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Post #2007 (isolation #200) » Fri May 14, 2021 12:58 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
(that argument would be bad bc hectic wouldnt die /n1/ when he could keep townreading and helping me kill off bigger threats like pooky since his reads would have to be inverse if i was scum)
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Post #2008 (isolation #201) » Fri May 14, 2021 12:59 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
like there you go, that's my case on pooky, if you wanna say "b-but ydrasse youre scummy" okay cool go for it but youre wrong and ive just laid out the reasons why for you
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Post #2024 (isolation #207) » Fri May 14, 2021 1:18 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
and i know you didn't mean it maliciously either pooky but it just felt, idk, in the moment. i don't hold any ill will towards you but i don't wanna bring bad vibes into the thread.
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Post #2051 (isolation #210) » Sat May 15, 2021 7:02 am
Postby Ydrasse »
it just feels like it's the same sort of reaction wherein he's basically shunted into a 1v1 with someone and he has the same sort of like... exaggerated emotional cues (idk if that matches exactly to dnc but in his initial reactions to me you can see he's playing it up with his punctuation and in general the way he's typing? i think this one's obvious though) and in general it's just that he tipped the scales over to the tris elim as well
also, the fact that neither of us have been quickhammered when i think it might be awkward to coordinate a hammer but possible if the team is like, andres+you/flea confirms that it's pooky to me so ya
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Post #2066 (isolation #216) » Sun May 16, 2021 11:01 am
Postby Ydrasse »
and again you ignore the other player in this game and focus on one pairing
/shrug w/e if you dont wanna put in the work neither did i this game but when you say you wanna talk to me and then i answer and you go "nah i just dont see this one instance" while ignoring the other youre either scum trying to stay on the good side of that other person or youre just lazy town
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Post #2067 (isolation #217) » Sun May 16, 2021 11:02 am
Postby Ydrasse »
like youve literally sat here all game going "idk it doesnt feel like ydrasse... feels a bit more like pooky..." and in the light of some things that i cant mention that have happened recently i would very much think you would have learned your lesson when you catch yourself saying "oh this person is playing like scum" lmfao
like there's no self awareness there if you're actually town
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Post #2069 (isolation #219) » Sun May 16, 2021 11:04 am
Postby Ydrasse »
like genuinely
i dont get it how you think pooky is acting like scum, you havent expressed ANY sort of scumread on me all game, and then you go "yeah sorry if its wrong lol!" like what in the world is that progression
you dont trust yourself to read either me or pooky but you sure were fine expressing your reads like... all game there
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Post #2071 (isolation #221) » Sun May 16, 2021 11:05 am
Postby Ydrasse »
like WHAT in the world is this logic from a town infinity
if youre scum infinity cool youre saying the right things but if youre town im so fucking confused over why you think this is the move and youre washing your hands of it like you did
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Post #2074 (isolation #222) » Sun May 16, 2021 11:09 am
Postby Ydrasse »
thanks, at least i wont get hammered if the team is actually pooky/andres
like i feel the crux of why i moved my vote was off of sha's meta-case which is like
i think we both can nod when i say trusting meta is not the best indicator for someone being town
p-edit: can you walk me through why it isn't pooky/flea again? or why it isn't pooky andres? the only team out of those three (assuming you are town) that i will concede as not a thing is andres/flea, but at this point scum is confirmed in me/pooky just from the ability to hammer being a thing over the past few days so it's moot anyways
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Post #2078 (isolation #225) » Sun May 16, 2021 11:15 am
Postby Ydrasse »
??? what else am i supposed to do as town then
i laid out why it's pooky
i'm 1v1ing him
if youre town youre voting incorrectly and that sets up for a hammer to come down on me from whoever his partner is and im going to be pissy over that because i feel like bashing my head into a wall everytime i look at pooky's posts knowing that hes scum
if youre scum youre just trying to appeal to andres/tip the scales over to me
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Post #2079 (isolation #226) » Sun May 16, 2021 11:15 am
Postby Ydrasse »
like i literally dont have words for how fake pooky is and how is outrage and all his !?!??!?!??!ing is literally just fake. i dont. like i dont know how else to tell someone "wow this looks horrible and put on for show because he has to 1 up me"
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Post #2083 (isolation #228) » Sun May 16, 2021 11:37 am
Postby Ydrasse »
probably because this is a game where flea and i ahve been (relatively) not at odds, which is an oddity in that i often end up tunneling flea, and fae thinks that the best option to win lategame (because they have to survive /after/ this too) is to keep me alive in the event pooky dies and hope that i dont hammer fae tomorrow since i havent expressed interest in fae as a scumread beyond questioning their reads on you earlier
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Post #2091 (isolation #231) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:14 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
pooky i know youre not insane
im not actively scumreading flea, i think there are some ? moments in flea's iso and i called those out previously, and i posited that if flea is scum fae's activity time on mafiascum would make it hard in theory to conduct any sort of quickhammer.
youre conflating my read on flea into something that it isn't, point blank.
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Post #2092 (isolation #232) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:16 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
like yes, i theorized on a team that exists where flea is scum. i don't think that is particularly shading so much as /not ruling it out/. i didn't say this was the most likely world. it's just a possible one.
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Post #2093 (isolation #233) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:19 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
also saying "but flea is voting me" kinda proves that you didn't really read the why i suggested you/flea could be a thing and just jumped on something that you thought could make me look bad.
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Post #2096 (isolation #234) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:42 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
i dont think that infinity unvotes there if she's scum tbh, could be wrong
i dont think flea commits to voting you with me unless fae's going for the long con scumgame which i think is a very perilous game to play when the alternative is to vote me when everyone else seems okay with it
i've reverted back to thinking that andre is potentially your partner because of these things, that and also him saying "infinity trust me go ahead and revote" gave me major red flag vibes because hello? who is going to do that in a game and what do you think that's going to accomplish and this also ties back into infinity not being scum /because/ infinity didn't indulge this and i think that she would given that andres had already suggested he wanted to vote me -- it's reasonable that scum!infinity takes that gamble to see if andres just ends it. this becomes more likely to me because of the lack of time we have left in the game.
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Post #2097 (isolation #235) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:43 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
and, in this case, two people have voted me and andres was at one point positioned to be the deciding vote -- why do i even dare to antagonize him with this read if i'm scum? like if i'm scum and i know he's town i'm not gonna piss him off by going "aha what if he's scum though"
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Post #2100 (isolation #236) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:45 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
arguably too i should do my due diligence and solidify who i think your partner is but with however many hours left in this dayphase and the results being either a gameover or me being the nk after you flip, and the fact i need to sleep for work soon, this is about the best i can give right now, gun to head andres > infinity > flea as pooky's partner
In post 2097, Ydrasse wrote:and, in this case, two people have voted me and andres was at one point positioned to be the deciding vote -- why do i even dare to antagonize him with this read if i'm scum? like if i'm scum and i know he's town i'm not gonna piss him off by going "aha what if he's scum though"
you are very good at getting people to townread you by displaying paranoia of them.
am i? what's your metric for this exactly and how is it "paranoia" when i'm flat out saying "i think andres is the most likely partner." that isn't me hemming and hawing about a scumread, it's me saying what i think is possible.
if anything my 'paranoia' is best applied to my theory about flea,
who is already townreading me
, so why would i bother when i have other things on my plate?
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Post #2106 (isolation #240) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:48 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
you're being obtuse. you have read this thread, have saw andres say that he was leaning towards voting me, and you have seen what infinity has said regarding her reads/reasons for voting me.
just because her vote is not on me /now/ doesn't mean it didn't exist previously. just because andres has not voted me yet does not mean he hasn't expressed an interest in it. these are things you can reference for yourself, so stop trying to frame it as everyone is against you when it is patently not the case.
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Post #2108 (isolation #241) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:50 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
who exactly am i paranoid of right now pooky? do you see me going "oh but what if" as anything beyond a theoretical? do you see me going "oh guys i'm unsure about this or that"
no, you don't; like, i literally as of a few posts ago have ruled down to my most likely suspect your partner. i've ruled out worlds which i think are unreasonable and am not dwelling on them -- i've suggested they could exist, sure, but i am not dwelling on them. there is a difference.
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Post #2112 (isolation #243) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:52 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
In post 2096, Ydrasse wrote:i dont think that infinity unvotes there if she's scum tbh, could be wrong
i dont think flea commits to voting you with me unless fae's going for the long con scumgame which i think is a very perilous game to play when the alternative is to vote me when everyone else seems okay with it
i've reverted back to thinking that andre is potentially your partner because of these things, that and also him saying "infinity trust me go ahead and revote" gave me major red flag vibes because hello? who is going to do that in a game and what do you think that's going to accomplish and this also ties back into infinity not being scum /because/ infinity didn't indulge this and i think that she would given that andres had already suggested he wanted to vote me -- it's reasonable that scum!infinity takes that gamble to see if andres just ends it. this becomes more likely to me because of the lack of time we have left in the game.
i think this post is the best summary of who i think is scum, lmao.
like, i have given reasons why i am currently ruling out the first two, and have circled back to andres.
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Post #2114 (isolation #244) » Sun May 16, 2021 4:54 pm
Postby Ydrasse »
like, you quite literally waited to see which one of me/andres was going to fight you, knowing that it was going to happen, and you were trying to hedge on us being t/t before i doubled down, and then you spiraled into your !?!??!-laden posting, and now here we are where you're trying to jump on me for whatever you can knowing that you have to win over a townie.
(i'm going to just presume at this point flea isn't a bad player and is actually town and not bussing scum or w/e)
In post 2119, Ydrasse wrote:pooky to be frank i am not married hardcore to the belief that andres is locked in scum like you are so i'm not treating it like an inevitability
if you wanna call it a slip sure go wild
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I never said andres is locked in scum,
you are the one who said he is my scumpartner and you ruled out flea/infinity
now you are saying i was waiting for andres/you to fight me so I could 1v1 one of you.
this is a slip because if you believed your previous thing you wouldn't believe your second thing.
pooky i know you are not dumb and we both know i'm not saying you said that -- i was saying
i don't think he's locked in scum
and there is a possibility where andres isn't your partner and the world where he isn't is that case
p-edit: okay so what would have happened if i hadn't voted you then, would you have just vibed, let me skirt on by? where's the initiative to actually catch me if i'm scum
In post 2127, Ydrasse wrote:and if you had your pick you would have 1v1'd andres knowing that me + flea would have voted him over you more likely than not after you fought
This doesn't make any sense.
it does and everyone else reading it will get that
my words still make sense even if you say they don't
Sorry, I just don't have any scumreads and you feel the least town of the 5. This is a coinflip for me
this is basically where I'm at. figuring out the least town of the 5. I do like Andres' reach out to me recently. But I still think the others are townier :/
In post 1491, SirCakez wrote:but i've pretty much only pushed Pooky and Andres today?
