In post 2267, Menalque wrote:You’re attempting to redirect the wagon back towards me for what I think are very poor reasons and if bloodhail is town then you’ve also been fencesitting and allowing a t/t conflict to play out most of the day
I don’t see why you would be doing differently as scum here when you’re not in any danger and the more slots you can keep viable going into D2/D3 the better for you
3 people have said my reasons are very valid and they can't all be scum with me
People being wrong, especially when one of those people, if town, has been tunnelled on me for most of the day, is not unexpected
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Post #2281 (isolation #205) » Fri May 20, 2022 9:46 am
Postby Menalque »
In post 2272, Aristeia wrote:it's borderline ridiculous for you to think I would defuse a datisi-bloodhail t/t fight 2 hours before d1 deadline by hard shoving you out of nowhere with a bullshit argument I'm not bad at playing scum and you should know this.
This makes perfect sense for you to do as scum because it conserves the t/t datisi/bloodhail fight for tomorrow
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Post #2286 (isolation #207) » Fri May 20, 2022 9:51 am
Postby Menalque »
There is no guarantee that two town elims happen and we both know that your approach as scum is to just survive the day
It doesn’t matter if you burn towncred mislimming me if there is then a big t/t fight the next day because whoever “wins” on D2 also looks bad on D3 and towns have notoriously awful memories so are even less likely to remember that you killed town on D1
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Post #2290 (isolation #209) » Fri May 20, 2022 9:53 am
Postby Menalque »
In post 2288, fireisredsir wrote:if her approach is to just survive the day then there's no reason to do this????
Sorry, to be clear
There’s a difference between long term planning shit out
And not thinking about the future at all
It is clearly advantageous to conserve a t/t fight for the following day
Ari doesn’t think about exactly who she’s going to bring to elo, but she does obviously see that some things will be advantageous on future days and others won’t
In post 2272, Aristeia wrote:it's borderline ridiculous for you to think I would defuse a datisi-bloodhail t/t fight 2 hours before d1 deadline by hard shoving you out of nowhere with a bullshit argument I'm not bad at playing scum and you should know this.
why not?
i was going to comment that saving me/bh for tomorrow would be a possible play so i don't get what's so impossible about this from you
saving mena for later is also a possible play and requires much less taking obvious noticeable action
If Ari is scum and datisi/bloodhail are t/t, do you really think that Ari is going to get me to vote skitter over her or get skitter to vote me over her?
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Post #2300 (isolation #212) » Fri May 20, 2022 9:56 am
Postby Menalque »
In post 2293, bloodhail wrote:i am really supreme uncomfortable at the prospect of the wagon swinging off my top scumread and me having to go through this dance again day 2
i want people to either kill me today or just clear me because the one place i cannot stand to be is alive and perpetually stuck in the poe while getting the freezeout. i cannot live through that nonsense again
It would be pretty clearing for both of you if we flip Ari and she reds
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Post #2315 (isolation #216) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:01 am
Postby Menalque »
I’m going to choose to believe that you are being like this to try to redirect and make this about me as a person because you think it’s tactically the best way to survive and distract from yourself
I hope that it’s not because you are actually like this
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Post #2321 (isolation #218) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:03 am
Postby Menalque »
I don’t think you’re going to “fucking end” anyone because I’m just going to stop engaging with you while pointing out how this is exactly what you did last time I caught you as scum
And I’m assuming that ydrasse is watching thread and will lock it if you decide to get toxic
You evidently think you can get me killed either way and are quite possibly right! Which in either case invalidates the argument you’re trying to make in light of the aforementioned benefits to you of maintaining a t/t between dats/bh and avoiding a 5p elo where skitter and I are both in it with you
In post 2323, Menalque wrote:Datisi, tell me that this is not incredibly reminiscent of the most recent case where I was right on ari being scum?
you were wrong for 7 day phases before you finally stumbled into the right answer by POE because everyone else is a divergent player who is very easy to read shut the fuck up about KTANE
I was demonstrably correct for good reasons on you, and demonstrably had very strong reads into N1 even if I went wrong afterwards
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Post #2334 (isolation #223) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:12 am
Postby Menalque »
It’s game relevant because the last time I caught ari as scum her response was to rapidly shift into attacking my general abilities as a player and launching personal attacks
I think this is a behaviour which comes from her as scum and not as town because she feels that it’s acceptable to behave like this when it’s serving her wincon, and therefore is strongly scum indicative for her
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Post #2338 (isolation #224) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:14 am
Postby Menalque »
I would be more inclined to believe any of what you’re saying if it hadn’t all flowed out of my lack of being in game today and my 4 posts, and how weak that is for a player who is typically as good as you to think I’m scum for
you're the one being openly hostile towards me all game and flying directly into rage omgus mode as soon as I express suspicion of you.
am I really the one behaving unreasonably here?
the person you "bopped" as scum just decided he'd rather self vote and end the day rather than listen to any more of your fucking bullshit
I’ve been mildly hostile towards you and apologised. There are reasons for that and they are directly related to how you have behaved towards me, unprompted or to try and gain in-game advantage in recent games
I am very clearly not in “rage OMGUS mode” and I think that’s evident for anyone reading my posts — the things you’re saying are clearly much angrier and intended to be hurtful than anything I’ve said to you all game
That’s also not what bh said and they’ve been addressing both of us
In post 2334, Menalque wrote:It’s game relevant because the last time I caught ari as scum her response was to rapidly shift into attacking my general abilities as a player and launching personal attacks
I think this is a behaviour which comes from her as scum and not as town because she feels that it’s acceptable to behave like this when it’s serving her wincon, and therefore is strongly scum indicative for her
i dont think that is an exclusively scum behavior for ari, and in fact i know it isn't
Admittedly my memory may be bad but I cannot recall ari ever acting like this as town, at the very least towards me because I had, prior to my return to the site, thought we had a decent relationship
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Post #2397 (isolation #240) » Fri May 20, 2022 10:52 am
Postby Menalque »
In post 2394, skitter30 wrote:but the tldr is that idk why she swings to u suddenly at the eleventh hour here, when scum-her can just, like, not
@mena
if she's scum at least one of dats/bh is town and they were p close and i think (not sure/ didn't go back to check tho) that she's the deciding vote so
idk why she goes onto you
I’ve already said: this would conserve the dats/bh conflict for tomorrow and elo, whereas if not then she has to deal with you and me in elo which I think is significantly worse for scum!her and harder to win
She could also have plausibly believed that I wouldn’t check in to thread again before deadline given my general inactivity, which would therefore minimise the risk of me responding
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Post #2421 (isolation #247) » Fri May 20, 2022 11:01 am
Postby Menalque »
In post 2317, Aristeia wrote:the fact that you are accusing me of hypocrisy when you have been far more hostile towards me than I have been towards you is just mindboggling to me.
I have never wanted to veer off into AtE this game but if you want to have a shit fight I will fucking end you
In post 2416, Aristeia wrote:like if u really want to flip me dear just tell me and ill self vote i dont really want to be here either
Try to tell me that these two posts come from someone who is engaging with the game in a genuine way, I’ll wait
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Post #3155 (isolation #253) » Thu Jun 02, 2022 1:36 am
Postby Menalque »
gg wp scum
thanks ydra for modding, sorry for subbing out but I didn't want to keep playing and wasn't willing to put myself through it
I thought it was Roden by the end fwiw, based on a bad tell that I'm now disregarding, although gratifying to see that I wasn't being delusional with my D1 StD read before that
to reiterate again here in post: Ari, please avoid future games with me on any of your accounts including your main, thanks.