Micro 1078: Datisi's micro normals are back [game over]

[VP Baltar]

I'm here and willing to shift to osuka if you feel very bad about this skitter.

I find this latest from meuh slight AtE, but I tend to be overly jaded about those kinds of appeals.

[VP Baltar]

The most datisi flavor ever

[VP Baltar]

Well time to throw out all preconceived notions.

I'd like each of you to towncase yourself please while I continue to do rereading. (Which, let's be real, will probably happen tomorrow due to my busy schedule today)

[VP Baltar]

I don't need to towncase myself for my sake. If you'd like me to for you, I'm happy to do that

[VP Baltar]

Did you do any reading overnight tris?

[VP Baltar]

i vehemently believe that towncasing oneself is a stupid exercise in pointlessness, but i’ll entertain it in a few hours when i get off work

I appreciate you humoring me. It's helpful for me making a decision to know why I should think either of you is town from your own perspective. I think there are reasonable arguments either way, so curious why each of you think I should not be swayed

[VP Baltar]

i just see no reason for skygazer to push on osuka like they did if they're partners

on the other hand, i can believe baltar/skygazer as a partnership

It's fairly hard for me to believe you think I'm a plausible partner for sky. They did nothing but push me all game and I was the one who started their wagon D2 before there was even a guilty by fire.

[VP Baltar]

what did they do to push you other than say vibes

Voted me to E-1 on D1

[VP Baltar]

Like, sky clearly wanted me dead more than anyone. Not like they were pushing anyone particularly hard this game. I think I was the hardest actually pushed by sky

[VP Baltar]

Scum mixer be serving pickles and orange juice

[VP Baltar]

Like, sky clearly wanted me dead more than anyone. Not like they were pushing anyone particularly hard this game. I think I was the hardest actually pushed by sky

when they pushed on osuka, they had actual reasons. the vote to E-1 was at the head of a bandwagon that had already formed, and possibly served to make the wagon sketchier looking.

Like I said yesterday tho, it was really only meuh's bail on the wagon that stopped it. And I don't think you can say meuh found sky sketchy. She was backing sky right up until the moment they were yeeted.

It was pure chance that wagon on me fell apart. Sky would have clearly been happy with it.

What are these osuka reasons you find genuine?

[VP Baltar]

I don't see how that isn't just basic theater in a scum!osuka world.

[VP Baltar]

I remember it as an objectively weird thing to say, so not surprising anyone would call it out. Like if I'm scum with someone, I wouldn't be afraid to call obv weird things out.

I don't know if you're biased, but I find this not that disassociative personally

[VP Baltar]

So you think sky was truly the reason osuka grew to where it did?

[VP Baltar]

You did. Just confirming this is the story you're actually sticking to

[VP Baltar]

@tris - I went back and read that section with osuka again, and I think you're kind of making shit up. Fireisredsir was the one doing all the work throughout that section. It was pretty obvious that what osuka said about saving me was bizarre in its own right, so if sky was paired with osuka, it wouldn't be that unusual to call that out as a distance.

The fact that you think that's incontrovertible evidence they don't share alignment is giving me very bad vibes that you came into today with an anti-VP agenda and you're trying to play on a point personal to osuka as a way to get a vote against me.

I'd still like you to tell me the reasons you think I should be town reading you.

(Just to clarify, by towncase I don't mean people need to write a wall. You can just list some points with facts from the game. I'm capable of assessing my agreement without anyone needing to pull a bunch of posts)

[VP Baltar]

Tris has had many convincing town slips that are unlikely to be fake imo

@baltar what about this one?

You asking what I was thinking or why I'm questioning tris now?

[VP Baltar]

why you're questioning tris now. what changed?

It's endgame, so i try not to bias myself and keep the questions open to see if I've been wrong this game (which clearly I have so far on some stuff)

Sounds like you know the slips I was talking about. I believe at the time I said they could be good scum play by tris intended to look like confusion tho. So I'm considering that.

My main thing is that tris feels a little agenda driven coming into today, which I really don't like.

[VP Baltar]

osuka's going to townread me because i say he's town?

Yes, this would be scumplay 101. Try to get someone to townread you because you're not pressuring them at all in the game. How is that nonsense to you? I think your reasons for non-associating sky and osuka are overstated at the very least. I think osuka has more of the truth of it by saying he is essentially very null this game by being disengaged. That's harder to sort, and certainly not disassociative just because sky made one point that fire pushed hard.

[VP Baltar]

unless anyone wants to start a tris wagon but thats like a weaker read for me

uhh how would we feel on a tris compromise

Going through sky's ISO and seeing these are the only two tris criticisms as well. : /

Soft shading without any actual desire to lim there....maybe it really is just tris. I'm always reluctant to believe scum strategy is basically just "lurk", but I guess sometimes it do just be like that.

[VP Baltar]

Tris are you going to do this, or...

[VP Baltar]

VOTE: tris

Alright, here goes nothing.

[VP Baltar]

you don't want to see what i post first?

This is silly. I've been waiting for days now for you to post. And yet, the second I vote, you're suddenly right in thread and ready to go.

I think you're probably lurking hoping for something else to happen that isn't talking about you, and then you planned to come back.

[VP Baltar]

baltar's scumread of meuh on day 1 feels really fake to me. i see zero effort to actually understand and sort her. i get the impression he decided he was going to scumread her and then built his points from there.

im really biased, but baltar's shift over to me feels very scum motivated. since he'll have a much easier time getting osuka to vote me than me to vote osuka. the reasons seem to be heavily based on today. its weird that he thinks that going after him is the scum thing to do when im having to fight an uphill battle to convince osuka here.

And like, this is the case for me scum? The first point is so incredibly vague and the second post just reads like omgus.

I didn't come into today with an agenda at all. I poked at each of you to see what would show, and your reaction to that has been very scummy. Further, I don't think you ever considered osuka genuinely in the slightest. So who really has the agenda here?

[VP Baltar]

Wooooo!

Thanks everyone and sorry osuka and tris. I still love you both and I'm a bastard

[VP Baltar]

Thanks datisi for modding and making play m*fia

[VP Baltar]

And thank you skygazer for being a great partner who let me yolo bus to victory

[VP Baltar]

Dead PT gib

[VP Baltar]

do you have any redactions

no. I want everyone to see when I called you a cop

[VP Baltar]

gg though, it was fun! this might be the worst i’ve ever been pocketed

Really? I thought you were going to flip on me at any point. I was just banking on your bias against tris getting me through.

[VP Baltar]

Yeah, early game was touch and go for me. I thought I wasn't going to make it past like D2

[VP Baltar]

is that elaboratable

Lol hellbrooks for president

[VP Baltar]

Too pretty to live, sorry

[VP Baltar]

I was hoping fire would be malding when I justified the Meuh lim with their dead corpse

[VP Baltar]

the moment meuh flipped town, i knew i was toast. wish i had been more engaged on day 3

you can see me praying in the dead thread that you didn't come back with a heater and super engagement. It would have been gg scum loss if that had happened because you were right and I didn't have strong arguments to fight you off.

[VP Baltar]

another baltar page top.

otters are good also, agree

[VP Baltar]

Nutria?

[VP Baltar]

Tis merely a flesh wound

[VP Baltar]

Happy birthday skitter!