Micro 1078: Datisi's micro normals are back [game over]

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we don't have to right away but my vote isn't moving

will have more time later, i wanna reread with that in mind in case i die

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kinda feel like it's just osuka but we'll see

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like i am very confident here skygazer is scum

Why are u so confident she's scum?

hardclaim she is not VT

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id probably go osuka -> meuh after but again would like to reread things

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smh should have stuck with it and joined the firebaltar truthers

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that is actually a pretty good reaction however unfortunately if my partner is poised to win easily and i am also scum then we can just win normally lol

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yeah idk it's a head scratcher i cant figure out why you'd do that

just bored i guess, what can i say!!!

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i am not

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mmm couldn't resist and did a quick skim and maybe less sold on it for sure being in osuka/meuh

y'all can figure it out tho i believe in you

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this is not an inference

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lol

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i don't think anyone will believe it anyway but there's no way that claiming ascetic wouldn't be your immediate reaction to me saying you aren't a VT

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Fire i think u should claim too

i only claimed as much as i did to make sure that we yeet skygazer, id rather not say any more bc i don't think we need to

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@mod: my understanding is that vengeful is normal if and only if it is town-aligned. can you confirm that town-aligned vengeful is normal?

what does asking this accomplish

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glad im rereading bc i had forgotten about my mayonnaise club dream. very important. must remember this

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still rereading but feeling pretty confident that skitter's always town here

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i don't think anyone will believe it anyway but there's no way that claiming ascetic wouldn't be your immediate reaction to me saying you aren't a VT

this is blatantly untrue? my claim didn't matter bc i knew u were lying and im pretty cagey w outting. there was also an element of knowing itd look sus if i changed my claim so i figured itd be better optics wise to just stick with the vt claim. only outted bc i got accused of fishing and wanted to provide explanation.

lol if you were ascetic then i wouldn't be lying. my saying you weren't VT would be correct

at that time the most likely explanation fypov would be that i got a no result on you or something, and there's no reason for you to assume i must be scum faking it (especially when you shortly after came to the correct realization that there would be no motivation for me to do that as scum here)

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you asking to clarify about that wouldn't come significantly later as an "oh wait what if" moment though, it would be a more immediate reaction

you're right that this argument is pointless tho

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omg, i cant believe i didnt read 896 until now.

i think people missed it yea

their loss

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you're very talented at painting

aww thanks!! i haven't done it very much but im glad u think i have potential

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Fire, why are you wasting your breath arguing with caught scum lol

honestly its bc she's trying and i respect that and it feels rude to just ignore that

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there's literally no action that i can see that we will take differently as a result of the answer to that question so i don't see the point of it and it looks like busy work pretending to have a town mindset

i wanted you to explain why you were asking it so that i could see if i was wrong in that judgement due to missing some usefulness of it

i would prefer it if you try not to be extremely rude for no reason all the time thanks!!

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i have a few points in the game that id like to get to before we flip but if y'all get bored and do it anyway i won't be upset or anything i don't think its fully necessary

the points of interest im looking for are the place where things drifted towards skygazer for a bit and then the wagon disappeared, the place where baltar started pushing back against her, and the time from when i voted her until like end of day

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so if i die or whatever idk just look at those places yourself

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osuka actually kinda towny on page 30/31

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there's an interesting bit on page 34 where baltar is trying to pull people away from the hellbooks wagon while skygazer is doubling down on it

i think it's townpoints

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before i go ahead and catchup here are some q's sorry if these have already been adressed/are horribly out of date at this point.

fire:

wrt 986, i'm curious how your approach differs from that.

skitter:

could you describe the history of your read on meuh?

not a question, but noting that everyone on the osuka wagon was town probably.

its more about what he's trying to do id say

i think he can be kinda unreasonable as either alignment and i don't always agree with the logic of his takes

but as town there's more actual thought and depth behind them and the things that he's doing are trying to accomplish town goals. building cohesion, getting info, solving the game

as scum he does a lot of things that he doesn't really care about and then drops them quickly and forgets that he was ever pretending it was meaningful. especially getting in pointless arguments for the sake of it and questioning things without being interested in the answer

i felt a decent amount of that in the early part of the game, and still kinda do on reread. the part where he started to push back on skygazer and also try to derail the hellbrooks wagon (where im at now, around p34) feels more likely to be town i think. will be interested to see how things progress from there

game is easy if he's clear but im not confident on doing that despite skygazer lolpushing him most of the game. he's def behind meuh and osuka for me tho

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Skygazer

 - This slot is INSANE in an iso. Literally just sheeping opportunistically onto me constantly and doesn't have a reason why she thinks I'm scum? If the scum pair includes 1 active player and 1 lurker, I'd put Skygazer at high equity for the latter. Unlike Osuka and Tris, I can't see skygazer's intentions at all. She has the same opportunism toward hellbrooks as she had toward me earlier in the game (and with the recent vote). Would lim before elo 110/10 times.

mmm ok got to this post and my memory was correct in thinking that i wouldn't really like it

there's a weird implication going on here that he hasn't really tried to sort skygazer until now which i think is true

i also would expect the push to be stronger given what the read seems to be but instead its just "lim before elo" which is... odd

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i kinda wanna do this VOTE: skygazer

This would be a good compromise wagon if people aren't willing to lim fire today.

this is also strangely measured

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skygazer jumping on osuka is maybe anti-partner-y. did more to push him there than she really ever did for baltar

maybe meuh>baltar>osuka

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probably!

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alright ive read, final answer is meuh but idk i could be wrong

really don't think it's skitter or tris tho

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wp scum!!

a true "vig baltar " moment

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let's keep posting and then stop at 2168 so that cakez gets it with his threadlock post

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otters and whales underrated

humans overrated