Micro 1053: DmangwGBiaf [game over]

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Koopa

You snooze you lose, as they say.

You made the first post so unfortunately you are going to die.
Sucks.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The weirdness of this game just increased exponentially.

[NorwegianboyEE]

The weirdness of this game just increased exponentially.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: Koopa
I've decided to bother the green shell instead

What if i bother you.
VOTE: Dwlee99

[NorwegianboyEE]

So it is a lead?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Do you have reads so far.

[NorwegianboyEE]

There was one post i felt was townie from Aristeia so far, but i know their scum game is pretty decent from our last game together.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I use they as an sort of universal term so i don't need to worry about making mistakes whenever i ramble, but i'll try to remember to use her pronoun for you.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what makes jack scum as opposed to just being new

I don't see why this should matter that much.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Your vote was the third vote though, which puts me at E-2 when you don't even feel a particular direction on my slot?

Just making an E-2 vote isn’t a big deal Dwlee and i feel you should know that.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This is the game where secret alts come to die.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I thought Instructor Rean's avatar and username was referring to some kind of Pokemon anime character before searching it up.

[NorwegianboyEE]

3v3 this early in a micro is unique.

Makes it more spicy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

No clue who Rean is an alt of, but they seem fine so far.
Dwlee still of doubtful legality.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dwlee why did you ask STD in particular.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can anyone explain to me Bugsprays gimmick or what they doing?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I am fairly sure I know who Rean is and if I'm right they are scumtelling right now.
Dwlee/gamma also weird but not scum together.

I'll be busy the next week or so so dont expect much from me.
Finally able to tone down and do shit like this as town it kept happening when i was scum and i was like no this is just a coincidence ):

What does your last paragraph mean?
And in which way is Rean scumtelling for you?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh you mean you can tone down as town and not scum?
Wanna know first question still tho.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh i meant: "i wanna know last question still".
Writing is hard.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Sus on Dwlee.
Yeet is still lurking even though i feel it should be possible to have some reads by now so mild scumlean.

Std and Gamma feels town.
Bugspray is wtf.

I'm not sure about the Ari/Koopa/you slots yet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

What do you mean by mad scientist Koopa and researcher Ari.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ftr I think bugspray makes sense as a gamma partner

Doesn't Bugspray kinda make sense as partner for anyone by account of them not rly doing anything specific other than meme.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I will say I think you're still overestimating VCA (I've lost games cause townie thinks "how could this wagon have no scum on it") but your thoughts are more believable now
UNVOTE:

This felt appeasy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Dwlee who is the scum voting you if you're town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That's anyone lol.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I didn't want you to do anything other than tell me your thoughts.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Bugspray hasn't done anything that should make you townread them. They're also voting me, so they should be a consideration for a gamma partner.

I think i agree on Rean that Bugspray is too wtf to be scum.
I mean it could be a cover, but i don't wanna flip there today. I've also just been in a game with scum!Bugspray and they felt way different.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It doesn't really have to do with the gimmick, more their lack of purpose.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It doesn't really have to do with the gimmick, more their lack of purpose.

What makes you think bugspray plays scum with purpose?

That's what they did in my previous game with them.

[NorwegianboyEE]

One time I townread a pooky/ydra gimmick hydra because "why would they give up their agency as scum to only post in art memes" well turns out I'm an idiot and they were scum

If you don't intend to vote Bugspray then what's the point in arguing. Are you just trying to make us paranoid of the slot?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Link? Have not seen that from bugspray

viewtopic.php?f=51&t=89054&hilit=+bugspray

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yeet do you have thoughts on the game yet?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Koba I want long-form Rean case

ok here u go:


Rean is a Greeting alt

This is incorrect. I am not Greeting. I did pull from their vocabulary though.

I do not wish to out myself to correct this however as I have this alt for a reason.

Why did you try to pretend to be someone else in the first place?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I've not seen greeting scum

Greeting repped in as scum in the game you were in that i modded.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This game is death to hidden alts

I am slowly realizing that my posts are true prophesy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

norwee just feels slightly slimy im still trying to figure out if their push on dwlee is genuine

Do you think Dwlee could be town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Did you just give up your scumread on me and Gamma or what.

[NorwegianboyEE]

It’s too bad this’ll sound Omgusy sibce they voted me, but i do think i’d find that catchup scummy even if they voted someone else.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I ate Tiramisu ice cream today.

It was nice.

[NorwegianboyEE]

UNVOTE:
Consider my spiritual vote on Yeet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

what are your thoughts on dwlee now, norwee

If they are scum they won't be limmed today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yah i’m also doubting myself.

[NorwegianboyEE]

VOTE: bell

Is Yeet Bell?
Or did you mistake game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh wow. I checked Yeet’s previous games. And this is super low activity and different.
VOTE: Yeet
Never mind i’m confident on something again.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Having a rough day at work.

But um actually 7 is divisible by 3 just there is a remainder that is a fraction.

Any real number is divisible by any other real number that is not zero.

This fraction is irreducibile though so it’s commonly written as 7/3 unless you need the decimal representation for some reason.

So you are MathBlade after all.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Theory:
StD is mafia that said "Ok just buss me hard today and you'll be able to skate by with the cred my flip gives for tommorow ElO, since there are no real town PR's left in the game probably."
And this silence is them avoiding to show any ties with their partner.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh and by STD i meant S_S.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Mixing my games~

[NorwegianboyEE]

Wait, this is the wrong game.
Please don't listen to me i'm stupid and that was not meant for this game.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They did say they would come back or something.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Booriiing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Posting a big wall with a lot of rambling and superficial stances.
I don’t really see why this is town, Ari.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like it doesn’t feel very organic.

And there is almost no spacing in their text. (Biggest crime)

[NorwegianboyEE]

it isn't townie but if he's going to make the effort I'd like to hear him out.

Ok, that’s fine.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Why am i your top town?

[NorwegianboyEE]

UNVOTE:

I'm not sure I want the day to end here.

the more I think about it the more this vote from yeet feels so bad that maybe he doesn't even do it as mafia

Actually I mean you say that but you also say this here. It feels a little inconsistent - did you unvote me because of this reason right here or are you unvoting me because you don’t think I’m townie but I’m making effort? I doubt I’m “catching you for being inconsistent” here as scum but like idk I still want a more clear explanation on your process

I unvoted you because I thought your vote feels like a bad move for you to make as mafia in the position you are in.

I don't actually know how you play scum so it's not something to townread you for - I'd rather talk out why you think I am scum.

Question, what would a "good move" for Yeet be in their position? I don't think it's very likely for them to shift the suspicion on anyone other than me or you considering this is where there seems to be most disagreement.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can’t believe we’re not gonna yeet yeet.

[NorwegianboyEE]

to put it more simply:

I'm scumreading the gap in your enthusiasm between the games we played together[where you were town] and this game.

Faking a townmindset/solving as scum is not

fun

for a lot of people so they tend to not do it.

When I played previously with you - both times you were very enthusiastic in solving during the early game and I felt quite good about slotting you as town.

Here you just feel like you didn't really show up to play and then when put to e-1 you did a "Catchup" that felt more like someone who had to produce some homework they procrastinated on for too long than someone actually trying to communicate their mindset.

I take it you know who their main is? What gave it away for you?
(Btw, i don’t really know)

[NorwegianboyEE]

Gotta say, something about Yeet’s posting is making my skin crawl.

[NorwegianboyEE]

bruh yeet is so blatant lol

has no time to go through the game has time to make defensive statements
all they wanna share is how much they "totally can't be scum" here with no solvy energy.

kill it pleaae and ty.

Yeah it’s just so survivalistic.

[NorwegianboyEE]

And they r like: "ok back to voting Norwe" without really explaining why anything makes me scum?

[NorwegianboyEE]

i think rean looks bad too imo

Why does Rean look bad?

maybe i need to reassess i kinda feel like yeet is town but if yeet is not then that changes things

Why do you "maybe need to reassess" for me

i feel like people's response to your catchup isn't genuine but maybe i'm wrong. i'm coming from the mindset that you are town and seeing who is like "oh this catchup sucks" instead of like "it's fine" which i think or even "here's my problem with your catchup." i feel like rean (and norwee for that matter) falls in the first camp which looks like he's trying to shade you.

as for your second question i think that people were prematurely scumreading you in absentia while i was prematurely townreading you during that period and there's definitely the possibility i'm just wrong about you and you are scum and i need to assess for that and think about that as well and how that affects things, i think that makes the "oh this catchup sucks" people look less bad if you are scum

Ok well you expected wrong. I don’t like the catchup and i’m town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I can try to turn my messy thoughts into intelligble words once i’m not phone posting and wake up tommorow.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Ok Bugspray slot is really weird.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Who says "don't lim me cus i'm getting repped out for inactivity" ???

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Yeet and Bugspray have partner equity considering Yeet was like "Ah yes i'll vote there" but when Bugspray wagon get's to E-1 they unvote. Probably wanted to buss while waiting for replace but then got nervous after they got to E-1.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Guess i'm an obvious player.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Imo Mathblade as scum would be much more blatantly trying to obvtown and pocket, i’m not really seeing that here.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also Yeet is voting there. Lmao.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Aristeia can you explain what exactly you are feeling bad about more?

I'm used to koba/mathblade/norwee/dwlee/you posting more.

I'm not sure if the game state feels dead because we're wrong or because we're right - it just feels off.

I think this gamestate is the way it is because we hit scum and they AtE'd.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Maybe this depends on who Yeet truly is, but since i don't know i'm just applying the rule of general. And generally speaking, this kind of big activity boost from Yeet while just posting nonsense prior to being E-1'd is a scum response.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Guess i need to put on my thinking hat.
Tbh i don’t think hammer was bad in itself since nothing was really happening at that point.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t really think mass claim is a good idea.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i am fairly sure the only reason i am alive is because scum want me to tunnel std

What makes you think this?

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm totally cool with rean claiming

Wait you want mass claim or only Rean claim?

[NorwegianboyEE]

A mass claim today is for people who don’t want to think or analyze the game and I for one am not lazy.

Yee. Dayplay -> mechanics.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Didn't Koba also scumread STD.

[NorwegianboyEE]

i am fairly sure the only reason i am alive is because scum want me to tunnel std

What makes you think this?

because if STD was mafia I would be dead

Also i don't really think that's true by itself.
Plenty of games where if you kill the person openly scumreading you that makes it too obvious who's the bad guy.

[NorwegianboyEE]

That said i'm not sure i want STD today.
I'm kinda sus on Dwlee.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yea and my confidence about Cephrir last game was off too?

What is this referring to?

[NorwegianboyEE]

Yes but what is the context.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They are saying they were right about Cephrir last game we played together

I know that. -.-

Fine i'll read the game myself later since ur being useless.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Well guess we doing this then.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Actually now i'm starting to wonder if Rean should claim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

They seem a bit panicky tbh.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hi i'm VT.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This game is really annoying.
I told y'all mass claim sucks.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I have a feeling Rean is prob scum here but idk if that's because i feel they're being scummy or i just don't like how toxic they are being right now.

[NorwegianboyEE]

would you have preferred we elim NK15 instead with Gamma not claiming his inno

I didn't really want NK15 in the first place.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think Dwlee/Rean maybe is a hit.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Alternatively it could be Ari.
I don't like how they were saying "I was kept alive to tunnel STD today" -.-

[NorwegianboyEE]

i think they were tho

Koopashell also voiced suspicion on you. And was a much bigger voice than Ari.
That's why it feels a bit like an false justification.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Hmm ok.
Do you think Dwlee/Math is a viable team?

[NorwegianboyEE]

If Ari is not scum i think that's where i would be at.

[NorwegianboyEE]

My biggest worry is Ari/Dwlee so when i get time i'ma check if it is possible they are aligned.
If i find out not, i think i'd be just fine with an Rean lim for today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

my choices currently are:

(a) Dwlee thinks I'm a psychopath who is jealous of everyone who makes Datisi happy

(b) Dwlee is trying to make a joke about me loving Datisi.

(c) Dwlee!scum is trying to fake thoughts to get me to townread them for a believable progression/attack on me very early in the game.


I'm going with choice (b) because I don't particularly like (a) or (c) in terms of how unpleasant it will be for me to play either of those out.

This post in particular stands out to me. It was made during the start of the game when Dwlee/Ari was having this RVS thing.
Paranoia says it could have been some planned earlier distancing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

are you just mafia with mathblade : )

This one was iffy. Idk if it's because Ari is scum with Dwlee or maybe trying to implicate Dwlee if Rean is scum partner.
Continuing.

[NorwegianboyEE]

logically speaking it make absolutely no sense for mathblade in this game to be worried about scum faking a guilty AND also want to delay mass claim to elo.

Ok i don't think it makes much sense for Ari to be so adamant about Rean!scum if partnered.
So i'm leaning more likely on Dwlee/Rean than Ari/Rean.
Still not entirely sure on Dwlee/Ari yet. But Dwlee/Rean feels slightly more possible.
Leaning voting Rean for today.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I'm not that optimistic yet. But sure that's good we got 2 PR's alive.
I don't think any of them are fake claiming.
A 9 player setup with less than 2 town PR's would probably not work.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think i'm ready to vote Rean soon.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think that's where i'll end up anyways.

[NorwegianboyEE]

If it's Dwlee/Ari i'll be sad.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I don’t feel like Aristeia plays like this toDay as scum

Kay i'll trust u, but only this once.

VOTE: Rean

[NorwegianboyEE]

Can someone tell me why Dwlee is supposed to be town?

Gonna put my hands in the air, and say: "Shrug, hell if i know"

[NorwegianboyEE]

also I have a hard time believing you actually think Norwee/Ari is a viable solution given that my scum game is based mostly on naked aggression and it would've been trivial for me to get Norwee onboard with yeeting NK15 immediately at daystart when you/rean piled onto him and tommorrow we just crush you at elo.

But i said i wasn’t confident in voting NK…

[NorwegianboyEE]

Oh, ok i see.
I wanna read you as town here Ari, i think if you were scum you would prob be shading me more to try and endgame in a low PoE environment.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Rean/Dwlee lezz gooo

[NorwegianboyEE]

Also it seems unlikely Ari/Dwlee partners.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I think u were.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Meanwhile i’m trying to ram a square block through a triangle block.

[NorwegianboyEE]

I am kind of at the point it doesn’t matter what I post.

You all have decided to elim me

You all already disregard what opinions I did share.

I think there’s more value in my miselim this point than anything else for town.

I think you need me to flip green to reset reads.

Good luck.

This is really bad play if u r town.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Like town shouldn’t encourage their lim.

[NorwegianboyEE]

This game makes more sense if NK15 is scum tbh

except he has an inno result on him

Yes yes I know but like this game just makes way more sense from a reads perspective if he were scum

So what? Gamma is fake claiming?

[NorwegianboyEE]

What.

Why i would be alligned with Aristeia.

[NorwegianboyEE]

Or it’s just a desperate final plea for why we shouldn’t lim Math.

[NorwegianboyEE]

can you explain the associatives?

Norwee: Gleefully wants me then Rean eliminated. He doesn't win a 1v1 against you so this makes no sense from norwee/rean partner.

You: You've been one of the main Rean critics. You could be scum with Rean because I've gotten vibes you might want to pivot to me but this feels less likely than just you trying to mislim him.

Y not. I won a 1v1 against scum!Ari.

[NorwegianboyEE]

In response to: "i don’t win 1v1"

[NorwegianboyEE]

I really wanted to keep playing.
Also i think killing Koba was a smart move in theory. It is easy to say: "Just don’t kill VT xD" afterwards, but consider that Koba did genuinely play very different in this game and that made me and Math think it was because they were PR.