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can't believe nobody has commented on the fact that I'm townreading duckie before he even posted >_>

i don't really blame you, my aura is towny

VOTE: megazu

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[quote="In post 60, Gamma Emerald"][/quote]
ditto, i think this wagon hits scum like, eerily close to 0% of the time

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0% so early in the game is a stretch.

have you played with ircher before?

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fascinating.

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Ircher is quite a lot more self-aware and self-conscious as scum. I don't really see him doing either of 1) accidentally townreading someone for a rand readlist; or 2) deliberately townreading someone for a rand readlist as scum lol.

i also think he's been wagoned early in every single game i've ever played with him

why do you think he's scummy nor ?

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Ircher is quite a lot more self-aware and self-conscious as scum. I don't really see him doing either of 1) accidentally townreading someone for a rand readlist; or 2) deliberately townreading someone for a rand readlist as scum lol.

i also think he's been wagoned early in every single game i've ever played with him

why do you think he's scummy nor ?

They directly stated to have find the content in Tracer's reads list townie. I'm now waiting to hear those reasons to see if it sheds light on the matter. Until them I'm of the opinion that what they did was an scummy act and any comments made afterwards could just be justification made after the fact.
I don't care about that sort of meta and i think that kind of thinking leads to townreading scum that has broken their meta or is playing differently because of an new environment.

this isn't really meta. i think you're hyperfocused on something that looks bad, and you're not analysing whether or not it *is* bad.

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calling gamma probationarily town for mindmeld

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And tbh, why couldn't it be you that's hyperfocusing on him being town for a reason that's probably not as strong as you think it is.

my read is on two things.
the fact i think this opening is towny for ircher is half meta, half reading tea leaves.
the fact i think that the push on him is shitty is objectively on point.

i'd encourage you to look over the wagon and see who there you think is operating in good faith :p

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i'm saying that the second part of my read is more significant than the first.

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though i will concede most of my reads are based on tea leaves

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how dare

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what can i say? i have a scummy personality.

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i'm voting megazu to make them more powerful

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mmm i felt a certain way about ircher calling tracer town, and i felt the other way about megazu calling you town. take that how you will.

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that's not really feasible lol

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^_^

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why do u like megazu?

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oh my god

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whaaat i'm not that old

pedit: if you don't then why are you drilling down on my read on them so early?

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i'm not certain on megazu either that's why i'm voting megazu based off a strange moment

why does this conversation feel like bad scum theatre

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i was just thinking the same thing about myself. i wonder if i should make that my sig after this game.

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Obviously there's no scum in the game and we're all townies.

Meg town.

pls enlighten me i'm not that smart

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VOTE: tracer

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tracer should i sheep you or wallflower?

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ugh i guess this option is more stylish.

VOTE: gamma

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Indeed, a decision befitting of your luxurious cape.

oh i like you.

I was interested in your opinion of Ircher’s play around me vs. Mega though. I felt like it could be scum trying to fuel the fire, but you seem to know Ircher well.

maybe. i think this is a similar situation, where it's easy to see something as unusual (they aren't taking a side; ergo they're letting us kill each other). but it less simple difficult to know whether to attribute malice or interest to it. as quickly as i'd post one would make that kind of post to fuel the fire as scum, i'd post that one would make that post if they were interested in seeing where the conversation went to solve alignments. my follow-up thought is "would one bother to make the post at all if being deceitful?", and i don't think Ircher would consider that post particularly useful to make as scum, so once again I come away thinking it's slightly >rand town.

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Well that’s nice dear.

How about a deal?

Will you vote Gamma with me?

VOTE: Gamma Emerald

And you are doing this

why

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You were Tracer’s other scumread so consolidation there seemed likely. Plus I think there’s a reasonable chance you’re scum? Ideally I’d like more than that, but there’s not all that much going at the moment.

woah wait you think gamma us actually scum? why's that?

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People who I have as varying degrees of townread (in no particular order):

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Tracer
Mega
Norwegianboy
Ircher
Something_smart

hell yeah i'm someone's top townread!!!!! !!

why do you townread nor / ss?

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it was fine, i just have a penchant for the DRAMATIC !!!
i like voting gamma and i think gamma is hard to read and not towny but i don't really see a lot of scumminess there so i am a bit confused by your choice of language, even if noncommittal

i can like, sense ss is town but i am not gonna be confident in his alignment for a decent minute.

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There's dissonance between what you (or maybe I) perceive as scum!play, your awareness of self and said scum!play, and playing with scumsided cause/effect type actions.

Those were mostly just words.

i can read your thoughts far better than i can read this sentence, if you know what i mean

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VOTE: wallflower I think putting gamma to e-1 is an utterly awesome idea honestly

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Bleh, running out of people to call me scum VOTE: Ircher

What changed abt wallflower fypov?

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Is there anyone who actually thinks Gamma can be town atp

someone will know for certain soon.

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Hi Toogeloo!! a lotta people think you were scum, and you're a counterwagon to ircher who im flabbergasted people are voting lol

RCE is town
Megazu is town
I think ircher is town

all the best

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I'm also town but that should be obvious already !!

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ugh i guess this option is more stylish.

I'm a bit concerned that you chose to go with the stylish option here rather than follow your instincts.

REALLY? And yet you said nothing until the pressure was on you?

Gamma Emerald's reactions feel a bit exaggerated, but if I'm being honest, I'm probably town reading the slot rn.

Honestly, the stylish option is pretty close to where my gut was anyway. What's got you townreading Gamma's slot?

VOTE: NorwegianboyEE

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VOTE: The Worst

I think it’ll be difficult for me to explain exactly so that might happen later, but this is WHERE I’M AT

don't worry, this too shall pass

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I await it with bated breath.

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Somehow i had already predicted 10 pages ago Worst’s voting pattern.

you were still scum 10 pages ago? shocker

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I may be red on the outside, but inside is an green core of pure innocence.

would you like a glass of water?

I may be red on the outside, but inside is an green core of pure innocence.

VOTE: The Worst

I think it’ll be difficult for me to explain exactly so that might happen later, but this is WHERE I’M AT

don't worry, this too shall pass

It hasn't yet. When will it????

give it like another day or so, and you will see the purity within my soul /o/

who do u think I'm like, scum with? who do you townread / whos in the null space?

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I guess the other big one is "humour me and find a team without me in it", but I suspect you may find that droll atm

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would you like a glass of water?

I don’t get it.

You're red, I wanna help you cool down

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kitties purring

PAT THEM ALL from me please thanks

I'll be back to this tomorrow!

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oh fascinating I think wallflower and norwegianboyee are town

VOTE: tracer lil happier here

probably 0 in tw/probably megazu/I still feel right on ircher tbh
wallflower and nor trending upwards, I think maybe wallflower slightly more so than nor
I can't remember why i started townreading rce but I remember doin it
tracer/ss/toog is where I'm looking atm

pushing ss for not posting is not very helpful

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mean

I think this is the post i liked but im not really sure I'd invest in it

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I like Norwee's analysis so far. I'd be interested in hearing Ircher and the worst (the two votes on Norwee) explain if they still scum read there.

I looked at the worst's iso and I'm currently leaning their Norwee vote was a sheep at a time that Norwee might have been susceptible to a wagon, and I like their vote the least.

it was a sheep. any thoughts on the rest of my content / any reason you this me sheeping there is scum indicative?

I should probably reevaluate Tracer. I think Norwee and RCE are town though.

Not sure what to make of Wallflower, Ircher, or MegA yet. I'm never confident on my MegA reads as is. Tracer can stay a slight town lean for now. SS is forgettable.

VOTE: the worst

interested in your rce read too if youd be ok expanding

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I don't actually have any kitties. Does that affect your read on me?

it dampens my spirit but not my read of your alignment. my kitten woke me up this morning by jumping on my chest, purring really loudly, then munching on my arm. so maybe ive had enough cat for now anyway lol.

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Norwegian and RCEnigma remain my top scum reads, but I understand it's unlikely either of them are going to accrue votes here. Smart and Tracer happen to be in my next lowest rung of reads. I already explained Smart. As for Tracer: they really are not doing much. Lots of extravagant showing, but that's about it. Their last post makes it clear they aren't really sharing their true reads; they are throwing out stuff and observing the reactions around them.

First part of this is where im at tbh - it feels like tracer wants to be seen to be solving but im not really convinced theres authentic solving there. Feels showy.

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Lol @ Ircher claiming that I'm scum for "not hunting" when dude plants his vote on Norwee and just sits there for 5 days

this kind of post is kinda rich when i dont have any idea what your read on ircher is or what you think ircher's vote or Norway means or like........ any part of this which actually matters....

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on top of the fact the wagon on ircher was already stupid, the game has now stagnated with him as lead wagon :p who do people think ircher is aligned with? what does literally anyone think scum are doing?

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if I were a dayvig I'd shoot tracer and toog and cackle at how easy mafia is

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LAST POST I PROMISE but I feel like Ircher is getting votes because his posting isn't really endearing him to anyone and that feels like sort of the opposite of what we should be voting for

well said.

Ircher has mostly just been doing these scummy: "Haha, gotcha!" takes which their RCE read is an prime example on.
It feels fake as F.

im so excited to have egg on my face but like..... what feels fake about them exactly? I feel like the main people who feel put out by Ircher are the people he explicitly scumreads (you/rce) and I don't really understand why either of you think ircher is aligned with the mafia but i do kinda understand why hes perplexing for both of you

I don't think tracer is town so idrc about his reasoning at this point

They are simultaneously being low energy in their solving energy, and putting forth some really bad and fake solving.
And somehow people here still claim they townread it.

this is another great example of something which looks votable but i don't see why you think its mafia aligned.

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Do you realize how stupid this statement "the ircher wagon is stupid because the game has stagnated with him as the lead wagon" is if Ircher is mafia?

That's a really fuckin big if given I dont really buy any of the scumreads. This is like saying that claimed guilties are bad if they just happen to be on town.

In that case you'd be saying essentially "hey look voting Ircher hasn't caused him to do anything, he just omgus voteparked Norwee, he's not hunting, no1 is pushing him."

So let's just leave him alone and let him do nothing! Let's not vote for him and try to get his wagon to a place where it can kill him!

Because voting for Ircher is "stagnating the game"

Like wtf is that logic???

That logic is that
Scum are an informed minority
Ircher necessarily has a scumbuddy
Scum's wincon involves outlasting the town
I see no efforts to drive a wagon to make this happen from anyone except myself
I know I'm town
The efforts to casually dunk on Ircher feel unfounded and too comfortable with the current gamestate
Therefore I suspect them
This has been the lead wagon with the same 3 votes for a long time and I'd be surprised if scum are just wholesale ignoring it.
If ircher is scum set to go down d1 id be shocked if nobody had the bright idea to bus
You dont seem to be considering bussing at all

there's a massive hole in your play & you happen to be the worst offender wrt trying to elim ircher rather than trying to solve ircher

and I'm arguing with you that you are scum because people are stating discomfort with you but im not seeing any votes moving.

angry quacks.

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I realize this might be extremely biased, but i want to townread you based on the fact that you are one of the few players that is being proactive right now.

I'd proceed extremely carefully with this because while he is making proactive noises, he is not really doing anything to solve alignments.

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The worst, what do you think of Tracer’s recent pissy-ness, for lack of a better word. Do they seem genuinely peeved about the slow-moving game?

They seem really pissed that they're catching heat. They feel entitled to an Ircher lim. I don't vibe.

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I wasn’t actually talking btw, I’m on a bus rn and that would probably make people concerned

and discussing ongoing games with yourself on a bus is still discussing ongoing games!

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I would 100% do this for a scumbuddy just so that next time I hard defended someone d1 I could say that I would 100% do it for a scumbuddies

That aside I am not sure flipping ircher is a sensible way to determine my alignment

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Ircher is prob just looking at Worst defending them and being like: "Ah yes, i don’t need to do anything cus 1 town hard townreads me nyehehe"

Ircher started the wagon on Tracer. Dont think its fair to say that he's just lurkin. :/

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wait he followed me not the others way round
mmm
not a huge factor

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Like what has Ircher done.
They just vote me and say "i read them as scum" like ok, that's it. Real nice C O N T R I B U T I O N. And that's also kinda what they did with RCE before finally giving an explanation, but then they switched to Tracer. And they haven't explained that read either, which just makes it look like they read that the thread vibe was heading against Tracer so they decided to move there.

I think you're a bit hyperfocused on ircher needing to explain his read in you. I'm not sure that his lack of doing so is really scum motivated.

Is he trying it on as scum? Eh. Maybe.
Does he think he's gonna get your lim? Big doubt.
I think his lack of need to explain himself shows pure mindset and the way he was like "I dont need to explain myself" on rce then just totally did is kinda towny actually?

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Nor - I think you're my second strongest town read atm. I can see why you're voting ircher. But I really just dont think you have caught scum. Tracer is being really overtly manipulative here. I think there's one scum who isnt on Ircher, and I think it's in Toog/maybe SS. I'm just imploring you to hear me out.

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Like what has Ircher done.
They just vote me and say "i read them as scum" like ok, that's it. Real nice C O N T R I B U T I O N. And that's also kinda what they did with RCE before finally giving an explanation, but then they switched to Tracer. And they haven't explained that read either, which just makes it look like they read that the thread vibe was heading against Tracer so they decided to move there.

I think you're a bit hyperfocused on ircher needing to explain his read in you. I'm not sure that his lack of doing so is really scum motivated.

Is he trying it on as scum? Eh. Maybe.
Does he think he's gonna get your lim? Big doubt.
I think his lack of need to explain himself shows pure mindset and the way he was like "I dont need to explain myself" on rce then just totally did is kinda towny actually?

I feel like ur just setting up the precedent for scum!Ircher to never need to explain his reads with this dumb "pure" defense.

Maybe. But my wincon is to elim scum, not to elim town with incompatible playstyles.

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Does he think he's gonna get your lim? Big doubt.

so ircher!town

decided to vote park norwee

and do nothing

because ??????

Because he scumreads Nor...
Nor, this is a pocket attempt.

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Youve got what you'll get from me. We're wagoning one scum, and it isn't Ircher. Tracer has a buddy off-wagon, and is being overtly manipulative to keep ircher's wagon in-tact. There's a profound dissonance between be tween "idc lim me, garbage town" and all of the shit hes pulling here. please don't fall for this.

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Obviously nobody hammer this. I could go for a Toog wagon too tbh.

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Whatever. I think this is winnable through day play. I'm informed that Ircher is town.

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sorry y'all im not the town hunting god I wish I was but all my points stand :p

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Literally kill tracer jeezfuck

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tracer/toog should be 2/2, wildcards are ss and wall (who if scum played thar 1v1 spectacularly)

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UNVOTE:

Whatever. I think this is winnable through day play. I'm informed that Ircher is town.

I will be malding if you fake-claim this and Ircher is actually mafia

I cannot believe y'all aren't seeing that this is coming from someone who needed that elim to go through.

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duckie if I was mafia you'd be eating breadcrumbs out of my hand and asking me if I was your mommy.

did you ever find those cigarettes?

I’m sorry for misreading your play worst. I did not consider that you may have been informed on Ircher.

i believe this, fwiw. if you are mafia then you read that situation incredibly well.

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the scum win is coming. I can feel it.

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There's like. a zero percent chance scum never touched the ircher wagon. just a reminder.

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I'll switch to Toog if Tracer has no momentum by EOD but like he is clearly still making 0 efforts to solve this.

Not thrilled about the SS wagon. Which of nor & megazu are scum? :c

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Every time I open the thread all i see is you spitting out AtE because you think we owe you something. None of us do. If we think youre scum we are totally just allowed to vote you because we feel it.

VOTE: toogeloo E-1

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Frankly I think Tracer is the type of player who tries to push the game forward & accumulate clout as either alignment. I think that (paired with AtEing because he doesnt wanna be voted ) is all hes doin. There's a point where we kinda have to evaluate whether he's misguided town or whether he was trying to be townread and fell on his ass when i defended ircher. I think just assuming the best is a dangerous habit.

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I think there's enough scummy players that just flipping any of Tracer/Toog/SS is fine tbqh. That's probably my order of preference.

VOTE: Tracer ill be around for deadline

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VOTE: megazu

sorry ircher!!

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Gg scum, well played!

Thanks RH for modding. Nice work on your debut.

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No redactions from me.

Regrets, on the other hand...

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I don't really focus much on mech as i do dayplay.
Which is a weakness i should try to fix probably.

You focus on dayplay?!

(I'm sorry I dont really mean it)