Micro 1083: Garlic Bread Heist! (Game Over)

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let's get that bread

VOTE: baltar

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you can trust me this game!

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Spoiler: thoughts so far

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i think it's more likely to prove i suffer from dysgraphia

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ausuka in shambles

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I'm planning on making a concerted effort to move away from rapid fire spam posting this game and move towards "unhinged whiteboarding screenshots"

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uh haha yeah i'll do that too

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i've deciphered hellbooks' secret message

T - tris
R - really
A - aint
I - into being
T - town
O - or
R - robbing garlic bread

thanks for letting me know who your buddy is!!

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why are youreyes shifting like that.... you told me i could trust you.......

oh uh whoops i'll keep my eyes more static!!

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My Read Is based On Tonal Smell

well i did finally buy deodorant today

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garlic bread can be town

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i didnt initially like GB's town read on me but tone makes sense for reasoning

i like my baltar vote now more and not bc i'm bussing him again hahaha

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tris: i think GB was mindmelding with you on what you said about baltar and then went on to explain how their read on me differs from baltar's read on me

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my activity levels are NAI and i'm trying to get better about posting consistently

see schadds large normal and brass and shrapnel

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my guess for this alt is Isis or HPE.

Wide guess range.

HPE?

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Who is HPE tho

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VOTE: xof

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limited access today

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micros are the best tbh

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hellbooks can we be enemies this game

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i don't think so, they don't feel very different to me (but meta reads that boil down to personality stuff aren't good meta reads anyways) but i mean i didn't pay too close attention to their posts that game either

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i would dread to play on your home website if this is considered "not playing"

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i'm not even trying to vibe instead of play i just had a busy day lol

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most of why I play on MS instead of MU is simply because of the longer deadlines/more breathing room

i saw a post there about someone taking time off work to mod a game or something and i was like huh lmao

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i think that trying to push people to play outside of their pace is likely a losing battle lol

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Just post at work. Your boss loves it

my boss doesn't care what i do if i close all my tickets in a timely fashion

but we're down half our team for a bit rip

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i don't think so, they don't feel very different to me (but meta reads that boil down to personality stuff aren't good meta reads anyways) but i mean i didn't pay too close attention to their posts that game either

I am broken.

I'm surprised though. I came into this game like "oh cool, should be an easy first read, I'll watch skygazer immediately. " you didn't consider something similar?

i think it's a product of not reading your posts *super closely* bc we were teammates combined with shit memory and too busy to go back and reread today. me trying to meta read people is also generally unreliable so i try to suppress the urge

i did have a blast rolling scum w you!

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bully me if i don't post more tomorrow gn all~

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bully me if i don't post more tomorrow gn all~

it's still today!! work has been one disaster after another

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generally i have a lot more downtime especially during the summer but this week is goin horribly so far

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all this speculation is pointless bc i'm town

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speculating on whether or not someone with meta on me could read me strongly or whatever

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if this is just how xof plays i'll probably reevaluate my vote

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hellbooks is in my PoE but i'm finding it really hard to vote her

i feel like she's playing like she did in datisi's game but like hamming it up more if that makes sense? kinda feel like she'd change it up a bit considering she got miselimmed there? at the same time i feel like if she rolled scum she'd avoid playing in the way that got her miselimmed? this is why i said i try not to do meta i guess

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alisae is hard for me to get a read on here as well

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i could see sheep scum but they feel like the Easiest™ choice right now which i'm kind of naturally averse to

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It Also Matches Scum Sheep MO

what did you glean about their scum play off the game they linked?

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It Also Matches Scum Sheep MO

what did you glean about their scum play off the game they linked?

I Am Avoiding This Question Sorry, You Will Not Get an Answer

i am thoroughly disappointed

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In fact i also wanted to call that out: saying that im "hamming it up" does not in fact make sense. Im just like being myself

If i were to sign up for a game with an intention to adopt a posting policy anxious of how people see me i wouldnt have signed up in the first place bc it wouldnt have been any fun for me

perhaps the shitposting just feels less natural to me this time around not knowing your alignment? idk how to explain it well but this post makes me feel like im barking up the wrong tree

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also I've been on this site almost two decades. I don't think I've ever seen someone breadcrumb a read before.

ironically i just saw a player breadcrumb a read but it was in the context of "hey i'm hinting that i'm vigging this player tonight"

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i think the main thing that pinged me about hellbooks posting is the second attempt at a booby trap but she could just be sad no one got mustarded. in my head it was possibly a "try to appear natural by replicating what i did last game" kinda thing but the more i type out the more im realizing im reaching but watch me hit "Submit" anyways

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someone give me something to think about pls

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someone give me something to think about pls

Bread with Garlic

i need to think about you more. sometimes i fall into the trap of "oh this player is leading the thread and posting a lot" and chuck em in the town bin

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someone give me something to think about pls

How would you say sheep's play this game compares to that game he linked, since you were in that?

doesn't feel that different but like i said im trying to get away from meta reads bc honestly a lot of the time it just winds up being me looking at differences in personality/vibe which is generally not the right thing to look for

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someone give me something to think about pls

How would you say sheep's play this game compares to that game he linked, since you were in that?

doesn't feel that different but like i said im trying to get away from meta reads bc honestly a lot of the time it just winds up being me looking at differences in personality/vibe which is generally not the right thing to look for

Unexpected tbh.

I was reading that game this morning and it actually feels markedly different to me. In that game, sheep comes across as trying to have a logical reason for his moves. Whereas this game, he's just like "vibes lolidk"

That type of awareness of how you're going to look is something I do expect scum to be more concerned about, generally speaking.

Was hoping you'd see the same thing.

UNVOTE:

to be fair i was too lazy to go back and look at that game so mostly went off of memory. i think that's a decent take if it's true

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it's funny bc last game i was like "why are they killing her!! she's so townie!!" and now i'm like oh i see why

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it wouldve been nicer if u said something villagery

enlighten me on how to villager post

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it's okay i'm easily forgetable

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it's funny bc last game i was like "why are they killing her!! she's so townie!!" and now i'm like oh i see why

What do you think her alignment is?

i'm torn tbh. she feels less present here for sure in the face of pressure (gah stop with the meta @ myself). on the other hand she's funny and i have a natural inclination to not vote for funny ppl

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it's okay i'm easily forgetable

O u r above shea

i'll accept that

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i'll trust shea's ali read for now

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tris could you expand upon your garlic read?

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gah i think i might vote hellbooks

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someone keeps leaving sticky notes around my house that say "don't trust hellbooks."

also this smoke detector looking thing keeps beeping but there's nothing is on fire

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Why shouldn't we trust hellbrooks? I think her most recent posting is probably a little AtE, but it doesn't read as deceptive to me.

I think hellbrooks is being set up as mislim bait a bit, and I'm kind of surprised you're not more skeptical of that given that's exactly what we just did in Datisi's game.

idk I'm not the one leaving the sticky notes

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more serious answer: that was mostly just a joke referring to the toxic fumes thing. i'm not sure if it was an obvious enough joke for me to start screaming "nsg tell!! nsg tell!!"

who do you think is trying to set up hellbooks for a miselim? i'm not sure how you can be that confident about hellbooks town and it feels kinda white knighty. as i've said before i'm pretty "Not Sure" about her at the moment

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My biggest concern about garlic is actually the PR fishing

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My biggest concern about garlic is actually the PR fishing

i think thats the single shining townpoint for me, funnily enough

are you looking at it as like "uninhibited" or something? thats where im at w it, but that combined with the thread control is enough to give me a little pause

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baltar is funny yes

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damn i'm really slacking on the whole whiteboarding idea

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does anybody care if i live tweet my course evaluations in this thread?

i'm gonna go for it

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so on top of my main gig i just finished teaching a live sound class at a community college

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first thing that jumps out is my lowest metric: "the assignments were intellectually challenging," in which i got a 3.1 out of 5. honestly that's not a very important metric because it was a 100 level class where a lot of them had strong DIY backgrounds

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the second lowest metric, and one which matters a bit more in my mind, was "instructor seemed prepared for class." that one was a 4.1 (also out of 5. all of these are out of 5). honestly checks out and i thought that'd be lower if we're being honest.

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second lowest was "instructor makes good use of class time." that one was a 4.3, most of the complaints were that i was late a lot (i got the go ahead to start at 6 instead of 5:45 (and told them that, in fact) because of my commute but the course schedule still said 5:45 and a couple students thought that was immutable for some reason) or that i was lax on late students

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amusingly the course evaluation page offers to generate a word cloud of my reviews and the only thing it came up with was

it's

hands

time

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"hands" probably comes from the praise of the hands on nature of the class. which is good bc i was told the most important thing was to give them lots of hands on exposure. most of the other metrics were somewhere between 4.5 and 4.7 which is honestly way better than i thought i'd get. if you're still reading these please comment "banana bread." my highest metric was "respects students' ideas and opinions" in which i got a whopping 5.0. really proud of that one! i had to go down a lot of stupid and incorrect rabbitholes to earn it.

this concludes my course evaluation posting

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nah i'm just high posting

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in all honesty i'm townreading you GB but i somehow have the feeling this probably isn't out of your scumrange

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amusingly the course evaluation page offers to generate a word cloud of my reviews

Someone doing a historical word cloud analysis on mafiascum.net: why was the site absolutely poisoned by the word "elaboratable" in mid 2023

i've always wanted to leave a mark on this site

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i really wanna just go all in on a hellbooks townread bc i feel like i'll have more fun that way. but eek idk

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hellbooks dropping a banana bread is unfortunately NAI. feel like she's one of the only people here that would read all the drivel without having a red role. i thought GB would probably see it too actually but it doesnt seem like they did. also NAI. thank you for participating in mafiascum's shittiest honeypot.

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if i were playing on instinct this game i'd probably snap vote baltar here. my instincts need some work though

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Skygazer - I feel they are trying to get into the game sometimes and struggling and it's +wolf a bit by now

This is a big fat L take that I'm not sure if you actually believe considering you just saw me zero post for an entire day one and claim it was because I was locked in a burger king as town

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tldr

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(will read later though)

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Skygazer - I feel they are trying to get into the game sometimes and struggling and it's +wolf a bit by now

This is a big fat L take that I'm not sure if you actually believe considering you just saw me zero post for an entire day one and claim it was because I was locked in a burger king as town

in essence: i don't see how you could arrive at me struggling to get into a game being AI when you just saw me struggle to get into a game.

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the game of thrones character?

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okay reading now

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can we just cast aside mafia and start an improv comedy troupe? i feel like that's pretty clearly where this is headed

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that vote count wow

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wow

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WHAT 3 MINUTE RESEARCH DID YOU DO THAT MADE YOU BECOME A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON

mind meld here; i think that 3 minutes of meta diving is likely just gonna lead to surface level observations that aren't very AI.

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Still digesting everything that has happened but shea gained some town points from this exchange

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Still digesting everything that has happened but shea gained some town points from this exchange

why

They're engaging in real time in a way that seems uninhibited. Chat mafia-esque read.

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skygazer do u have other reads on the game

I've been sharing most of my thoughts as they happen

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I think that has high potential to be a perspective slip on garlic's part fwiw. I'm viewing hellbooks as townier than I was, most of my concerns about her are stupid in hindsight and i'm not seeing much of an agenda. xof's posting is better and i probably should finally unvote them huh. i think my scum pool right now is ali/garlic/baltar/sheep (unordered) but my thoughts are still very much in flux

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i don't actually know how to read tris either tbh could someone fill me in

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the more i think about it the more i'm just like really lost here!!

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I think that has high potential to be a perspective slip on garlic's part fwiw. I'm viewing hellbooks as townier than I was, most of my concerns about her are stupid in hindsight and i'm not seeing much of an agenda. xof's posting is better and i probably should finally unvote them huh. i think my scum pool right now is ali/garlic/baltar/sheep (unordered) but my thoughts are still very much in flux

when have you ever seen a "perspective slip" actually work?

When I townread someone - I will talk with the assumption they flip town. I do not play wishy washy words like "if" or "assuming you're town" type deal.

hmm i know i've seen it before but i can't think of any concrete examples. the wording just felt really off consistently considering you had TSQ as kind of middling on your reads list.

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i'll drop the perspective slip reasoning bc that's very liable to lead to a miss. but there are a lot of things that just rubbed me the wrong way about garlic's posting. probably not a lot of it is AI the more i think about it :c find myself agreeing with 998 somewhat. not that garlic is the only one that's said things that rubbed me the wrong way.

this site needs a counter that's like "there have been X days since a personal attack" but it'd always be at zero

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WHAT THE HECK

WHAT 3 MINUTE RESEARCH DID YOU DO THAT MADE YOU BECOME A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PERSON

btw this is a town sequence of posts

agreed there. i think especially i don't see scum being the first to do a call out on someone who has kinda positioned themselves as "thread leader."

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I'm somewhat lost! So many slots are question marks to me at this point. I like hellbooks and TSQ for town the most right now. Ali activating looks townie enough. tris idk how to read but she seems the same as last game. Xof's posting is okay. Garlic I could go either way on but gut says town. That leaves sheep/baltar as my current solve but that's probably wrong. I'm worried a lot of my reads right now are spoiled by charisma and stuff like that. I think a flip would help me more than anything right now.

pedit: sheep's hellbooks vote is gross to me

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i think the main source of my frozenness is just the feeling that all of my reads have high potential to be wrong

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hellbooks is your shea vote elaboratable

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VOTE: sheep

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FWIW in response to xof's last post: I played similarly here in brass and shrapnel, had a rather frozen day one. After the first flip I shot scum N1 and put in a bit of effort to help win the game D2. So I can be good at this game sometimes!! I wish I had it in me to feign confidence in my early play but for some reason I can't.

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The agenda I can think of regarding alisae would be "oh shit I'm being scumread, time to town it up a little." granted that's not very AI on its own and i think they believe what theyre saying

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UNVOTE:

edible is kicking in i might be incoherent tonight

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me too

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i said something about shea being uninhibited and v quick yet natural in his posting i think. if not i'm saying it now

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i think tris' E1 vote is +town honestly

i feel like they'd be worried about getting accused of opportunism as scum perhaps

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i know shea and garlic probably aren't partners so please don't roast me

but the world where they're partners is really amusing to me

and agree with the please no fighting

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still on the fence about sheep but their posting after the E1 seemed town. Shea saying they probably flip green resonated, instinctually it felt like a green flip moment to me i guess too. enough to make me wanna unvote.

i feel like sheep has come across as opportunistic in terms of reads sometimes but i think my reads are kind of in the same boat and they could be a lost townie.

if i were to go on meta i'd actually kinda wanna vote them here because in schadd's game scum-sheep would scramble for the weaker town players when they got wagoned and i feel like their reads and votes here are kinda like that. not sure if that's a pattern to hold weight in though.

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that argument doesn't hold much water for me considering i think other worlds are possible

why do you think shea can't be scum in the world sheep is town? isn't white knight a widely scumread townie in like most of those "how to play scum" guides?

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snip

I ran this post through writingtoiq.com and found out hellbooks has a genius IQ. Maybe we should all just sheep her.

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what is happening

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i feel like i'm incapable of bringing a red flip. like sheep could be red right now and i'd hammer and the electrons would rearrange and sheep would flip green because the universe likes to taunt me

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hellbooks should i hammer sheep

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i don't wanna be in this position either!!

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VOTE: sheep

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bro imagine if you could schedule-send posts
the potential for shitposting would go off the roof

oh shit i forgot to unschedule my sheep vote whoops

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I roleblocked Baltar

VOTE: Baltar

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Why not?

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You wish I was reaction testing, don't you?

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I am actually a jailkeeper. But Baltar's reaction does suck.

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brb walkin to work

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I thought hellbooks was trying to get night killed there or something tbh

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lmao if its baltar/hellbooks

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am assuming GB's PR claim is fake now?

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I roleblocked Baltar

VOTE: Baltar

I wish you held that for a bit

hmmmm weird line considering what you said about outting PRs day one

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gah hellbooks' claim is giving me doubt. came into this feeling like baltar wouldn't have been the kill but ye.

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hmm yeah that's fair. kinda regret outting but i was just wakin up and got excited

pedit: @garlic

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Why did you decide to jailkeep me based on that flip sky? Seems like an odd choice

oh whoops forgot. i think sheep flipping green made you more likely to be red. i was aiming to hit someone that would probably not be night killed that was in my PoE.

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ya baltar's play at the end of day yesterday was literally to cheerlead me on voting sheep, call ali performative for unvoting, say if sheep flips green to kill ali, all while being unsure and saying they're compromising on sheep

seems opportunistic with no strong solving involved, just felt like shading and maybe setting up another miselim.

baltar also keeps shading me and calling me a liar and has yet to vote me!!

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You're the one doing the smear here my guy! I had you in my PoE for a long ass time. I had reasons to townread everyone left aside from you. And despite the fact you think I'm lying you're gunning for the player that's probably easier to eliminate today.

Baltar needs to go!

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hellbooks claim is giving me something to think about. my initial gut reaction was she was swooping in to give baltar an out but i was thinking GB was still a PR at that point

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I'd be gunning for baltar here regardless; their play at the end of yesterday was v sketch to me and I think they're the least pro town player

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guys one of the reasons i outted was so we could have something going on besides this shit fight. pleaseeeee

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like the odds you're both town is fairly high in my mind. i could be wrong on either one of you but if i'm not then this fight is a potential game loser tbh

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so you think i'm lying as town?

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my claim is 100% serious.

tris' claim makes my head hurt lol

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maybe it is hellbooks and baltar???

baltar's reaction to all of this is still terrible.

hellbooks claiming doc on tris and retracting makes me feel like she could've shot at tris and was trying to out a doc and/or cover for baltar

between shea and GB i think i'd vote GB

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I'll do baltar if we can do gb tomorrow.

i'm tentatively down. i'd like baltar today, i think he flips red regardless of the mechanical stuff

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question: should i announce who i jailkeep tonight or keep it a mystery? i'll probably announce since it's likely i die and breadcrumbing isn't really an option

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but veeps trying to convince me that im actually a doctor is an incredibly incredibly fun genre of posting and i think he should keep doing that especially if hes scum

it is v funny to me too

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ya i mean baltar went from shading my claim to insisting hellbooks is actually a doctor to shading all the claims and landed on accusing me of being town fakeclaiming lol. the way he went about this has just felt like scum scrambling to me.

got the vibe he thought he'd lose the 1v1 against me so went for the more attainable garlic elim in the heat of the moment

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if baltar flips red i'll jail garlic i guess

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if you're still reading these please comment "banana bread."

in addition to being a shitty honeypot this was also somewhat of an experiment to see if i could just drop a claim in a wall of text no one would read/trying to determine what the threshold of "too long to have people read it" was. not that i would actually do such a thing but now that i've said that i feel so powerful. like i could drop the longest stupidest most irrelevant post and someone would feel compelled to read it in case there's a morsel of game info.

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69 pagetop

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Was that in response to me wanting to jailkeep you?

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is the gtkas mod not able to secretly do title stuff anymore? i remember changing my title once or twice briefly as a joke and never told anyone and no one ever noticed it

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i'm trying to remember the funniest title in the system

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i am, perhaps undeservedly, declaring myself town MVP

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too late i declared it

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after sheep flipped i had basically resigned this as a loss tbh!!

town just did not do a good job at being cohesive and stuff. jailkeeping scum n1 was a pleasant surprise but i was still just like blehhh it still felt like scum ran circles around us.

shea and baltar y'all both played well!!! other than some stuff here and there i had fun.

ausuka the flavor was amazing

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Skygazer was my scum buddy in that game I just won too, btw. So I expect them to be keeping an eye on me.

heh

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hellbooks is amazing ya

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funny thing is it wasnt even a guilty cuz they killed the BP

this is the one thing i have going for me right now please don't take it away