Reserved.In post 1, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:reserved
VOTE: thana
Are you voting for someone that you think is Town?
I am not. Why do you ask?In post 37, thana wrote:are you?In post 36, Nathann wrote:Are you voting for someone that you think is Town?
I don't think I can read your mind.In post 39, T3 wrote:You tell me.
Your ISO up to that point was pretending to have a post restriction, saying you don't think T3 is Mafia, then admitting you didn't have a post restriction. Your RVS vote did make me chuckle, but I don't have anything alignment-wise on you so far. Do you think I should have?In post 44, thana wrote:wondered if you had thoughts on me
I was not expecting anything, I don't go into pushes with set expectations. Maybe your response wouldn't have been AI, maybe I would've seen something that would've swung me one way or another, it's impossible to know now.In post 84, Menalque wrote:what were you expecting? like, if i'd answered "no, I'm obviously not scum hiding behind unsortable memes" (not to mention I haven't even been particularly meme-y this game) how would that have been useful?In post 61, Nathann wrote:I'm getting positive feelings from VFP, but right now I can't tell if I think they're genuinely being Townie, or if I'm just enjoying them not adding to the pointless banter.
Menalque, no response to me?
Semantics, but my point is still the same. I was not expecting anything specific when I voted you. Why do you choose to focus on my word-choice?In post 108, Menalque wrote:I mean I wouldn't really characterise your vote as a push, so
A post-restriction is mechanically-bastard (which is marked as yes). But non-random role assignment is procedurally bastard. I'm saying I don't but that there exists a "repeat everything thrice" role that T3 just so happened to rand. (And we know Pooky couldn't have given him that role non-randomly.)In post 117, Menalque wrote:what's the difference between dynamic and mechanic
Why does that immediately make you think Neighbours / PTs? Couldn't he as easily have seen someone talking about post restrictions and decide to run with it?In post 116, bugspray wrote:these two things (t3's bullshit and me asking you if you have a post restriction on page1) are completely unrelated. my guess is that the two of you share a PTIn post 112, thana wrote:i meant that there were prior references to post restrictions within this game before t3 fully dove into the i have a post restriction bit, making it less believableIn post 107, Menalque wrote:where? I just checked the sign ups and all the setup information provided was "yes" when asked about bastardry
So, rather than T3 seeing thana/you talk about post restrictions and deciding to fake one on its own, you're thinking it's more likely that... thana and T3 share a PT, thana pretended to have a post restriction in the main thread, then talked about it in the hood, and that is what made T3 pretend to have a post restriction? That doesn't sound more plausible to me, but this whole discussion feels like nonsense to me anyway so what do I know.In post 126, bugspray wrote:people don't just do stuff for no reason
I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you.In post 129, T3 wrote:Okay fine.
Rereading, I don't think this was acknowledged. I found it weird that you decided to focus on my word choice there.In post 119, Nathann wrote:Semantics, but my point is still the same. I was not expecting anything specific when I voted you. Why do you choose to focus on my word-choice?In post 108, Menalque wrote:I mean I wouldn't really characterise your vote as a push, so
Maybe it's me projecting, but I often find myself unable to not respond to people's votes on me, so I assume the same of others. I think saying that my vote wasn't meant to accomplish anything isn't right - sure, I doubt it would've ended with a majority on you, but seeing how people respond to votes on them can be telling. I disliked you focusing on my wording and brushing it off because "it didn't feel like a push to you" since that felt like sidestepping the point. I figured there might be worth in seeing your response to 106 rather than the original vote, yet you still decided to basically ignore me.In post 169, Menalque wrote:My point is: you seem to think I should have responded to you, but idk why you think I would? Like it’s not like you were really trying to get me limmed (hence the word push being relevant) you were just saying you disliked my flippancy around the early game which is something I present in ~most~ of my games, and additionally you weren’t asking me anything you were just.. saying you disliked my post lolIn post 149, Nathann wrote:Rereading, I don't think this was acknowledged. I found it weird that you decided to focus on my word choice there.
You yourself are saying your vote wasn’t exactly meant to accomplish anything other than express a dislike of my answer, and I didn’t particularly feel like litigating that
In post 183, Momrangal wrote:I like mena!town and im absolutely hating Nathanns posture around him.
All his posts so far is very cagey, ridgid, etc...
I don't think you're anywhere close to seeing into my mind.In post 186, Momrangal wrote:Nathann is the stronger read here because I can literally see in his mind.
Defend momrangal, the person who isnt here to get on their good side possibly.
Complain about T3s fake restriction and how he hasnt contributed anything to tvis game (the second day it has existed on a holiday weekend) while not actually contributing anything himself
And there are no stances. There are questions that seem to go places but they are ultimately empty and shallow
Why do you find that to be scum-indicative? BurgerParty's votes and his reasoning for them felt fine to me.In post 187, Momrangal wrote:I am decidedly not a fan of burger defending one forming wagon, supporting the other growing wagon and doing literally nothing else.
What about it was weird? And I don't understand where you're getting the idea that I didn't care about the answers. I specifically poked him multiple times to try to get him to contribute normally.In post 216, thana wrote:like i don't really disagree with momrangal about nathann's questions (question to t3 was weird, didn't necessarily seem like he cared about the answers until after her post)
but ...
Sure. If his answer was "RVS" then it probably would've been a conversation I would've dropped as it wouldn't have been useful. But an answer of "yes" opens two new ones - why is he Townreading bugspray, and whether there's a reason he's voting someone he's Townreading.In post 220, thana wrote:felt like the possible answers were either ‘yes’ or ‘rvs’In post 218, Nathann wrote:What about it was weird? And I don't understand where you're getting the idea that I didn't care about the answers. I specifically poked him multiple times to try to get him to contribute normally.In post 216, thana wrote:like i don't really disagree with momrangal about nathann's questions (question to t3 was weird, didn't necessarily seem like he cared about the answers until after her post)
but ...
But...?
maybe not as much that you didn’t care before as much as like, hm, made a show out of caring after? like reiterated my reiteration to bugspray of a question you asked?
Agreed, though I thought the "but" i related to what you wrote about me above it. Do you think bugspray is scum for it?In post 221, thana wrote:but the neighbour thing was an odd assumption/far from how i was thinking about the setupIn post 218, Nathann wrote:But...?
I'm probably sounding like a broken record at this point, but I dislike this "unsureness" about me. I imagine being unsure means you'd want to try to sort me, yet for the god-knows-which time, I feel like I'm being ignored by you.In post 262, Menalque wrote:I actually don't disagree on burger but I'm still ~unsure~ on Nathann and thana atp
Is this something you're able to talk about?In post 268, Dwlee99 wrote:Also I'm just gonna put out there that my vfp/bugs townreads are motivated by out-of-thread things
What's up?
Has any one of you thought about having a conversation with me?
It was basically nothing but setup speculation, based on practically no information. I cannot get anything alignment indicative out of it, and it doesn't help us solve the setup because, again, page ten, no actual information.In post 297, thana wrote:what was boring about page 10?In post 296, Nathann wrote:Has any one of you thought about having a conversation with me?
What does this even mean? How do you arrive at me being scum because I'm "too Towny"?
I try to determine informedness the way I've been trying to the whole game - reading into people's posts, their votes, motivations and mindsets behind those, trajectories, etc. At least while we do not have flips. The fact that I've largely been getting ignored is annoying.In post 303, thana wrote:like if you think an encryptor is unlikely, what does us talking about one mean to youIn post 302, thana wrote:how do you generally try to determine if someone is informed
Assuming I am correct about the Encryptor, an argument could be made:In post 306, thana wrote:?? why would it mean town points if you find the encryptor to be unlikely?
It's pointless to me. Did you get anything about bugspray's alignment out of the discussion on page ten?In post 306, thana wrote:but sure, pointless discussion if you'd like, they all are really
I didn't even think of Encryptors possibly being Town aligned, so that even further kills any trace of "the talk about Encryptors is maybe, vaguely, if you squint, +town".In post 308, thana wrote:the encryptor wouldn't have to be scum power and also could be like 'enables talk in general' as opposed to 'daytalk' to solve your all pts have daytalk objection, though the other issues still stand
Hey, do you instead want to talk about why you voted me in 287 after 3 hours of silence, only to jump off my wagon as soon as someone else joined it?In post 310, bugspray wrote:hey is there anyone out there with a bastard role that wants to come out and say my role is bastard?
You can take 30 seconds to backtrack, skim the page or two prior to your vote, and try to figure out what you were thinking.In post 314, bugspray wrote:read my signatureIn post 313, Nathann wrote:Hey, do you instead want to talk about why you voted me in 287 after 3 hours of silence, only to jump off my wagon as soon as someone else joined it?
I figured that's what you were trying to say, I thought it was included in my comment, but it might've come out confusing. My next question would've been "who do you do want to vote, then?", but maybe pause on that until the hood stuff is sorted out.In post 384, thana wrote:but rather helping me with the task of communicating what i am trying to communicate
I thought I saw something earlier, but after the hoods got partly claimed, I realize I might have been wrong. In any case, I feel like I saw a few posts in the earlier game from Dwlee that made me think they're more likely Town than not. Especially considering the bar is kind of low right now.
> Posts nothing but useless shit and setup speculation for basically the whole gameIn post 438, bugspray wrote:town has not gotten any useful information in about 4 days
this is a gamestate scum likes and will support
Sorry, this was referring to 450.In post 530, Nathann wrote:How is that a bad look for Menalque? Rather, what do you expect to happen there if he was Town? No game-related movements also imply scum is happy with that vote if you're Town, no?
The bolded was meant to say "but I wouldn't be surprised if I'm wrong and they're lurking scum", typed it in a hurry before having to leave.In post 536, Nathann wrote:T3 and BurgerParty are maybe Town for how people are kind of circling around them (also kind of reverse-PoE at this point),but I wouldn't be wrong if they're lurking scum
Of course you are. Do you have any arguments for why I'm scum that aren't "early posting is cagey"? Or any response to my reply to that?In post 580, Momrangal wrote:I'm sitting in the hospital but I'm looking at nathann
Uh. Anyway...In post 606, Menalque wrote:The mafia are always the uninformed minority bud
I thought that was a general question not aimed at me, considering neither of the things you said after it apply to me - I was giving you a pass for the duration of your V/LA only, I voted you afterward you were back. And I voted for Dwlee.In post 650, Momrangal wrote:Yes?In post 649, Nathann wrote:Of course you are. Do you have any arguments for why I'm scum that aren't "early posting is cagey"? Or any response to my reply to that?
Any reason you avoided the question on who exactly arw the people giving me a pass?
I'm sorry, what are you talking about? Am I reading wrong, or are you accusing me of both suspecting youIn post 681, Momrangal wrote:Given the fact that it seems to be the biggest reason for your scum read on me in a game that's so low jn activity that it's easy to forget about. (Sorry pooky) I would hope that there was actual solid reasoning about this.In post 651, Nathann wrote:Is there a reason you're asking me that?
Your position around dweelee (or really any other wagon) is like ???
From my perspective, you're reallt the only one who's given me any kind of pass or defense due to activity or posting pattern.
Early game with a defense of what pretty much was an rvs post, and my lack of activity during the week of the 4th literally no body else had any kind of opinion of my inactivity so it kinda sounds like you are looking for any reason to make a push.
Also given that this is your primary reason, i find it ridiculous that you can't even remember your own supporting evidence
To add to the above, how many scum do you think there are in this game? Considering they're off E-1, VOTE: VFPIn post 649, Nathann wrote:VFP, what are your current thoughts / reads? Or rather, I find it weird you focused on Dwlee's relations with bugspray when calling them scum, but basically ignored them when reading Menalque.
There is no thana Hood. She flipped Mafia Traitor, she wasn't a Neighbour.In post 742, bugspray wrote:what's up with the thana hood who was in that
There was a kill last Night...?In post 746, T3 wrote:I'm not sure why the mafia's kill didn't go through. I was expecting a 4 player today.
How do we know this again?In post 748, T3 wrote:We know bugspray is groupscum and Momrangal is likely a trIaitor.
Are you playing dense on purpose? My case on you wasn't OMGUS, it was calling out your bullshit read on me. There's a difference there, and if you're trying to tell me that calling out your "hey, calling me out for demanding content from T3 on a holiday even though he was clearly posting in thread" and the other points you raised is just "OMGUS", you're purposefully twisting it.In post 696, Momrangal wrote:Also literally activityIn post 685, Nathann wrote:and due to you not posting anything of notice / interacting with the game / with me once you were out of V/LA.