Micro 45 - Artemis Fowl Game Over

Malakittens · Post Post #74 (isolation #0) » Wed Oct 03, 2012 1:28 am

Clearly wow.

Few things. Timing for confirmation can be key. I have caught scum because they confirm last or second to last. The partner usually confirms earlier though.

Shos: Hai you smell like scum again. >.>

Malakittens · Post Post #137 (isolation #1) » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:48 am

Sorry, Sorry. I'll go do a full reread in a bit, but I want to quickly reread the game Shos was scum in. I might change my read on him, but he's scummy imo.

Malakittens · Post Post #139 (isolation #2) » Fri Oct 05, 2012 7:52 am

Trying to deflect sus off Shos?

Malakittens · Post Post #141 (isolation #3) » Fri Oct 05, 2012 8:21 am

No, I haven't started rereading yet. I'm doing my take home essay and then I will.

Malakittens · Post Post #186 (isolation #4) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:59 am

Okay. How did Absta go from voting Shos in early page 1, but later on goes to defend him. It's basically like Shos voting KMD, but then later on defending KMD.

Prohawk seems town to me from page 2.
KMD is null.
Shos was scummy and the same goes for Absta.

Absta vote on Shamrock doesn't clearly make sense, but it doesn't mean it's not there.

Malakittens · Post Post #187 (isolation #5) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:15 am

Okay. Someone made a comment regarding Absta with voting everyone. Last game I played with Absta he was scum and did a similar play style where he hopped wagons and he was scum.

Chances are Absta is scum and I am planning on putting my vote there.

In addition Absta doesn't seem to consider that GNR plays the same was regardless as town or scum. Reason why I know he plays the same as both is because I had to read up on both before casting a vote when I was in LyLo during science. I don't know the exact number.
This makes me think of this was intentional hoping that others would agree and hop on with him in order to get an easy lynch out of the way. If it wasn't that he was intentionally distancing, but that wouldn't be known until a flip appears.

My best set of information for me is after night 1 because between NK/analyZing the lynch, I'm able to clearly figure out scum.

vote: Absta

Clearly when I replaced in I wasn't expecting to get sick nor due to that I wasn't expecting to not finish my homework on the schedule I planned on.

Malakittens · Post Post #198 (isolation #6) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 9:17 am

Absta why don't you link it where you do it as scum too? You did it during FoF.

Malakittens · Post Post #209 (isolation #7) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 4:40 pm

I didn't really defend him. I just pointed out his meta is basically the same as scum/town.

Malakittens · Post Post #211 (isolation #8) » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:18 pm

Looooooooool. I can't simply make a comment that a player plays the same as town/scum and that people aren't considering that before voting?

^ Does not equal chainsaw defense or even a defense. It's just a comment.

Malakittens · Post Post #357 (isolation #9) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 12:48 am

Ugh. I keep forgetting about this game. Promise you ill do better!

-**- soft claim alert: I have an awesome PR, give me a chance to use it.
Don't make me claim til Day 2 <3 -**-

Malakittens · Post Post #360 (isolation #10) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:14 am

Yep. Totally.

Malakittens · Post Post #362 (isolation #11) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:41 am

Stop questioning it until Day 2. >.>

Malakittens · Post Post #363 (isolation #12) » Wed Oct 10, 2012 2:42 am

Oh GMT is the timeZone where CA is right? (Horrible with TZ's)

Malakittens · Post Post #404 (isolation #13) » Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:23 am

Really are you trying to discredit their votes by calling it RVS?
I agree I want reasoning.
I have gone back over Mehdi's posts and it seems like he was certain of {GNR, Mala, Shos} as scum.
He was defending Robo pretty hard from Pro.

With that. I'm waiting on answers before posting a vote.

Malakittens · Post Post #411 (isolation #14) » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:50 pm

Honestly, I am thinking Robo is town. I don't see a scum-Robo killing Mehdi.

Vote: CO

Just from ISO'ing Mehdi. This is bouncing over from the GNR read by Mehdi.

So leaning on the fact we have a town Robo.

I'm willing to switch my vote to ProHawk for reasons above and my own. I'm still waiting on the two people who are voting Pro to explain why.

Malakittens · Post Post #413 (isolation #15) » Fri Oct 12, 2012 2:06 pm

Two Words:

Rereading Nightkill.

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My Absta read is still there, but I didn't think it was necessary to repeat myself. Are my reads inconsistent? Nope.
Sorry, but after Day 2 I'm not useless. Day 1 I'll admit I am.

Glad you are willing to just kill a town member like that. Don't kill someone because they are useless, but kill someone because they are scummy. There's a difference.

Anyways I haven't completely decided if I'm replacing out. I'm starting a new job on Monday so I don't think I'll have as much time to play MS as I did before and I'll admit I'm in too many games.

Malakittens · Post Post #416 (isolation #16) » Fri Oct 12, 2012 4:27 pm

Actually if you check past games I lean highly lean on catching scum off the NK's. it's a town tell for me, sorry to break it to you KMD.

Malakittens · Post Post #419 (isolation #17) » Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:08 pm

Town:

1. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=23126
2. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=83&t=23117 (Might not count since it was a delayed NK, so I lasted an extra Day when I shouldn't have)
3. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=23006

Scum:
1. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=84&t=23004
2. http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=22308

Malakittens · Post Post #428 (isolation #18) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:30 am

Clearly I wouldn't have had to use it if people didn't say Umg she might be scum because she was planting the NK's to frame!

Malakittens · Post Post #430 (isolation #19) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:46 am

Due to the NightKill honestly. There's a chance that Absta could be scum, but I'm looking at someone else at this point.

I still find it very unlikely we have a Robo-Scum, but chances are we have a scum-ProHawk.
I see no breadcrumbs of a role by Mehdi so I doubt it's due to that scum thought he had a PR.

If I have time I'll go look at wagon analysis.

Malakittens · Post Post #433 (isolation #20) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:07 am

P.S. Reason for my claim:

I'm Captain Holly Short. I have the ability to commute Night 1, but only Night 1. Basically for me stating that I have a PR in Day 1 was me trying to get the Nightkill directed towards me, so we don't lose someone from the N1 NK. It failed because the scum did not target me, but they went after Mehdi.

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Just because it's a PL rather than actual suspicion doesn't mean that Mehdi wasn't a threat to the scum team.
I'm looking as CO's most recent votes looks more like busing than actual susp if that makes any sense. Honestly, I wanted to vote ProHawk over CO, but with the two current unexplained votes I decided to hesitate.

I'm not voting Absta because I'm willing to bet that either CO/ProHawk have a higher chance at flipping scum than Absta at this point.

I can see a scum-ProHawk killing Mehdi because Mehdi was defending hard against a town-Robo rather than killing due to a possible role.
ProHawk straight up countered Shos flavor, so why was he not killed over Mehdi?
^ The same could be applied to why wasn't I killed over Mehdi either due to my soft-claim. The scum either smelt a trap there which I'll admit I tried planting or they see me as an easy lynch in D2.

Malakittens · Post Post #436 (isolation #21) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:31 am

I have voted, did you miss that?

Malakittens · Post Post #446 (isolation #22) » Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:30 pm

Tunnel moar on Prohawkkkk CO.

Dunno if I announced V/La, but I am until Monday.

Malakittens · Post Post #498 (isolation #23) » Wed Oct 17, 2012 6:16 pm

*crickets*

Why can't you post your thoughts before the massclaim is done?

@ Pro: Whats is your current read on both Shamrock and Kmd?

Malakittens · Post Post #504 (isolation #24) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:44 pm

I did use my ability Night 1. It was the only Night I could use it and I couldn't pick another night.

What do you mean getting killed was more valuable? Considering I am a Night 1 commuter if I drew the nightkill to myself on Night 1 instead of someone else we wouldn't have lost any players.

What made you think that I just wanted to die instead of using my role?

Why does your beginning post, but then the ending of your post towards me totally contradict each other? Beginning of your posts seems to me that you didn't understand my role at all, but the ending you totally do.

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In a Day 2 post Mala wrote this:

I'm Captain Holly Short. I have the ability to commute Night 1, but
only
Night 1. Basically for me stating that I have a PR in Day 1 was me trying to get the Nightkill directed towards me, so we don't lose someone from the N1 NK. It failed because the scum did not target me, but they went after Mehdi.

Malakittens · Post Post #512 (isolation #25) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:13 pm

What I don't see is how a RB'er would be useful in a game this small to the town.

Malakittens · Post Post #518 (isolation #26) » Thu Oct 18, 2012 5:24 pm

To distance?

Malakittens · Post Post #529 (isolation #27) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 3:31 am

Thing about Shamrock is he was the only person Robo didn't mention in his list as possibly leaning Town or scum.
Then again we don't know the specifics of his magic cop role.
If he had a possible scum read he'd probably vote them over voting Absta.

I'm thinking Shamrock is probably town.

I agree with the fact that there's a least one scum on the top D1 wagon. What I don't agree with is the fact town always leads mislynches since scum can also lead their lynches. I do also agree that scum sometimes sheeps wagons, but not all the time.

Malakittens · Post Post #531 (isolation #28) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:02 am

I wouldn't mind lynching KMD. I keep ending up going back over his post regarding asking for flavor and I really don't see a RB'er useful in a game this small so I'm willing to lynch CO too.

I'm 90% sure you are town Sham.

Malakittens · Post Post #533 (isolation #29) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:08 am

Haven't really decided yet. He's leaning scum, but the argument that KMD is making towards him feels forced.

Malakittens · Post Post #534 (isolation #30) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 4:35 am

Eh. Just skimmed though Artemis Fowl. Chix wasn't in the flavor and at first I thought Sham's character was bad, but then realized he was assisting LEPCON.

There's a chance it's KMD/Pro. If its not its KMD/CO.

Vote: KMD

Malakittens · Post Post #543 (isolation #31) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:10 am

Hm. Pro wondering why you just sheeped my reads on Sham/KMD. I made the comment about Robo a few posts later you did the same. >.>

Malakittens · Post Post #544 (isolation #32) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:18 am

Eh.

unvote
Vote: CO

Malakittens · Post Post #546 (isolation #33) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:33 am

Actually. I need a nap. I'll revote when I get back up, don't want scum to quick lynch when I'm sleeping. They have been known to do that. >.>

unvote:

Malakittens · Post Post #548 (isolation #34) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 10:55 am

Oh I did wagon analysis too. I'll upload the google sheet once I'm dead

Malakittens · Post Post #549 (isolation #35) » Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:22 am

Plus my vote went back on CO because I'm sulking over a LyLo lynch-town lose when I pinned the scum by NK analysis on D2.
I'll nap and then maybe ill stop sulking.

Malakittens · Post Post #554 (isolation #36) » Sun Oct 21, 2012 5:38 pm

Or means both of you are scum

Malakittens · Post Post #558 (isolation #37) » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:27 pm

Not sure. Really depends on the experience of the scum team, so I'd have to go back and look at how many of the remaining have had been scum:town, wins:losses. The problem with PL-ing a buddy on Day 1 is it's a bit of a gambit since it can go either way.

I'm toying with the idea of a CO/KMD team, but for me I rather vote CO out before KMD/Pro.

Malakittens · Post Post #569 (isolation #38) » Tue Oct 23, 2012 5:15 pm

Kay I was right. If I die lynch CO.

Malakittens · Post Post #610 (isolation #39) » Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:13 pm

Nice job to both town/scum.

Pro. I figured that Shamrock was possibly town with the magic cop. xD

I still think NK analysis is useful. Clearly CO was pinned D2. <3