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In post 77, Nona1510 wrote:hello, no reads yet really but don’t really understand the scumreads on either Una or Elements?
I call Lamist on this one
You clearly don’t understand the term if that’s your take on this.
idk, maybe?
I view a post lamist that has lots shallow reads with filler to look like a slot is high efforting when it’s mostly spam and busywork but not actually genuinely trying to solve anything.
I’d ask why but I don’t even understand what that means. Level 0 is something people say when they think a read is shallow and I have only made one read so far on a single post and it could possibly qualify as that but it’s generally something town tends to do more than scum.
In post 93, Elements wrote:I like Pavowski for town
I want to tr nona but those three posts could easily be from scum
And Pavowski's grand total of eight posts could not come from scum?
It is so weird to shade somebody for only having 8 posts at this point in the game. What are we, like, sixteen hours in?
I mean there would be more but nobody was around to meme with last night
It's ok, I'll prove to you that I'm town soon enough
Unless you know it already
Cheeky bunny
It came out prickly, but the intention was to ask Elements about the apparent inconsistency in her reads, not to shade you. I have no problem with your posting so far.
In post 109, innocentvillager wrote:Ok Elements I guess I’ll just ask you directly. I remember you as mostly a lurker/low content slot why does it feel like you’re extra engaged this game so far
I took a hiatus for a couple of years, now I'm back with energy. Still excited for more mafia after the game that ended that Aisa was in and be got bamboozled
This is, in fact, my working theory about you so far.
Also same, except I'm back with an extra dose of cynicism and paranoia. Maybe I can be the biggest downer and joy killer in this game?
Here is another “0 level read” of mine. I also like this post as well. I like that Aisa is asking the reasoning for Elements’ different takes on me and Pavowski and clarifying that her questioning has more to do with Elements’ takes than her read on either me or Pavowski.
I’d ask why but I don’t even understand what that means. Level 0 is something people say when they think a read is shallow and I have only made one read so far on a single post and it could possibly qualify as that but it’s generally something town tends to do more than scum.
That's not exactly what I mean by level zero. I mean it in terms of WIFOM or irony layers or such. Level 0 is attacking with grizzly bears, level 1 is "destroy target attacking bear", level 2 is "summon 10 bears if a bear has died". Level zero is usually simpler or easier but not necessarily, the level zero thing can be easy to miss.
I think low information phase has both alignments playing on 0 and 1 mostly and scum skewed somewhat towards zero.
It's a pretty abstract thing
I still have 0 level clue what you’re talking about. I do find it curious that you think my trying to make reads feels scummy to you, since I think my reasons for those reads was pretty logical and reasonable for this early in the game. So yes, I’m pretty baffled by it.
In post 136, Una wrote:Maybe I'm picking up what Junko is and using diff words
And how can I tell that is real and not shade because I especially think your take on 126 makes absolutely no sense to me?
Also, I hadn’t given any reads when Junko misunderstood my posting as “lamist” but you made take after I did that, so I don’t see how it’s even similar?
If you’re town here Una, your read on me is wrong. Yes, I don’t expect that to convince anyone of anything.
I’m just not understanding how my posting is being completely mischaracterized. It really baffles me.
I don’t see how that is an accurate description of any of my posting but especially 126.
"Look at me, I'm so town!" (+1.0)
It's the so-called LAMIST tell and it's still relevant enough to have its own acronym! Newbscum usually are very concerned with 'looking good' to avoid falling under suspicion, but don't know how to fake-scumhunt.
Instead, they will do things like pushing the lurkers to contribute, trying to "resuscitate" them by voting them, asking for reads on themselves, talking a lot about the game itself (this is called IIoA),
claiming they are doing anything in their power to get information.
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Post #158 (isolation #18) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 8:25 am
Postby Nona1510 »
In post 153, Una wrote:Both scum and town would clarify a point. Miscommunication benefits every alignment except maybe jester.
So it's like a post pointing out someone is nice and helpful to clear comms but not actually commenting on her alignment. Or only doing so by acknowledging niceness and logic jumping to townness
That’s not at all what I did. I liked that she was asking Elements to explain his different reads. I didn’t suggest that what she was doing was either “nice” or “helpful”.
In post 153, Una wrote:Both scum and town would clarify a point. Miscommunication benefits every alignment except maybe jester.
So it's like a post pointing out someone is nice and helpful to clear comms but not actually commenting on her alignment. Or only doing so by acknowledging niceness and logic jumping to townness
That’s not at all what I did. I liked that she was asking Elements to explain his different reads. I didn’t suggest that what she was doing was either “nice” or “helpful”.
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Post #207 (isolation #22) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:01 pm
Postby Nona1510 »
In post 194, Una wrote:Is it rly just me about Nona maybe I should take fifteen or sth bluh
Maybe Moon could be right? But I’m still worried. Because if anyone’s using 0 level analysis here, it’s you.
Because you still haven’t given me a specific reason and am not paying attention to my posts debunking what you said.
I also agree with Moon on Junko and Dann, both could be town but I feel better about Junko. I’m not sr Dann and the unvote does look +town but I would need more from Dann to tr him than that.
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Post #217 (isolation #25) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:27 pm
Postby Nona1510 »
In post 215, Una wrote:You've like successfully made me feel unconfident about my original shade but also reacted overall in a way that doesn't scream townie
You like droned on for two pages and counter e1ed someone who didn't even vote you lol
Why would you not voting me affect anything?
I like that you claim to be unconfident however but I want to see you analyze my posts where I debunk everything you said.
And how is my reaction not townie? You’re either wrongly sr me or shading me for reasons that are bad. I’m obviously not going to say hey great take when I both know and think it’s not.
In a nutshell, you’re read on me is bad but Moon could be right that could be the reason I could also be wrong but meh.
In post 194, Una wrote:Is it rly just me about Nona maybe I should take fifteen or sth bluh[/Maybe Moon could be right? But I’m still worried. Because if anyone’s using 0 level analysis here, it’s you.
Because you still haven’t given me a specific reason and am not paying attention to my posts debunking what you said.
I also agree with Moon on Junko and Dann, both could be town but I feel better about Junko. I’m not sr Dann and the unvote does look +town but I would need more from Dann to tr him than that.
In post 194, Una wrote:Is it rly just me about Nona maybe I should take fifteen or sth bluh[/Maybe Moon could be right? But I’m still worried. Because if anyone’s using 0 level analysis here, it’s you.
Because you still haven’t given me a specific reason and am not paying attention to my posts debunking what you said.
I also agree with Moon on Junko and Dann, both could be town but I feel better about Junko. I’m not sr Dann and the unvote does look +town but I would need more from Dann to tr him than that.
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Post #221 (isolation #29) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:35 pm
Postby Nona1510 »
In post 215, Una wrote:You've like successfully made me feel unconfident about my original shade but also reacted overall in a way that doesn't scream townie
You like droned on for two pages and counter e1ed someone who didn't even vote you lol
In post 194, Una wrote:Is it rly just me about Nona maybe I should take fifteen or sth bluh
Maybe Moon could be right? But I’m still worried. Because if anyone’s using 0 level analysis here, it’s you.
Because you still haven’t given me a specific reason and am not paying attention to my posts debunking what you said.
I also agree with Moon on Junko and Dann, both could be town but I feel better about Junko. I’m not sr Dann and the unvote does look +town but I would need more from Dann to tr him than that.
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Post #229 (isolation #32) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 12:48 pm
Postby Nona1510 »
And she clearly has contributed, so even if you somehow misread her saying what she said as requesting votes, she clearly has contributed. If you townlean her, you should be voting elsewhere.
So you like Una for town now? Did you like her for scum before?
Her push on me was bad but I could see it maybe coming from wrongly tunnelled town. I wouldn’t say I currently tr her but no longer felt confident in my voting her. Her reaction to my pushback wasn’t terrible.
Scum generally get flustered when they get called out or double, triple down. I’d say she’s currently a null for me rn.
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Post #239 (isolation #38) » Fri Nov 18, 2022 1:37 pm
Postby Nona1510 »
A combination of the two but mostly from the thread. Dann’s probably more meta and the reason I have him lower than Una is I like her better tonally. Dann’s posting looks better but tonally he sounds worse and I think him unvoting looks townie but I could also see scum!him doing that to look townie.
I think that Dann and Una look unaligned. IV feels extremely awkward and self-conscious. Like his reasoning for voting Una is obviously wrong yet, he hasn’t unvoted her. Like straight up, if you sr her, vote her and if you tl her, unvote.
In post 239, Nona1510 wrote:I think that Dann and Una look unaligned. IV feels extremely awkward and self-conscious. Like his reasoning for voting Una is obviously wrong yet, he hasn’t unvoted her. Like straight up, if you sr her, vote her and if you tl her, unvote.
See I would disagree on IV -- I just don't think he's gonna get that uptight right off the gun.
Sorry I have Star Trek playing in the background and the episode started off in German or some such nonsense and it almost broke my brain, because I am going on a magical mystery tour over here
I’ve never played with him before but I did metadive him and he seemed to be pretty competent as scum but I just think he shouldn’t be voteparked on a slot he claims to tl.
In post 300, Pavowski wrote:Ok Elements, what are your thoughts on Moon, and/or what are your thoughts on Moon being e-2?
I think Moon is prob town.
2? of the votes of Moon are about her not being Ydrasse so idk what to think about that
+1
Need to catch up but that wagon is horrible. That slot is really obvtown.
Elements is also town. These two players should never be wagoned.
Pavowski, Moon is probably still Ydrasse but even if she isn’t, what is scum!Moon’s possible motive for claiming to lie about that? How does that further some kind of scum agenda in your mind? I’m well aware of lim all liars - if it even is an actual lie and not what I’m more inclined to view as probable trolling - but that’s a terrible reason for voting her.
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Post #312 (isolation #44) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 11:55 am
Postby Nona1510 »
In post 304, Pavowski wrote:Just reminding all of us that when Una was e-1 Dann unvoted in record time, so all "Una should have been hammered if ..." arguments are moot and probably not helpful
Pavowski’s also probably town.
I probably like Dann more than Una now but idk, I’ve seen scum!Dann powerwolf on an obvtown slot before, eventhough he actually sounds pretty sincere but his push.
I think Moon, Elements and Pavowski are all probably town here.
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Post #318 (isolation #45) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 12:05 pm
Postby Nona1510 »
In post 269, Dannflor wrote:Moonview, your posts do not seem like real thoughts to me. I feel like you’re forcing almost every single post you make. There’s like this anxious energy of needing to fit in and vibe with the thread that I’ve never seen from town!you, you are always at least a bit more casual and twirly as town. It reminds me a lot of that one scum game from Team Mafia actually, where it felt like you were always playing more to pocket than anything else
I realize some of this is you using Capital Letters but I don’t think that explains you forcing things this much
People don’t always play the same way every game. Sometimes you really like a game and are super invested in it and other times you just don’t vibe with it, so I don’t think being invested or not invested is necessarily ai. I’m extremely invested in some games and don’t really care about others and that isn’t ai.
In post 21, Moonview wrote:And yeah it's a common belief that there are no train stations in Antarctica but I think that's just what Aisa wants us to believe.
Are you saying there's some sort of conspiracy theory?
Absolutely. Trust no one.
I'm thinking Antarctica is some sort of industrial wasteland. that's why it seems so empty and barren but in actual fact there are many many train stations hidden under the ice.
Mayhaps it used to be on the equator but some catastrophy hit and resulted in and earth being rotated 90 degrees on its axis so now it's at the pole. and Aisa is secretly a time travelling being and knows all this.
I like this! I think that it makes more sense if instread of a catastrophe happening, the civilisation that reached industrial technology was just super ancient. So it can be explained that Antarctica used to be habitable, and a civilisation had emerged there that utilised rail travel, but got wiped out, like what happened to the civilisation in the Indus Valley.
Aisa would have to be a time traveller yeah. Maybe they were just on the verge of time travel technology and Aisa was a scientist researching it who escaped disaster by fleeing into today's world.
If Moon is Ydrasse then this post is definitely nia.
If Dann has played with Ydrasse before and he’s sr her for making one non-game relevant post, I’d find that concerning. If the majority of her posts were like that, then I’d actually understand this better but most of them have been solvey. I would say that’s true for pretty much anyone.
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Post #338 (isolation #49) » Sat Nov 19, 2022 2:59 pm
Postby Nona1510 »
Aisa, I would like some reads please. I just reread your iso and much of it reads like you just asking questions and not actually pursuing anything and now your take on Moon, Dann looks like more hedging and why are you only focusing on a single post of mine, which neither yours or Una’s take which you describe as “nitpicky” isn’t even accurate.
I think this could possibly be scum!Aisa here since town!Aisa seems to try hard to solve, has better defined opinions on things and this me v Una thing just reads to me like out of left field.
In post 624, JunkoChan wrote:Una vote dann or i'll vote You, i'm not waiting 7 days
Don’t really like this.
My reads currently
Una, most likely to be town, then Dann, than Gth, I think Junko. 49 could be distancing but this vote shouldn’t be rushed.
I think 624 sounds more like a scumpost than a townpost. I think Una is probably the least likely to have treestumped me. Junko probably the most likely. At any rate, I don’t townread 624. I saw scum try to rush elo once, so that’s never a good look. Good luck to town.
If I weren’t a stump, I wouldn’t rush the day and take as long as needed but if I could vote and had to vote rn, I’d probably vote Junko because all scum needs is one vote on anyone and Junko also not caring whether or not it’s Dann or Una is also bad.
In post 593, Dannflor wrote:I think I'll shut up now I don't think I'm helping
Regardless of your alignment I'm inclined towards voting you and so is Junko so talking can only reroll the game state and help you right
Yeah, this post is probably the worst, I guess I was wrong then. I guess if someone who isn’t a newb scumreads me for really bad reasons, they’re probably scum.
Yeah gg scum, sorry Aisa, I actually thought your posts prior to your lim looked townie but you had already been hammered by the time I checked the thread.
