Micro 121: SS9 (Game over!)

[Blueberry]

VOTE: Cheery Dog

Why Lincolm?

[Blueberry]

The amount of skill in Wicked's post is so high it blows my mind. Congratulations.

[Blueberry]

The points made by Lincolm against Lincolm prove that Lincolm is scum. I'll sheep Lincolm.

VOTE: Lincolm

[Blueberry]

Vote : Lincolm

!

at least 1 scums in my wagon.

Did you just scumclaim?

[Blueberry]

A Super Saint is a Vengeful Townie who only kills the person who placed the hammer vote (they do not get to choose)

For your information, Wisdom.

[Blueberry]

Because it seemed like you didn't know that you will die if you hammer.

[Blueberry]

You asked to hammer Lincolm. Then you said that you don't want to die. It came off as if you believed that Lincolm will get to choose.

[Blueberry]

Lincolm, do you always take everything so seriously?

[Blueberry]

So calling a joke a joke is scummy and ignoring a joke is towny. What about being oblivious altogether like Lincolm?

[Blueberry]

I'm going to take the latter, given how he gives me a newbie feel, while he's clearly not a newbie.

[Blueberry]

It's funny because English is not my first too.

[Blueberry]

given how he gives me a newbie feel

Another why?

I'm not sure why. It's a feel.

@Blueberry : Y U not say L-1?

(1) Just one post ago you said that you are at L-2. I think we are smart enough to understand that my vote makes it a L-1.
(2) If you are so concerned about you being at L-1, you might want to remove the selfvote while you're at that.

[Blueberry]

Yeah, my point is, my "english please" remark and my comment about your pedit came after your post. I didn't get to post after Lincolm's reaction and before yours.

Well I still dislike people agreeing with me about stuff that I'm not even that sure about when I post.

Disliking somebody = Thinking somebody's scum?

[Blueberry]

Blueberry's 7 - carrying a joke a step too far? Seems forced. Same with Cheery's post 6 but to a lesser extent.

Huntress, don't be jealous that you didn't get to participate in the joke.

[Blueberry]

Blueberry - that is a stupid reason to put someone at L-1. >.> (joke or no joke)

I wasn't looking for a wise vote. Especially, this early in the game.

The only serious non-Lincolm votes on this bandwagon were from Kmd and Blueberry- are you saying you think at least one of those two people are mafia?

I'm not a fan of this post from Blueberry. Firstly, how did the quotes from Lincolm imply that he was mafia? Secondly, what kind of answer were you expecting?

One, my vote on Abraham wasn't serious. Two, he said that at least one person on his wagon is scum & he was on his wagon himself = he's scum. Three, I haven't been serious one bit about Lincoln or pretty much anything up to this point.

I also had issue with his post 17.

Oh my, what are we gonna do now?

he also discredited wicked's jokecase

To be honest, I didn't see any potential for reactions/whatever in the jokecase, so I treated it as one. Not sure what kind of reactions you expected.

Good enough time to remove the jokevote. Kmd's eagerness to question a first/obviously RVS vote is somewhat too overdefensive/overanalytical. Also, kmd'd hastiness for Wisdom hammering Abraham/controlling the lynches is also suspicious.

VOTE: Kmd

Abraham is probably town.

[Blueberry]

That's good to know I guess, but I don't really like the need for you to have said this.
UNVOTE: VOTE: mala

@wisdom/lincolm the easy way to fix those issues is to have the kammerer decided before deadline.
Today we have it extra easy because if a goon does either of those things, we can freely lynch them tomorrow.

If a refusal to hammer happens at any time, I think the best option is to reverse the lychees and hammerers around. If both refuse them we've probably caught two mafia, and can freely be killed.

I also want to check something.

@mod, should plurality lynches come into play on a super saint, who is killed?

This is probably the worst post ever I've seen coming from you. I'm disappoint.

VOTE: Cheery Dog

[Blueberry]

Wait I should read my own role more than just the name if it.

Claim harder, bro.

[Blueberry]

Wait I should read my own role more than just the name if it.

Claim harder, bro.

scum?

That's what I thought.

[Blueberry]

Why is it bad? Explain.

Did you read his post? I mean what the. He changed a vote from his townread to his nullread which apparently became a scumread because he didn't see the need for Mala to post his liking of Huntress post. Even if we agree that Mala's post was not necessary, it doesn't tell us anything about his alignment. Dog's logic is so flawed, I'm surprised that nobody has called him out yet. Dog changed his vote just because, apparently. Keeping a vote on a townread is useless, but changing it to a random person is even worse. Unless he can give other reasons to Mala being scum, his vote is absolutely unjustified. Then the next post he says that "he needs to read his role PM more" with clearly implying that he's a supersaint. That remark is so unnecessary and scummy. Plus Dog hasn't given any normal votes or scumspects the whole game.

I understand that you're happy that Dog removed his vote from you, but it's still strange that you didn't see this.

[Blueberry]

If you think I didn't see this, you missed my 128.

Why did you ask me for explanations if you saw it yourself? ...

[Blueberry]

I don't think CDog would be so scummy if he was scum

(fallacy, I know)

, and as such I don't think he's the best lynch. I'd maybe consider to have him be the hammerer.

Thank you for countering your own point.

I'm actually starting to see you as a scumbuddy. Gut.

[Blueberry]

That's like the definition of 'too scummy to be scum', the logical fallacy. If somebody's scummy they are lynched.

[Blueberry]

You're right. Expect that Kmd is not the scummiest of the two. Nice try though.

[Blueberry]

Well, my opinion is more important to me.

[Blueberry]

I like Slimer. He's funny.

[Blueberry]

Not familiar with his meta. Is it usual for him to goof off as scum?

[Blueberry]

Ok then. Will vote him, if his wagon ever gets going.

[Blueberry]

I simply found it humorous how Slimer acted newbie, Wisdom called him out on it and then he acted oblivious. Might be just me.

[Blueberry]

I personally think I play the same each game. Perhaps more crazy as scum though

You're a slimer. You don't get opinions.

[Blueberry]

Blueberry: D:

Don't worry. I still like you.

[Blueberry]

...not sure I understand this. So your question regarding Lincolm's hypothetical scum claim was not serious? What was the point of it then? You didn't actually think it was a scum claim? And I dislike your claim that none of your posts regarding Lincolm have been serious, because the post in question didn't sound like a joke.

Yes, my posts about Lincolm were not serious. They were mainly for pressure reasons. Oh, and it's not a joke that makes you go "haha that's so funny". I simply wasn't being serious about it. That's all that there is to it.

What made you decide to switch your vote at this moment, specifically?

Because by that time I got a certain townread on Lincoln. Didn't see a point in continuing the pointless.

Wisdom's logic is pretty horrible, but I can't tell the difference between Wisdomscum bad logic and Wisdomtown bad logic. Though, I'd still like to see Kmd hammer and flip to see if he's town, so what the hell.

VOTE: Wisdom

[Blueberry]

Shit, called my bluff xD

No need in wasting a kill though.

This was apart of our plan anyway.

Gg

Vote: Wisdom[/vote]

See you guys in the aftergame

This post, I feel it's possibly telling me kmd/Lincolm as his scum partners.
I feel I should therefore do this.

VOTE: Kmd

No, it tellis us that it was a part of your plan for you to "use" it.

VOTE: Cheery Dog

[Blueberry]

No, it tellis us that it was a part of your plan for you to "use" it.

VOTE: Cheery Dog

Wait I planned for my partner to suicide by hammering my biggest town read so I could scuse kmd on wanting a scum member (why I just placed lincolm there) to hammer the wagon before the town on it were able to work out that wisdom was obvtown?
Which also all happened during early morning hours in my timezone (meaning I wasn't online)

Absolutely correct!

[Blueberry]

Going to take this road and see where it leads me.

Into the wild
On with the mission

I have witnessed town CD - twice. What he did regarding his vote was similar to what he did when I was scum in another micro. He voted, but didn't really push for the lynch. Also the L-1 / hammer test is something that I see as town rather than scum. It helps gather reads.

So you are assuming that CD always plays the same as scum and doesn't do stuff for towncred. If you are town, you're undermining CD very much.

To say, I'm pretty sure that the scum are Cheery Dog and Mala.

Tell me why his logic is horrible.

Because his logic is always somewhat horrible.

Tell me why it is Cheery's plan. Why not someone else?

The "your" in my post means "the scum's". You know, because you is a plural form.

I want all of you give your thought about this (Cheery already said it):

See post 316.

[Blueberry]

vote lincolm with a blueberry hammer.

Like hell I'm going to hammer my strongest townread. Oh, would you mind restating the reasons instead of giving this "the same as yesterday" nonsense. Atm, this looks like trying to manipulate the townies to kill each other.

Also, I'd love to hammer Kmd, because this is just stupid, if he's townie.

[Blueberry]

If lincolm and blue die today, I will gladly be the hammer tomorrow no questions asked.

Blue, it's right in my ISO. And his really...

Yeah, no it's not. If you are referring to your p13, then I rather you update the whatever you have against Abraham. Hell, I saw you calling him town, so tell me more about how you have always thought that he's scum. Also, I love your attitude of "I'M GOING TO HAMMER NO WAIT NEXT TIME SOMEBODY ELSE HAS TO HAMMER".

Oh and cheery is the most likely player to be town in the game, but that doesn't mean he knows what he's talking about. So don't listen to him but don't lynch him or let him hammer.

Hahahahahahaha NO.

So how about we lynch lincolm and I hammer?

I bet you will. I bet you will...

[Blueberry]

VOTE: Lincolm

[Blueberry]

Why the heck did you vote Abraham to begin with?

[Blueberry]

@Kmd : Do you ever feel that you're being manipulated?

yup.

Paranoid Parrot.

Because his logic is always somewhat horrible.

Because I don't see why his logic horrible. Tell me more.

Yeah, it doesn't really matter anymore. I was kind of referring to an other game.

If you really scum, you deserve to win because of you.

Unvote

I will re-read tomorrow.

Not a single word was understood. Explain?

INSERT TEXT HERE

Would it be strange if I said that it seems like Huntress is copying my actions (to possibly buddy me)? She's voting Cheery Dog, but willing to vote Abraham. I'm voting Abraham, but willing to vote Cheery Dog. Probably just a coincidence.

[Blueberry]

UGGGGHHHH we are not getting anywhere.

I expect everybody to vote in their next post. If you do not vote, you are scum.

[Blueberry]

A++ post.

[Blueberry]

I named Lincolm and Cheery as my top suspects in post 323; you named yours in post 337 as Cheery and Mala. No mention of Lincolm. In post 343 he was still your strongest townread. In post 364 you vote him in response to Kmd's promise to hammer, but still no indication you thought he was scum, or that you really thought Kmd was either for that matter. Do you think either of them is scum?

The above quote feels like it's scum nudging rather than town which puts me in a bit of a quandary, as if Blueberry is scum then I don't think Cheery is likely to be.

@ Blueberry: What's the rush? Don't you want to wait to hear what Wicked has to say when he comes back?

Okay, I'm not even sure what you are going on about in the first part. I am VOTING Abraham, but WILLING TO VOTE, my main scumspect to say, Cheery Dog. His scumpartner is Mala or Kmd, and I'm not sure who anymore. So here's a convenient chart for you.
Abraham -----> voting him to make sure Kmd hammers
Cheery Dog -----> my main scumspect
Mala ------> CD's possible scumpartner
Kmd -------> CD's possible scumpartner
Is everything much clearer now?

I have long gotten over the fact that I'm always scummy.

Oh, and I do want to hear what Wicked has to say, but I really don't like how the game has stagnated waiting for this one thing he's going to say. Man, I don't even get what's the big deal about Wicked's chance to shine!

If there's anybody who has to hammer me, it's Kmd.

[Blueberry]

Oh.

VOTE: Blueberry

Hammer me, Kmd.

[Blueberry]

AAAAARRRRGGGGHHBB
Why do you have to make it harder than it is?

[Blueberry]

I'm just an innocent townsperson. Whose life long dream is to see someone hammer someone. Is that so much to ask?

[Blueberry]

1. Yeah the vote for Wisdom was pretty horrible I take it, because it's whole point (as you can tell by reading the whole quote) was to see Kmd hammer. So, that makes it truly opportunistic as well.
3. I'm not even sure I'd be capable of reading someone who made me laugh. Oh, and why would I push for a wagon which I'm not so sure of? I don't know Slimer's meta myself. To counter your "he wouldn't trust his suspect" see point one: Wisdom never was that much of a suspect.

Oh, and I haven't interacted much with Huntress, because there was nothing to react to. She barely posts and when she does she's largely passive.

I'd really still rather Kmd hammers, but Huntress is a good choice too.