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cheeky smile and vote
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nothing that I care about right now.In post 78, bugspray wrote:do you have opinions on anyone else?-
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weird post maybe, honestly just cause they went back to respond to an older post when they had read and were aware enough of the newer posts to comment about the game in regards to someIn post 48, Three wrote:
Ah, yeah that sounds about right. Also agree about LOTR, The Hobbit movies were probably the first time I was severely let down after a bunch of hype.In post 12, Pavowski wrote:
I never finished the series. I stopped after like book five or six, which should tell you somethingIn post 11, Three wrote:VOTE: STD
Is Wheel of Time actually any good? The series on Amazon looks very...not good, which isn't a good sign for the LOTR adaptation they're also doing. I'm assuming it's a "just read the books" kind of situation because a quick Google search shows that the fanbase is really passionate.
Of course the fact that the series has that many books should also tell you something
The Amazon LOTR adaptation can get hecked also, the LOTR trilogy is transcendent and everything after that is just chasing smoke-
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maybe good post but meh toneIn post 63, Three wrote:
Initially I was a bit thrown off by this since tonally it felt out of place. Like I can see the intensity STD mentions, but I can tell it's just a joke since RVS was stalling and it seemed like everyone was waiting for something to happen. This low key did help to get us out of RVS though so I don't think it's a bad post.In post 20, Prism wrote:
VOTE: DragonsIn post 18, Save The Dragons wrote:
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since WHEN IS THIS AN ISSUE-
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this post was kinda funny cause it's not like prism saying in one specific instance bugspray did the same thing they did here as town, should mean that they shouldn't be voted or that it's what prompted it or any such thing. I'd call it a wolfy oversight because of commenting on things without putting real thought into it but I'm not sure, not knowing threeIn post 64, Three wrote:In post 57, Save The Dragons wrote:what were you, what were theyIn post 58, Prism wrote:Town & TownUh. Not liking this vote at all.
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fedora energy in this post and fedora or something pfp ergo consistent and townIn post 83, Val89 wrote:
We have two slots (MegA and Bugspray) claiming they miscounted the number of votes on STD's wagon. Looking back, I can see how Prisms vote being for "Dragons" could have caused some confusion on a quick glance, so I am willing to buy that one.In post 67, Prism wrote:That post makes absolutely no sense, from not being there at the time, not commenting on if, and counting multiple times.
I do find the other implication of Meg saying "I almost accidently hammered" interesting, however. Are you saying you didn't have any reason to actually suspect STD, but would have considered joining the wagon if your vote would have been E-2, but not when it would have E-1? Why?In post 71, MegAzumarill wrote:Value of E-1ing for no reason= ???-
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agree this post isn't great. The mirroring in reasons to prism is pretty notable, mostly in that this post explains what prism did but in a worse wayIn post 94, Three wrote:STD's reactions to pressure feel so OTT that I'm not sure it's even real. Like he's clearly flailing here, but it comes off like he's trying to signal a townie flail by being indignant, and voting emotionally and outside of his scum reads (or what I assume were scum reads on Prism and Bugspray). He's also doing what he can to keep the spotlight on him, but isn't doing much with the attention, mainly just complaining about getting voted instead of doing much to solve. I feel pretty confident in saying that it's a manufactured flail, like a refuge in audacity type of situation. My vote stays.-
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prolly towny reactionIn post 109, Dwlee99 wrote:Why did you bother claiming? Ugh-
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thought the same of bugspray at first and still kinda do just don't think it's wolfy, at least they're not making up readings of the thread as far as I see it. The comment about three is interesting/maybe weird though as it implies three is wolfy or at least notable even though I don't think Val said anything about themIn post 116, Val89 wrote:VOTE: Bugspray
Yeah, this feels off. How many times has Dwlee actively contributed, by that definition? In fact, what about me? It looks like one of those metrics thats makes sense on the surface, but it's obviously a bunch of crap after a moments reflection.
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In post 20, Prism wrote:
VOTE: DragonsIn post 18, Save The Dragons wrote:
since WHEN
since WHEN IS THIS AN ISSUEIn post 30, Prism wrote:sic em ladsIn post 67, Prism wrote:VOTE: Meg
That post makes absolutely no sense, from not being there at the time, not commenting on if, and counting multiple times.In post 89, Prism wrote:Honestly I agree with Pavowski in that you're more touchy and extremely defensive than I've ever seen you be. I considered hammering you if you ever got put to E-1, and would still probably consider it again.
Granted I also haven't seen you ever actually close to voted out so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
biggest concern about prism is while they could just be a towny who doesn't care much I see a lot of what they're doing as a wolf trying to dig into people. They don't offer much in terms of contributions to town reading people but do a lot of the opposite and in ways likeIn post 125, Prism wrote:Who is playing on bugspray's account and is the real bugspray safe?
voting std third as a meme (which I think the aggressiveness std originally felt in it could just be wolfy opportunism trying to masquerade as not that)
recognizing the potential for and for some reason encouraging a hammer
two posts that are fine but are simply wolf reading people at least slightly
and a post which seems to be aiming to wolf read bugspray but just doesn't
overall it doesn't really mean much but the potential is there I guess. I think the worst post here probably is the last one where they seemingly should be or want to be wolf reading bugspray but don't really but idk-
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another overall question mark for me is bugspray, looking over the game again, but not really because of their reasons for pushing me. Mostly because the way it was telegraphed was weird. Asking me for wine reason to remember my read on page 1 rather than give it then, later following up on that which okay but then even later just going "kill this person." It's pretty a->b which in this case maybe is warranted but like maybe concern yourself with other slots in any way if you're trying hard enough to want to kill someone already, or don't be so predictable
that being said nothing in the thread rn really matters. Val, STD, dwlee town
Some more thought from Meg would be good
and I could vote anyone else and feel varying degrees of fine about it but don't really care enough about one to do that-
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the thing I'm most interested in really is if three giving the same read as prism is a wolf matching their partners agenda or a wolf latching into town reasoning to give more validity to their own because I honestly can't tell and figuring out partner stuff like that is good for 9ers. By default I'd call it wolf/town. I guess while we're here Val is never with Bugspray but this is less relevant to me-
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whyIn post 181, MegAzumarill wrote:Spicy? take: StD, Esooa, Val 89 are all town-
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Interesting that you're town reading me. How come?In post 218, Val89 wrote:The rest of my reads, just in case.
I'm townreading Essoa as I said previously, overall this is my strongest read. I'm also townleaning Meg and Prism, and I would call Three a townlean independantly of the issue I have with the timing of bugspray's "can I interest you elsewhere" post but because of it, on a scum!bugspray flip, as I expect, I would be looking there more closely, as I would STD.
Dwlee is null currently, there was an initial temptation to consider 119 the laziest chainsaw defense there ever was; but I can see a possible town motivation for it if they were waiting to see who bites. Not much else going on with that slot.
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I didn't think my posting was deserving of a top town read, but I suppose I may just be undervaluing my postingIn post 232, Val89 wrote:
I liked your posting. Even though I disagree with some of the takes, I can see the logic behind them and how a townie would get there, with the exception of 138, where I can't see any angle anyone would find that AI, but there is effort being made to sniff out the AI things in even small ISOs. I know this is pre-flips, but the fact that both my strongest scumreads are gunning for your slot helps, too.In post 229, Esooa wrote:Interesting that you're town reading me. How come?
I am wondering though, out of everything I've posted,why this is the thing you wanted to ask about. I get that evaluating the reasons behind a read can help sort the slot giving it, and I wouldn't have raised an eyebrow if you had asked about any but your own.
Why move off Pav, here?
I moved off because Dwlee atm seems more important to pressure than Pav to me, I got what was necessary from voting him and can return later if I want to-
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Pav being a PR makes a decent amount of sense because FmPoV I saw Pav as focusing very heavily on things like defending themselves, "who's my partner" kinda thing, and had very few reads. One of their only contributions in the first series of posts was saying there was a wolf on their two person wagon and having little reasons for that being the case or who it was on it, and etc.
The play makes some more sense as a PR, but someone who when pressured couldn't really give much (as I saw it) in terms of content and focused instead on self defense was wolfy/fine with a day 1 elim where I have no sure scum reads. So in that sense I think Pav's worry about his position in the thread makes more sense than as VT and I think it's something that can often come from town, but it still just leaves a bad taste in my mouth
I don't think Bugspray has done a ton this game, but I don't feel bad about anything they've done. Their reasoning for the heavy skepticism towards myself and Prism made sense, I could see pretty easily where their Three is town comment came from (which could just be me projecting, as nothing was really given for why), the turn around on Meg seemed towny.
Dwlee is someone I want dead currently mostly because I again don't have much in terms of confident wolf reads and they're just.... barely playing the game. I disagree with their conclusions more than other players, and although the thoughts are fine I just generally don't like them and they're kinda sparse.
I think Three showed a sort of care of how they're perceived in thread, but it wasn't "I'm being scum read and that worries me," it was much more intense and personal, in the way of "people are wrong about me and what I'm saying and my intentions and they need to stop," which comes a lot more from strong and true (aka villager) convictions. That's shown in their posting before Bugspray called them town and again since then.
Val I think has been posting good thoughts, thinking about a lot of things, and giving lots of reasons. I may need to look at them more closely, because I remembered earlier there's a lot more scum archetypes on MS along the lines of.. sort of wall posting content to give lots of thoughts and such, but generally done much better than on other sites I've played on. Maybe Val could fit that I guess, and would be a blindspot for me this game as I've never really thought about them as scum, but yeah, I just like them a lot I guess. They also very strongly give me the impression of someone who has convictions and plays to them in a very strict manor, or, they seem to be playing very logically and trying to hold themselves and everyone to that in a way that just comes across to me as genuine.
Prism I'm unsure on because I do think a lot of their posting can more easily fit the archetype of scum who can post a lot of thoughts that are reasonable or good thoughtsbecause I don't feel the same strength of conviction behind certain things as someone like Val, but I'm not really concerned about them because I don't really care to kill them day 1 and I recall them being very very obvious town in later days in terms of just effort to drive out wolves and can just measure them by that later on if need be.
I need to reread Meg before giving thoughts I'm okay with there as I may want to kill them day but I'm not sure on their alignment at all and I think they're someone I can be a decent amount more sure on with proper reading-
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yes and if you're a wolf you probably should NK meIn post 287, Prism wrote:Are you that confident activity will be so AI for me?-
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In post 299, Esooa wrote:can dwlee, val, and who ever else wants link a town and wolf game-
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you will dieIn post 337, Dwlee99 wrote:Sorry I'm trying to figure out which town game most fits my play this game and which scum game least fits it-
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are you even tryingIn post 355, bugspray wrote:hot take esooa avatar change is to make the memes with old avatar harder to parse and to obfuscate putential correct scum reads-
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well you voted me and said the day vig thing alsoIn post 361, bugspray wrote:
did you fucking read the posti literally say "hot take"In post 358, Esooa wrote:
are you even tryingIn post 355, bugspray wrote:hot take esooa avatar change is to make the memes with old avatar harder to parse and to obfuscate putential correct scum reads-
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but if that's the case then sureIn post 372, Esooa wrote:
well you voted me and said the day vig thing alsoIn post 361, bugspray wrote:
did you fucking read the posti literally say "hot take"In post 358, Esooa wrote:
are you even tryingIn post 355, bugspray wrote:hot take esooa avatar change is to make the memes with old avatar harder to parse and to obfuscate putential correct scum reads-
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laughable not only because it's a meta read but also because of how bad of one it isIn post 404, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Esooa Iso This Game
Esooa Iso in Happy Face
just scroll down it's not even comparable in terms of engagement/hunting-
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I'm bored enough to post this
1: you're talking about a perceived difference between one single game and one other game, which is just ridiculous. Trying to meta read someone off one game will never do you any help
2: that game was 9 months ago when I've been playing mafia for a total of 13 months
3: day 2 of that game in which I was "p comfortable just chilling into deadline"
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