after scum!Jackson voted the coalition yesterday?

i voted for the coalition because i wanted to make sure we reached one

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yeah but i forgot

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what? i forgot that we were getting more time.

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STAYC is the one who lead the charge on having it coalesce around that coalition.

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i have to go

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why can't it be someone other than me, STAYC?

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i have to go

VOTE: tris
This entrance was terrible!

but, that was an exit

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yeah, i understand. give me a moment

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hey, sorry. well, i guess i'll start with this VOTE: STAYC. it's not like it can't be someone else, but mystic bear caught virgo in part because they looked like a pair to bear.

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Tris likely just scum giving up at this point. No fight left in them.

this is unfortunately so much like scum me, but the difference as town is that i can recover. i just feel so lazy right now about reading others when i think it's probably just STAYC.

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STAYC is the one who lead the charge on having it coalesce around that coalition.

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for some reason they didn't want to follow the lead mystic bear anymore

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hrrrmf.

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redados, what have you even done?

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fuck, i have no idea who is what. i feel like i'm supposed to townread norway or something. i guess it could be dostin. it would be nice if vander hadn't died.

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VOTE: redados

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Tris doesn't kill Vanderscamp here.

Can you talk me through why?

Eh i guess they could, but i'd like to consider other possibilities as well.

? i don't really get why you would even think that i wouldn't kill vander

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please don't elim me too quickly

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tris: talk to me about your engagement level. If you're Town, you know this game doesn't end with your death today. I'd think that'd be enough motivation to have done some work during N2 to be more ... attached? than 1378 implies. If you're scum, then you've got the world's biggest hole to dig out of; not putting in a great deal of work to delay the inevitable would be understandable.

I rarely do much reading over nights. even when i intend to.

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This game gets my Full attention now. The other game's over.

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NorwegianboyEE has a lot of posts

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I read Jackson's posts over again and from that I think it's really not likely that Norwegianboy is mafia. I also don't think it is Farren simply because he has been very towny on his own since the start of the game. Jackson talks a lot about tris the whole game and it is hard to tell if they are doing that as partners to separate themselves or if Jackson had another reason to stay on tris for the entire time they were in the game. But it is also weird when they started to bring up bugspray a few times at the end. I'm not really sure about one way or the other but right now I think the last scum has to be either tris or Redados so as along as we vote them both out I think we will win.

could you explain you sudden shift on norway more?

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redados, what have you even done?

pretty much nothing. just checking the game every couple of days.

VOTE: tris

and what are you gonna do when i flip town?

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People on the coalition that went thru but didnt vote for it are almost definitely town:

Vanderscamp/Me

People on the coalition that went thru and voted for it are neutral:

Norwee/Farren

People not on the coalition that went thru and voted for it are possible accomplices:

Tris/Stayc

I think if we follow their reads then we yeet Tris today. And if Tris is town then it'd be a 1v1 between me and Farren tommorow.

he doesn't really say anything about dostin slot in this post, although he was considering dostin in the coalition before that. but, i don't think the bear kill means much because i think that was an obvious kill for everyone.

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i want to get redados to do something

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i'm a bit frustrated that i'll never be able to get more understanding of dostin now

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redados, what have you even done?

pretty much nothing. just checking the game every couple of days.

VOTE: tris

Why are you doing nothing?

I keep forgetting I’m in a game

hello there

[tris]

what are you at with what you have read

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who's scum if not me, Redados?

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redados do you hate me

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oh, i have asperger's as well.

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VOTE: Redados

E-1

.

I like this

because you get elimmed and then i get elimmed and then, you think you win?

UNVOTE:

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tris: while I think I know what answer you'll give, I'm going to ask anyway: why the unvote?

i'm worried about...
"because you get elimmed and then i get elimmed and then, you think you win?"
except that we lose.
i'm afraid that redados just thinks the game is in the bag with my elimination and won't demonstrate towniness in the case that he's town. i also kind of feel like bugspray was town.

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also, i'm going to take some time to look at you soon.

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eh not really. just being cautious

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ahhhh, i'm sorry, i got overwhelmed by things recently. i should be getting to sleep right now, but i'll try to say some things right now since the deadline is approaching

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@Redados
If Tris!town where would you looking for scum today?

your POE solve of Farren was pretty convincing, but I haven't gone back and re-read. honestly doesn't seem worth the effort until we see if flipping tris doesn't end the game.

this post is slightly town. not that it's pro-town, but i feel like town is more likely to be this openly lazy.

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B3: It's true in the sense that anything Town can do, scum can fake. I can't think of anything I'd do that I wouldn't at least consider faking (or doing) as scum - unless I'm a PR, but that doesn't apply here.

trying to fake isn't the same thing as succeeding at faking. it is impossible to truly replicate the thoughts one would have as town.

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how did you come to return to that post and react to it?

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are you here and going to post or should i just go to sleep

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i feel like townreading gamma, but maybe that's because i've only ever seen town!gamma recently. (don't recall what i've seen of gamma from longer ago)

he hasn't diverged in any ways i've noticed

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good night

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how did you come to return to that post and react to it?

i would like to hear your answer here.

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Do you have a scumread

maybe

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ok, i was going to be here a little more but i have family. i will come back later tonight

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HURT: farren

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no, wait

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ok, i'll just say things.

i want to vote for farren because there's not been much that has actively seemed town about him. in direct contradiction of what i just said, farren has approached today in a productive way i think? so, i guess that wasn't true.

i actually just can't think right now.

i'm also seeing movements in norway that seem like they'd be a real thing.

@norway, what was it that changed about your read on dostin before gamma replaced?

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I think the game is pretty much solved so until we can all agree that Tris is town and Farren should get the rope today i'll be chilling.

This is an attempt at psychological manipulation. This is not a Town tactic.

i don't understand what you mean

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What are towncases on norway and redados atm

there was this for me

@Redados
If Tris!town where would you looking for scum today?

your POE solve of Farren was pretty convincing, but I haven't gone back and re-read. honestly doesn't seem worth the effort until we see if flipping tris doesn't end the game.

this post is slightly town. not that it's pro-town, but i feel like town is more likely to be this openly lazy.

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i'm also thinking that norway v farren isn't tvt

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It would be pretty shocking, yes.

why do you think norway wouldn't think you were scum if he was town.

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VOTE: FARREN.

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oh good

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there just seemed to be more things that indicated farren scum.

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not a great performance by me, but we did it! thank you for seeing that i was town

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you made me think you were town, so that helped

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Koba. Farren was putting Dostin in their coalition. Quit thinking that if a read is wrong it's scum motivated.

initially, but then he followed my concerns and removed him from his coalition.