Micro 994 | Brass and Shrapnel | Game Over!

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vote: ejjinami

I am against mass claiming. AMA.

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Innocent child most likely.

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Roll credits.

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Idk, personally too much wifom about the 1 scum or no kill for me to be happy with that plan. Mafia no kills and then we're just picking off our vigs because we assumed mafia had no reason to no kill.

All kills will be claimed though. If we go through with this mafia have no choice but to have 1 claim vig and the kill or else we have a bunch of confirmed townies. Unless they're assuming there won't be many vigs that aren't blank and they're ok with that amount getting confirmed. Then they're obvious targets for the kill because they're confirmed town and also confirmed not to be bombs.

disagree but let’s just see how it goes then. Discussing mafia actions that haven’t happened yet is not a good idea

ejj is town hehe
T bone is scum hehe

wild guess: if saudade is scum, it probably isn’t with T-bone

this looks kinda dumb as for bussing

Vig shot to head, what is your read on Saudade?

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Could it be? A mason buddy before 100 posts? Flea...will you be my mason buddy??

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I want you even more now.

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Sure. Why?

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vote: Kop

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Forget masons hydra with me the rest of this game.

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Vote: Not_Mafia]

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What page is Not_Mafia scum based?

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Because you wanted me to.

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Easily in the top 3 decisions I have made on this page.

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It's a fine thing to go on as much as anything on Day 1 is.

Vote: Kop

Again!

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Please laugh.

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I'm more interested in the players ignoring this scumslip honestly. It's the most significant piece of game action, and we have ~3 players with opinions on it, and just one asking about it?

If you're not voting Kop, why?

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That's Saudade, Not_Mafia, and nepenthe in particular I think? Can't recall finding any opinions from any of those players. MiniVirgo at least acknowledged, and at least Raya is actively engaging with the most significant development of the day.

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Well now we can remove Not-Mafia from that list kinda.

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Please laugh.

There's no emoji to show how much I am crying between you doing this and Not_Mafia confusing me with Jan.

I love you brass you just set yourself up and I spiked it.

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It's one of those things where frankly, we need to demand an opinion from everyone on.

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Dammit Brass. It's over.

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VOTE: Kop

Maybe I'm wrong on T-Bone

What was your thought that led to this change?

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I know you feel like this is about you atm (for obvious reasons)...but it actually hasn't been about you since Flea's initiation of the issue.

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I give you permission and won't claim you're confirmed scum if you do it.

There.

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Why what?

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N_M's rep reached me long ago, like the moment there's a clear E-1 that lolhammer is going down.

Like even I know that, and that N_M should be treated as an automatic frikken hammer...

and I'm pretty sure I'm like the newest player in here

Okay but why do you have a problem with your top scum read getting limmed? So what if Not_Mafia hammers at E-1?

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Procrastination at it's finest:

Spoiler: Kop Doctor Games

LN223 - no doc
MN2095 - no doc
Mic880 - no doc
Mic879 - no doc
LN221 - no doc
MN2038 - no doc
MN2024 - no doc
O735 - no doc
Mic809 - DOCTOR
Mini1990 - no doc
Mini1956 - Sort of doctor
O717 - DOCTOR
O716 - no doc
O712 - DOCTOR
O710 - no doc
MN1984 - no doc
O705 - no doc
O707 - no doc
O697 - no doc
O696 - no doc
O693 - no doc

I think that should be enough to say that Kop should not be assuming a doc role and it's no longer sampling bias

Yeah that probably proves that they slipped tbf, whether or not that's a scum-slip is debatable, although I'm leaning towards that it is.

- JV

I'm thinking Kop is just scum too. He hasn't done much unrelated to mechanics or the slip thing. His latest townreading me and Flea for pushing the slip and analyzing the reactions sounds like scum trying to sound indifferent.

Anyone voting Kop and putting them at lolhammer range with N_M in the game should be considered a scum-claim, I am not taking this lightly

Idk, I think it's best for more content since we have 4 days or so left. But the game has been pretty stagnant so maybe we need a flip.

I wasn't appealing, I just don't think your constant push on this coming from scum.

And as for the previous games that you have pulled up, like I said I don't exactly remember every single role that was in those games, but I'm going off the basic setups that doctor roles are common roles, not in every game I agree, but it is a common role.

I understand your desire to keep defending yourself from this, but as I said this isn't really about you anymore and it'd be great if you could offer up something, anything else.

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Why

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Not opposed

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Vote: Saudade

Choo choo

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My vote is to eliminate scum. At least Kop engages with the game. Saudade does nothing except complain about the game. Maybe that's apathetic town...but I think it might be scum trying to induce some apathy on the game.

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I could do either or at this point. I can still see a window where Kop is town and made an honest mistake. It's 50-50 for me. If we end the day with a lim on either player, I think that ends up being a productive day, especially if we flip scum.

Although quite suspicious that the Kop wagon was sitting there for days, and you only jump on when we shift it to Saudade.

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Maybe I let Raya occupy my blindspot in the name of "productivity". There's my pet 'this might be scum' read for the day. Will have to reconsider. I just wanted to put my thought out there.

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I mean, the other three votes shifted pretty quickly to Saudade, and thus, have a willingness to change votes quickly and could do so again. So that's a poor excuse.

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Vote: Kop

Let's go.

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The roundabout way we had to go to get here though.

I'm still sus on Saudade for the reasons we just tried to lim him instead. I'm going to voice that it is still weird that we couldn't get the votes for Kop until after Flea/brass/I moved off of Kop briefly, which I think puts scum points on Raya and MiniVirgo. Those three players I think move into the top of my pile as we currently stand, flip pending, if brass or Not_Mafia come on and hammer before someone jumps off AGAIN.

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I disagree and will continue to say as such. You've sat on the fence all day. So I'm pointing that out for the benefit of everyone else and their reads going forward.

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I can't think of a single read you've expressed other than Kop, which is crazy since you have the most posts. I have an idea about nearly every other player in this game. Nothing stands out about you. Nothing that you've done, nothing that you've said. If you want to change that, please by all means. You've been sort of but not really but kinda yeah locked into kop-scum and that's about it.

You may have other reads and thoughts about the game and that's great. But I don't know what they are, and I doubt anyone else does either. That's a problem, and why I am bringing it up as we close out Day 1. You are playing like Kop is minus the scumslip.

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In terms of that I don't know what Kop's reads or thoughts are either because all he can do is muster up a defense for the slip.

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That is probably not the mafia kill. Mafia ain't killing a slot with 8 posts and a slot with LHF potential.

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Yeah I think nepathe is a vig shot more than a mafia shot. Nepathe is a good target for smart big play. I could see a scenario where mafia reserve their shot for fear of bombs.

If it is a mafia shot, then that says something about the game state is very favorable to the current mafia team.

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Independent of NM's claim, on thinking it some more, I think this being the mafia shot is the most likely scenario. I was just baffled at the start of the day.

I think that means the current gamestate as of the end of Day 1 was favorable to scum. For my part, I was expressing interest in pursuing an elimination of Raya or Saudade, and then Flea and Brass were my town reads. I gotta say from my perspective, that makes this kill a very good idea for scum!Flea and/or scum!Brass. It kinda works for scum!Raya and scum!Mini too, but not as a team. It doesn't really work for scum!Saudade or scum!NM in my opinion (with the exception of NM trying a blank vig gambit). But, at this stage, I believe NM is telling the truth, because I would take the same shot as a Vig 100%. In fact I did.

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I wouldn't have but its relevant to the discussion at hand. And I can't sit on this for if we were to mass claim on a future day. 'oh by the way guys I also targeted Nep N1 but didn't say anything until now'.

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Yeah brass stop claiming your roles sheeeeesh

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I think I explained myself pretty well, what don't you understand?

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Although quite suspicious that the Kop wagon was sitting there for days, and you only jump on when we shift it to Saudade.

This makes no sense when it was very clear I was avoiding NME-1

I mean, the other three votes shifted pretty quickly to Saudade, and thus, have a willingness to change votes quickly and could do so again. So that's a poor excuse.

This doesn't make it a poor excuse. It was in my control to not put Kop at NME-1 but I'm not going to hold my vote when there's an empty wagon just because people

could

move back to the wagon and bring it to NME-1.

I'm going to voice that it is still weird that we couldn't get the votes for Kop until after Flea/brass/I moved off of Kop briefly

NME-1

I disagree and will continue to say as such. You've sat on the fence all day. So I'm pointing that out for the benefit of everyone else and their reads going forward.

I was very vocal about not wanting Kop hammered yet but wanting him to be the elimination

I can't think of a single read you've expressed other than Kop, which is crazy since you have the most posts. I have an idea about nearly every other player in this game. Nothing stands out about you. Nothing that you've done, nothing that you've said. If you want to change that, please by all means. You've been sort of but not really but kinda yeah locked into kop-scum and that's about it.

You may have other reads and thoughts about the game and that's great. But I don't know what they are, and I doubt anyone else does either. That's a problem, and why I am bringing it up as we close out Day 1. You are playing like Kop is minus the scumslip.

This is the only valid point and it's irrelevant to me holding off my Kop vote that you scumread me for.

I was very clear. You don't get to say it makes no sense when you literally quoted the entire explanation LOL

This post of Raya's is not scumhunting.

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I was really close to actually dropping a vote on Brass but Raya reminds me again why I am leaning scum on her. And I really wanted to reevaluate because the Nep kill doesn't make a lot of sense for scum!Raya when the status quo had a little momentum for her elimination.

HMMMM

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Raya doesnt look scum at all
game state would be dead without her what are you on about

What has Raya offered to the game state? Day 1 she offered just a single hedged stance on Kop. Day 2...she offered a vote on Brass?? The gamestate would be fine without her.

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And yes, I'm not arguing the point with you anymore. I am using the word HEDGED because that's how I see it. I don't care if you think you were more direct, I don't think you were. Waiting for everyone else to get off the wagon before you got one does NOT demonstrate any conviction.

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I generally subscribe to that philosophy, but what is that in reaction to?

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BrAsShErAlD

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Fleas switched to Saudade ON THIS VERY PAGE pls read the game BrAsS

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Okay really I'm teasing you ftr

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I'm gonna try out something spicy.

Vote: MiniVirgo

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Because they've sat in my blindspot and for a player with so many posts nothing stands out about them. Similar to the problem I had with you, but you corrected that for me

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Like I think honestly if GeorgeBailey went and deleted all of MiniVirgo's posts, no one would notice.

Which while is it an indictment on town!MV... it falls in line with what good scum play might look like, and it is very noticeable to me right now. How does this player have more posts than me and be such a ghost???

Funny thing is when I mentioned this at the end of day 1 (looking through their ISO after looking through Raya's ISO), I thought to myself 'okay, they are invisible, but look they are posting stances on more players than Raya is'. Hence my focus on Raya at the end of Day 1 plus the start of this day.

While I'm not satisfied that Raya has given much more in the way of reads and trying to sort players on Day 1, at least she now has a personality in my head canon, so that's a kind of progress.

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Get well soon.

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Without looking, can you summarize their reads or major stances taken this game?

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Sorry, that's an unfair expectation that has nothing to do with the game. Nevermind that.

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Because I think the gamestate right now benefits scum who don't stand out, so I want to shake it up.

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That was a scummy sequence of posts. Yikes.

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Without looking, can you summarize their reads or major stances taken this game?

Can you summarise DSausage's reads. Or Brass'
Actually do this, I want to see if you're trying to pull this out of your ass aha

- JV

Saudade has been very clear in wanting to eliminate Not_Mafia because he views him as negative utility. Yesterday he was on Nep scum and not much else tbh (except maybe starting his anti-NM fever)

Brass is currently voting you and generally following along with what I'm saying in regards to Raya, Saudade, and Flea this day phase. Yesterday he didn't do much except vote Kop.

EzChamp

Anyway, a series of scummy posts highlighted by this one I am responding to atm, ironically enough.

It might be confirmation bias, but I feel better about this vote after this page.

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Without looking, can you summarize their reads or major stances taken this game?

Can you summarise DSausage's reads. Or Brass'
Actually do this, I want to see if you're trying to pull this out of your ass aha

- JV

Saudade has been very clear in wanting to eliminate Not_Mafia because he views him as negative utility. Yesterday he was on Nep scum and not much else tbh (except maybe starting his anti-NM fever)

Brass is currently voting you and generally following along with what I'm saying in regards to Raya, Saudade, and Flea this day phase. Yesterday he didn't do much except vote Kop.

EzChamp

Anyway, a series of scummy posts highlighted by this one I am responding to atm, ironically enough.

It might be confirmation bias, but I feel better about this vote after this page.

Brass seems to be pocketing you hard here
- JV

Maybe I'm pocketing Brass. O.O

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Oh if we lim Brass I'd love MiniVirgo to hammer then.

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Basically I'd be willing to lim Brass if the trade off is we lim MiniVirgo if Brass is town. I'll vote Brass if MiniVirgo unvotes.

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Well if Brass is scum then they won't be.

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Fucking hell. Intent to NM hammer.

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Fucking hell. Intent to NM hammer.

Why are you cursing instead, I would have expected you to push me to hammer them at least a little bit.

- JV

I literally cannot force you to do something you don't want to do.

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But yes that's still my preference.

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Well yes, I indicated I'm willing to let it happen by bringing you to E-1

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Nothing at all? No counter wagons? No even a resilient fart in the wind?

Well 12 hours later, I'm not happy about this and treating it as a hammer
VOTE: brass even though we're after deadline. Didn't realise it was that soon.

MiniVirgo is the counterwagon, keep that in mind if Brass flips town.

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Honestly I think we have decent associations regardless of whether Brass flips scum or town. I think a scum flip strongly points to Saudade as a partner (and weakly points to Not_Mafia). Would give MiniVirgo some town points going in that direction. A town flip for Brass essentially does the opposite for me since we'll get Not_Mafia's flip. Would point to strong scum equity for MiniVirgo and make Raya/Flea the only viable partners I think.

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Holy hell the scum desperation to get a Lim. Feels like maybe Raya is the correct solution?

Actually, I think it has to be Not_Mafia at this point. Claiming both kills. Not_Mafia + Raya? idk

DECISIONS

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MiniVirgo is 100% scum. After reading that past coupled with their play this entire game I've never been more confident that that's a scumslot that coasted for the first few weeks only to try to take control at the 11th hour in LimLo

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Either we lim MiniVirgo, or MiniVirgo hammers Brass. This game cannot go on with that slot alive. They are screaming 'I AM SCUM" at the top of their lungs. That slot has produced NOTHING all game, and all of a sudden they feel empowered to direct LimLo? That's not town, ladies and gentlemen, that's scum. I'm willing to compromise on Brass if we force MiniVirgo to hammer. Otherwise I'm all in on them.

In the meantime

Vote: MiniVirgo

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I mean honestly, how does town!Raya look at #647 and not even pause? You go along with it without missing a beat. That slot has no right to be making #647 with the way they have played this game. And you're telling me you had no problem with it? When did they do anything like that this entire game?

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The fact that MiniVirgo is so confident that Brass is scum but is unwilling to risk a hammer says it all. Their plan hinges on a Brass scumflip. But they aren't willing to risk a hammer? The game is over if Brass is town....UNLESS MiniVirgo is scum. town!MiniVirgo who truly thinks Brass +Bone or NM is scum should be volunteering to hammer Brass and test his fakeclaim.

And if you're not his partner, and Brass is in your solve, than why do you have a problem with this? If you're right, then Brass is limmed and the game continues. if I'm right, then MiniVirgo is also limmed and more importantly

the game continues

. One of Brass/MiniVirgo is scum. The way this game played out, dueling wagons yesterday where we didn't get a Lim on time means that one of these two are scum by process of elimination.

If you're gonna respond to anything, it's that second paragraph.

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Because Brass is your partner? Or you're scum and you know Brass is telling the truth and you don't want to hammer?

Holy hell the scum desperation to get a Lim. Feels like maybe Raya is the correct solution?

Actually, I think it has to be Not_Mafia at this point. Claiming both kills. Not_Mafia + Raya? idk

DECISIONS

MiniVirgo is 100% scum. After reading that past coupled with their play this entire game I've never been more confident that that's a scumslot that coasted for the first few weeks only to try to take control at the 11th hour in LimLo

Then MiniVirgo confirmed it was him in #647. I am very stream of conscious when I post.

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*MiniVirgo confirmed it was them

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It's not nonsensical. This is a slot that coasted the entire game and is now trying to force a plan in LimLo. That's a scum slot.

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The fact that MiniVirgo is so confident that Brass is scum but is unwilling to risk a hammer says it all. Their plan hinges on a Brass scumflip. But they aren't willing to risk a hammer? The game is over if Brass is town....UNLESS MiniVirgo is scum. town!MiniVirgo who truly thinks Brass +Bone or NM is scum should be volunteering to hammer Brass and test his fakeclaim.

And if you're not his partner, and Brass is in your solve, than why do you have a problem with this? If you're right, then Brass is limmed and the game continues. if I'm right, then MiniVirgo is also limmed and more importantly

the game continues

. One of Brass/MiniVirgo is scum. The way this game played out, dueling wagons yesterday where we didn't get a Lim on time means that one of these two are scum by process of elimination.

If you're gonna respond to anything, it's that second paragraph.

My problem is that I think MiniVirgo is town and I don't want to risk MiniVirgo and Brass both getting eliminated if we're wrong about Brass scum.

If Brass is town the game is OVER unless the hammerer is scum. So this makes no sense. If Brass is town there is no solve in this game that doesn't include MiniVirgo. They cannot both be town.

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It's not nonsensical. This is a slot that coasted the entire game and is now trying to force a plan in LimLo. That's a scum slot.

It's not really forced. They're just saying we do the exact thing we failed last day. Just adding one other to the pool

Yes we'll we're in LimLo now and we can't afford to just 'go along with the plan' like we could have yesterday.

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If Brass is town NM and T-Bone

If Brass is town there is no solve that doesn't include MiniVirgo. They were the counterwagon to Brass. This is ridiculous. I know that you know 100% that I'm town.

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The fact that MiniVirgo is so confident that Brass is scum but is unwilling to risk a hammer says it all. Their plan hinges on a Brass scumflip. But they aren't willing to risk a hammer? The game is over if Brass is town....UNLESS MiniVirgo is scum. town!MiniVirgo who truly thinks Brass +Bone or NM is scum should be volunteering to hammer Brass and test his fakeclaim.

And if you're not his partner, and Brass is in your solve, than why do you have a problem with this? If you're right, then Brass is limmed and the game continues. if I'm right, then MiniVirgo is also limmed and more importantly

the game continues

. One of Brass/MiniVirgo is scum. The way this game played out, dueling wagons yesterday where we didn't get a Lim on time means that one of these two are scum by process of elimination.

If you're gonna respond to anything, it's that second paragraph.

My problem is that I think MiniVirgo is town and I don't want to risk MiniVirgo and Brass both getting eliminated if we're wrong about Brass scum.

If Brass is town the game is OVER unless the hammerer is scum. So this makes no sense. If Brass is town there is no solve in this game that doesn't include MiniVirgo. They cannot both be town.

Why can't I be scum with Raya or Saudade? Or Raya and Saudade be scum?

Because MiniVirgo by PoE with town!Brass is one of them. If Brass and Mini were both town, we would have gotten a Lim yesterday.

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I think you're the one revealing that you know everyone's alignment. Otherwise you'd be considering all possibilities.

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Okay so it's you and MiniVirgo and I gotta somehow convince Not_Mafia and Saudade. Great. Wonderful. At least I don't have to keep arguing with you.

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Cool.

So, Saudade, NM, the solve is MiniVirgo and Raya. What do I have to do to convince you?

I think I laid out a case why I think MiniVirgo is scum between Day 2 and 3, but I can repeat those points as needed. I did confront Raya for being scum late Day 1/Early Day 2, and I think Raya revealed that she knew Brass and MiniVirgo's alignment, and that's why she (and not MiniVirgo mind you) are so against this plan. MiniVirgo could have fought this, but Raya has really been the one against this from the get go. I think town!Raya would a) consider this and b) let MiniVirgo defend themselves against this plan. She has done the opposite of both those things. There is a desperation in her posts to not lose her partner I believe.

If not, let's get on with the missLim. I feel good about my solve, and it is what it is if you don't believe me.

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I don't like anyone who lollygagged on the brass E-1 yesterday

I mean, so did you. So...? If you had moved Brass to E-1 (before deadline), Flea would have hammered, and I would have. Truthfully I did not realize the deadline had passed because we went a few days without a vote count, and Brass wasn't my preferred Lim so I wasn't in a rush.

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Brass is probably my least preferred Lim, but I'll take it to get actual scum to hammer. If we can get to E-1 with Brass, Saudade, and Not_Mafia on the Brass wagon, then I'll feel comfortable that we have all the town on that wagon, and we can play the pseudo-deadline game among Raya, MiniVirgo, and I.

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I am so confident that if we got Brass to E-1 and Raya or Mini had to be the hammer, we would not get one. They would make excuses. Because I am very confident they both know with certainty that Brass is a Supersaint.

(4 posts in a row I am so sorry)

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That post wasn't addressed to you or an attempt to convince you of anything.

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I town read Brass. You don't. That's the KEY difference.

I wouldn't hammer my town read because I think he's town. Raya just said she

wouldn't

volunteer to

hammer her scumread

. She and MiniVirgo are NOT town.

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Raya just tried to make a false equivalency between her spot in the game and mine. She said she wouldn't hammer her scumread knowing that I would say I wouldn't hammer my townread. There was no mystery as to what my answer would be. Those two things aren't the same. That's scum manipulation.

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But then that means you're admitting you know your solve is incorrect (because you know Brass is town). Otherwise eliminating Brass' counterwagon from a town standpoint, makes the most sense. I don't want the rest of you to lose sight of this.

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If Brass is town, than your read on the entire game is wrong because it hinges on Brass being scum. Vise versa if Brass is scum then my entire read on the game is wrong. The only way to reconcile this in a world where we were both town, is to have MiniVirgo, the counterwagon to Brass, be the other elimination.

The nice thing about me being wrong is that the game continues. The awful thing about you being wrong is that the game ends in scum victory.

But I think Raya is counting on that second part.

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Explains his SR on me, he needs a partner for MV and he knows I won't agree with his plan anyway.

I think my progression since Day 1 explains these two reads. I didn't just suddenly come up with this today.

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But then that means you're admitting you know your solve is incorrect (because you know Brass is town). Otherwise eliminating Brass' counterwagon from a town standpoint, makes the most sense. I don't want the rest of you to lose sight of this.

Of course my solve

could

be incorrect. As NM said, insurance.

And the town's insurance should be town!Brass' counterwagon. But that's the one outcome you don't want.

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I don't, but I would imagine that if one is town, most likely the other is scum. That's the way the game has played out. Yeah if they are both town that is game over. But that's true of any two players.

The difference is these two slots are tied together in a way that no other two slots are.

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We're arguing over MiniVirgo and not say Saudade for a reason. You recognize why those two slots are different right?

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Literally the thing I've been arguing for lol

(okay I'm sorry to everyone else we just did a few pages)

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If I remove you, then if Brass is scum it's probably NM, and then MV+Saude if we're excluding you. They are probably both viable with either, but I think brass/saudade is less likely with how caviler saudade has been for this lim, while NM is suddenly considering not hammering brass.

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Someone sanity check me on this, supersaint and bomb are both possible and not just automatically counterclaims right?

[T-Bone]

Okay thanks. Was cycling through claims in my head while waiting for coffee at Dunkin this morning cause I had a bunch of errands to run.

[T-Bone]

I've represented you very accurately I feel.

[T-Bone]

Wow okay. Eagerly awaiting the scum flip.

[T-Bone]

VINDIFUCKINGCATION RIGHT THERE

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Shot at Saudade.

Pretty sure NM is town after that claim that got MiniVirgo supersainted.

And T-Bone was pushing for Minivirgo for a while. Could have been bussing though.

DON'T YOU EVEN DARE

We're not doing this. That was my read I will take ONE MILLION PERCENT credit for it. They were scummy as fuck and I GOTTEM

Been sitting on this celebration for 2 days don't rain on my parade. Let me have my moment.

[T-Bone]

I'd probably say Saudade ->Raya->NM. But I'd rather force scum into 3p. NM makes a good point that I'd definitely lean Raya in a 3p with her and NM.

But I don't care what any of you say I'm gonna to act like confirmed town cause I deserve this one.

[T-Bone]

I actually tried to shoot Saudade too (but I'm blank)

[T-Bone]

I would like to know why MiniVirgo did it when I was the only one really calling for it and absent from the thread at the time of the hammer. Guess we'll find out post game.

[T-Bone]

The play is to no lim tbh

[T-Bone]

But we don't need to rush it. Someone will be confirmed town through the death tomorrow.

[T-Bone]

Dammit I agree am I being pocketed now?

[T-Bone]

Ready to no-elim when ready.

[T-Bone]

Of course. That was a prod dodge more than anything else. As much as I think I have the correct read, I'm not arrogant enough to take it when the correct play is to force a scum kill.

[T-Bone]

Vote: No Elim

kk

[T-Bone]

I feel gross giving either you the win if you were the ones refusing to kill tbh

Just putting that out there. But let's end it, nothing will change.

Vote: Saudade

[T-Bone]

I cast a vote so what's done is done.

[T-Bone]

I wish it was me. That was just a heroic scumread on my part.

[T-Bone]

Okay why did MinVirgo hammer? While I appreciate being right they could have gotten away with not doing it I think lol