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Post #176 (isolation #31) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:54 am
Postby OkaPoka »
and to be honest, i doubt scum knows how to play this setup. i agree at least one scum must have bussed t3, but even ignoring the fact that t3 couldnt shoot. if you dont bus scum here you pretty much win 90% as scum so yeah. now the thing is i know this so im not scum because ive been on t3 this entire time and why am i throwing the game by bussing t3 when i dont have to and can win for free off of mech.
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Post #178 (isolation #33) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:57 am
Postby OkaPoka »
anyways i would like bug to die but i have 2 other slots in which i will indiscriminately hammer if they reach l1 but i will not out them. all in the game yo
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Post #189 (isolation #36) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:41 am
Postby OkaPoka »
Okay let me analyze this setup for you to prove why I know bussing is bad because scum had a d2 win.
D2 the distribution was 3 masons, 3 dayvigs, 2 vts
you notice anything? scum has 3 shots and can only miss twice. At worst if they decide to just chain shoot, they can reduce the game into a 1v2 which is a 50/50 at lylo with no info. legimately every other scenario ends in a scum win. im a probabilistic guy, i take those odds.
Now bussing t3 is an entirely unnecessary procedure because if I was going to bus I'd just vote t3 and ask him to shoot after we saw the vt n_m. it's just that easy. alternatively, i don't bus t3 and roll the dice trying to flip a vt for a guaranteed win.
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Post #190 (isolation #37) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:42 am
Postby OkaPoka »
I've been voting t3 since d1 on a setup that is absolutely terrible for bussing. You note that t3 panic'd after i voted him, why is he panicking over a partner vote?
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Post #194 (isolation #39) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:45 am
Postby OkaPoka »
but still, i realized t3 was scummy pretty early on id just ask t3 to shoot like asap d2. before he even got votes. worst case he dies. flips red. i look like a god
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Post #195 (isolation #40) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:50 am
Postby OkaPoka »
basically i cant be scum here like its impossible because i voted t3 d1, he panicked on my vote, i would have at the very least gotten t3 to shoot d2 every time at the start, me bussing t3 is just terrible scum play (especially because i was first to vote, i wasnt even going with the flow or anything, i had plenty of times to leave and i didn't), if this was for cred i would've gotten t3 to shoot and worst case get him to flip that literally only benefits me and luke and if im scum thinking about mech, bussing is bad
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Post #197 (isolation #41) » Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:52 am
Postby OkaPoka »
and like that fact that t3 got 5 votes so easily on d2 should show that his scum game is not good enough to fake all that panic. we saw him fake a townslip and it was pretty obvious he was making it up to the point where luke was questioning whether he was town faking or scum faking, not real slip. occam's razor, you think he's faking the panic over me voting him and between posts 6 and 8 he went from obv to talented actor?
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Post #246 (isolation #54) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:33 am
Postby OkaPoka »
bugs hammers t3 because they don't care and figure the cred is good enough? i mean why does any scum hammer their partner? its always for cred and your partner shooting well, they'd be outted scum at that point and any votes after are no longer worth anything.
if you want to think that i bussed t3 for cred d1, well, why doesn't t3 shoot d2 immediately then? an argument can be made he was the obv next lim already, and if t3 outs himself d2 and shoots, the people who get cred for his lim narrows down A LOT. therefore you can't really say that i bussed t3 for credit because i didn't play it optimally if it was for cred.
if you want to say that me and t3 were distancing, you'd have to concede t3 has become a really good scum player and was able to fake a subtle reaction to me voting him into him panicking. which would mean that between posts 6 and 8 he went from unable to accurately faking a reaction (townslip) to being able to fake a panic over his scum partner's vote. now look, i believe people can pick things up pretty quickly, but fuck me, at this rate t3 doesn't really need to play mafia and can go to hollywood because he's going to win an oscar in a month with this skill increase.
now if you want to say that i voted t3 for no reason at all and was going to end up saving t3 somehow, i don't even know. how am i going to save t3 when all ive done this game is vote t3 and refuse to do anything else.
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Post #247 (isolation #55) » Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:38 am
Postby OkaPoka »
for example, start of d2 if im scum with t3 i just ask him to shoot someone. now i've played with t3 before, i think he's obv scum, t3 is a teamplayer, i can link evidence to all of this.
its a great play because if he flips red on a vt miss, well i now know who is vt and the only two people with any cred for t3 is limited to only me and luke and that's honestly enough to go to endgame with. nobody else.
if he hits a mason, that's great too. i can keep pushing t3, i might not, but town is probably confused over why the shot happened early.
the point im trying to make is if im scum with t3, because of my knowledge of t3's scum game, he'd have shot at the start of d2.