Micro 113: Think Twice - Game Over!

[JasonWazza]

It's pronounced like the mythical bird: Phoenix (/Fee/-nix). Bonus points for getting the pun.

Now, enough with that silliness.

Vote: JasonWazza

How is voting me not silly?

Vote: Phoenicks

this is actual probable scum

How is he probably scum?

Passing out hammers like medical marijuana cards.

If someone hammers they likely die tomorrow so a 1-1 trade isn't bad.

[JasonWazza]

How is voting me not silly?

That was the point.

If the next vote wasn't to lynch i would be voting you right now.

FoS: Phoenicks

He decided to just randomly vote without going back into the game.

Call it a small tell of just avoiding people so he doesn't get into bad interactions but it is a tell.

^Apparently, plan foiled.

Actually, I'm confused.
Am I not voting randomly enough?

Being random is not the point of RVS, it's the fact that your not being random.

[JasonWazza]

Being random is not the point of RVS, it's the fact that your not being random.

Isn't that how you get out of RVS?

NOTHING IS EVER RANDOM

This is because we already have our role PM's meaning that we know from the get go what motives we have.

[JasonWazza]

Hey no longer a lynch vote

VOTE:Phoenicks

[JasonWazza]

UNVOTE:
I am not feeling all the hate on Phoenicks, I get pushing and prodding people but this already appears to be going in a circle.......a circle to nowhere(can a circle really go nowhere? But I digress....).

And Jason, maybe no RV is ever 100% random but there is a reason that the early part of the game is called the 'Random' Voting Stage.

inb4 FuDuzn flips goon with Phoenicks as godfather

[JasonWazza]

I was suspecting Jason in my mind for the last few posts but that vote confirms the town read.

Wait what?

You suspected me for not lynching someone on the first page?

[JasonWazza]

NOTHING IS EVER RANDOM

This is because we already have our role PM's meaning that we know from the get go what motives we have.

Randomness is that which we don't know. Townies, with ignorance, alone can be random. Not that they will, or should, be.

Anyways this is too pedantic for me.

Not even townie's should be actting random, townie's should be working on scum hunting even with there RVS vote, being random doesn't help scum-hunt.

Isn't that how you get out of RVS?

Okay, so before I go into a horrible mess about how this post is horrible--let me ask you one thing. Let's get it all out on the table.

What was your initial point of voting Jason?

1) I prefer to vote over not voting.
2) I prefer to vote players who haven't appeared yet.
3) I'd prefer not to create L-1 only four posts in.

Otherwise I don't feel the need to defend the contents of the two small posts in question. Too early to get worked up.

1) Well duh
2) Why this is stupid, they may replace out, so why vote someone not here?
3) Why not this creates a mountain of pressure on a player?

[JasonWazza]

I think at this point you're more interested in getting me to agree with you than scumhunting.

Declaring me suspicious, arguing at me, voting, and tunneling -- without a communicable explanation of why I'm suspicious -- isn't scumhunting.

Can you please state -- or restate, if I've missed something -- precisely why you think I'm scum?

The RVS gave off really bad Vibes.

You said lets stop being silly (which i rightly assumed was stop RVSing) then RVS'd me, so basically you went against your own words in your own post (never a good thing)

Not to mention your sole reason for still voting me is "you weren't here within the first 2 hours of people posting" (hint neither was Hiraki)

Regretting calling Jason super duper town due to his answers. Mostly numero uno.

Why is number one specifically scummy?

It was pretty much a well duh moment.

@Jason: I prefer to vote for inactives because you get responses from the active players and the inactives, if they surface.

That is fairly stupid reasoning.

oi this game should be over by the 30th

if it's not, i'm using my special ability to blow everyone up k thanks

Why are you trying to make town rush here?

Town benefits from being thought out.

UNVOTE: Phoenicks
VOTE: Hiraki

[JasonWazza]

So I am pussy because I didn't want a quicklynch? Explain if that is the reason or not, since you failed to explain last time I asked.

Also Jason, why do I get the feeling you are trying to string up Hiraki and using his momentum against him?

Also, it would be cool if this game ended exactly on the 30th......tis my bday

How is wanting to end the game within 10 RL days a good thing?

It was random. Townies can be random where scum can't.

Unvote

So that later if I want to vote Jason it has force.

Town can't (/shouldn't) be random either, the RVS is an attempt to scumhunt so how is being random with that vote helpful in scumhunting?

Why are you trying to make town rush here?

Do you dare doubt my power?

Kekeke, and now my special ability!

Great beast of the sky, please hear my cry.
Transform thyself from orb of light and bring me victory in this fight.
Envelop the desert with your glow and cast your rage upon my foe.
Unlock your powers from deep within so that together we may win.
Appear now in this

Shadow

Mafia Game as I call your name,
Winged Dragon of Ra!

Now, then, since my Winged Dragon of Ra is out on the field, I'll need to sacrifice all of my life points but 1 in order to give Ra 7999/7999

Attack/Defense

e-cock points!

With that, I can destroy any random person I want at any time! Fear me now!

On the 30th of January, I will use Ra's power to destroy every member of the game except myself! Only I shall win! Kekekeke!

I fucking lol'd hard

It was pretty much a well duh moment.

Because there is an actual advantage to with-hold a vote in a game where scum can easily misread themselves and step into vote. It's not a strong case by any means but if there was a scummer like Mastin.

X random votes Mastin, goes to sleep and loses internet connection for the next day.
Y votes Mastin (is scum)
Z votes Mastin (is stupid town)

Who do you think is going into the flames?

Not to mention, you asked him a question and ridiculed his answer when your question was based on the fact of voting.

It's like saying solve a theorem without using any proofs. You can't do it but you don't think twice in using proofs in order to solve a theorem.

Sorry but if Z fucks our game we heckle them straight afterwards, for being a freaking newb and ruining our game.

But there is a difference between this and his well duh statement, in that he wasn't voting someone who had any votes on them, hence he wasn't being stupid town.

Because you basically said that your vote was there in spirit

but apparently now it's not?

Look--let's make this simple.

I want you to examine the game--take a day if needed.

Come back with reasoning on why you think someone should die. It can be very weak reasoning. We're in Page 2 of a probable 15 page game. However, we need something from you.

At this point, all I can remember, without reviewing, is that you have/had a random vote on Jason and you took it off because you don't want it on him, for some reason.

We need these reasons, Phoenicks.

I agree whole heartedly with this.

Make a case on me if need be, just have some reasoning, though i will say this, I'd prefer you did a little reads list on everyone along with your who needs to die bit.

[JasonWazza]

And shouldn't severe dirt trip be getting a prod?

Prods are issued after a person has not posted for 48 hours.

I think that is his point

[JasonWazza]

UNVOTE: Hiraki
VOTE: Siveure DtTrikyp

You skipped everything that you could comment on except the part where you could easily plant a vote that's really bad.

Hikari, Z still fucked our game (if that happens).

[JasonWazza]

Also where is jason?

At the time i was sleeping.

You all started wild posting while i slept.

[JasonWazza]

I've got nothing TOO say Siv, I'm not gonna post if i don't have anything i need to say, everyone knows how i feel right now.

Also if Hiraki was my GF i would be doing something stupid right now to make myself look scummy (lurking isn't that scummy) not just sitting on the side lines.

[JasonWazza]

well considering i extremely doubt that both siv/hiraki are town, it's not all that big a loss.

P-Edit: LOL how does me having a point = me being scum?

[JasonWazza]

I'm also anticipating that,

if Hiraki is town

, it will narrow the choices more than if Siveure flips town. Right now I'm thinking in terms of scum

FuDuzn = JasonWazza >

Hiraki

> Siveure

Shouldn't the italics make him even further right?

This game starts from 5-player LYLO and, therefore, requires that all 3 townies vote for scum, or that one of the mafiosi bus. Because the death of the godfather is automatic loss, it is highly unlikely that the goon will bus the godfather Day 1. It's far more likely that the scum are not on each other. And, because scum can coordinate (if only for the first 48 hours of a phase), it's more likely that the scum have chosen separate wagons than the townies successfully uniting.

That is why there is a thing called the white flag gambit.

[JasonWazza]

UNVOTE: Siveure DtTrikyp
VOTE: Hiraki

Survivalistic as fuck doesn't benefit town.

[JasonWazza]

I know Siv unvoted that was the point, i think Hiraki is scum

[JasonWazza]

*didn't notice the new page*

[JasonWazza]

That is pathetic, Siv/Hiraki contains AT LEAST 1 scum

[JasonWazza]

FuDuzn y u be lurkin

Cause he was my useless goon

[JasonWazza]

not that it's interesting but: http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/XDeXtRvbdten